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Scary movie robots
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Jacques E. Bouchard
2007-08-22 18:04:55 UTC
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Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):


- 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
leather);
- The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
- the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
- most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
- the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
- none of the robots in 'Transformers';

...



jaybee
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2007-08-22 18:21:17 UTC
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On Aug 22, 2:04 pm, "Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> leather);
> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> - none of the robots in 'Transformers';
>
> ...
>
> jaybee



Fun robots:

all of them in "Robots"
Robbie the Robot, Forbidden Planet
Marvin the Paranoid Android (in the book, not the miniseries nor the
movie)
The Lost in Space one, "Danger, Will Robinson!"
Data aka Ol' Green Eyes

Not a robot, but fun anyway

The shrunk-down Raquel Welch in Fantastic Journey

Could go either way:

all the andys in Blade Runner - a far cry from the truly reptilian
ones in Do Androids etc.
wcmartell
2007-08-23 01:29:24 UTC
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> The shrunk-down Raquel Welch in Fantastic Journey

Having seen FANTASTIC VOYAGE many times, the thing I admire most is
how Arthur Kennedy is very thurough when he removes the anti-bodies
(or whatever they were) from Welch's chest area. He really runs his
hands over every nook & cranny looking for ones he may have missed.

But jaybee's point - TRANSFORMER's evil robots were just goofy - is
hard to disagree with.

- Bill
Jeri Jo Thomas
2007-08-23 20:50:16 UTC
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> Fun robots:
>
> all of them in "Robots"
> Robbie the Robot, Forbidden Planet
> Marvin the Paranoid Android (in the book, not the miniseries nor the
> movie)
> The Lost in Space one, "Danger, Will Robinson!"
> Data aka Ol' Green Eyes
>
>
#5, who's alive, is a very fun robot.

Ron Goulart wrote a lot of books/short stories, comedic or otherwise,
about assorted robots/androids way back in the mid to late years of the
last century. Hehheh.
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Jacques E. Bouchard
2007-08-22 18:45:33 UTC
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"Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid> wrote in
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> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';

And of course the drones in 'Robocop 1'.


jaybee
Alan Brooks
2007-08-22 18:50:11 UTC
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"Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
>
> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> leather);
> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> - none of the robots in 'Transformers';

Keanu Reeves in "Lake House".

Oh, okay, I'll take it seriously. Rutger Hauer in "Blade Runner" was pretty
scary-cool. But the one who sticks with me the most from that film is Daryl
Hannah's Pria, the "pleasure model". Now there's a concept for
impressionable teenage boys to contemplate for a few decades...

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Jacques E. Bouchard
2007-08-23 01:44:27 UTC
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Alan Brooks <***@panix.com> wrote in
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> Oh, okay, I'll take it seriously. Rutger Hauer in "Blade Runner" was
> pretty scary-cool. But the one who sticks with me the most from that
> film is Daryl Hannah's Pria, the "pleasure model". Now there's a
> concept for impressionable teenage boys to contemplate for a few
> decades...

Joanna Cassidy as the snake dancer. Hurled me back into puberty.


jaybee
Jeri Jo Thomas
2007-08-23 20:53:12 UTC
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Jacques E. Bouchard
(***@invalid.invalid) stepped to the mic and said...

> Joanna Cassidy as the snake dancer. Hurled me back into puberty.
>
>
I don't know about that part, but she had the world's coolest laugh.
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Mike Bass
2007-08-22 19:08:13 UTC
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"Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
>
> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> leather);
> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> - none of the robots in 'Transformers';
>
> ...
>
>
>
> jaybee
>

Do talking computers count? HAL
Mike Bass
2007-08-22 19:15:17 UTC
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"Mike Bass" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the
>> list):
>>
>>
>> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
>> leather);
>> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
>> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
>> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
>> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
>> - none of the robots in 'Transformers';
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>> jaybee
>>
>
> Do talking computers count? HAL

OK. Before anyone else gets to it: Yes computers count. They're very good
with mathematic equations.
Batman
2007-08-24 14:05:44 UTC
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On Aug 22, 12:15 pm, "Mike Bass" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Mike Bass" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > "Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:fahts7$9m1$***@reader1.panix.com...
> >> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the
> >> list):
>
> >> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> >> leather);
> >> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> >> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> >> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> >> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> >> - none of the robots in 'Transformers';
>
> >> ...
>
> >> jaybee
>
> > Do talking computers count? HAL
>
> OK. Before anyone else gets to it: Yes computers count. They're very good
> with mathematic equations.

Not only do they count, but they can perform basic and complex math as
well....

Not that I'm trying to rewrite you :)

Mike
http://matchesmalone.wordpress.com/
Mike Bass
2007-08-26 02:06:15 UTC
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"Batman" <***@azteca.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> > Do talking computers count? HAL
>>
>> OK. Before anyone else gets to it: Yes computers count. They're very good
>> with mathematic equations.
>
> Not only do they count, but they can perform basic and complex math as
> well....
>
> Not that I'm trying to rewrite you :)
>
> Mike
> http://matchesmalone.wordpress.com/
>

Don't forget video games! Pong rules!
Carl Dershem
2007-08-26 04:43:47 UTC
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"Mike Bass" <***@comcast.net> wrote in
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> "Batman" <***@azteca.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> > Do talking computers count? HAL
>>>
>>> OK. Before anyone else gets to it: Yes computers count. They're very
>>> good with mathematic equations.
>>
>> Not only do they count, but they can perform basic and complex math
>> as well....
>>
>> Not that I'm trying to rewrite you :)
>
> Don't forget video games! Pong rules!

Global Thermonuclear War? Nah - how about a nice game of chess?

cd
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Wordsmith
2007-08-22 20:13:53 UTC
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On Aug 22, 1:08 pm, "Mike Bass" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid> wrote in messagenews:fahts7$9m1$***@reader1.panix.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
> > - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> > leather);
> > - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> > - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> > - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> > - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> > - none of the robots in 'Transformers';
>
> > ...
>
> > jaybee
>
> Do talking computers count? HAL

HAL was the first one I thought of.

W : )
MC
2007-08-22 20:44:27 UTC
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In article <fahts7$9m1$***@reader1.panix.com>,
"Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> leather);
> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> - none of the robots in 'Transformers';

Not strictly a robot, but HAL in 2001

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nmstevens
2007-08-22 23:33:26 UTC
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On Aug 22, 2:04 pm, "Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> leather);
> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> - none of the robots in 'Transformers';
>
> ...
>
> jaybee

If you're talking about scary robots, I've got to go back to my
childhood (as I do more and more often these days).

Tobor the Great -- an experimental robot designed to pilot the first
space ship built, as such things often are, by a scientist down in a
lab in the basement of his house, where his young son can sneak down
and get a look at it. It can be controlled, somehow or other,
telepathically (yeah, man) but you need this kind of booster gadget
that looks like a pen. Then spies get ahold of it and it's bad news
for awhile because Tobor runs fucking amuck.

Speaking of which, Robby the Robot also appears in a sequel called The
Invisible Boy (although he's only invisible for like two seconds)
where they kind of find him in a storage closet and the kid gets him
working -- and meanwhile Dad (also a scientist) is working on this
giant computer who gets all intelligent and hostile and sort of takes
over Robbie and they take the kid hostage and orders Robbie to *tear
his fucking eyes out!!* I'm not kidding. This is fucking family
entertainment. Okay, he doesn't do it. But when you're a little kid
watching this shit, you don't know that.

Then there's Gog -- actually there are two robots, Gog and Magog --
actually real non-humanoid robots in an underground military/
scientific base that's being run by (get this) a giant computer that's
been co-opted by enemy agents that are using the two robots to
sabotage the base. These things have multiple arms, one has a blow
torch, the other a kind of gripper thing that can like crush your
throat.

And how about Colossus of New York -- he starts out nice -- Ross
Martin, gentle scientist, gets run over and let's face it, if your Dad
is a scientist experimenting in robotics and your son gets run over --
what would you do, except transplant your son's brain into the body of
an eight-foot tall, weird ass, cloaked golem-looking robot, who
promptly begins to go completely crazy -- ending in a scene where he
drops by the U.N. and starts to *laser down the delegates in cold
blood!!* with beams from his eyes while standing beneath that sign
about beating swords into plowshares.

Then there's the giant robot in "The Mysterians" that comes tunnelling
out of the side of a mountain. Probably not too impressive to viewers
today, but it certainly impressed the hell out of me when I saw it in
a matinee around forty years ago.

And if you're going to include the war machines from the recent WotWs
then you should certainly include the war machines from the original
George Pal version. The scene when the cylinder first unscrews and the
gleaming snake-like brass neck comes out and blasts the three men is
one of the great scary moment from fifties science fiction and the
Nozaki-designed war machines among the great cool-scary designs.


If you want to go a bit farther afield, how about Talos from Jason and
the Argonauts -- or the gold warriors from Hercules and the Moon Men
that killed people by simply hemming them in and crushing them between
their solid metal bodies.

Oh, and speaking of the giant robots from Sky Captain -- if you're
going to include them, you should go back to the source, which is one
of the original Max Fleischer Superman cartoons from which the design
and even some of the sequence, shot for shot, was lifted without any
credit or acknowledgment of which I am aware.

Here's a link. You can judge for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkElf1KtaBs

NMS
Jacques E. Bouchard
2007-08-23 01:53:41 UTC
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nmstevens <***@msn.com> wrote in
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> If you're talking about scary robots, I've got to go back to my
> childhood (as I do more and more often these days).

All great robots, although I've seen none of these.

But you made me remember the black robot in 'The Black Hole'.


jaybee
trawsars
2007-08-23 02:41:39 UTC
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On Aug 23, 9:53 am, "Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
> nmstevens <***@msn.com> wrote innews:faih46$jef$***@reader1.panix.com:
>
> > If you're talking about scary robots, I've got to go back to my
> > childhood (as I do more and more often these days).
>
> All great robots, although I've seen none of these.
>
> But you made me remember the black robot in 'The Black Hole'.
>
> jaybee

Was just about to mention him myself!

He was red. Name of Maximillian. Big floating motherfucker with a
glowing red bar across the face for eyes. Killed a guy with a spinning
blender blade right to the gut.

A *blender blade*! In a Walt Disney movie! And he didn't just *say* he
was gonna do it, he actually did it! And we saw it!

(Okay, they cheated - no blood, just a lot of sparks, guy gets thrown
back and conveniently falls face-down. But I was like 5 when I saw
it.)
STJensen
2007-08-23 20:00:10 UTC
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Though this is about a very old movie, there are spoilers ahead so...

SPOILER ALERT. If you haven't seen "The Black Hole" put out by
Disney, do not read further.
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On Aug 22, 7:41 pm, trawsars <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 'Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > nmstevens <***@msn.com> wrote:
> > > If you're talking about scary robots, I've got to go back to my
> > > childhood (as I do more and more often these days).

[snip]

> > But you made me remember the black robot in 'The Black Hole'.
>
> Was just about to mention him myself!

Me too!

> He was red.

The humans-enslaved-in-robot-form cyborgs were the ones in black.

> Name of Maximillian. Big floating motherfucker with a
> glowing red bar across the face for eyes. Killed a guy with a spinning
> blender blade right to the gut.
>
> A *blender blade*! In a Walt Disney movie! And he didn't just *say* he
> was gonna do it, he actually did it! And we saw it!

I don't recall that it ever spoke. It just obeyed orders until it
decided ... if memory serves me ... to act on its own.

> (Okay, they cheated - no blood, just a lot of sparks, guy gets thrown
> back and conveniently falls face-down. But I was like 5 when I saw
> it.)

Not only the above but he traps the movie's villain inside of itself
in Hell (this visited when going through the blackhole), which it and
not the villain tower over, if not rule over. Truly a great visual
and one I wouldn't mind having a poster of. And I too was amazed that
it was put out by Disney. I went into the theater thinking it was
going to be some cute science fiction flick and was pleasantly
surprised when it turned out to be anything but ... though they still
had a stupid "cute" robot on the good guys' side but being a Disney
film, that's expected and forgiveable. But Maximillian was awesome.
I have yet to see a robot of such pure evil. Not even Terminator
comes close. A good second, but still a football field length between
them.

Scott
Jeri Jo Thomas
2007-08-23 20:55:12 UTC
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:33:26 +0000 (UTC) nmstevens (***@msn.com)
stepped to the mic and said...

> Oh, and speaking of the giant robots from Sky Captain -- if you're
> going to include them, you should go back to the source, which is one
> of the original Max Fleischer Superman cartoons from which the design
> and even some of the sequence, shot for shot, was lifted without any
> credit or acknowledgment of which I am aware.
>
> Here's a link. You can judge for yourself.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkElf1KtaBs
>
>
Aside from Skycaptain comparisons I have a few problems with this
cartoon:

1. How many civilians did those cops with their tommy-guns hurt, maim,
or outright kill? That was a lot of ricocheting bullets.
2. How much of Metropolis did Supes throw into darkness by ripping up
those power lines?
3. Why wasn't Lois immediately cooked as soon as she was swung out over
that vat of molten steel?

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Batman
2007-08-24 14:20:42 UTC
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On Aug 23, 1:55 pm, Jeri Jo Thomas <***@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:33:26 +0000 (UTC) nmstevens (***@msn.com)
> stepped to the mic and said...
>
> > Oh, and speaking of the giant robots from Sky Captain -- if you're
> > going to include them, you should go back to the source, which is one
> > of the original Max Fleischer Superman cartoons from which the design
> > and even some of the sequence, shot for shot, was lifted without any
> > credit or acknowledgment of which I am aware.
>
> > Here's a link. You can judge for yourself.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkElf1KtaBs
>
> Aside from Skycaptain comparisons I have a few problems with this
> cartoon:
>
> 1. How many civilians did those cops with their tommy-guns hurt, maim,
> or outright kill? That was a lot of ricocheting bullets.
> 2. How much of Metropolis did Supes throw into darkness by ripping up
> those power lines?
> 3. Why wasn't Lois immediately cooked as soon as she was swung out over
> that vat of molten steel?
>
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You're asking for logic in a Superman cartoon? Remember, that's the
universe where glasses are a good disguise, and the batmobile never
gets caught in traffic....

Mike
http://matchesmalone.wordpress.com/
Jeri Jo Thomas
2007-08-24 20:50:42 UTC
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Batman (***@azteca.net)
stepped to the mic and said...

> You're asking for logic in a Superman cartoon? Remember, that's the
> universe where glasses are a good disguise, and the batmobile never
> gets caught in traffic....
>
>
Not logic necessarily, but Clark's glasses are supposed to mute his
fabulous blue eyes is why no one gets 4 when they add it up.
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Batman
2007-08-24 14:11:10 UTC
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On Aug 22, 4:33 pm, nmstevens <***@msn.com> wrote:
<snippage>

> Oh, and speaking of the giant robots from Sky Captain -- if you're
> going to include them, you should go back to the source, which is one
> of the original Max Fleischer Superman cartoons from which the design
> and even some of the sequence, shot for shot, was lifted without any
> credit or acknowledgment of which I am aware.
>
> Here's a link. You can judge for yourself.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkElf1KtaBs
>
> NMS

Didn't need to see the video you linked to, as I did get the
reference :) Although, I didn't realize they had lifted a sequence, as
it's been awhile since I've seen the original Superman cartoon.

Interesting trivia, if you're into that sort of thing, one of the
robots changes numbers in the middle of the fight. The only flaw in an
otherwise fine series....

Mike
http://matchesmalone.wordpress.com/
Carl Dershem
2007-08-23 01:24:26 UTC
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"Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:fahts7$9m1$***@reader1.panix.com:

> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the
> list):
>
>
> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> leather);
> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't
> they?); - none of the robots in 'Transformers';

The robot in "The Black Hole", just because it's scary that *anyone* would
find them adorable.

cd
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Batman
2007-08-24 14:12:19 UTC
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On Aug 22, 6:24 pm, Carl Dershem <***@cox.net> wrote:
> "Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid> wrote innews:fahts7$9m1$***@reader1.panix.com:
>
> > Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the
> > list):
>
> > - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> > leather);
> > - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> > - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> > - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> > - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't
> > they?); - none of the robots in 'Transformers';
>
> The robot in "The Black Hole", just because it's scary that *anyone* would
> find them adorable.
>
> cd
> --
> The difference between immorality and immortality is "T". I like Earl
> Grey.

If you're going to reference bad 70's Sci Fi, you've got to go with
the robot in Saturn 3.

Mike
http://matchesmalone.wordpress.com/
MC
2007-08-24 14:19:13 UTC
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In article <famp03$9po$***@reader1.panix.com>, Batman <***@azteca.net>
wrote:

> If you're going to reference bad 70's Sci Fi, you've got to go with
> the robot in Saturn 3.

Has anybody mentioned Metropolis?

If not, I guess I have.

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Jacques E. Bouchard
2007-08-24 14:40:01 UTC
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MC <***@mapca.inter.net> wrote in news:fampd1$1gg$***@reader1.panix.com:

> Has anybody mentioned Metropolis?
>
> If not, I guess I have.

You're just a sucker for fembots, aren't you?

And I'd like to nominate MWSM's moderator bot. Verrrrry scarrrry....



jaybee
Alan Brooks
2007-08-24 15:58:40 UTC
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"Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> MC <***@mapca.inter.net> wrote in news:fampd1$1gg$***@reader1.panix.com:
>
>> Has anybody mentioned Metropolis?
>>
>> If not, I guess I have.
>
> You're just a sucker for fembots, aren't you?
>
> And I'd like to nominate MWSM's moderator bot. Verrrrry scarrrry....

You mean Stumpy? Stumpy's here to protect you. Stumpy is good to all of
us. Stumpy watches over you in your pod, while you're in cryogenic sleep.
Stumpy always makes the *best* decision. Stumpy thinks HAL was a moron for
not disarming the pod bay doors.

Alan Brooks
---------------------------
A Schmuck with an Underwood

-- Dave's not here.

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Charles Hall
2007-08-23 03:14:44 UTC
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"Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:fahts7$9m1$***@reader1.panix.com...
> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
>
> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> leather);
> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> - none of the robots in 'Transformers';
> jaybee

>>> The Autonomous Mobile Swords in Screamers.

Charlie
Jeri Jo Thomas
2007-08-23 20:51:16 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Charles Hall
(***@allstream.net) stepped to the mic and said...

> >>> The Autonomous Mobile Swords in Screamers.
>
>
I don't think Charles wrote this, but also the flying balls of death in
"Phantoms".
--
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The Peripatetic Samurai Robot
<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
Jacques E. Bouchard
2007-08-24 04:52:27 UTC
Permalink
Jeri Jo Thomas <***@earthlink.net> wrote in news:faks03$j2u$1
@reader1.panix.com:

> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Charles Hall
> (***@allstream.net) stepped to the mic and said...
>
>> >>> The Autonomous Mobile Swords in Screamers.
>>
>>
> I don't think Charles wrote this, but also the flying balls of death in
> "Phantoms".

"Phantasm". Yeah, pretty creepy. But not a robot. The super computer is
already stretching the premise pretty far, but still acceptable because
they can remotely control devices.


jaybee
Paulo Joe Jingy
2007-08-23 03:58:31 UTC
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Jacques E. Bouchard wrote:
> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
>
> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> leather);
> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> - none of the robots in 'Transformers';


That weird girl in "War of the Worlds"

Everybody in "Lost in Translation".

Ben Affleck in anything.

The robot in "The Iron Giant" when it gets mean.
Jeri Jo Thomas
2007-08-23 20:52:15 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Paulo Joe Jingy
(***@usa1776.com) stepped to the mic and said...

> The robot in "The Iron Giant" when it gets mean.
>
>
He was *never* mean, he was just doing his job, AND had a change of
robotic heart at the end.
--
<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
The Peripatetic Samurai Robot
<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
Wordsmith
2007-08-23 04:48:04 UTC
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On Aug 22, 12:04 pm, "Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> leather);
> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> - none of the robots in 'Transformers';
>
> ...
>
> jaybee

Here's another: Colossus in *Colossus: The Forbin Project*.

W : )
Sammyo
2007-08-23 14:42:42 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 23, 12:48 am, Wordsmith <***@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 22, 12:04 pm, "Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
> > - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> > leather);
> > - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> > - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> > - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> > - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> > - none of the robots in 'Transformers';
> Here's another: Colossus in *Colossus: The Forbin Project*.

Gort!

Robin Williams was a robot, and scary in a 'that's just wrong' kind of
way

Cylons

There was an original Star Trek where Kirk was going to be turned into
an android, he was
layed out on one arm of a big cheesy centrifuge with a giant playdough
robot on the other.
Scary? I had to leave the room, it gave me the heebies.
Wordsmith
2007-08-23 19:05:54 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 23, 8:42 am, Sammyo <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 23, 12:48 am, Wordsmith <***@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 22, 12:04 pm, "Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
> > > - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> > > leather);
> > > - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> > > - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> > > - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> > > - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> > > - none of the robots in 'Transformers';
> > Here's another: Colossus in *Colossus: The Forbin Project*.
>
> Gort!
>
> Robin Williams was a robot, and scary in a 'that's just wrong' kind of
> way
>
> Cylons
>
> There was an original Star Trek where Kirk was going to be turned into
> an android, he was
> layed out on one arm of a big cheesy centrifuge with a giant playdough
> robot on the other.
> Scary? I had to leave the room, it gave me the heebies.

Any computer-controlled mechanism which has the power to lock you in
a room, car, mall, office building or whatever against your will, such
as the ones in
*Westworld* and *The Andromeda Strain*, will always creep me out.

W
Hercule Platini
2007-09-05 23:34:07 UTC
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"Wordsmith" <***@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:faj3i4$r9d$***@reader1.panix.com...
> On Aug 22, 12:04 pm, "Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the
>> list):
>>
>> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
>> leather);
>> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
>> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
>> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
>> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
>> - none of the robots in 'Transformers';
>>
>> ...
>>
>> jaybee
>
> Here's another: Colossus in *Colossus: The Forbin Project*.


What about Yul Brynner in Westworld? In fact all those robots were pretty
impressive.



--
Hercule Platini
RonB
2007-09-13 05:16:41 UTC
Permalink
"Hercule Platini" <***@nob.nob> wrote in
news:fbnedf$7l8$***@reader1.panix.com:

> What about Yul Brynner in Westworld? In fact all those robots were
> pretty impressive.

Next to those vicious little bastards in "*batteries not included" they
mere pikers.

--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
Hercule Platini
2007-09-13 22:42:46 UTC
Permalink
"RonB" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fcah3o$2p4$***@reader1.panix.com...
> "Hercule Platini" <***@nob.nob> wrote in
> news:fbnedf$7l8$***@reader1.panix.com:
>
>> What about Yul Brynner in Westworld? In fact all those robots were
>> pretty impressive.
>
> Next to those vicious little bastards in "*batteries not included" they
> mere pikers.


Has anyone mentioned those robot spider things in RUNAWAY yet? On top of a
high building as well.


--
Hercule Platini
Martin B
2007-09-14 18:41:58 UTC
Permalink
The Times of London has rated the 50 best movie robots.

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/article2133609.ece

Martin
Martin B
2007-08-23 18:57:26 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 22, 8:04 pm, "Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>

The wrong trousers in Wallace and Gromit, The Wrong Trousers.

Martin
Alan Brooks
2007-08-23 19:16:50 UTC
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"Martin B" <***@mweb.co.za> wrote:

> On Aug 22, 8:04 pm, "Jacques E. Bouchard" <***@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>>
>
> The wrong trousers in Wallace and Gromit, The Wrong Trousers.

I thought the coin-operated dish-washer on the moon was scarier.

Alan Brooks
---------------------------
A Schmuck with an Underwood

-- And the Oscar for
best humorous use
of a parking brake...

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Jeri Jo Thomas
2007-08-23 20:54:11 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Jacques E. Bouchard
(***@invalid.invalid) stepped to the mic and said...

> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
>
> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> leather);
> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> - none of the robots in 'Transformers';
>
>
"KRONOS, Savager of the Planet", 1957, starring Jeff Morrow and Barbara
Lawrence. Produced/Directed by Kurt Neumann, screenplay by Louis
Goldman, based on the story by Irving Block.

Kronos is a "giant metallic monolith monster" who "slashes across the
countryside, draining the Earth of all its electrical energy and beaming
it into space" (to an orbiting space ship inhabited by a hostile super-
intelligence from beyond the stars),and is "so perfect in design it
absorbs a direct hit by a hydrogen bomb and becomes that much more
powerful".

Saw it as a child, but watched it in recent years (it's on DVD), and
while somewhat corny, that monolith monster is still pretty scary and
thrilling.
--
<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
The Peripatetic Samurai Robot
<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
s***@ihug.co.nz
2007-08-23 22:26:33 UTC
Permalink
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Jacques E. Bouchard
> (***@invalid.invalid) stepped to the mic and said...
>
> > Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):


Twiki from Buck Rogers - "Bidibidibidi... gee, Buck*!"

or Gigantor

and not forgetting Logan's Run. Screw the meanie robot though...
look at Jenny Agutter in her prime.

Paul :-)Nz
MC
2007-08-23 22:49:14 UTC
Permalink
In article <fal1ip$ib8$***@reader1.panix.com>,
"***@ihug.co.nz" <***@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

> Screw the meanie robot though...
> look at Jenny Agutter in her prime.

Indeed. Let's. And she's still a pretty babely MILF.

--

"Anybody can direct. There are only 11 good writers."
-- Mel Brooks
Wordsmith
2007-08-24 00:59:48 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 23, 4:26 pm, "***@ihug.co.nz" <***@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Jacques E. Bouchard
> > (***@invalid.invalid) stepped to the mic and said...
>
> > > Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
> Twiki from Buck Rogers - "Bidibidibidi... gee, Buck*!"
>
> or Gigantor
>
> and not forgetting Logan's Run. Screw the meanie robot though...
> look at Jenny Agutter in her prime.
>
> Paul :-)Nz

Want to see *all* of Jenny in her prime? Watch *Equus*.

W ; )
nmstevens
2007-08-24 04:07:24 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 23, 6:26 pm, "***@ihug.co.nz" <***@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Jacques E. Bouchard
> > (***@invalid.invalid) stepped to the mic and said...
>
> > > Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
> Twiki from Buck Rogers - "Bidibidibidi... gee, Buck*!"
>
> or Gigantor

Gigantor was great for several reasons.

First, it had a great theme song.

Second, Gigantor, for some reason, was controlled by Jimmy Sparks, a
kid who looked to be about ten, who could summon Gigantor with this
thing that looked like a proto-game controller and who would use him
to smash the living crap, not only out of giant monsters and giant bad
guy robots, but also to crush the bad guys' secret bases, killing them
without mercy.

Third, just in case Gigantor wasn't handy, Jimmy Sparks also carried a
gleaming black *automatic* which he would happily yank out and blast
away at the bad guys in pitched gun battles.

Let me tell you, this was one mean-ass fucking ten-year old.

>
> and not forgetting Logan's Run. Screw the meanie robot though...
> look at Jenny Agutter in her prime.

Memorable for one of the truly great -- great because of the true
perfection of its gratuitousness -- nude scenes featuring the
aforementioned Ms. Agutter.

They've been swimming somewhere during their escape and they've come
up (if I recall correctly) into an ice cave and Michael York says
something to the effect of, "We'll freeze wearing these soaking wet
clothes -- better take them off."

Shoot, it made sense to me.

NMS
Wordsmith
2007-08-24 04:14:28 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 23, 10:07 pm, nmstevens <***@msn.com> wrote:
> On Aug 23, 6:26 pm, "***@ihug.co.nz" <***@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Jacques E. Bouchard
> > > (***@invalid.invalid) stepped to the mic and said...
>
> > > > Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
> > Twiki from Buck Rogers - "Bidibidibidi... gee, Buck*!"
>
> > or Gigantor
>
> Gigantor was great for several reasons.
>
> First, it had a great theme song.
>
> Second, Gigantor, for some reason, was controlled by Jimmy Sparks, a
> kid who looked to be about ten, who could summon Gigantor with this
> thing that looked like a proto-game controller and who would use him
> to smash the living crap, not only out of giant monsters and giant bad
> guy robots, but also to crush the bad guys' secret bases, killing them
> without mercy.
>
> Third, just in case Gigantor wasn't handy, Jimmy Sparks also carried a
> gleaming black *automatic* which he would happily yank out and blast
> away at the bad guys in pitched gun battles.
>
> Let me tell you, this was one mean-ass fucking ten-year old.
>
>
>
> > and not forgetting Logan's Run. Screw the meanie robot though...
> > look at Jenny Agutter in her prime.
>
> Memorable for one of the truly great -- great because of the true
> perfection of its gratuitousness -- nude scenes featuring the
> aforementioned Ms. Agutter.
>
> They've been swimming somewhere during their escape and they've come
> up (if I recall correctly) into an ice cave and Michael York says
> something to the effect of, "We'll freeze wearing these soaking wet
> clothes -- better take them off."
>
> Shoot, it made sense to me.
>
> NMS

*Logan's Run* was eye candy. It had no back story, nothing explaining
why this culture was
living in domes and giving its citizens the ax at thirty.

W : )
Jacques E. Bouchard
2007-08-24 04:57:11 UTC
Permalink
Wordsmith <***@rocketmail.com> wrote in
news:fallv3$6i8$***@reader1.panix.com:

> *Logan's Run* was eye candy. It had no back story, nothing explaining
> why this culture was
> living in domes and giving its citizens the ax at thirty.

I disagree. Just look at the cult of youth. I don't find it such a stretch
of the imagination.




jaybee
Blair P. Houghton
2007-08-24 04:58:13 UTC
Permalink
Wordsmith <***@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>*Logan's Run* was eye candy. It had no back story, nothing explaining
>why this culture was
>living in domes and giving its citizens the ax at thirty.

At the time, it was a plausible if not obvious result of
the threats being leveled at humanity from the governments
of the world who were acquiring technologies and chemicals
capable of (a) destroying most of us an (b) entrapping
the rest of us.

And it's got Farrah Fawcett not being a Charlie's Angel.

--Blair
Wordsmith
2007-08-24 18:07:23 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 23, 10:58 pm, "Blair P. Houghton" <***@p.h.easynews.com>
wrote:
> Wordsmith <***@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> >*Logan's Run* was eye candy. It had no back story, nothing explaining
> >why this culture was
> >living in domes and giving its citizens the ax at thirty.
>
> At the time, it was a plausible if not obvious result of
> the threats being leveled at humanity from the governments
> of the world who were acquiring technologies and chemicals
> capable of (a) destroying most of us an (b) entrapping
> the rest of us.

Uh-huh. Then why didn't the script so much as make an allusion to it?
Serious omission in my view.

W : )


> And it's got Farrah Fawcett not being a Charlie's Angel.
>
> --Blair
Jacques E. Bouchard
2007-08-24 18:43:51 UTC
Permalink
Wordsmith <***@rocketmail.com> wrote in news:fan6oq$iou$1
@reader1.panix.com:

> On Aug 23, 10:58 pm, "Blair P. Houghton" <***@p.h.easynews.com>
> wrote:
>> Wordsmith <***@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>> >*Logan's Run* was eye candy. It had no back story, nothing explaining
>> >why this culture was
>> >living in domes and giving its citizens the ax at thirty.
>>
>> At the time, it was a plausible if not obvious result of
>> the threats being leveled at humanity from the governments
>> of the world who were acquiring technologies and chemicals
>> capable of (a) destroying most of us an (b) entrapping
>> the rest of us.
>
> Uh-huh. Then why didn't the script so much as make an allusion to it?
> Serious omission in my view.

Because Blair's analysis is completely off.


jaybee
Batman
2007-08-24 14:26:18 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 23, 9:14 pm, Wordsmith <***@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 23, 10:07 pm, nmstevens <***@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 23, 6:26 pm, "***@ihug.co.nz" <***@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Jacques E. Bouchard
> > > > (***@invalid.invalid) stepped to the mic and said...
>
> > > > > Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
> > > Twiki from Buck Rogers - "Bidibidibidi... gee, Buck*!"
>
> > > or Gigantor
>
> > Gigantor was great for several reasons.
>
> > First, it had a great theme song.
>
> > Second, Gigantor, for some reason, was controlled by Jimmy Sparks, a
> > kid who looked to be about ten, who could summon Gigantor with this
> > thing that looked like a proto-game controller and who would use him
> > to smash the living crap, not only out of giant monsters and giant bad
> > guy robots, but also to crush the bad guys' secret bases, killing them
> > without mercy.
>
> > Third, just in case Gigantor wasn't handy, Jimmy Sparks also carried a
> > gleaming black *automatic* which he would happily yank out and blast
> > away at the bad guys in pitched gun battles.
>
> > Let me tell you, this was one mean-ass fucking ten-year old.
>
> > > and not forgetting Logan's Run. Screw the meanie robot though...
> > > look at Jenny Agutter in her prime.
>
> > Memorable for one of the truly great -- great because of the true
> > perfection of its gratuitousness -- nude scenes featuring the
> > aforementioned Ms. Agutter.
>
> > They've been swimming somewhere during their escape and they've come
> > up (if I recall correctly) into an ice cave and Michael York says
> > something to the effect of, "We'll freeze wearing these soaking wet
> > clothes -- better take them off."
>
> > Shoot, it made sense to me.
>
> > NMS
>
> *Logan's Run* was eye candy. It had no back story, nothing explaining
> why this culture was
> living in domes and giving its citizens the ax at thirty.
>
> W : )

I believe that at the beginning of the film, there's a caption roll a
la Star Wars, that explains the back story, which boiled downto the
usual, overpopulation, nuclear war, average age of the population
getting younger, etc. Since the domed city only held x amount of
people, they had to deal with it some how :)

Mike
http://matchesmalone.wordpress.com/
Wordsmith
2007-08-24 18:15:20 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 24, 8:26 am, Batman <***@azteca.net> wrote:
> On Aug 23, 9:14 pm, Wordsmith <***@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 23, 10:07 pm, nmstevens <***@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 23, 6:26 pm, "***@ihug.co.nz" <***@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Jacques E. Bouchard
> > > > > (***@invalid.invalid) stepped to the mic and said...
>
> > > > > > Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
> > > > Twiki from Buck Rogers - "Bidibidibidi... gee, Buck*!"
>
> > > > or Gigantor
>
> > > Gigantor was great for several reasons.
>
> > > First, it had a great theme song.
>
> > > Second, Gigantor, for some reason, was controlled by Jimmy Sparks, a
> > > kid who looked to be about ten, who could summon Gigantor with this
> > > thing that looked like a proto-game controller and who would use him
> > > to smash the living crap, not only out of giant monsters and giant bad
> > > guy robots, but also to crush the bad guys' secret bases, killing them
> > > without mercy.
>
> > > Third, just in case Gigantor wasn't handy, Jimmy Sparks also carried a
> > > gleaming black *automatic* which he would happily yank out and blast
> > > away at the bad guys in pitched gun battles.
>
> > > Let me tell you, this was one mean-ass fucking ten-year old.
>
> > > > and not forgetting Logan's Run. Screw the meanie robot though...
> > > > look at Jenny Agutter in her prime.
>
> > > Memorable for one of the truly great -- great because of the true
> > > perfection of its gratuitousness -- nude scenes featuring the
> > > aforementioned Ms. Agutter.
>
> > > They've been swimming somewhere during their escape and they've come
> > > up (if I recall correctly) into an ice cave and Michael York says
> > > something to the effect of, "We'll freeze wearing these soaking wet
> > > clothes -- better take them off."
>
> > > Shoot, it made sense to me.
>
> > > NMS
>
> > *Logan's Run* was eye candy. It had no back story, nothing explaining
> > why this culture was
> > living in domes and giving its citizens the ax at thirty.
>
> > W : )
>
> I believe that at the beginning of the film, there's a caption roll a
> la Star Wars, that explains the back story, which boiled downto the
> usual, overpopulation, nuclear war, average age of the population
> getting younger, etc. Since the domed city only held x amount of
> people, they had to deal with it some how :)

There was? I don't recall. Could be. *shrug*

W : )
Jacques E. Bouchard
2007-08-24 04:56:11 UTC
Permalink
nmstevens <***@msn.com> wrote in
news:fallhs$pla$***@reader1.panix.com:

> Memorable for one of the truly great -- great because of the true
> perfection of its gratuitousness -- nude scenes featuring the
> aforementioned Ms. Agutter.
>
> They've been swimming somewhere during their escape and they've come
> up (if I recall correctly) into an ice cave and Michael York says
> something to the effect of, "We'll freeze wearing these soaking wet
> clothes -- better take them off."
>
> Shoot, it made sense to me.

Yup. Disbelief completely suspended.


jaybee
Jacques E. Bouchard
2007-08-24 04:54:45 UTC
Permalink
"***@ihug.co.nz" <***@ihug.co.nz> wrote in
news:fal1ip$ib8$***@reader1.panix.com:

>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Jacques E. Bouchard
>> (***@invalid.invalid) stepped to the mic and said...
>>
>> > Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the
>> > list):
>
>
> Twiki from Buck Rogers - "Bidibidibidi... gee, Buck*!"
>
> or Gigantor
>
> and not forgetting Logan's Run. Screw the meanie robot though...
> look at Jenny Agutter in her prime.

Also good for some gandering is Farrah Fawcett in "Saturn 3", which had a
somewhat creepy robot.


jaybee
Batman
2007-08-24 14:22:15 UTC
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On Aug 23, 3:26 pm, "***@ihug.co.nz" <***@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Jacques E. Bouchard
> > (***@invalid.invalid) stepped to the mic and said...
>
> > > Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
> Twiki from Buck Rogers - "Bidibidibidi... gee, Buck*!"
>
> or Gigantor
>
> and not forgetting Logan's Run. Screw the meanie robot though...
> look at Jenny Agutter in her prime.
>
> Paul :-)Nz

Box, voiced by Roscoe Lee Browne. Excellent choice :)

"There is no sanctuary!!!"

Mike
http://matchesmalone.wordpress.com/
Paulo Joe Jingy
2007-08-25 20:48:12 UTC
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Jacques E. Bouchard wrote:
> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):
>
>
> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> leather);
> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
> - the bodyguard robot in 'Judge Dredd';
> - most of the robots in 'Sky Captain';
> - the tripods in 'War od the Worlds' (they kinda of count, don't they?);
> - none of the robots in 'Transformers';


Can I be serious for a moment?

As scary as Scarlett Johansson and Bill Murray were in "Lost in
Translation" and the fact that they were at least twice as depressing as
Marvin in the "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy", they weren't the
scariest movie robots.

I've been reluctant to bring up the scariest movie robot of all time,
because watching it caused me serious trauma, which I still haven't
completely overcome. So, if you have weak heart *DO NOT* click on the
link below.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gaRV559qtxU

You've been warned.
Avoid normal situations.
2007-09-01 00:06:40 UTC
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Jacques E. Bouchard <***@invalid.invalid> wrote:

[..]

> Scary movie robots, in no particular order (feel free to add to the list):

> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> leather);
> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';

Um... actually, the terminators played by Arnie and Robocop 2 were cyborgs.
Quite honestly, I am astonished that I'm the first person to point this out.
:-)

If you want honest-to-god robots, well, we can go for the bot gunslinger
played by Yul Brynner in _Westworld_.

--
alt.flame Special Forces
"There is not a single crowned head in Europe whose talents or merits would
entitle him to be elected a vestryman by the people of any parish in America."
-- Thomas Jefferson
Jacques E. Bouchard
2007-09-01 03:33:59 UTC
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"Avoid normal situations."
<***@eskimo.com> wrote in
news:fbaaeg$5pl$***@reader1.panix.com:

> Jacques E. Bouchard <***@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
>> leather);
>> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
>
> Um... actually, the terminators played by Arnie and Robocop 2 were
> cyborgs.

Semantics. Strip the Terminator down and you've got a shiny, metal killing
machine. And I said the *psycho* robot in Robocop 2, not Peter Weller.


jaybee
Avoid normal situations.
2007-09-01 05:27:14 UTC
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Jacques E. Bouchard <***@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> "Avoid normal situations."
> <***@eskimo.com> wrote in
> news:fbaaeg$5pl$***@reader1.panix.com:

>>> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
>>> leather);
>>> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
>>
>> Um... actually, the terminators played by Arnie and Robocop 2 were
>> cyborgs.

> Semantics.

As writers, we're obligated to use words with precision. :-)

> Strip the Terminator down and you've got a shiny, metal killing
> machine. And I said the *psycho* robot in Robocop 2, not Peter Weller.

That's what I meant as well: the thing with the human brain and the 20mm
cannon who gives us the sf version of the climax of _The Wild Bunch_ at the
end. (The brain lacks lungs and lips, of course, but every time I see that
scene I always imagine him nonchalantly whistling away -- thinking that he's
doing it, anyway -- while blowing people away by the dozen.) Not terribly
surprising that Walon Green is one of the writers, is it?

--
alt.flame Special Forces
"There is not a single crowned head in Europe whose talents or merits would
entitle him to be elected a vestryman by the people of any parish in America."
-- Thomas Jefferson
Jacques E. Bouchard
2007-09-01 06:17:08 UTC
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"Avoid normal situations."
<***@eskimo.com> wrote in
news:fbat7i$5g$***@reader1.panix.com:

> Jacques E. Bouchard <***@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> "Avoid normal situations."
>> <***@eskimo.com> wrote in
>> news:fbaaeg$5pl$***@reader1.panix.com:
>
>>>> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
>>>> leather);
>>>> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
>>>
>>> Um... actually, the terminators played by Arnie and Robocop 2 were
>>> cyborgs.
>
>> Semantics.
>
> As writers, we're obligated to use words with precision. :-)

Well then lets. Neither fits the definition of a cyborg.

They're both plenty scary, though.


jaybee
Avoid normal situations.
2007-09-01 14:17:54 UTC
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Jacques E. Bouchard <***@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> "Avoid normal situations."
> <***@eskimo.com> wrote in
> news:fbat7i$5g$***@reader1.panix.com:

[..]

>>>>> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
>>>>> leather);
>>>>> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
>>>>
>>>> Um... actually, the terminators played by Arnie and Robocop 2 were
>>>> cyborgs.
>>
>>> Semantics.
>>
>> As writers, we're obligated to use words with precision. :-)

> Well then lets. Neither fits the definition of a cyborg.

Um.... yes, actually, they do.

http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=cyborg

"A human being whose body has been taken over in whole or in part by
electromechanical devices".

The CSM-101s are more machine than man... however, as Reese mentions in his
interrogation by 1984 police in the first Terminator movie, all that flesh
surrounding the bot parts is alive. Presumably they eat in some way to
maintain that tissue, although heaven knows how or what. The final
instantiation of Robocop 2, evidently, just has the human brain, and
maybe a smattering of tissue behind all that armor and weaponry, but that's
enough to qualify it for the "org" part of the word.

--
alt.flame Special Forces
"There is not a single crowned head in Europe whose talents or merits would
entitle him to be elected a vestryman by the people of any parish in America."
-- Thomas Jefferson
Jacques E. Bouchard
2007-09-01 15:16:35 UTC
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"Avoid normal situations."
<***@eskimo.com> wrote in
news:fbbsai$slh$***@reader1.panix.com:

> "A human being whose body has been taken over in whole or in part by
> electromechanical devices".
>
> The CSM-101s are more machine than man... however, as Reese mentions
> in his
> interrogation by 1984 police in the first Terminator movie, all that
> flesh surrounding the bot parts is alive. Presumably they eat in some
> way to maintain that tissue, although heaven knows how or what.

The fleshy part is only an envelope. There is no symbiosis between the
mechanical and the biological. It was never human, any more than corn
dogs were ever corn bread...

> The
> final instantiation of Robocop 2, evidently, just has the human brain,
> and maybe a smattering of tissue behind all that armor and weaponry,
> but that's enough to qualify it for the "org" part of the word.

Welllll... maybe. But a cybog also fits the definition of robot, so I'm
sticking with my original list, which was intended to be fun.

Do you want to add to it in that spirit?


jaybee
nmstevens
2007-09-01 16:31:14 UTC
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On Sep 1, 10:17 am, "Avoid normal situations."
<***@eskimo.com> wrote:
> Jacques E. Bouchard <***@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > "Avoid normal situations."
> > <***@eskimo.com> wrote in
> >news:fbat7i$5g$***@reader1.panix.com:
>
> [..]
>
> >>>>> - 'The Terminator' (all of them, except for Kristanna Loken in red
> >>>>> leather);
> >>>>> - The psycho robot in 'Robocop 2';
>
> >>>> Um... actually, the terminators played by Arnie and Robocop 2 were
> >>>> cyborgs.
>
> >>> Semantics.
>
> >> As writers, we're obligated to use words with precision. :-)
> > Well then lets. Neither fits the definition of a cyborg.
>
> Um.... yes, actually, they do.
>
> http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=cyborg
>
> "A human being whose body has been taken over in whole or in part by
> electromechanical devices".
>
> The CSM-101s are more machine than man... however, as Reese mentions in his
> interrogation by 1984 police in the first Terminator movie, all that flesh
> surrounding the bot parts is alive. Presumably they eat in some way to
> maintain that tissue, although heaven knows how or what. The final
> instantiation of Robocop 2, evidently, just has the human brain, and
> maybe a smattering of tissue behind all that armor and weaponry, but that's
> enough to qualify it for the "org" part of the word.


Well, the whole conceit, at least of the original Terminator, was that
only living creatures could make the transition back through time.
That's why you had to come back naked. That's why you couldn't come
back with futuristic weapons.

So presumably Reese, if he had had a pacemaker in his chest, would be
able to come back, and the pacemaker would come back with him, as part
of his living body. In the same way, whatever bizarre criteria the
time machine applies in distinguishing living organism from non-living
things, considers the Terminator to be a living organism with machine
parts included.

But that, of course, raises the much more interesting question -- of
just what the hell the "T-1000" was -- that metal goop that clearly
didn't have anything organic -- at least nothing recognizably organic
about it, and yet must have been judged by the time machine to be
alive. Oh, that's right. It was "living metal."

Yeah. That's it. Living metal.

It turns out that the time machine actually lets through living
organisms plus cool-ass-looking special effects whether they're alive
or not.

And speaking of Robocop -- I think that the ED-2000 from the original
deserves to be mentioned. Admittedly, it was a bit clunky, never quite
mastered getting up and down stairs, and they never did quite get the
bugs out of it, but it was pretty cool nevertheless.

And if we're still adding robots to the list, I'd like to add a
particular robot spider.

No, not that robot spider, the one from Wild, Wild, West.

I'm talking about the really cool robot spider from that episode of
Jonny Quest, the one that starts out as a featureless black sphere and
then a rod sprouts out from the top and then unfolds once, twice,
three times to form the legs. That was really freaking cool.

NMS
Avoid normal situations.
2007-09-02 01:39:45 UTC
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nmstevens <***@msn.com> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 10:17 am, "Avoid normal situations."
> <***@eskimo.com> wrote:

[..]

> Well, the whole conceit, at least of the original Terminator, was that
> only living creatures could make the transition back through time.
> That's why you had to come back naked. That's why you couldn't come
> back with futuristic weapons.

> So presumably Reese, if he had had a pacemaker in his chest, would be
> able to come back, and the pacemaker would come back with him, as part
> of his living body. In the same way, whatever bizarre criteria the
> time machine applies in distinguishing living organism from non-living
> things, considers the Terminator to be a living organism with machine
> parts included.

> But that, of course, raises the much more interesting question -- of
> just what the hell the "T-1000" was -- that metal goop that clearly
> didn't have anything organic -- at least nothing recognizably organic
> about it, and yet must have been judged by the time machine to be
> alive. Oh, that's right. It was "living metal."

> Yeah. That's it. Living metal.

> It turns out that the time machine actually lets through living
> organisms plus cool-ass-looking special effects whether they're alive
> or not.

The usage of George Thorogood's "Bad to the Bone" was just a wee bit of a
hint that this movie is slightly less serious than its predecessor. :-)

If you want to really get serious/pedantic about it, what really hoses the
Terminator movies, far more so than anything about how the T-1000 is able to
fake out the temporal displacement device, is the sheer illogic of time
travel itself... but I bet this discussion has already occurred here a dozen
times, so it is a safe assumption you already know the details.

--
alt.flame Special Forces
"There is not a single crowned head in Europe whose talents or merits would
entitle him to be elected a vestryman by the people of any parish in America."
-- Thomas Jefferson
Steven J. Weller
2007-09-02 23:49:47 UTC
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On Sep 1, 6:39 pm, "Avoid normal situations."
<***@eskimo.com> wrote:
> nmstevens <***@msn.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 1, 10:17 am, "Avoid normal situations."
>
> > Well, the whole conceit, at least of the original Terminator, was that
> > only living creatures could make the transition back through time.
> > That's why you had to come back naked. That's why you couldn't come
> > back with futuristic weapons.
> > So presumably Reese, if he had had a pacemaker in his chest, would be
> > able to come back, and the pacemaker would come back with him, as part
> > of his living body. In the same way, whatever bizarre criteria the
> > time machine applies in distinguishing living organism from non-living
> > things, considers the Terminator to be a living organism with machine
> > parts included.
> > But that, of course, raises the much more interesting question -- of
> > just what the hell the "T-1000" was -- that metal goop that clearly
> > didn't have anything organic -- at least nothing recognizably organic
> > about it, and yet must have been judged by the time machine to be
> > alive. Oh, that's right. It was "living metal."
> > Yeah. That's it. Living metal.
> > It turns out that the time machine actually lets through living
> > organisms plus cool-ass-looking special effects whether they're alive
> > or not.
>
> The usage of George Thorogood's "Bad to the Bone" was just a wee bit of a
> hint that this movie is slightly less serious than its predecessor. :-)
>
> If you want to really get serious/pedantic about it, what really hoses the
> Terminator movies, far more so than anything about how the T-1000 is able to
> fake out the temporal displacement device, is the sheer illogic of time
> travel itself... but I bet this discussion has already occurred here a dozen
> times, so it is a safe assumption you already know the details.

Supposedly, the time travel thing-a-ma-bob responded to the 'field'
generated by a living organism, which made the original Terminator
suitable for travel - it was originally designed to fool guard dogs,
which could detect its predecesors by their rubber skin. Reese could
have brought back pretty much any piece of technology he could have
fit through his rectum, but - given the world he lived in as shown in
the nightmare sequences - it's at least unlikely he could have had
(say) a phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range surgically implanted,
with the idea that he'd be able to get it back out again and be in
physical shape to make use of it, once he got back to the 20th
century.

As for the T-1000, sometime between the time (sic) that the machines
sent Arnie back, and nothing much changed, and the time that they sent
Mulder's replacement, they had figured out how to fool the field
sensor thingie they had originally built into the machine in the first
place. Why a supercomputer controlling a race of intelligent machines
would spend the time and resources to build a time machine that could
really be best used by their sworn enemies, rather than (say) by
themsleves, is a question best left for others.

But yeah, the whole time travel thing is silly. The difference
between hard SF and soft SF seems to be that in soft SF/fantasy, you
can do pretty much anything you want and it's easy, whereas in hard SF
you can do pretty much anything you want buy it's difficult and
painful and will probably leave you covered in slime.
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