Post by Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)...
Post by clavigerThe perch from which Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy
above Dealey Plaza. Hulton Archia via Getty Images
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/59f1e4e5bcf93d23008b4890-1136-568.png
Study this photo carefully. If the boxes are exactly in the same
place there is a problem with LHO making the last shot straight
down the centerline of the Limousine.
I studied it.
Are you *sure* that's a photo from the sniper's nest?
It doesn't look like it to me. Let me explain.
I think you are wrong about your analysis of the photo linked in the first
post. It is indeed from the so-called sniper's nest.
Post by Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/hulls.jpg
https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0124b.htm
Note how close the second window is to the sniper's nest window (the boxes
at the sniper's nest window are partially shown at the bottom-left of the
"hulls.jpg" above. The window you can see is the window next to the
sniper's nest window.
Here's an image of the TSBD from outside the building.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ad/f2/9b/adf29b8dd4e97d0f73cb1159303dc20f.jpg
Note again how little space separates the sniper's window from the
immediate next set of windows. They are in groups of two windows running
across the floor.
If we number the windows from right to left, the sniper's nest window, the
sniper's nest window would be #1, and the last window visible in the image
above from outside the building would be #8.
The image you post shows too much space between the supposed sniper's nest
and the next set of windows to the right.
The photo does not show "too much space" between the two windows. What you
are calling "space" is not space at all, but rather the part of the trim
or support that runs perpendicular to the face of the building between the
windows and is visible in the "hulls" photo you link. It rests on the
bricks below and inside the window. This also leads to a different
confusion on your part regarding the window dividers. (See below.)
Post by Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)Another difference: note on the bricks in the image you post at the next
window is a small open box. But that box is not visible in the crime scene
photo.
We have no idea when the questioned photo was taken. There is no claim it
was on Nov 22. That box could have been put there by DPD moving things
around. The "gun rest" boxes are surely not in the same configuration as
in your hulls photos.
Post by Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)Another difference: The window and window trim is painted a dark color in
the official photos taken on the day of the assassination. The "sniper's
nest" window and the window trim in your image is a light color, white or
off-white.
This apparent change in color of the trim is likely caused by the use of
flash to take the picture at too close a distance. Note how "washed out"
the box is as well as the shadow it casts away from the camera. The bottom
of the open window also casts a shadow which widens as it gets farther
from the camera. The photo looks as though it was properly exposed for the
window to the right.
Here is another DPD photo taken around the time of the questioned photo:
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth49531/m1/1/
Note it is without flash, and the sun is casting shadows in the opposite
directions from the ones in the "washed out" photo. And as a result,
everything is too dark.
Post by Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)Another difference: ALL the windows in the TSBD are doubled, with a second
set of windows immediately next to the first set. Moreover, each set has
an upper window with a T configuration (four window panes) at the top, and
a T configuration at the bottom (again with four window panes). That's
true for floors one to six. The seventh floor is different, and has
narrower windows, with only one window pane in the top half and one in the
bottom. But even those windows opened at the bottom.
http://darkroom.baltimoresun.com/2013/11/john-f-kennedy-anniversary-a-look-at-images-from-his-lifetime/#11
The caption reads: Dallas police discover a sniper’s nest
constructed from book boxes around a sixth-floor floor window in the Texas
School Book Depository. (Dallas Police Department/Dallas Municipal
Archives/MCT)
Why did you ignore this information, claim the Sun took and altered the
photo, and not search the Archives? (See below.)
Post by Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)You're not looking out the sniper's nest window. Look at the above image
closely, especially the second window over (the one with the small box
immediately below). Contrary to the official sniper's nest photos, this
window doesn't have the T configuration, but only a single window to the
top and a single window to the bottom. Meanwhile, the sniper's nest window
You are correct about the "T configuration" but wrong that it cannot be
explained why the window to the right does not appear to contain that
configuration.
The same perpendicular trim you mistakenly identified as "space" between
the two windows also blocks the left half of the window "with the box
under it," due to the angle of the photo. Only the right half of the
bottom window and its two panes are visible beyond the trim.
The "upright" divider bar seems to be visible just on the right edge of
the trim. It clearly shows the right half of a four pane window.
Post by Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)does have the T configuration visible. There's no two adjacent windows in
the TSBD that look like that, that I can see.
The source of the full image is the Baltimore Sun's website, called "The
Darkroom", which is dedicated (according to the page) to "The Darkroom,
the photography and video blog of The Baltimore Sun, shines a light on
visually captivating stories of our past and present. It showcases the
exciting work of our staff..."
"Exciting work of our staff...". If this is a Baltimore Sun photo, then
some enterprising news photographer working for the Sun set up his camera
elsewhere in the building and took a photo and claimed it was from the
sniper's nest window (and the photo was edited). Or stuck his camera out a
I don't know why the Sun claims it's the work of "their staff" when they
give credit to the DPD and the Dallas Archives as the source and the DPD
negative number is clearly visible on the more inclusive version you link.
Post by Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)window elsewhere in the building and took a photo (not showing any of the
window or trim) and the editor thought it would look better if it appeared
to be taken from inside the building, so he had a little photo alteration
done to make the photo more visually appealing. Thus, the outside view
appears to be close to what would be seen from the sniper's nest, but the
inside view doesn't appear to be from inside the Depository.
Bottom line: It does not appear to be a photo from the sniper's nest
window. It may even be doctored image.
Hank
Finally, inasmuchas the photo description in the fuller copy you linked
says the photo was taken by the DPD and was sourced to the Dallas
Municipal Archives, and even shows the negative number, your first step
should have been to compare the photo residing in the Archives to the
photo in question.
This would have eliminated your suggestion that the Sun altered the photo
in any way. The Archives' holdings are available on line at
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/.
You would have discovered that DPD negative 91-001/320 is found in Box 11,
Folder 31. Then you would have realized that perhaps the scanning of this
photo wasn't done competently. But, the Archives encourages researchers
"use the photographs series through the Portal to Texas History digital
library..." and provides this link:
https://texashistory.unt.edu/explore/collections/JFKDP/
After searching for "1/320," you would have come upon this page:
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth49539/m1/1/?q=1/320
wherein the original photo is available. No shenanigans by the Baltimore
Sun.
Squinty