Michael Ejercito
2017-10-22 16:17:37 UTC
Here is a Usenet discussion on gun control from twenty-five years ago.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.culture.african.american/-2TwVOBXpys/jcDAgF3f3-MJ
"The leading cause of death of Black males between the age of 15 and 24
is murder, and can be attributed to the hand gun and other
semi-automatic weaponry. The life expectancy of these young black males
in cities like L.A. and Washington D.C. is less than the soldiers
fighting in Vietnam. How can we as a society use these "Bill of Rights"
as a shield and hide our eyes to the reality that a generation of the
nation's youth are being systematically eliminated? What of the rights
of the hundreds of lives that are needlessly snuffed out every month of
every year?"- George W. Hunter
"The same way we use the 1st and 5th amendments. They protect EVERYBODY.
When you start limiting them, you ENDANGER everybody. The REAL question is
how
we can make ourselves safer by destroying the rights of non-criminals?"-
Christopher C. Morton
"While its true that a major root to these problems is the drug issue.
We must deal with this issue, but we must also cure the immediate
problem. The problem is the availability of guns. It is irrelevent
where the weapons are obtained. The relevent matter is that the guns
are available and they are available to anyone who wants them. "- George W.
Hunter
" And they will CONTINUE to be available. There's NOTHING you can do about
it.
At most you can severely limit the rights of ALL people, and not just
regarding guns. You can no more uninvent guns than you can uninvent fire.
People
make submachineguns in PRISON. Along with banning the 1st, 2nd, and 5th
amendments will you also ban machinetools and seemless aluminum tubing?"-
Christopher
C. Morton
" Lets take a lead form Canada, from Sweeden, from England. These
countries have outlawed the handgun. And an amazing thing has
happened....They have in essence no murders by handgun! If you combine
the total number of deaths by handgun in all of three of these countries
for the last five years, they do not compare with the number of deaths
in D.C. alone last year. In Canada, we are talking about less than 20
murders by handgun last year!"- George W. Hunter
"Their murder rates are RISING. Of course that's beside the point anyway.
Why not take the lead of South Africa? We could institute a pass law system
and
limit the movements of young Black males. We could make them live in barbed
wire enclosed hostels so that the police could better control their
movements.
Why not follow THAT example? The next thing you know, you'll be telling me
that that would be unconstitutional and WRONG....
Of course if you DID get your way, and you conferred upon Daryl Gates and
Jesse Helms the monopoly on the means of armed force, the above probably
WOULD happen."- Christopher C. Morton
"Lets stop being incredibly stupid and open our eyes to the reality that
we as a nation will have to eliminate these weapons sooner or later, if
we are to save this generation of black males. Lets make it
sooner....don't let another innocent person die a meaningless and
avoidable death."- George W. Hunter
"NOBODY can eliminate them without eliminating the constitution as a whole,
not just the 2nd amendment. Of course the Soviet Union didn't HAVE the 2nd
amendment, and THEY couldn't take everybody's gun away EITHER. If you want
to REALLY do away with all PRIVATELY (read owned by Blacks) owned weapons,
you'd better ditch the pissy little examples and use REAL law and order
environments,
like North Korea and South Africa."- Christopher C. Morton
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.culture.african.american/-2TwVOBXpys/jcDAgF3f3-MJ
"The leading cause of death of Black males between the age of 15 and 24
is murder, and can be attributed to the hand gun and other
semi-automatic weaponry. The life expectancy of these young black males
in cities like L.A. and Washington D.C. is less than the soldiers
fighting in Vietnam. How can we as a society use these "Bill of Rights"
as a shield and hide our eyes to the reality that a generation of the
nation's youth are being systematically eliminated? What of the rights
of the hundreds of lives that are needlessly snuffed out every month of
every year?"- George W. Hunter
"The same way we use the 1st and 5th amendments. They protect EVERYBODY.
When you start limiting them, you ENDANGER everybody. The REAL question is
how
we can make ourselves safer by destroying the rights of non-criminals?"-
Christopher C. Morton
"While its true that a major root to these problems is the drug issue.
We must deal with this issue, but we must also cure the immediate
problem. The problem is the availability of guns. It is irrelevent
where the weapons are obtained. The relevent matter is that the guns
are available and they are available to anyone who wants them. "- George W.
Hunter
" And they will CONTINUE to be available. There's NOTHING you can do about
it.
At most you can severely limit the rights of ALL people, and not just
regarding guns. You can no more uninvent guns than you can uninvent fire.
People
make submachineguns in PRISON. Along with banning the 1st, 2nd, and 5th
amendments will you also ban machinetools and seemless aluminum tubing?"-
Christopher
C. Morton
" Lets take a lead form Canada, from Sweeden, from England. These
countries have outlawed the handgun. And an amazing thing has
happened....They have in essence no murders by handgun! If you combine
the total number of deaths by handgun in all of three of these countries
for the last five years, they do not compare with the number of deaths
in D.C. alone last year. In Canada, we are talking about less than 20
murders by handgun last year!"- George W. Hunter
"Their murder rates are RISING. Of course that's beside the point anyway.
Why not take the lead of South Africa? We could institute a pass law system
and
limit the movements of young Black males. We could make them live in barbed
wire enclosed hostels so that the police could better control their
movements.
Why not follow THAT example? The next thing you know, you'll be telling me
that that would be unconstitutional and WRONG....
Of course if you DID get your way, and you conferred upon Daryl Gates and
Jesse Helms the monopoly on the means of armed force, the above probably
WOULD happen."- Christopher C. Morton
"Lets stop being incredibly stupid and open our eyes to the reality that
we as a nation will have to eliminate these weapons sooner or later, if
we are to save this generation of black males. Lets make it
sooner....don't let another innocent person die a meaningless and
avoidable death."- George W. Hunter
"NOBODY can eliminate them without eliminating the constitution as a whole,
not just the 2nd amendment. Of course the Soviet Union didn't HAVE the 2nd
amendment, and THEY couldn't take everybody's gun away EITHER. If you want
to REALLY do away with all PRIVATELY (read owned by Blacks) owned weapons,
you'd better ditch the pissy little examples and use REAL law and order
environments,
like North Korea and South Africa."- Christopher C. Morton