Democrats Win Kentucky!

On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

Post by Mack A. Damia
Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentuckys Trump-loving governor
Matt Bevin
Its a huge win for Democrats in a very conservative state. Trump won
the state by a whopping 30 points in 2016.
Trump told thousand of supporters ahead of Tuesday's election. "If you
win, they are going to make it like, ho hum. And if you lose, they are
going to say Trump suffered the greatest defeat in the history of the
world. You can't let that happen to me!"
Well, donnie, it happened to you!

A faint ray of hope. Maybe b

Mack A. Damia

2019-11-06 04:09:09 UTC

Post by Jack
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

Democrats took the Virginia legislature, too. First time in twenty
years.

An awful lot of Republicans - especially those seeking re-election
next year - are getting very nervous. This is good.

occam

2019-11-06 07:41:53 UTC

Post by Jack
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor
Matt Bevin
It’s a huge win for Democrats in a very conservative state. Trump won
the state by a whopping 30 points in 2016.
Trump told thousand of supporters ahead of Tuesday's election. "If you
win, they are going to make it like, ho hum. And if you lose, they are
going to say Trump suffered the greatest defeat in the history of the
world. You can't let that happen to me!"
Well, donnie, it happened to you!

A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

"Putin's Mitch"? Or did you mean Putin's bitch? Either way, it works.

RH Draney

2019-11-06 11:09:20 UTC

Post by Jack
A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

"Putin's Mitch"? Or did you mean Putin's bitch? Either way, it works.

The press seems to prefer "Moscow Mitch"...the other term was used with
no connection to Putin when someone on "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me"
observed that Mr McConnell is physically incapable of looking
happy...they attributed it to "resting Mitch face"....r

Jack

2019-11-06 14:05:12 UTC

Post by Jack
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

"Putin's Mitch"? Or did you mean Putin's bitch? Either way, it works.

It was on a billboard in Kentucky in July:
https://tinyurl.com/y3pf3hqx

Lewis

2019-11-06 23:07:11 UTC

Post by Jack
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

Has the Republican incumbent conceded?
I thought there was a very narrow margin and some muttering about
"irregularities" - which might be a foretaste of Trump's response in 2020.

Last I heard the Treason Party was considering appointing the Republic
loser as Governor, but I did not follow up on that to check the sources,
so it could be an entirely unfounded rumor.

Although, to be fair, the fact that it is perfectly believable says a
lot about the current state of the GOP's position on upholding laws and
their oaths to defend the Constitution.

--
Trying to engage you in any meaningful discussion is like trying to play
chess with a pigeon. You shit all over the board and then strut around
acting like you won.

John Varela

2019-11-07 19:51:50 UTC

On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 23:07:11 UTC, Lewis

Post by Lewis

Post by Jack
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentuckys Trump-loving governor
Matt Bevin
Its a huge win for Democrats in a very conservative state. Trump won
the state by a whopping 30 points in 2016.
Trump told thousand of supporters ahead of Tuesday's election. "If you
win, they are going to make it like, ho hum. And if you lose, they are
going to say Trump suffered the greatest defeat in the history of the
world. You can't let that happen to me!"
Well, donnie, it happened to you!

A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

Has the Republican incumbent conceded?
I thought there was a very narrow margin and some muttering about
"irregularities" - which might be a foretaste of Trump's response in 2020.

Last I heard the Treason Party was considering appointing the Republic
loser as Governor, but I did not follow up on that to check the sources,
so it could be an entirely unfounded rumor.
Although, to be fair, the fact that it is perfectly believable says a
lot about the current state of the GOP's position on upholding laws and
their oaths to defend the Constitution.

Re oaths, James Comey has a good op-ed in today's Washington Post:

<https://preview.tinyurl.com/y617lqme>

--
John Varela

Peter Moylan

2019-11-06 23:48:40 UTC

Post by Jack
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

Has the Republican incumbent conceded?
I thought there was a very narrow margin and some muttering about
"irregularities" - which might be a foretaste of Trump's response in 2020.

Rulers who refuse to be ejected have to have the military on their side.
I have the impression that Trump doesn't have many friends in the top
levels of the military.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

Sam Plusnet

2019-11-07 01:36:17 UTC

Post by Jack
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

Has the Republican incumbent conceded?
I thought there was a very narrow margin and some muttering about
"irregularities" - which might be a foretaste of Trump's response in 2020.

Rulers who refuse to be ejected have to have the military on their side.
I have the impression that Trump doesn't have many friends in the top
levels of the military.

Could he make do with a NRA/MAGA coalition?

--
Sam Plusnet

occam

2019-11-08 20:19:27 UTC

Post by Jack
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

Has the Republican incumbent conceded?
I thought there was a very narrow margin and some muttering about
"irregularities" - which might be a foretaste of Trump's response in 2020.

Rulers who refuse to be ejected have to have the military on their side.
I have the impression that Trump doesn't have many friends in the top
levels of the military.

He apparently has quite a few high level military admireres: in N.
Korea, Russia, Turkey...

Athel Cornish-Bowden

2019-11-08 20:53:21 UTC

Post by Jack
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

Has the Republican incumbent conceded?
I thought there was a very narrow margin and some muttering about
"irregularities" - which might be a foretaste of Trump's response in 2020.

Rulers who refuse to be ejected have to have the military on their side.
I have the impression that Trump doesn't have many friends in the top
levels of the military.

He apparently has quite a few high level military admireres: in N.
Korea, Russia, Turkey...

I doubt whether they really admire him (does anyone?). They just
realize that telling him how wonderful he is will get him to do what
they want.

--
athel

Mack A. Damia

2019-11-12 05:06:05 UTC

Post by Jack
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

Has the Republican incumbent conceded?
I thought there was a very narrow margin and some muttering about
"irregularities" - which might be a foretaste of Trump's response in 2020.

"Skeptics Urge Bevin To Show Proof Of Fraud Claims, Warning Of
Corrosive Effects"

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/10/777300611/skeptics-urge-bevin-to-show-proof-of-fraud-claims-warning-of-corrosive-effects?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&fbclid=IwAR3AXAN3D4jDfFrO5OSSIupiwTkdv6b-H7JZhTgpui6F35l6IU8aQIzBr4c

Post by Peter Moylan
Rulers who refuse to be ejected have to have the military on their side.
I have the impression that Trump doesn't have many friends in the top
levels of the military.

He apparently has quite a few high level military admireres: in N.
Korea, Russia, Turkey...

Mack A. Damia

2019-11-07 00:06:01 UTC

Post by Jack
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

Has the Republican incumbent conceded?
I thought there was a very narrow margin and some muttering about
"irregularities" - which might be a foretaste of Trump's response in 2020.

There will be a "re-canvas" a week from tomorrow (Thursday). This is
to see that all of the tallies were recorded correctly. If they were
not, then there is a full-scale re-count.

If Republicans should uncover any corruption in the election, the
Bevin campaign could also make a petition to contest the results
provided there's a convincing reason.

Sounds fishy.

Kentucky's Secretary of State let something slip (maybe) this morning
when he mentioned "checking for transpositions". Beshear presently
has an edge of just over 5,000 votes. If a corrupt county official
says, "Oops, this tally for Bevin was 9,298, but it was recorded as
2,998", there are more than enough votes to change the outcome of the
election.

You never know in this corrupt culture.

Peter T. Daniels

2019-11-07 03:43:25 UTC

Post by Jack
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor
Matt Bevin
It’s a huge win for Democrats in a very conservative state. Trump won
the state by a whopping 30 points in 2016.

A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

Has the Republican incumbent conceded?
I thought there was a very narrow margin and some muttering about
"irregularities" - which might be a foretaste of Trump's response in 2020.

Demanded a "recanvas," and then will demand a "recount." Remember how
many months it was before Al Franken was seated?

Mack A. Damia

2019-11-14 19:41:32 UTC

Post by Jack
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:44:46 -0800, Mack A. Damia

Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor
Matt Bevin
It’s a huge win for Democrats in a very conservative state. Trump won
the state by a whopping 30 points in 2016.

A faint ray of hope. Maybe bad news for Putin's Mitch.

Has the Republican incumbent conceded?
I thought there was a very narrow margin and some muttering about
"irregularities" - which might be a foretaste of Trump's response in 2020.

Demanded a "recanvas," and then will demand a "recount." Remember how
many months it was before Al Franken was seated?

Bevin concedes Kentucky governor's race
Beshear will be sworn in next month.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/14/matt-bevin-concedes-kentucky-governor-070975

Peter T. Daniels

2019-11-06 13:42:36 UTC

Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor
Matt Bevin

And of course the loser is refusing to admit defeat.

It’s a huge win for Democrats in a very conservative state. Trump won
the state by a whopping 30 points in 2016.
Trump told thousand of supporters ahead of Tuesday's election. "If you
win, they are going to make it like, ho hum. And if you lose, they are
going to say Trump suffered the greatest defeat in the history of the
world. You can't let that happen to me!"
Well, donnie, it happened to you!

This thread should have been marked OT. It is no more appropriate than
those of Jay Stevens or "colonel."

Mack A. Damia

2019-11-06 17:39:02 UTC

On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 05:42:36 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"

Post by Mack A. Damia
Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentuckys Trump-loving governor
Matt Bevin

And of course the loser is refusing to admit defeat.

Post by Mack A. Damia
Its a huge win for Democrats in a very conservative state. Trump won
the state by a whopping 30 points in 2016.
Trump told thousand of supporters ahead of Tuesday's election. "If you
win, they are going to make it like, ho hum. And if you lose, they are
going to say Trump suffered the greatest defeat in the history of the
world. You can't let that happen to me!"
Well, donnie, it happened to you!

This thread should have been marked OT. It is no more appropriate than
those of Jay Stevens or "colonel."

Fairly obvious from the title of the thread that it is OT, but what
does it matter? There are a few in here who will immediately drift
the thread.

Childish pissing games.

Athel Cornish-Bowden

2019-11-08 12:27:32 UTC

The whole business of elections in the USA doesn't look much fairer
than a lottery. The Guardizn reported yesterday that

Post by Mack A. Damia
The United States is ranked 57th in electoral integrity in the world.
Compared to other liberal democracies, it is ranked second to last.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/07/is-america-a-democracy-if-so-why-does-it-deny-millions-the-vote

https://tinyurl.com/y2tk4jjo

Still, the USA can be proud of being more democratic than Albania
(though Albania is not the first country that springs to mind when I
hear the phrase "liberal democracy").

--
athel

Peter T. Daniels

2019-11-08 15:33:19 UTC

The whole business of elections in the USA doesn't look much fairer
than a lottery. The Guardizn reported yesterday that

The United States is ranked 57th in electoral integrity in the world.
Compared to other liberal democracies, it is ranked second to last.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/07/is-america-a-democracy-if-so-why-does-it-deny-millions-the-vote
https://tinyurl.com/y2tk4jjo
Still, the USA can be proud of being more democratic than Albania
(though Albania is not the first country that springs to mind when I
hear the phrase "liberal democracy").

What's their definition of "America"? There are literally thousands of
polities holding elections on a regular basis (unlike you-lot, who can
have them or cancel them at whim, it appears).

Of course. They tar the whole with the sins of a few.

RH Draney

2019-11-08 17:02:31 UTC

Post by Peter T. Daniels
What's their definition of "America"? There are literally thousands of
polities holding elections on a regular basis (unlike you-lot, who can
have them or cancel them at whim, it appears).
Of course. They tar the whole with the sins of a few.

My definition of "America" is the guys who first made their mark with "A
Horse With No Name", followed it up with the likes of "Ventura Highway",
"Sister Golden Hair", "Tin Man", and even the original version of
"Muskrat Love"...they haven't had a decent hit since 1982's "You Can Do
Magic", despite help from a couple of other musicians (the ones who did
"Fish Heads") trying in vain to Make America Great Again....r

Athel Cornish-Bowden

2019-11-08 18:03:00 UTC

The whole business of elections in the USA doesn't look much fairer>
than a lottery. The Guardizn reported yesterday that

The United States is ranked 57th in electoral integrity in the world.>

Post by Mack A. Damia
Compared to other liberal democracies, it is ranked second to last.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/07/is-america-a-democracy-if-so-why-does-it-deny-millions-the-vote>>>
https://tinyurl.com/y2tk4jjo
Still, the USA can be proud of being more democratic than Albania>
(though Albania is not the first country that springs to mind when I>
hear the phrase "liberal democracy").

What's their definition of "America"?

If you followed the link and read the report you'd know. The research
was done by people at Harvard and the University of Sydney. There is no
mention of "America" in what I quoted except as part of the URL. Would
you have been happier if they'd called the link
"https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/07/is-the-united
states-of-america-a-democracy-if-so-why-does-it-deny-millions-the-vote"
?

In the past I've had the impression that you and others are quite
content to regard "America" as a synonym for "the United States of
America" and consider it as pedantry to point out that there are lots
of other countries in America.

Post by Peter T. Daniels
There are literally thousands ofpolities holding elections on a regular
basis (unlike you-lot, who canhave them or cancel them at whim, it
appears).
Of course. They tar the whole with the sins of a few.

--
athel

Peter T. Daniels

2019-11-08 19:27:57 UTC

The whole business of elections in the USA doesn't look much fairer>
than a lottery. The Guardizn reported yesterday that

The United States is ranked 57th in electoral integrity in the world.>

Post by Mack A. Damia
Compared to other liberal democracies, it is ranked second to last.

What's their definition of "America"?

If you followed the link and read the report you'd know.

I did. That was how I could add my conclusion. Didn't you read that far
before typing?

Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
The research
was done by people at Harvard and the University of Sydney. There is no
mention of "America" in what I quoted except as part of the URL. Would
you have been happier if they'd called the link
"https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/07/is-the-united
states-of-america-a-democracy-if-so-why-does-it-deny-millions-the-vote"
?

No, it could have stressed what it actually found: that racist polities
continue to carry out racist practices in vote-denying.

Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
In the past I've had the impression that you and others are quite
content to regard "America" as a synonym for "the United States of
America" and consider it as pedantry to point out that there are lots
of other countries in America.

Which isn't remotely what I was suggesting.

Yup, you simply overlooked that bit.

Mack A. Damia

2019-11-08 18:27:09 UTC

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 13:27:32 +0100, Athel Cornish-Bowden

Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky?s Trump-loving governor
Matt Bevin
It?s a huge win for Democrats in a very conservative state. Trump won
the state by a whopping 30 points in 2016.
Trump told thousand of supporters ahead of Tuesday's election. "If you
win, they are going to make it like, ho hum. And if you lose, they are
going to say Trump suffered the greatest defeat in the history of the
world. You can't let that happen to me!"
Well, donnie, it happened to you!

The whole business of elections in the USA doesn't look much fairer
than a lottery. The Guardizn reported yesterday that

Theoretically, the Electoral College is a relic of the past. An
enlightened citizenry can choose their president directly. It is the
most powerful office on earth. Practically, though, the citizenry
are not enlightened enough to choose their own leader.