Post by arahimPost by shankar.dataPost by arahimPost by shankar.dataPost by arahimPost by shankar.dataPost by arahimPost by shankar.dataPost by shankar.dataPost by MohanMinor correction - there was an error in ODIs gross rating
calculation.
Matches Hours Avg Rating Rating-hours
Tests 6 180 0.1* 18
ODIs 31 217 3.4 730
T20Is 12* 48 5.3 255
Total 445 2.2 1003
Matches Hours Avg Rating Rating-hours
IPL 57 228 4.6 1050
CL 23 92 1.0 90
Total 320 3.6 1140
So Domestic Circus had about 70% of the air time compared to Nation
Passion, delivered 70% higher average rating and ended up with more
cumulative eyeball-hours than the latter.
Mohan
1. Only four sessions from 6 Tests had enough rating to make it to the
available records.
2. 12 T20Is include 2 warm-up matches played by India.
1) TV exec,
2) BCCI,
3) (CA, ECB, CSA),
4) Indian international player,
5) Indian domestic dada,
6) Non-Indian international player,
7) Non-Indian domestic bully,
8) Retired international cricketer,
9) RSC expert
etc.......
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add IPL owner to the list.
Get the limit on number of international players removed.
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How does that help the IPL owner? I am assuming you think an IPL owner
will act in his/her self interest and not do it to benefit any one
else.
The same way that it now helps them to sign up international players.
Why not completely remove international players from IPL? From the
perspective of business: The best talent is the best talent without
restriction.
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Obviously, IPL biz dev guys want to sell the on two dimensions.
Marquee talent is one, local connection is another. Empirically,
champions league ratings seem to indicate that the viewing public seem
to want a local connection and marquee talent. Not just one or the
other.
The contention could be valid but the argument you present for it is
not sufficient. CL was even more limited in presenting the top
international talent than the IPL.
Actually, you can make the inference. The non-IPL teams had overall
better talent than IPL teams, if you were to go by the results. That I
I don't know about that but the IPL certainly had the bigger
international names overall.
Post by shankar.datado not think resulted in them attracting larger viewership. I somehow
doubt that NSW Blues team as is were just called Trivandrum Cyclones
would change the viewership by that much.
Post by arahimIf we are to accept your reasoning then there is no reason for having
a limit on the international players. The IPL owners will get the
locals for this "local connection" advantage by themselves. Putting
that restriction is basically an acceptance of the stance that if
there was no limit the IPL owners would buy more international talent.
Same as in the counties. Just look at the whole Kolpaks issue.
I do think that not having a limit would change team compositions only
on the margins. You seem to think otherwise. The limit exists I think
for political viability. If you didn't have a limit, the whole
enterprise may be in political jeopardy. Not a prudent business
decision, if you are an IPL chairman. They most probably didn't want
neophyte owners making bumbling blunders and hence the limit.
I like the argument somesaults going on in this thread:) Now we are on
to political viability. First you claim it would change composition on
the margins only which then makes the limit redundant. Then you argue
that the owners are neophites who would presumably change the
composition drastically hence requiring the curbs.
It is your prerogative to characterize the argument as a somersault. I
am agreeing with you that the limit is redundant. Even so the limit I
think is unlikely to be lifted. Your contention if not explicitly,
certainly implicitly is that the best team irrespective of local
affinity is in the best interest of an IPL owner and that an IPL owner
should think that. I obviously disagree. I disagree because IPL will
be run out of town if they did not have some thing that is manifestly
having a local connection. IPL owners may agree with you in that it is
best to lift the limit. I disagree because of the political angle.
Perhaps you would rather I not mention that.
If you read a little carefully, you would have noticed that I am not
saying that they are neophytes. I am saying that the chairman may not
trust the owners to do the right thing by the league, them not being
experienced in the business of cricket, the political implications of
their choices and this being a new venture. Owners may be perfect
rational agents, and still the chairman may wonder about their
capacity to make the right calls all the time. I do not have a way to
divine this about their thinking any more than you do. In some time if
every one agrees with you, they will relax the rule. Somehow I don't
see that happening. I don't see it happening because of the politics,
not because IPL and its owners are interested in making significantly
less money by fielding a less marketable product. Why do you think
they have the limit?
Post by arahimWas the icon player strategy part of this grand IPL Chairman plan? The
limit comes from the BCCI. The same institution that had the foresight
to start IPL after ICL started it.
You some how seem to think that I think BCCI is perfect. Let me
disabuse you of that notion. Even if I thought they were borderline
good, I certainly would not expect them to get everything right in
version 1.0. I am sure they will tweak things forever. I am sure they
had icon player in the interest of IPL and the teams, because they
thought they will be able to sell the product better. If they have
evidence to the contrary, I am sure they will make changes.
Post by arahimPost by shankar.dataThe power is now concentrated with the IPL chairman. That most
probably will change in a few years, where owners will gain greater
control in the running of the game.
In that case ... Well you asked what they should do and I told you
what I think they should.
I am trying to see, in whose interest are you recommending this to
them? You as a viewer who wants to see the best cricket or you as an
IPL owner interested in stakeholder value.
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