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Self Proclaimed World's Greatest Christian Trump Ignores Apostle's Creed at Bush Funeral, Is Questioned Over 'Christian' Credentials
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American WASP - Convert NOW Or Die
2018-12-06 12:15:10 UTC
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Even more shock as evil Negro Muslim from Kenya Obama knew the words and
prayed like a good Christian while Trump refused.


Donald Trump Ignores Apostle's Creed at Bush Funeral, Is Questioned Over
'Christian' Credentials
Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and their wives glanced up and
down from the programs they held in front of them and spoke the prayer,
along with everyone else visible in the video.

It's a prayer recited in homes, churches, and cathedrals across the world,
as an affirmation of Christian faith and acceptance of the divinity of
Jesus Christ, as well as an acclamation of the Holy Trinity.

"I believe in God, the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth. Do you
believe in Jesus Christ? I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered
under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; he descended to
the dead."


The Apostle's Creed is Christianity 101 is what we're saying, known to
anyone with even the slightest familiarity of the religion But, as he is in
so many other things, Donald Trump seems ignorant of it; or at least, he
doesn't seem to know the words.



The recent state funeral of former US President George HW Bush saw other
previous holders of that high office, American statesmen, politicians,
diplomats and dignitaries, unfettered by partisanship and ideology, come
together simply to celebrate the extraordinary life and career of an even
more extraordinary man. It was truly a somber, respectful ceremony, until
the 45th President of the United States come and completely crass up the
joint.

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Among his many faux-pas during the funeral, both Trump and his wife Melania
did not join in the prayer recited by everyone else present in the
cathedral.

According to the Washington Post, videos from the funeral showed a front
row of presidents at the Washington National Cathedral, standing and
reciting it along with the program. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack
Obama and their wives glanced up and down from the programs they held in
front of them and spoke the prayer, along with everyone else visible in the
video. The program, as is typical, calls for the prayer to be said in
unison. Trump stood, with his hands folded in front of him, his lips not
moving, the program held absently in one hand; Melania also did not speak,
nor did she hold a program.

The response was swift and unforgiving, with eagle-eyed observers pouncing
on the fact that a President, widely, if vaguely, viewed as a folk hero by
American Christian hardliners didn't seemn aware of, or even worse,
interested in this most basic of prayers.


John Ziegler
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@Zigmanfreud
It’s SO weird that Barack Obama (the “Muslim”) knew all the words to the
Apostles’ Creed, and Donald Trump (the Evangelical hero) didn’t know any of
them, and didn’t even bother to read them. #GeorgeHWBushFuneral

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Laura Seay
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@texasinafrica
The Trumps aren't reading along with the Apostles' Creed. It's right there
on the program.

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The Modern Kingfish
@ModernKingfish
How do Donald and Melania Trump get away with not reciting the Apostles'
Creed along with literally everyone else in the National Cathedral? Not
even gonna participate in church, on camera, in front of the world. Can't
be bothered. #GeorgeHWBushFuneral

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12:58 PM - Dec 5, 2018
dolf
2018-12-06 12:23:39 UTC
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— THERE IS NO TRUTH TO THE SOYLENT GREEN RUMOUR THAT IN ORDER TO COMPLY
WITH HALAL CERTIFICATION WASABI IS BEING MARKETED AS KHASHOGGI

(c) 2018 Dolf Leendert Boek, Revision: 6 December, 2018

As difficult is the monstrous nature in bestowal of justice as penalty
for the incitement of sedition being incomprehensible for our western
culture to fathom the capacity and capability for "SOVEREIGN AND
AUTONOMOUS RIGHT", the "POWER TO RULE" and "DISPENSE JUSTICE" by "EDICT
AS A DIVINE AUTHORITY" being PRINCIPLES OF THE SOVEREIGN AUTHORITY.

A JUDICIAL PREROGATIVE ALSO EXISTS WITHIN OUR LEGISLATION AS
CONSIDERATIONS UPON PENALTY MADE UNDER SECTION 9A - TREASON OF THE
CRIMES ACT 1958.

GIVEN EQUIVALENT MATTERS OF SEDITION / TREASON AS FASHIONABLY BOER /
ANZAC DEFAMATION {@1, @5, #65, #175} OCCASIONING RACIAL / RELIGIOUS AND
SEXUAL HATRED WERE REPORTED TO POLICE UPON 19 MARCH 2017 AN ONUS OF
ACCOUNTABILITY IS THEN PLACED UPON OTHER PARTIES WHOSE problems are
going to get manifestly worse due to the “ADVICE OF OUR PRIVY COUNCIL”
which is made upon a SUBSTANTIAL OATH as conveying an IMPLICIT VALUE
within the LETTERS PATENT to the COMMONWEALTH by MANDATING a *PROBITY*
and *DECORUM* towards the CROWN (eg: DIGNITY ROYAL AS ANY MANNER OF
THING TO BE ATTEMPTED, DONE, OR SPOKEN AGAINST HER MAJESTY'S PERSON,
HONOUR, CROWN, OR DIGNITY ROYAL, BUT YOU WILL LET AND WITHSTAND THE SAME
TO THE UTTERMOST OF YOUR POWER) which goes beyond the requirements to
purvey imagination of the TRUTH AS PERJURED TESTIMONY BY PERSONS WHOM
HAVE MADE RECIPROCATED ORDERS AND THEREBY GRANTED A SUI JURIS STATUS BY
THE COURT WHO CANNOT THEREFORE HAVE ANY RECOURSE TO A PSYCHOTIC MIND AS
DEFENCE FOR THEIR UNREASONABLE #123 - SENSIBILITY BY DEPRAVED CONDUCT.

AND THEIR INDOLENT MANNER OF LIFE LIKE THAT OF KHASHOGGI WILL FAIL THAT
THRESHOLD OF ACCEPTABILITY AND NO OTHER EVIDENCE WILL BE REQUIRED.

GIVEN SUCH GRAVITAS AS CONSIDERATION OF TREASON WHICH IS APPLIED TO
THESE MATTERS THE *REMEDY* *SOUGHT* IS AN APPLICATION OF A PREROGATIVE
POWER BY THE CROWN WHEREBY COMPLIANCE MUST BE ACCEDED TO THE DEATH
PENALTY WHICH WHILST NOT PRESCRIBED BY ANY LEGISLATION BUT IS GRANTED BY
LETTERS PATENT EITHER FROM THE GOVERNOR GENERAL OR THE LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR GENERAL.

That US President Donald TRUMP has been reported in news media
participating in dancing with sword 🗡 in hand euphoria, accordingly
understands the dictum: “HE WHO LIVES BY THE SWORD DIES BY THE SWORD”

YOUTUBE: “Donald Trump Sword Dance in Saudi Arabia”



TRUMP TWITTERS: THE PEN IS MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD AND 25 YEARS WAIT FOR
A DEATH PENALTY IS WHY AMERICAN JUSTICE RELIES UPON A WELL REGULATED
MILITIA

Such is the equivalent BILL OF RIGHTS notion relating to the protection
of the STATE by a well regulated MILITIA.

THE OATH OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA STATES: “I hereby
declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and ABJURE ALL
ALLEGIANCE AND FIDELITY TO ANY *FOREIGN* *PRINCE*, *POTENTATE*, *STATE*,
OR *SOVEREIGNTY*, OF WHOM OR WHICH I HAVE HERETOFORE BEEN A SUBJECT OR
CITIZEN; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the
United States of America AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC; that
I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms
on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will
perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States
when required by the law; that I will perform work of national
importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I
take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose
of evasion; so help me God.”

Every American citizen is a potential killer for political gains—He whom
is without sin, cast the first stone.

But since we knowing better and are not given to anarchist notion of
STATE have the meta-descriptor prototypes which defines all
instantiations of temporality and a faculty as capacity to convey a
cognitive conception of reality together with the #41 - ONTIC necessity
morality proscriptions by which integrity of the syncretism is assured,
to do that we need an APRIORITY categorical imperative by which to
provisionally frame our transcendent intention as impetus to fecund action:

1) JUXTAPOSITION {@1 - SOVEREIGNTY: SECTION VIII TO QUEEN VICTORIA'S
LETTERS PATENT 29 OCTOBER 1900}

2) CONTINUITY {@5 - SUCCESSIVE PRINCIPLE: SECTION IX TO QUEEN VICTORIA'S
LETTERS PATENT 29 OCTOBER 1900}

41 1 57
49 33 17
9 65 25 = #99 / #297 {#ONE: CRUCIFIXION UPON FRIDAY, 3 APRIL, 33 A.D.}

According to Kant, the starting point, a reflection on our moral
concepts {#41 x n}, leads immediately to the first intermediate thesis,
that (1) a moral law “HAS TO CARRY ABSOLUTE [#41 - *ONTIC*] NECESSITY
WITH IT” (GMS, 389,13). If this necessity is very narrowly interpreted,
that is, in the sense of the previously worked out modal status {

@1 - Nature Contains Nature [#328 - TRANSFORMATIVE PROTOTYPE] {

HOMOIOS
HETEROS
KABBALAH
AS DEFINED

} ...

@5 - Act of Nature [#369 - REVERSE TRANSCRIPTASE INHIBITOR WITH #164 -
CHRONOLOGICAL PLANE MAPPING] ...

#15 (@6 - Form of Nature: #260 - Transforming Nature [#41 - REMEMBER THE
SABBATH]) ...

45: [1 - I AM NOT A DOER OF WRONG]
68: [42 - I DO NOT THAT WHICH OFFENDETH THE GOD OF MY DOMAIN]

3) COHESION {@65 - ANTHROPOCENTRIC PROTOTYPE AND HUMAN RELATIONS: H54 -
MARRYING MAIDEN}

4) MATERIALITY {@175 - I AM NOT A TRANSGRESSOR (%22 - ONTIC_OBLIGANS
NECESSITY REVERSE TRANSCRIPTASE CATEGORICAL IMPERATIVE PROVIDES A
MORALITY SPECTRUM BY WHICH COHESION {ie. #65 / #175} IS FACILITATED) —
RATIONAL PI AS TIME DIVISIONS BY JUBILEES: #2184 x 49 = 107016 / 293
TROPICAL YEARS: 365.242321; WEEKS; DAYS: #2184}

Nous: #63
Time: 04:10 hrs
Date: 2018.5.23
Torah: [#1, #50, #10]@{
@1: Sup: 1 (#1); Ego: 1 (#1),
@2: Sup: 51 (#52); Ego: 50 (#51),
@3: Sup: 61 (#113); Ego: 10 (#61),
Male: #113; Feme: #61
} // #61

Dao: Origins in Reversal, Consider Beginnings
Tetra: #62 - Doubt
I-Ching: H51 - Quake, Thunderclap, Shake, The arousing (shock, thunder)

Latin: Decantatus {God of virtues} Alt: Yzalel {Deliverance of God} {

1. HELPS CONQUER & TO OBTAIN RELEASE FROM SIEGE
2. THE SCIENCES & ARTS
3. THE MEDITATION OF THE WISE
4. Souchoe
}

Asa {Physician; cure}

Prototype: *HOMOIOS* {#337 / #474} / HETEROS {#328 / #429} / TORAH {#314
/ #422}

3.2.7.63.0@{
@1: Sup: 48 (#48); Ego: 48 (#48),
@2: Sup: 42 (#90); Ego: 75 (#123),
@3: Sup: 24 (#114); Ego: 63 (#186 - I AM NOT ONE OF INCONSTANT MIND
{%31}),
@4: Sup: 57 (#171 - I AM NOT UNCHASTE WITH ANY ONE {%20}); Ego: 33
(#219),
@5: Sup: 29 (#200 - I AM NOT A ROBBER OF SACRED PROPERTY {%8});
Ego: 53 (#272),
@6: Sup: 32 (#232); Ego: 3 (#275),
@7: Sup: 32 (#264); Ego: 81 (#356),
@8: Sup: 4 (#268); Ego: 53 (#409),
@9: Sup: 69 (#337); Ego: 65 (#474),
Male: #337; Feme: #474
}

<http://www.grapple369.com?zen:3,row:2,col:7,nous:63&idea:{m,114}&idea:{f,186}&idea:{m,337}&idea:{f,474}&PROTOTYPE:HOMOIOS>

***@zen: 3, row: 2, col: 7, nous: 63 [Date: 2018.5.23, Time: 04:10
hrs, Super: #337 / #24 - Important Distinctions, Trouble from
Indulgence; I-Ching: H5 - Waiting, Delay, Attending, Waiting, Moistened,
Arriving; Tetra: 18 - Waiting, Ego: #474 / #63 - Origins in Reversal,
Consider Beginnings; I-Ching: H51 - Quake, Thunderclap, Shake, The
arousing (shock, thunder); Tetra: 62 - Doubt]

"AND WHEN THE DAY OF PENTECOST {IE. SUNDAY 23 MAY 33 AD AS TO "WAIT FOR
THE PROMISE OF THE FATHER" [ACTS 1:4 (KJV)]} WAS FULLY COME, THEY WERE
ALL WITH ONE ACCORD {ie. #391 - HOMOGENEOUS PRINCIPLES (FRATERNITÉ {29
OCTOBER 1900}} IN ONE PLACE.

YOUTUBE: "Arise, Shine, for Thy Light Has Come"





AND SUDDENLY THERE CAME A SOUND FROM HEAVEN AS OF A RUSHING MIGHTY WIND,
AND IT FILLED ALL THE HOUSE WHERE THEY WERE SITTING. AND THERE APPEARED
UNTO THEM CLOVEN TONGUES LIKE AS OF FIRE, AND IT SAT UPON EACH OF THEM.
AND THEY WERE ALL FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST, AND BEGAN TO SPEAK WITH
OTHER TONGUES, AS THE SPIRIT GAVE THEM UTTERANCE. AND THERE WERE
DWELLING AT JERUSALEM {VISION OF PEACE} JEWS, *DEVOUT* *MEN*, *OUT* *OF*
*EVERY* *NATION* *UNDER* *HEAVEN* {ie.

AS TO CONVEY AN EPISTEMOLOGICAL PREMISE TO COHESION / MATERIALITY OF THE
HUMAN COGNITION ITSELF BEING A #902 - LIVING SOUL / #902 - RULE OF LAW
(EGALITÉ {9 JULY 1900}: #22 x #41}.

#34 (@7 - Engendering Nature: #175 - NATURE AMENDED IN ITS NATURE [#82 -
HONOUR YOUR PARENTS]) ...

84: [2 - I AM NOT A MAN OF VIOLENCE]
86: [10 - I AM NOT A ROBBER OF FOOD]
102: [4 - I AM NOT RAPACIOUS]
104: [7 - I COMMIT NO FRAUD]
115: [5 - I AM NOT A SLAYER OF MEN]

#65 (@2 - NATURE REJOICES IN ITS NATURE: #34 - Engendering Nature [#123
- DO NOT KILL]) ...

130: [3 - I AM NOT EVIL MINDED]
139: [13 - I HAVE NOT SLAUGHTERED THE SACRED ANIMALS]
140: [14 - I DEAL NOT FRAUDULENTLY, 16 - I AM NOT AN EAVES-DROPPER]
146: [15 - I AM NOT A LAND-GRABBER]
148: [12 - I AM NOT A TRANSGRESSOR]
150: [28 - I INDULGE NOT IN ANGER]
156: [21 - I DO NOT CAUSE TERRORS]
157: [17 - I AM NOT ONE OF PRATING TONGUE, 41 - I HAVE NO STRONG
DESIRE EXCEPT FOR MY OWN PROPERTY]
158: [23 - I AM NOT HOT OF SPEECH]
161: [9 - I AM NOT A TELLER OF LIES]

#111 (@3 - Nature Surmounts Nature: #65 - NATURE REJOICES IN ITS NATURE
[#164 - AVOID HETERONOMY AGAINST AUTONOMY]) ...

166: [11 - I AM NOT SLUGGISH]
168: [26 - I AM NOT THE CAUSE OF WEEPING TO ANY]
169: [18 - I TROUBLE MYSELF ONLY WITH MY OWN AFFAIRS]
171: [20 - I AM NOT UNCHASTE WITH ANY ONE]
173: [27 - I AM NOT GIVEN TO UNNATURAL LUST]
175: [22 - I AM NOT A TRANSGRESSOR]
177: [29 - I AM NOT GIVEN TO CURSING]
180: [19 - I COMMIT NOT ADULTERY WITH ANOTHER'S WIFE]
181: [24 - I LEND NOT A DEAF EAR TO THE WORDS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, 35
- I AM NOT ONE WHO CURSETH THE KING]
182: [6 - I AM NOT FRAUDULENT IN MEASURES OF GRAIN]
184: [36 - I PUT NO CHECK UPON THE WATER IN ITS FLOW]
185: [25 - I AM NOT BOISTEROUS IN BEHAVIOUR]
186: [31 - I AM NOT ONE OF INCONSTANT MIND]
191: [32 - I DO NOT STEAL THE SKINS OF THE SACRED ANIMALS]
192: [39 - I AM NOT SWOLLEN WITH PRIDE]
196: [37 - I AM NOT ONE OF LOUD VOICE]
197: [33 - I AM NOT NOISY IN MY SPEECH]
200: [8 - I AM NOT A ROBBER OF SACRED PROPERTY]

#175 (@4 - NATURE AMENDED IN ITS NATURE: #369 - Autonomous Nature [#205
- DO NOT STEAL]) ...

210: [30 - I AM NOT OF AGGRESSIVE HAND]
215: [34 - I AM NEITHER A LIAR NOR A DOER OF MISCHIEF]
220: [38 - I CURSE NOT A GOD]
228: [40 - I HAVE NO UNJUST PREFERENCES]

IMMANUEL KANT'S PROLEGOMENA (1783) TO ANY FUTURE METAPHYSICS AS SECTION
#49 [IDEA: @336]: "Therefore the persistence of the soul can be proven
only during the life of a human being (which proof will doubtless be
granted us), but not after death (which is actually our concern) – and
indeed then only from the *UNIVERSAL* *GROUND* *THAT* *THE* *CONCEPT*
*OF* *SUBSTANCE*, insofar as it is to be considered as connected
necessarily with the concept of persistence, can be so connected only in
accordance with a principle of possible experience, and hence only for
the purpose of the latter. It is in fact quite remarkable that
metaphysicians have always slid so blithely over the *PRINCIPLE* *OF*
*THE* *PERSISTENCE* *OF* *SUBSTANCES*, without ever attempting to prove
it; doubtless because they found themselves completely forsaken by all
grounds of proof as soon as they commenced with the concept of
substance. Common sense, being well aware that without this *ASSUMPTION*
*NO* *UNIFICATION* *OF* *PERCEPTIONS* *IN* *AN* *EXPERIENCE* *WOULD*
*BE* *POSSIBLE*, made up for this defect with a postulate; for it could
never extract this principle from experience itself, partly because
experience cannot follow the materials (substances) through all their
alterations and dissolutions far enough to be able to find matter always
undiminished, partly because the *PRINCIPLE* *CONTAINS* [#41 - *ONTIC*]
*NECESSITY*, *WHICH* *IS* *ALWAYS* *THE* *SIGN* *OF* *AN* *A* *PRIORI*.
But the metaphysicians applied this principle confidently to the concept
of the soul as a substance and inferred its necessary continuation after
the death of a human {ie .#99 / #297 {#ONE: CRUCIFIXION UPON FRIDAY, 3
APRIL, 33 A.D)} being (*PRINCIPALLY* *BECAUSE* *THE* *SIMPLICITY* *OF*
*THIS* *SUBSTANCE*, *WHICH* *HAD* *BEEN* *INFERRED* *FROM* *THE*
*INDIVISIBILITY* *OF* *CONSCIOUSNESS*, *SAVED* *IT* *FROM* *DESTRUCTION*
*THROUGH* *DISSOLUTION*). Had they found the true source of this
principle, which however would have required far deeper investigations
than they ever wanted to start, then they would have seen: that this
*LAW* *OF* *THE* *PERSISTENCE* *OF* *SUBSTANCES* *IS* *GRANTED* *ONLY*
*FOR* *THE* *PURPOSE* *OF* *EXPERIENCE* and therefore can hold good only
for things insofar as they are to be cognized in experience and
connected with other things, but never for things irrespective of all
possible experience, hence not for the soul after death.

That our outer perceptions not only do correspond to something real
outside us, but must so correspond, also can never be proven as a
connection of things in themselves, but can well be proven for the
purpose of experience. This is as much as to say: it can very well be
proven that there is something outside us of an empirical kind, and
hence as appearance in space; for we are not concerned with other
objects than those that belong to a possible experience, just because
such objects cannot be given to us in any experience and therefore are
nothing for us. Outside me empirically is that which is intuited in
space; and because this space, together with all the appearances it
contains, belongs to those *REPRESENTATIONS* *WHOSE* *CONNECTION*
*ACCORDING* *TO* *LAWS* *OF* *EXPERIENCE* *PROVES* *THEIR* *OBJECTIVE*
*TRUTH* {

G2309@{
   @1: Sup: 9 (#9); Ego: 9 (#9),
   @2: Sup: 14 (#23); Ego: 5 (#14),
   @3: Sup: 44 (#67); Ego: 30 (#44),
   @4: Sup: 33 (#100); Ego: 70 (#114),
   @5: Sup: 2 (#102 - I AM NOT RAPACIOUS {%4}); Ego: 50 (#164),
   @6: Sup: 59 (#161 - I AM NOT A TELLER OF LIES {%9}); Ego: 57 (#221),
   @7: Sup: 69 (#230); Ego: 10 (#231),
   Male: #230; Feme: #231 <-- *JUXTAPOSITION* *CONTROL*
} // #474

T'AI HSÜAN CHING {POLAR OPPOSITIONS / INTERPLAY OF OPPOSITES} [4 BCE]:

UMBRA: #844 % #41 = #24 - Important Distinctions, Trouble from
Indulgence; I-Ching: H5 - Waiting, Delay, Attending, Waiting, Moistened,
Arriving; Tetra: 18 - Waiting;

THOTH MEASURE: #24 - Oh divine Babe, who makest thy appearance in Annu;
*I* *LEND* *NOT* *A* *DEAF* *EAR* *TO* *THE* *WORDS* *OF* *RIGHTEOUSNESS*.

    #VIRTUE: With Joy (no. #24), raising high, but
    #TOOLS: With Sinking (no. #64), hiding below.
    #POSITION: As to Response (no. #41), it is the present, but
    #TIME: As to Measure (no. #52), it is the past.
    #CANON: #181

ONTIC_OBLIGANS_181@{
   @1: Sup: 24 (#24); Ego: 24 (#24),
   @2: Sup: 7 (#31); Ego: 64 (#88),
   @3: Sup: 48 (#79); Ego: 41 (#129),
   @4: Sup: 19 (#98); Ego: 52 (#181 - I LEND NOT A DEAF EAR TO THE
WORDS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS {%24} / I AM NOT ONE WHO CURSETH THE KING {%35}),
   Male: #98; Feme: #181
} // #181

#474 as [#9, #5, #30, #70, #50, #300, #10] = thelo (G2309): {UMBRA: #11
as #844 % #41 = #24} 1) *TO* *WILL*, *HAVE* *IN* *MIND*, *INTEND*; 1a)
to be resolved or determined, to purpose; 1b) to desire, to wish; 1c) to
love; 1c1) to like to do a thing, be fond of doing; 1d) to take delight
in, have pleasure;

}, just as the connection of the appearances of the inner sense proves
the reality of my soul (as an object of inner sense), it follows that I
am, by means of outer appearances, just as conscious of the reality of
bodies as outer appearances in space, as I am, by means of inner
experience, conscious of the existence of my soul in time – which soul I
cognize only as an object of inner sense through the appearances
constituting an inner state, and whose being as it is in itself, which
underlies these appearances, is unknown to me. Cartesian idealism
therefore distinguishes only outer experience from dream, and lawfulness
as a criterion of the truth of the former from the disorder and false
illusion of the latter. In both cases [IDEA: @337] it presupposes space
and time as conditions for the existence of objects and merely asks
whether the objects of the outer senses are actually to be found in the
space in which we put them while awake, in the way that the object of
inner sense, the soul, actually is in time, that is, whether experience
carries with itself sure criteria to distinguish it from imagination.

Here the doubt can be easily removed, and we always remove it in
ordinary life by investigating the connection of appearances in both
space and time according to universal laws of experience, and if the
representation of outer things consistently agrees therewith, we cannot
doubt that those things should not constitute truthful experience.
Because appearances are considered as appearances only in accordance
with their connection within experience, material idealism can therefore
be very easily removed; and it is just as secure an experience that
bodies exist outside us (in space) as that I myself exist in accordance
with the representation of inner sense (in time) – for the concept:
outside us, signifies only existence in space. Since, however, the I in
the proposition I am does not signify merely the *OBJECT* *OF* *INNER*
*INTUITION* (*IN* *TIME*) *BUT* *ALSO* *THE* *SUBJECT* *OF*
*CONSCIOUSNESS*, just as body does not signifiy merely outer intuition
(in space) but also the thing in itself that underlies this appearance,
accordingly the question of whether bodies (as appearances of outer
sense) exist outside my thought as bodies in nature can without
hesitation be answered negatively; but here matters do not stand
otherwise for the question of whether I myself as an appearance of inner
sense (the soul according to empirical psychology) exist in time outside
my power of representation, for this question must also be answered
negatively.

In this way everything is, when reduced to its true signification,
conclusive and certain. Formal idealism (elsewhere called transcendental
idealism by me) actually destroys material or Cartesian idealism. For if
space is nothing but a form of my sensibility, then it is, as a
representation in me, just as real as I am myself, and the only question
remaining concerns the empirical truth of the appearances in this space.
If this is not the case, but rather space and the *APPEARANCES* *IN*
*IT* *ARE* *SOMETHING* *EXISTING* *OUTSIDE* *US*, *THEN* *ALL* *THE*
*CRITERIA* *OF* *EXPERIENCE* *CAN* *NEVER*, *OUTSIDE* *OUR*
*PERCEPTION*, *PROVE* *THE* *REALITY* *OF* *THESE* *OBJECTS* *OUTSIDE* *US*.

"NOW WHEN THIS WAS NOISED ABROAD, THE MULTITUDE CAME TOGETHER, AND
*WERE* *CONFOUNDED*, *BECAUSE* *THAT* *EVERY* *MAN* *HEARD* *THEM*
*SPEAK* *IN* *HIS* *OWN* *LANGUAGE*.

G1097@{
   @1: Sup: 3 (#3); Ego: 3 (#3),
   @2: Sup: 53 (#56); Ego: 50 (#53),
   @3: Sup: 42 (#98); Ego: 70 (#123),
   @4: Sup: 11 (#109); Ego: 50 (#173 - I AM NOT GIVEN TO UNNATURAL LUST
{%27}),
   @5: Sup: 68 (#177 - I AM NOT GIVEN TO CURSING {%29}); Ego: 57 (#230),
   @6: Sup: 69 (#246); Ego: 1 (#231),
   Male: #246; Feme: #231
} // #474

T'AI HSÜAN CHING {POLAR OPPOSITIONS / INTERPLAY OF OPPOSITES} [4 BCE]:

UMBRA: #1883 % #41 = #38 - Consequences for Virtuous Discourse; I-Ching:
H62 - Minor Superiority, Small Excess, Small Exceeding, Preponderance of
the small, Small surpassing; Tetra: 11 - Divergence;

THOTH MEASURE: #38 - Oh thou who makest mortals to flourish, and who
makest thine appearance at Sais; *I* *CURSE* *NOT* *A* *GOD*.

    #VIRTUE: Fullness (no. #38) means the prime of life, but
    #TOOLS: On the Verge (no. #78) means old age.
    #POSITION: With Kinship (no. #34), attachment between even distant
relatives.
    #TIME: With Severance (no. #70), offense to one’s own flesh and blood.
    #CANON: #220

ONTIC_OBLIGANS_220@{
   @1: Sup: 38 (#38); Ego: 38 (#38),
   @2: Sup: 35 (#73); Ego: 78 (#116),
   @3: Sup: 69 (#142); Ego: 34 (#150 - I INDULGE NOT IN ANGER {%28}),
   @4: Sup: 58 (#200 - I AM NOT A ROBBER OF SACRED PROPERTY {%8}); Ego:
70 (#220 - I CURSE NOT A GOD {%38}),
   Male: #200; Feme: #220
} // #220

#474 as [#3, #50, #70, #50, #300, #1] = ginosko (G1097): {UMBRA: #9 as
#1883 % #41 = #38} 1) to learn to know, come to know, get a knowledge of
perceive, feel; 2) to know, understand, perceive, have knowledge of; 3)
Jewish idiom for sexual intercourse between a man and a woman; 4) to
become acquainted with, to know; 1a) to become known; 2a) to understand;
2b) to know;

AND THEY WERE ALL AMAZED AND MARVELLED, SAYING ONE TO ANOTHER, BEHOLD,
ARE NOT ALL THESE WHICH SPEAK GALILAEANS {WHEEL; REVOLUTION: #492 -
VOLUNTARY FREE WILL (LIBERTÉ {17 SEPTEMBER 1900}: #12 X #41)}? AND HOW
HEAR WE EVERY MAN IN OUR OWN TONGUE, WHEREIN WE WERE BORN?

Parthians, and Medes {MEASURE; HABIT; COVERING}, and Elamites {A YOUNG
MAN; A VIRGIN; A SECRET}, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia {BETWEEN TWO
RIVERS}, and in Judaea {THE PRAISE OF THE LORD; CONFESSION}, and
Cappadocia {A SPHERE, BUCKLE, OR HAND}, in Pontus {THE SEA}, and Asia
{MUDDY; BOGGY}, Phrygia {DRY; BARREN}, and Pamphylia {A NATION MADE UP
OF EVERY TRIBE}, in Egypt {THAT TROUBLES OR OPPRESSES; ANGUISH}, and in
the parts of Libya {THE HEART OF THE SEA; FAT} about Cyrene {A WALL;
COLDNESS; THE FLOOR}, and strangers of Rome {STRENGTH; POWER}, Jews and
proselytes, Cretes {CARNAL; FLESHLY} and Arabians {EVENING; DESERT;
RAVENS}, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

AND THEY WERE ALL AMAZED, AND WERE IN DOUBT, SAYING ONE TO ANOTHER, WHAT
MEANETH THIS? OTHERS MOCKING SAID, THESE MEN ARE FULL OF NEW WINE."
[Acts 2:1-13 (KJV)]

#260 (@8 - Transforming Nature: #111 - Nature Surmounts Nature [#246 -
BEAR NO FALSE WITNESS]) ...

#369 (@9 - Autonomous Nature: #15 - Form of Nature [#287 - COVET NOT])

} of an ethical principle, then two peculiarities of the total
argumentation will become more understandable as prescriptive of its
trinomial basis to nomenclature.

IMMANUEL KANT'S PROLEGOMENA (1783) TO ANY FUTURE METAPHYSICS AS SECTION
#50 - COSMOLOGICAL IDEAS (CRITIQUE, PP. 405 FF.) [IDEA: @338]:

"This *PRODUCT* *OF* *PURE* *REASON* *IN* *ITS* *TRANSCENDENT* *USE*
*IS* *ITS* *MOST* *REMARKABLE* *PHENOMENON*, *AND* *IT* *WORKS* *THE*
*MOST* *STRONGLY* *OF* *ALL* *TO* *AWAKEN* *PHILOSOPHY* *FROM* *ITS*
*DOGMATIC* *SLUMBER*, and to prompt it toward the difficult business of
the critique of reason itself.

#2184 - (#390 + #312 + #390) = #1092 as ‘OTH CYCLE of 3 x #364 / 4 =
#273 - *MOMENT*

As an IDEA that the #2184 - NATURE AND SO TO SPEAK THE *LEGAL*
*CONSTITUTION* *OF* *THIS* *PROVINCE* *OUGHT* *REST* *ON* *COMPLETELY*
*DIFFERENT* *PRINCIPLES*, namely solely on the PRINCIPLE OF #312 -
*CONTRADICTION* {#364 x 4 + #371 = #1827 - #FIVE YEARS OF SILENCE AS
PYTHAGOREAN IMPIETY} BEING THE MISNOMERED FOUNDATIONAL BASIS TO ROMAN
CATHOLIC BLASPHEMOUS LITURGICAL STUPEFACTION, SEDITION AND TREASON:

#364 - ADMITTANCE +
#312 - RESISTANCE {*WITHERED* *STATE* *WREATHS* / RUSSIAN CONTRADICTIONS
ON NOVICHOK #274 - PERFUME POISONING} +
#728 - REACTANCE +
#390 - BRITISH CROWN (CALENDAR (NEW STYLE) ACT 1750 / ROYAL ASSENT: 27
MAY 1751) / AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE (4 JULY 1776) +
#390 - *WREATHS* / ROBBERS / EXTORTION = #2184 {#24 x #7 x #13 -
PRIESTLY SERVICE DIVISIONS TO JERUSALEM TEMPLE FROM 1550 BCE - [LUKE 1:5]}

I call this idea cosmological because it always finds its object only in
the sensible world and needs no other world than that whose object is an
object for the senses, and so, thus far, is immanent and not
transcendent, and therefore, up to this point, is not yet an idea; by
contrast, to think of the soul as a simple substance already amounts to
thinking of it as an object (the simple) the likes of which cannot be
represented at all to the senses. Notwithstanding all that, the
cosmological idea expands the connection of the conditioned with its
condition (be it mathematical or dynamic) so greatly that experience can
never match it, and therefore it is, with respect to this point, always
an idea whose object can never be adequately given in any experience
whatever." [CAMBRIDGE TEXTS IN THE HISTORY OF PHILOSOPHY, Kant's
Prolegomena to Any Future Metaphysics, IDEA @336 to @338]

At this stage of our conceptual thinking @ 0649 hours it is only
provisional and needs to convey an immaterially sublime rather than only
focused upon symbolic intuition by contrived gesturing as merely fixated
pontificated tokenism.

That AMERICAN justice for the death penalty takes 25 years is truly an
immoral obscenity.

- dolf

Initial Post: 5 December 2018
Post by American WASP - Convert NOW Or Die
Even more shock as evil Negro Muslim from Kenya Obama knew the words and
prayed like a good Christian while Trump refused.
Donald Trump Ignores Apostle's Creed at Bush Funeral, Is Questioned Over
'Christian' Credentials
Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and their wives glanced up and
down from the programs they held in front of them and spoke the prayer,
along with everyone else visible in the video.
It's a prayer recited in homes, churches, and cathedrals across the world,
as an affirmation of Christian faith and acceptance of the divinity of
Jesus Christ, as well as an acclamation of the Holy Trinity.
"I believe in God, the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth. Do you
believe in Jesus Christ? I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered
under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; he descended to
the dead."
The Apostle's Creed is Christianity 101 is what we're saying, known to
anyone with even the slightest familiarity of the religion But, as he is in
so many other things, Donald Trump seems ignorant of it; or at least, he
doesn't seem to know the words.
The recent state funeral of former US President George HW Bush saw other
previous holders of that high office, American statesmen, politicians,
diplomats and dignitaries, unfettered by partisanship and ideology, come
together simply to celebrate the extraordinary life and career of an even
more extraordinary man. It was truly a somber, respectful ceremony, until
the 45th President of the United States come and completely crass up the
joint.
ALSO READ | Scott Free: Donald Trump Makes Spelling Mistake, and Twitter is
Making Him Pay
Among his many faux-pas during the funeral, both Trump and his wife Melania
did not join in the prayer recited by everyone else present in the
cathedral.
According to the Washington Post, videos from the funeral showed a front
row of presidents at the Washington National Cathedral, standing and
reciting it along with the program. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack
Obama and their wives glanced up and down from the programs they held in
front of them and spoke the prayer, along with everyone else visible in the
video. The program, as is typical, calls for the prayer to be said in
unison. Trump stood, with his hands folded in front of him, his lips not
moving, the program held absently in one hand; Melania also did not speak,
nor did she hold a program.
The response was swift and unforgiving, with eagle-eyed observers pouncing
on the fact that a President, widely, if vaguely, viewed as a folk hero by
American Christian hardliners didn't seemn aware of, or even worse,
interested in this most basic of prayers.
John Ziegler
?
@Zigmanfreud
It�s SO weird that Barack Obama (the �Muslim�) knew all the words to the
Apostles� Creed, and Donald Trump (the Evangelical hero) didn�t know any of
them, and didn�t even bother to read them. #GeorgeHWBushFuneral
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@texasinafrica
The Trumps aren't reading along with the Apostles' Creed. It's right there
on the program.
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How do Donald and Melania Trump get away with not reciting the Apostles'
Creed along with literally everyone else in the National Cathedral? Not
even gonna participate in church, on camera, in front of the world. Can't
be bothered. #GeorgeHWBushFuneral
906
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YOUTUBE: "The Meerkat Circus"



SEE ALSO AS RELATIONSHIP: *INVALIDATING* {Perennial philosophy (HETEROS
{#390 - ROBBERS} v’s HOMOIOS {#391 - STEWARDS OF GOD’S HOUSE} THEORY OF
NUMBER) as universal of right and wrong...} *THE* *ORTHODOX* *AND*
*ROMAN* *CATHOLIC* *CHURCH'S* *CLAIM* {#390 as 1, #100, #80, #1, #3, #5,
#200 as harpax (G727): {#11 as #242} 1) rapacious, ravenous; 2) a
extortioner, a robber} *TO* *JUBILEE2000* *AS* *BEING* *DELUSIONAL*
*AND* *FRAUDULENT*

Private Street on the edge of the Central Business District dated 16th
May, 2000 - This report is prepared in response to a TP00/55 as a Notice
of an Application for Planning Permit

<http://www.grapple369.com/jubilee2000.html>

SEE ALSO: HYPOSTASIS AS DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6]

Chinese HAN Dynasty (206 BCE - 220CE) Hexagon Trigrams to Tetragram
assignments proposed by Yang Hsiung (53BCE - 18CE) which by 4BCE
(translation published within English as first European language in
1993), first appeared in draft form as a meta-thesis titled T'AI HSUAN
CHING {ie. Canon of Supreme Mystery} on Natural Divination associated
with the theory of number, annual seasonal chronology and astrology
reliant upon the seven visible planets as cosmological mother image and
the zodiac.

It shows the ZIRAN as the DAO of NATURE / COURSE-trochos OF
NATURE-genesis [James 3:6] as HYPOSTATIS comprising #81 trinomial
tetragrammaton x 4.5 day = #364.5 day / year as HOMOIOS THEORY OF NUMBER
which is an amalgam of the 64 hexagrams as binomial trigrams / 81 as
trinomial tetragrammaton rather than its encapsulated contrived use as
the microcosm to redefine the macrocosm as the quintessence of the
Pythagorean [Babylonian] as binomial canon of transposition as HETEROS
THEORY OF NUMBER.

<http://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>

The Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities No. 43 of Act 2006
defines a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING” and the question is, if it is
permissible to extend this definition to be a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN
BEING AS A CONSCIOUS REALITY OF HOMO[iOS] SAPIEN[T] WHO IS INSTANTIATED
WITHIN THE TEMPORAL REALITY AS THEN THE CAUSE FOR REASONING AND
RATIONALITY."

That my mathematical theoretical noumenon defines the meta-descriptor
prototypes which are prerequisite to the BEING of HOMO[iOS] SAPIEN[T] as
EXISTENCE / *OUSIA*.

<http://www.grapple369.com/Grapple.zip> (Download resources)

After all the ENNEAD of THOTH and not the Roman Catholic Eucharist,
expresses an Anthropic Cosmological Principle which appears within its
geometric conception as being equivalent to the Pythagorean
TETRAD/TETRACTYS.
The Man in the High Castle
2018-12-06 12:50:21 UTC
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Post by dolf
— THERE IS NO TRUTH TO THE SOYLENT GREEN RUMOUR THAT IN ORDER TO COMPLY
WITH HALAL CERTIFICATION WASABI IS BEING MARKETED AS KHASHOGGI
Do you seriously think anyone is going to read this entire post?
Malcolm McMahon
2018-12-06 15:03:13 UTC
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On Thursday, 6 December 2018 12:15:13 UTC, American WASP - Convert NOW Or Die wrote:
I wasn't aware that Trump ever made any claim to be Christianity. There's clearly no room for other gods in his self-worship.
Your Naturalistic Constitution Is In Error
2018-12-06 16:58:08 UTC
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Post by Malcolm McMahon
I wasn't aware that Trump ever made any claim to be Christianity. There's clearly no room for other gods in his self-worship.
Eeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! At least he doesn't worship Darwin
Kevrob
2018-12-06 17:22:13 UTC
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Post by Malcolm McMahon
I wasn't aware that Trump ever made any claim to be Christianity. There's clearly no room for other gods in his self-worship.
Trump says he's a Presbyterian and attended a Reformed church in Manhattan,
but was not an official member there.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/28/politics/donald-trump-church-member/index.html

When I was a Catholic, I would not have prayed the Episcopal/Anglican
version of the Apostles Creed, as the wording is slightly different,
reflecting different theological positions of the two churches.
The same was true for the Lord's Prayer (Our Father,) especially the
inclusion/exclusion of the doxology. I suspect modern Catholics
would be more likely to join in.

I have no idea if Trump had reservations about the form of prayer
used at the Bush service, or is just a lazy lout who says he believes
for social purposes, but may not actually have any moral investment
in Christianity. Onew could judge based on his actions that, if he
is really a Christian, he might be a lousy one.

---
Kevin R
a.a #2310
ex-altar boy, who used to have all the mass
responses memorized, in English, anyway.
Christopher A. Lee
2018-12-06 17:39:47 UTC
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Post by Kevrob
Post by Malcolm McMahon
I wasn't aware that Trump ever made any claim to be Christianity. There's clearly no room for other gods in his self-worship.
Trump says he's a Presbyterian and attended a Reformed church in Manhattan,
but was not an official member there.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/28/politics/donald-trump-church-member/index.html
When I was a Catholic, I would not have prayed the Episcopal/Anglican
version of the Apostles Creed, as the wording is slightly different,
reflecting different theological positions of the two churches.
The same was true for the Lord's Prayer (Our Father,) especially the
inclusion/exclusion of the doxology. I suspect modern Catholics
would be more likely to join in.
Have you heard of the 1884 Philadelphia Bible riots? Catholics
objected to their kids being forced to practice Protestantism in
schools, read the Protestant Bible, etc. The then equivalent of fake
news, included accusations that the Catholics were trying to remove
the Bible, propagated by the 19th century equivalents of Rush
Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Donald Trump, etc.
Post by Kevrob
I have no idea if Trump had reservations about the form of prayer
used at the Bush service, or is just a lazy lout who says he believes
for social purposes, but may not actually have any moral investment
in Christianity. Onew could judge based on his actions that, if he
is really a Christian, he might be a lousy one.
He's probably just a weak believer who doesn't give it much thought.
Kevrob
2018-12-06 18:16:52 UTC
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Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Kevrob
Post by Malcolm McMahon
I wasn't aware that Trump ever made any claim to be Christianity. There's clearly no room for other gods in his self-worship.
Trump says he's a Presbyterian and attended a Reformed church in Manhattan,
but was not an official member there.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/28/politics/donald-trump-church-member/index.html
When I was a Catholic, I would not have prayed the Episcopal/Anglican
version of the Apostles Creed, as the wording is slightly different,
reflecting different theological positions of the two churches.
The same was true for the Lord's Prayer (Our Father,) especially the
inclusion/exclusion of the doxology. I suspect modern Catholics
would be more likely to join in.
Have you heard of the 1884 Philadelphia Bible riots?
Yes. I've brought that incident up here, myself.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/%22common$20school$20in$20the$20colonial$20or$20federal$20periods$20of$20U.S.$20history%22$20kevrob/alt.atheism/bBVBDj-UjVE/Tv1ctqB3CQAJ

OR

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3C5205c571-486a-43ee-8a17-54091c5c0a6f%40googlegroups.com%3E
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Catholics objected to their kids being forced to practice Protestantism
in schools, read the Protestant Bible, etc. The then equivalent of fake
news, included accusations that the Catholics were trying to remove
the Bible, propagated by the 19th century equivalents of Rush
Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Donald Trump, etc.
Post by Kevrob
I have no idea if Trump had reservations about the form of prayer
used at the Bush service, or is just a lazy lout who says he believes
for social purposes, but may not actually have any moral investment
in Christianity. Onew could judge based on his actions that, if he
is really a Christian, he might be a lousy one.
He's probably just a weak believer who doesn't give it much thought.
Like a lot of political leaders, I expect his true faith is some
form of "Me-ism." (Trumpism, in his case.)

---
Kevin R
a.a #2310
Malcolm McMahon
2018-12-15 12:36:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Kevrob
Post by Malcolm McMahon
I wasn't aware that Trump ever made any claim to be Christianity. There's
clearly no room for other gods in his self-worship.
Trump says he's a Presbyterian and attended a Reformed church in Manhattan,
but was not an official member there.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/28/politics/donald-trump-church-member/index.html
When I was a Catholic, I would not have prayed the Episcopal/Anglican
version of the Apostles Creed, as the wording is slightly different,
reflecting different theological positions of the two churches.
The same was true for the Lord's Prayer (Our Father,) especially the
inclusion/exclusion of the doxology. I suspect modern Catholics
would be more likely to join in.
Have you heard of the 1884 Philadelphia Bible riots? Catholics
objected to their kids being forced to practice Protestantism in
schools, read the Protestant Bible, etc. The then equivalent of fake
news, included accusations that the Catholics were trying to remove
the Bible, propagated by the 19th century equivalents of Rush
Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Donald Trump, etc.
Post by Kevrob
I have no idea if Trump had reservations about the form of prayer
used at the Bush service, or is just a lazy lout who says he believes
for social purposes, but may not actually have any moral investment
in Christianity. Onew could judge based on his actions that, if he
is really a Christian, he might be a lousy one.
He's probably just a weak believer who doesn't give it much thought.
He doesn't seem to do belief of any sort. Belief is for the rubes.
Mr. B1ack
2018-12-06 16:33:53 UTC
Permalink
Leftists are AGAINST Christians - even more than
Moslems or Jews. So ... if Trump doesn't seem quite
as "Christian" as you like to portray him, you OUGHT
to be absolutely delighted :-)
Kevrob
2018-12-06 17:23:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mr. B1ack
Leftists are AGAINST Christians - even more than
Moslems or Jews. So ... if Trump doesn't seem quite
as "Christian" as you like to portray him, you OUGHT
to be absolutely delighted :-)
There are lefty Christians. Have you never seen
SOJOURNERS magazine, or heard of the Harvard Divinity School.

---
Kevin R
a.a #2310
Malcolm McMahon
2018-12-15 12:37:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mr. B1ack
Leftists are AGAINST Christians - even more than
Moslems or Jews. So ... if Trump doesn't seem quite
as "Christian" as you like to portray him, you OUGHT
to be absolutely delighted :-)
Actually, for me, it was the one positive thing about him. Winning the
religious vote was Pence's job.

Your Naturalistic Constitution Is In Error
2018-12-06 16:54:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by American WASP - Convert NOW Or Die
Even more shock as evil Negro Muslim from Kenya Obama knew the words and
prayed like a good Christian while Trump refused.
Donald Trump Ignores Apostle's Creed at Bush Funeral, Is Questioned Over
'Christian' Credentials
Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and their wives glanced up and
down from the programs they held in front of them and spoke the prayer,
along with everyone else visible in the video.
It's a prayer recited in homes, churches, and cathedrals across the world,
as an affirmation of Christian faith and acceptance of the divinity of
Jesus Christ, as well as an acclamation of the Holy Trinity.
"I believe in God, the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth. Do you
believe in Jesus Christ? I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered
under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; he descended to
the dead."
The Apostle's Creed is Christianity 101 is what we're saying, known to
anyone with even the slightest familiarity of the religion But, as he is in
so many other things, Donald Trump seems ignorant of it; or at least, he
doesn't seem to know the words.
The recent state funeral of former US President George HW Bush saw other
previous holders of that high office, American statesmen, politicians,
diplomats and dignitaries, unfettered by partisanship and ideology, come
together simply to celebrate the extraordinary life and career of an even
more extraordinary man. It was truly a somber, respectful ceremony, until
the 45th President of the United States come and completely crass up the
joint.
ALSO READ | Scott Free: Donald Trump Makes Spelling Mistake, and Twitter is
Making Him Pay
Among his many faux-pas during the funeral, both Trump and his wife Melania
did not join in the prayer recited by everyone else present in the
cathedral.
According to the Washington Post,
So you were NOT there yourself? I don't believe anything the Washington post says, It's nothing but FAKENEWS....
Your Naturalistic Constitution Is In Error
2018-12-06 17:41:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by American WASP - Convert NOW Or Die
Even more shock as evil Negro Muslim from Kenya Obama knew the words and
prayed like a good Christian while Trump refused.
Donald Trump Ignores Apostle's Creed at Bush Funeral, Is Questioned Over
'Christian' Credentials
Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and their wives glanced up and
down from the programs they held in front of them and spoke the prayer,
along with everyone else visible in the video.
The Apostles' Creed was not TRINITARIAN; Nicaea Creed was.
Post by American WASP - Convert NOW Or Die
It's a prayer recited in homes, churches, and cathedrals across the world,
as an affirmation of Christian faith and acceptance of the divinity of
Jesus Christ, as well as an acclamation of the Holy Trinity.
"I believe in God, the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth. Do you
believe in Jesus Christ? I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered
under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; he descended to
the dead."
The Apostle's Creed is Christianity 101 is what we're saying, known to
anyone with even the slightest familiarity of the religion But, as he is in
so many other things, Donald Trump seems ignorant of it; or at least, he
doesn't seem to know the words.
The recent state funeral of former US President George HW Bush saw other
previous holders of that high office, American statesmen, politicians,
diplomats and dignitaries, unfettered by partisanship and ideology, come
together simply to celebrate the extraordinary life and career of an even
more extraordinary man. It was truly a somber, respectful ceremony, until
the 45th President of the United States come and completely crass up the
joint.
ALSO READ | Scott Free: Donald Trump Makes Spelling Mistake, and Twitter is
Making Him Pay
Among his many faux-pas during the funeral, both Trump and his wife Melania
did not join in the prayer recited by everyone else present in the
cathedral.
According to the Washington Post, videos from the funeral showed a front
row of presidents at the Washington National Cathedral, standing and
reciting it along with the program. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack
Obama and their wives glanced up and down from the programs they held in
front of them and spoke the prayer, along with everyone else visible in the
video. The program, as is typical, calls for the prayer to be said in
unison. Trump stood, with his hands folded in front of him, his lips not
moving, the program held absently in one hand; Melania also did not speak,
nor did she hold a program.
The response was swift and unforgiving, with eagle-eyed observers pouncing
on the fact that a President, widely, if vaguely, viewed as a folk hero by
American Christian hardliners didn't seemn aware of, or even worse,
interested in this most basic of prayers.
John Ziegler
?
@Zigmanfreud
It’s SO weird that Barack Obama (the “Muslim”) knew all the words to the
Apostles’ Creed, and Donald Trump (the Evangelical hero) didn’t know any of
them, and didn’t even bother to read them. #GeorgeHWBushFuneral
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@texasinafrica
The Trumps aren't reading along with the Apostles' Creed. It's right there
on the program.
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@ModernKingfish
How do Donald and Melania Trump get away with not reciting the Apostles'
Creed along with literally everyone else in the National Cathedral? Not
even gonna participate in church, on camera, in front of the world. Can't
be bothered. #GeorgeHWBushFuneral
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Daniel60
2018-12-08 11:36:43 UTC
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Post by American WASP - Convert NOW Or Die
Even more shock as evil Negro Muslim from Kenya Obama knew the words and
prayed like a good Christian while Trump refused.
Donald Trump Ignores Apostle's Creed at Bush Funeral, Is Questioned Over
'Christian' Credentials
Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and their wives glanced up and
down from the programs they held in front of them and spoke the prayer,
along with everyone else visible in the video.
It's a prayer recited in homes, churches, and cathedrals across the world,
as an affirmation of Christian faith and acceptance of the divinity of
Jesus Christ, as well as an acclamation of the Holy Trinity.
"I believe in God, the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth. Do you
believe in Jesus Christ? I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered
under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; he descended to
the dead."
The Apostle's Creed is Christianity 101 is what we're saying, known to
anyone with even the slightest familiarity of the religion But, as he is in
so many other things, Donald Trump seems ignorant of it; or at least, he
doesn't seem to know the words.
"The Apostle's Creed"!! Why is it called "The Apostle's Creed"??

As I understand it, "The Apostle's Creed" can be broken up into the
twelve basic tenants of Christianity.

Not that I've ever tried myself!! ;-P
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Daniel
Avenging Angel
2018-12-08 14:56:55 UTC
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"American WASP - Convert NOW Or Die" <***@fox.net> wrote in news:***@178.63.61.175:
Shut up you hateful asshole.
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