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“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle
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Andrew W
2020-05-19 12:45:23 UTC
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“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=147099

Canadian neurologist Andrew Moulden, PhD. MD 1964-2013 explains it all here
in 20 six-minute segments. He was told to play ball or have the ball taken
away.)
Often a comet will streak across the night sky and we will miss it. So our
true champions are murdered and flushed down the memory hole while
charlatans and traitors get Nobel Prizes.
The healthcare industry cannot leave sickness to chance. It is a bigger
business than war.
by Henry Makow PhD — from April 2, 2019
Andrew Moulden should have been awarded a Nobel Prize for showing how the
“healthcare industry” is poisoning the general population with vaccines. He
showed how vaccines were responsible for causing “microscopic strokes” by
limiting the flow of oxygen in the bloodstream reaching capillaries.

In his 2009 interview on vactruth.com, Moulden stated: “I have now
conclusively shown that ALL vaccines, from infancy to geriatric, are causing
the exact same brain damages irrespective of what disease or disorder comes
out. The damages are specific to end vascular “mini-strokes” that are
beneath the resolution of our neuro-imaging, but measurable in a
before/after vaccination protocol. They are also directly measurable in real
time – however, this involves techniques and technology I have not disclosed
to the public as yet.”
Dr Moulden
AND “The evidence is now self-evident. All you have to do now is receive the
education you need to appreciate and see what is before your very eyes –
layperson and Doctor.”
AND “It is no longer an opinion as I now have conclusive evidence to show
that ALL vaccines are causing the exact same damages for us all in the exact
same manner that wild poliovirus caused paralysis, respiratory failure,
death,

For revealing the truth and trying to save innocent millions from sickness
and death, which enrich the health care industry and their accomplices in
government and media, Moulden, left, died prematurely in 2013 supposedly of
suicide. They claimed he was bipolar but the videos show a very competent
and credible young neurologist. He joins the scores of holistic doctors
reported murdered in recent years.

A colleague of Dr. Moulden who wishes to remain anonymous reported to Health
Impact News that he/she had contact with him two weeks before he died in
2013. Dr. Moulden told our source and a small number of trusted colleagues
in October of 2013 that he was about to break his silence and would be
releasing new information which could have destroyed the vaccine model of
disease management, destroyed a major source of funding for the
pharmaceutical industry, and at the same time seriously damaged the
foundation of the germ theory of disease. He was ready to come back. Even
though he had been silenced, he had never stopped his research.

Then, two weeks later, Dr. Moulden suddenly 'suicided'.

more https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/05/Andrew-Moulton-MD.html



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The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.

A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because if
it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.

http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
Patrick B
2020-05-19 12:56:37 UTC
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“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle
Canadian neurologist Andrew Moulden, PhD. MD 1964-2013 explains it all here
in 20 six-minute segments. He was told to play ball or have the ball taken
away.)
Why do you post silly crap that no one cares about?
And, if you have something to say, get to it right away.
Andrew W
2020-05-19 13:20:54 UTC
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Post by Patrick B
Post by Andrew W
“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle
Canadian neurologist Andrew Moulden, PhD. MD 1964-2013 explains it all here
in 20 six-minute segments. He was told to play ball or have the ball taken
away.)
Why do you post silly crap that no one cares about?
And, if you have something to say, get to it right away.
You don't understand. This report is proof of high corporate corruption
where they murder you if you uncover the truth about things.
--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/

The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.

A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because if
it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.

http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
Patrick B
2020-05-19 15:56:46 UTC
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 23:20:54 +1000, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Patrick B
“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle
Canadian neurologist Andrew Moulden, PhD. MD 1964-2013 explains it all here
in 20 six-minute segments. He was told to play ball or have the ball taken
away.)
Why do you post silly crap that no one cares about?
And, if you have something to say, get to it right away.
You don't understand. This report is proof of high corporate corruption
where they murder you if you uncover the truth about things.
So what else is new?
Andrew W
2020-05-19 22:37:14 UTC
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Post by Patrick B
On Tue, 19 May 2020 23:20:54 +1000, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Patrick B
Post by Andrew W
“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle
Canadian neurologist Andrew Moulden, PhD. MD 1964-2013 explains it all here
in 20 six-minute segments. He was told to play ball or have the ball taken
away.)
Why do you post silly crap that no one cares about?
And, if you have something to say, get to it right away.
You don't understand. This report is proof of high corporate corruption
where they murder you if you uncover the truth about things.
So what else is new?
You don't do anything to at least raise awareness about it so we can all
stop it. And neither does your god.
--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/

The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.

A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because if
it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.

http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
Patrick B
2020-05-20 10:42:06 UTC
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On Wed, 20 May 2020 08:37:14 +1000, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Patrick B
On Tue, 19 May 2020 23:20:54 +1000, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Patrick B
“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle
Canadian neurologist Andrew Moulden, PhD. MD 1964-2013 explains it all here
in 20 six-minute segments. He was told to play ball or have the ball taken
away.)
Why do you post silly crap that no one cares about?
And, if you have something to say, get to it right away.
You don't understand. This report is proof of high corporate corruption
where they murder you if you uncover the truth about things.
So what else is new?
You don't do anything to at least raise awareness about it so we can all
stop it. And neither does your god.
Awareness, huh?
Those who read newsgroups are already aware.
You need to get a soapbox, and tell the stupid masses who don't even
remember the name of their own vice president.
Like they will care.
Whisper
2020-05-20 10:48:02 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Post by Patrick B
Post by Andrew W
“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle
Canadian neurologist Andrew Moulden, PhD. MD 1964-2013 explains it all here
in 20 six-minute segments. He was told to play ball or have the ball taken
away.)
Why do you post silly crap that no one cares about?
And, if you have something to say, get to it right away.
You don't understand. This report is proof of high corporate corruption
where they murder you if you uncover the truth about things.
lol what a nutter.

That dr doesn't look too bright to me. Looks like he's stoned &
unhinged. Not surprised at all he'd kill himself.
Daniel60
2020-05-20 09:46:25 UTC
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Post by Patrick B
Post by Andrew W
“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle
Canadian neurologist Andrew Moulden, PhD. MD 1964-2013 explains it all here
in 20 six-minute segments. He was told to play ball or have the ball taken
away.)
Why do you post silly crap that no one cares about?
And, if you have something to say, get to it right away.
Why do you, Andrew, post silly crap that no one cares about ... in
newsgroups supposedly dedicated to Astronomical, Religion and/or
Political discussion??
--
Daniel
teslaStinker
2020-05-30 03:17:33 UTC
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Post by Daniel60
Post by Patrick B
Post by Andrew W
“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle
Canadian neurologist Andrew Moulden, PhD. MD 1964-2013 explains it all here
in 20 six-minute segments. He was told to play ball or have the ball taken
away.)
Why do you post silly crap that no one cares about?
And, if you have something to say, get to it right away.
Why do you, Andrew, post silly crap that no one cares about ... in
newsgroups supposedly dedicated to Astronomical, Religion and/or
Political discussion??
Its much worse than that. Bill Gates is a culprit to the whole
event, buying the CDC, setting them up to lie. Owning the patents to
the vaccines. Thats right, Mr Microsoft himself. They should of
already arrested him for murder 1 on several counts. Treating people for
a virus that is not even in them. But do you think, for one moment, any
of them are christians the USA government? Ha. I would say it has
plenty to do with astronomy. Since he intends to put his robot on that
spaceship that is leaving, in 2004. With a star trek symbol on it. Yup,
a million dollar robot that sits inside the human body, injected into
the body with a needle. Its destination, is mars. But according to the
book of Deuteronomy, they will be going to polaris one day, when the end
of the world really comes. AND God, never lies. Maybe you should
read the real Bible, instead of your slop up king james version. He was
at it, in 2009, so just now, is nothing of its lies screwing the public.
Just more of the same crap Microsoft. Screw the public more. And God
told them in His Precepts, they are not aloud to leave the seasons of
the earth. And with an ultimatum He did. And it is not pleasant, which
is why, neither is this today. I do not expect to see them come back,
no matter where they do fly to. Or who's software they use will even
matter. It will certainly screw up. Just like they did, telling the
public to close its doors. Offering a measly 2 sense stimulus. Of
which certainly, will never fix the damage.

Oko tillo
2020-05-19 20:08:59 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=147099
Canadian neurologist Andrew Moulden, PhD. MD 1964-2013 explains it all here
in 20 six-minute segments. He was told to play ball or have the ball taken
away.)
Often a comet will streak across the night sky and we will miss it. So our
true champions are murdered and flushed down the memory hole while
charlatans and traitors get Nobel Prizes.
The healthcare industry cannot leave sickness to chance. It is a bigger
business than war.
by Henry Makow PhD — from April 2, 2019
Andrew Moulden should have been awarded a Nobel Prize for showing how the
“healthcare industry” is poisoning the general population with vaccines. He
showed how vaccines were responsible for causing “microscopic strokes” by
limiting the flow of oxygen in the bloodstream reaching capillaries.
In his 2009 interview on vactruth.com, Moulden stated: “I have now
conclusively shown that ALL vaccines, from infancy to geriatric, are causing
the exact same brain damages irrespective of what disease or disorder comes
out. The damages are specific to end vascular “mini-strokes” that are
beneath the resolution of our neuro-imaging, but measurable in a
before/after vaccination protocol. They are also directly measurable in real
time – however, this involves techniques and technology I have not disclosed
to the public as yet.”
Dr Moulden
AND “The evidence is now self-evident. All you have to do now is receive the
education you need to appreciate and see what is before your very eyes –
layperson and Doctor.”
AND “It is no longer an opinion as I now have conclusive evidence to show
that ALL vaccines are causing the exact same damages for us all in the exact
same manner that wild poliovirus caused paralysis, respiratory failure,
death,
For revealing the truth and trying to save innocent millions from sickness
and death, which enrich the health care industry and their accomplices in
government and media, Moulden, left, died prematurely in 2013 supposedly of
suicide. They claimed he was bipolar but the videos show a very competent
and credible young neurologist. He joins the scores of holistic doctors
reported murdered in recent years.
A colleague of Dr. Moulden who wishes to remain anonymous reported to Health
Impact News that he/she had contact with him two weeks before he died in
2013. Dr. Moulden told our source and a small number of trusted colleagues
in October of 2013 that he was about to break his silence and would be
releasing new information which could have destroyed the vaccine model of
disease management, destroyed a major source of funding for the
pharmaceutical industry, and at the same time seriously damaged the
foundation of the germ theory of disease. He was ready to come back. Even
though he had been silenced, he had never stopped his research.
Then, two weeks later, Dr. Moulden suddenly 'suicided'.
more https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/05/Andrew-Moulton-MD.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andrew_Moulden


Oko
Andrew W
2020-05-19 22:40:13 UTC
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Post by Oko tillo
Post by Andrew W
“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=147099
Canadian neurologist Andrew Moulden, PhD. MD 1964-2013 explains it all here
in 20 six-minute segments. He was told to play ball or have the ball taken
away.)
Often a comet will streak across the night sky and we will miss it. So our
true champions are murdered and flushed down the memory hole while
charlatans and traitors get Nobel Prizes.
The healthcare industry cannot leave sickness to chance. It is a bigger
business than war.
by Henry Makow PhD — from April 2, 2019
Andrew Moulden should have been awarded a Nobel Prize for showing how the
“healthcare industry” is poisoning the general population with vaccines. He
showed how vaccines were responsible for causing “microscopic strokes” by
limiting the flow of oxygen in the bloodstream reaching capillaries.
In his 2009 interview on vactruth.com, Moulden stated: “I have now
conclusively shown that ALL vaccines, from infancy to geriatric, are causing
the exact same brain damages irrespective of what disease or disorder comes
out. The damages are specific to end vascular “mini-strokes” that are
beneath the resolution of our neuro-imaging, but measurable in a
before/after vaccination protocol. They are also directly measurable in real
time – however, this involves techniques and technology I have not disclosed
to the public as yet.”
Dr Moulden
AND “The evidence is now self-evident. All you have to do now is receive the
education you need to appreciate and see what is before your very eyes –
layperson and Doctor.”
AND “It is no longer an opinion as I now have conclusive evidence to show
that ALL vaccines are causing the exact same damages for us all in the exact
same manner that wild poliovirus caused paralysis, respiratory failure,
death,
For revealing the truth and trying to save innocent millions from sickness
and death, which enrich the health care industry and their accomplices in
government and media, Moulden, left, died prematurely in 2013 supposedly of
suicide. They claimed he was bipolar but the videos show a very competent
and credible young neurologist. He joins the scores of holistic doctors
reported murdered in recent years.
A colleague of Dr. Moulden who wishes to remain anonymous reported to Health
Impact News that he/she had contact with him two weeks before he died in
2013. Dr. Moulden told our source and a small number of trusted colleagues
in October of 2013 that he was about to break his silence and would be
releasing new information which could have destroyed the vaccine model of
disease management, destroyed a major source of funding for the
pharmaceutical industry, and at the same time seriously damaged the
foundation of the germ theory of disease. He was ready to come back. Even
though he had been silenced, he had never stopped his research.
Then, two weeks later, Dr. Moulden suddenly 'suicided'.
more https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/05/Andrew-Moulton-MD.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andrew_Moulden
Oko
Why post a link to a disinfo site? You're not very smart.
--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/

The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.

A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because if
it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.

http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
Oko tillo
2020-05-20 04:37:21 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Post by Oko tillo
Post by Andrew W
“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=147099
Canadian neurologist Andrew Moulden, PhD. MD 1964-2013 explains it all here
in 20 six-minute segments. He was told to play ball or have the ball taken
away.)
Often a comet will streak across the night sky and we will miss it. So our
true champions are murdered and flushed down the memory hole while
charlatans and traitors get Nobel Prizes.
The healthcare industry cannot leave sickness to chance. It is a bigger
business than war.
by Henry Makow PhD — from April 2, 2019
Andrew Moulden should have been awarded a Nobel Prize for showing how the
“healthcare industry” is poisoning the general population with vaccines. He
showed how vaccines were responsible for causing “microscopic strokes” by
limiting the flow of oxygen in the bloodstream reaching capillaries.
In his 2009 interview on vactruth.com, Moulden stated: “I have now
conclusively shown that ALL vaccines, from infancy to geriatric, are causing
the exact same brain damages irrespective of what disease or disorder comes
out. The damages are specific to end vascular “mini-strokes” that are
beneath the resolution of our neuro-imaging, but measurable in a
before/after vaccination protocol. They are also directly measurable in real
time – however, this involves techniques and technology I have not disclosed
to the public as yet.”
Dr Moulden
AND “The evidence is now self-evident. All you have to do now is receive the
education you need to appreciate and see what is before your very eyes –
layperson and Doctor.”
AND “It is no longer an opinion as I now have conclusive evidence to show
that ALL vaccines are causing the exact same damages for us all in the exact
same manner that wild poliovirus caused paralysis, respiratory failure,
death,
For revealing the truth and trying to save innocent millions from sickness
and death, which enrich the health care industry and their accomplices in
government and media, Moulden, left, died prematurely in 2013 supposedly of
suicide. They claimed he was bipolar but the videos show a very competent
and credible young neurologist. He joins the scores of holistic doctors
reported murdered in recent years.
A colleague of Dr. Moulden who wishes to remain anonymous reported to Health
Impact News that he/she had contact with him two weeks before he died in
2013. Dr. Moulden told our source and a small number of trusted colleagues
in October of 2013 that he was about to break his silence and would be
releasing new information which could have destroyed the vaccine model of
disease management, destroyed a major source of funding for the
pharmaceutical industry, and at the same time seriously damaged the
foundation of the germ theory of disease. He was ready to come back. Even
though he had been silenced, he had never stopped his research.
Then, two weeks later, Dr. Moulden suddenly 'suicided'.
more https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/05/Andrew-Moulton-MD.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andrew_Moulden
Oko
Why post a link to a disinfo site? You're not very smart.
--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/
The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.
A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because if
it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.
http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
I think you're the one who's not getting that
the interdimensional reptillan shapeshifting CIA mantids are
causing AI Mossad deepfake false flags by Masonic predictive
program hyroxychloroquine weather manipulation Monsanto fluoride
trails to distract Moloch crisis actors from the fact that
fake news aliens are hollow and that the Sandy Hook landing
never happened so (((they))) can continue to use CERN vaccines
to harvest gangstalker Jesuit adrenochrome from our kali yuga
Covid-19 pineal glands for Chinese nanochip astral projection
remotely through demonic V2K 5G technology from the black
cube HAARP hexagon on top of Satan.

Oko
Oko tillo
2020-05-20 16:37:29 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Post by Oko tillo
Post by Andrew W
“Suicided” Neurologist, Andrew Moulden, Unwrapped Vaccine Swindle
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=147099
Canadian neurologist Andrew Moulden, PhD. MD 1964-2013 explains it all here
in 20 six-minute segments. He was told to play ball or have the ball taken
away.)
Often a comet will streak across the night sky and we will miss it. So our
true champions are murdered and flushed down the memory hole while
charlatans and traitors get Nobel Prizes.
The healthcare industry cannot leave sickness to chance. It is a bigger
business than war.
by Henry Makow PhD — from April 2, 2019
Andrew Moulden should have been awarded a Nobel Prize for showing how the
“healthcare industry” is poisoning the general population with vaccines. He
showed how vaccines were responsible for causing “microscopic strokes” by
limiting the flow of oxygen in the bloodstream reaching capillaries.
In his 2009 interview on vactruth.com, Moulden stated: “I have now
conclusively shown that ALL vaccines, from infancy to geriatric, are causing
the exact same brain damages irrespective of what disease or disorder comes
out. The damages are specific to end vascular “mini-strokes” that are
beneath the resolution of our neuro-imaging, but measurable in a
before/after vaccination protocol. They are also directly measurable in real
time – however, this involves techniques and technology I have not disclosed
to the public as yet.”
Dr Moulden
AND “The evidence is now self-evident. All you have to do now is receive the
education you need to appreciate and see what is before your very eyes –
layperson and Doctor.”
AND “It is no longer an opinion as I now have conclusive evidence to show
that ALL vaccines are causing the exact same damages for us all in the exact
same manner that wild poliovirus caused paralysis, respiratory failure,
death,
For revealing the truth and trying to save innocent millions from sickness
and death, which enrich the health care industry and their accomplices in
government and media, Moulden, left, died prematurely in 2013 supposedly of
suicide. They claimed he was bipolar but the videos show a very competent
and credible young neurologist. He joins the scores of holistic doctors
reported murdered in recent years.
A colleague of Dr. Moulden who wishes to remain anonymous reported to Health
Impact News that he/she had contact with him two weeks before he died in
2013. Dr. Moulden told our source and a small number of trusted colleagues
in October of 2013 that he was about to break his silence and would be
releasing new information which could have destroyed the vaccine model of
disease management, destroyed a major source of funding for the
pharmaceutical industry, and at the same time seriously damaged the
foundation of the germ theory of disease. He was ready to come back. Even
though he had been silenced, he had never stopped his research.
Then, two weeks later, Dr. Moulden suddenly 'suicided'.
more https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/05/Andrew-Moulton-MD.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andrew_Moulden
Oko
Why post a link to a disinfo site? You're not very smart.
Oh, I'm smart enough to ask you to back up your claim that Rational Wiki is a "disinfo" site:

Here would be convenient:





Oko
Don Martin
2020-05-20 17:29:15 UTC
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On Wed, 20 May 2020 09:37:29 -0700 (PDT), Oko tillo
Post by Andrew W
Why post a link to a disinfo site? You're not very smart.
I love it when a palpably stupid person accuses a knowledgeable one of
stupidity. How long do you expect to wait before he backs up his
claim? An age at least for every part?
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Oko tillo
2020-05-20 18:23:55 UTC
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Post by Don Martin
On Wed, 20 May 2020 09:37:29 -0700 (PDT), Oko tillo
Post by Andrew W
Why post a link to a disinfo site? You're not very smart.
I love it when a palpably stupid person accuses a knowledgeable one of
stupidity. How long do you expect to wait before he backs up his
claim? An age at least for every part?
But dude! He has his sources! Where else could we find absolutely true, guaranteed
we're-not-makingt-this-up information like this?

http://radio.rumormillnews.com/rayelan.htm

Oko
Cloud Hobbit
2020-05-20 20:22:03 UTC
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Post by Oko tillo
Post by Don Martin
On Wed, 20 May 2020 09:37:29 -0700 (PDT), Oko tillo
Post by Andrew W
Why post a link to a disinfo site? You're not very smart.
I love it when a palpably stupid person accuses a knowledgeable one of
stupidity. How long do you expect to wait before he backs up his
claim? An age at least for every part?
But dude! He has his sources! Where else could we find absolutely true, guaranteed
we're-not-makingt-this-up information like this?
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/rayelan.htm
Oko
National Enquirer?
Don Martin
2020-05-20 20:50:26 UTC
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On Wed, 20 May 2020 11:23:55 -0700 (PDT), Oko tillo
Post by Oko tillo
Post by Don Martin
On Wed, 20 May 2020 09:37:29 -0700 (PDT), Oko tillo
Post by Andrew W
Why post a link to a disinfo site? You're not very smart.
I love it when a palpably stupid person accuses a knowledgeable one of
stupidity. How long do you expect to wait before he backs up his
claim? An age at least for every part?
But dude! He has his sources! Where else could we find absolutely true, guaranteed
we're-not-makingt-this-up information like this?
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/rayelan.htm
Like the Black Knight, he has first-hand experience of cutting-edge
information.

But it's only a flesh wound!
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Andrew W
2020-05-21 00:10:30 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Post by Oko tillo
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andrew_Moulden
Oko
Why post a link to a disinfo site? You're not very smart.
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard headed
sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who can't stand
alternative thought.
You are lazy like the rest. Anyone who claims to be smart is usually not.
You need to become a better/broader researcher, more open minded. Science
has changed.

https://kurtnimmo.blog/2019/05/30/the-fake-news-lies-rationalwiki-tells/

https://greylining.com/2012/08/20/rationalwiki-overrun-by-baboons/



https://therationalwiki.blogspot.com/

https://github.com/openzim/mwoffliner/issues/532

https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/RationalWiki?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=602c08249e41e8fd90375e5adbf939a6e977f65d-1590018512-0-ASI3BnquLy1NzKU2USzA0Blt4GLaeNW7-Iixv58dEWhyQgl3Fv1q1D5yNtYZ0lkwLGfM3aIvtMyKuFtcml6TbZDscvN8mA4vDSY0gWcBoFKuAVMtRFfMvXVEbmgJpkY_qyh-fVuzRNcHXae0pmq1D90FxisD7cZXgOyZrkeHRJLvmFaApsZNre5YpRomhTJMWTeATRv4PxHRrWbT4I8EwxBj5nWSL4RwfnWzvMpKsWg9si9P1EuVuAIy8GRdWhq0QV0mfE40wuNKrMabyAjTvkVN2VbETxtfRxEp15yUyPid

https://www.reddit.com/r/prolife/comments/fn7aoo/rationalwiki_outright_lying_about_this_sub/

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/GfMSiorAsYeezpn9o/the-problem-with-rational-wiki

https://burrunjor.com/2017/06/28/why-i-hate-rational-wiki/
--
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The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.

A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because if
it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.

http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
LinuxGal
2020-05-21 00:47:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard headed
sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who can't stand
alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer
because more carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which
reflects infrared photons back to the surface rather than
letting them escape into space.

Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because
hell is expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets
closer to the surface we feel its heat.
--
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Well, two out of three ain't bad!

https://twitter.com/LinuxGal
Andrew W
2020-05-21 01:01:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard headed
sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who can't stand
alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because more
carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared photons back
to the surface rather than letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is expanding
to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to the surface we feel
its heat.
There's no need to get ridiculous.
--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/

The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.

A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because if
it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.

http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
LinuxGal
2020-05-21 01:28:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard headed
sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who can't stand
alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because more
carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared photons back
to the surface rather than letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is expanding
to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to the surface we feel
its heat.
There's no need to get ridiculous.
I didn't invent that, it comes from Matty's Paradigm.
Twitter is a more rich vein of nutburgers than Usenet, even.

https://www.mattysparadigm.org/
--
Linux Geeks: Smart. Single. Sexy.
Well, two out of three ain't bad!

https://twitter.com/LinuxGal
Oko tillo
2020-05-21 01:38:44 UTC
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==
Post by LinuxGal
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard headed
sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who can't stand
alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because more
carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared photons back
to the surface rather than letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is expanding
to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to the surface we feel
its heat.
There's no need to get ridiculous.
I didn't invent that, it comes from Matty's Paradigm.
Twitter is a more rich vein of nutburgers than Usenet, even.
https://www.mattysparadigm.org/
Oops! I posted the one following yours before I saw this post from you.
Though I did find the same site on my own. It's quite ... creative.

As "alternative thought" goes, it's one of the more self-consistent
and well presented. Maybe Andrew W. should check it out?

What is it with these Andrews, anyhow? The Andrew you and I know all too well,
and Andrew W here, and Andrew Wakefield ...


Oko
Don Martin
2020-05-21 12:33:44 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 20 May 2020 18:38:44 -0700 (PDT), Oko tillo
Post by Oko tillo
==
Post by LinuxGal
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard headed
sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who can't stand
alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because more
carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared photons back
to the surface rather than letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is expanding
to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to the surface we feel
its heat.
There's no need to get ridiculous.
I didn't invent that, it comes from Matty's Paradigm.
Twitter is a more rich vein of nutburgers than Usenet, even.
https://www.mattysparadigm.org/
Oops! I posted the one following yours before I saw this post from you.
Though I did find the same site on my own. It's quite ... creative.
As "alternative thought" goes, it's one of the more self-consistent
and well presented. Maybe Andrew W. should check it out?
What is it with these Andrews, anyhow? The Andrew you and I know all too well,
and Andrew W here, and Andrew Wakefield ...
Wakefield?
"When he's in his liquor,
The Vicar is quicker,
And tidies up after himself."
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
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Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Oko tillo
2020-05-21 01:32:42 UTC
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==
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard headed
sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who can't stand
alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because more
carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared photons back
to the surface rather than letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is expanding
to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to the surface we feel
its heat.
There's no need to get ridiculous.
"Ridiculous"?

What ridiculous? Aren't we supposed to research for ourselves and look at alternative ideas?

https://www.mattysparadigm.org/hell-is-expanding/

Teresita, do check out his section on gravity. LIGO is getting it all wrong.


Oko
aaa
2020-05-21 11:53:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard headed
sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who can't stand
alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because more
carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared photons
back to the surface rather than letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to the
surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun can
cause a warming of the Earth. The greenhouse gas is always beneficial to
life on Earth by keeping the Earth surface from freezing like the
surface of the Moon during the night. It has absolutely no effect during
the time of the day when the Sun is hanging in sky. You can't get a
fever by putting on a winter coat. The Earth can't get a warming by
having greenhouse gas either. Global warming is entirely a fiction and a
pseudoscience.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
LinuxGal
2020-05-22 03:00:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by aaa
Post by LinuxGal
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented
by hard headed sceptics who cling to old school textbook
science and who can't stand alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer
because more carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which
reflects infrared photons back to the surface rather than
letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because
hell is expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it
gets closer to the surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only
the Sun can cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared
photons being intercepted and reflected back to the surface
rather than escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean
temperature.
--
Linux Geeks: Smart. Single. Sexy.
Well, two out of three ain't bad!

https://twitter.com/LinuxGal
Oko tillo
2020-05-22 03:40:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by LinuxGal
Post by aaa
Post by LinuxGal
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented
by hard headed sceptics who cling to old school textbook
science and who can't stand alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer
because more carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which
reflects infrared photons back to the surface rather than
letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because
hell is expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it
gets closer to the surface we feel its heat.
==
Post by LinuxGal
Post by aaa
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only
the Sun can cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared
photons being intercepted and reflected back to the surface
rather than escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean
temperature.
Oh, he's had that explained to him in exhaustive detail. Including
the the empirically determined quantitative values of a whole list
of greenhouse gasses.

Doesn't matter: aaa is the archetype for Tom Nichol's book title
"The Death of Expertise" -- people utterly confident that their grossly
uninformed opinions are just as good as conclusions arrived at by
countless specialists who've spent their lives in some field.

In fact he once characterized the consensus on global warming
as "an imagination made to scare people into eating less and breathing little..."

Scare people into "breathing little". Such is the depth of his "understanding".


Oko
Andrew
2020-05-22 08:49:08 UTC
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<<>>
Post by LinuxGal
Post by aaa
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only
the Sun can cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared
photons being intercepted and reflected back to the surface
rather than escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean
temperature.
The ejecta from volcanoes result in serious global cooling.
As in the eruption of Mt. Tambora in 1815 which resulted
in 1816 being the year without a summer.

Cooling, not warming.
Siri Cruise
2020-05-22 10:57:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Andrew
<<>>
Post by LinuxGal
Post by aaa
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only
the Sun can cause a warming of the Earth.
The earth is heated by two stars. The sun and a supernova that
created the uranium and thorium in the core. If the sun were to
disappear today, some life would continue without change.

See also snowball earth.
Post by Andrew
Post by LinuxGal
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared
photons being intercepted and reflected back to the surface
rather than escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean
temperature.
The blackbody radiation from the sun is maximum at the
yellow/green band to which the atmosphere is mostly transparent.
The blackbody radiation of the earth is in the microwave to
infrared band to which the atmosphere is mostly opaque. So there
is radiative heating at the surface but little radiative cooling.

Instead the heat leaves the surface as convection which means the
heat passes upwards as particle collisions, so it takes time.
Global warming speeds up convection until it reaches a new
equilibrium, but that equilibrium is at higher temperature, more
thermal energy in the air, and faster convection currents. The
faster convection also means more molecular collisions which
causes greater charge separation.

(The moon is a case where the surface radiatively cools given the
extremely sparse atmosphere. It quickly cools at nightfall. Mars
and Venus have similar atmosphere dynamics as the earth. Venus
has more greenhouse gas so its surface equilibrium temperature is
higher while taking longer to convect heat to the edge of space.
Mars has less greenhouse gas, so its equilibrium temperature is
lower. It radiates at a lower altitude with less heat stored in
the atmosphere giving it greater variation in surface
temperature. Too much carbon dioxide on the eart has caused heat
extinctions; too little, snowball earth extinctions.)

Water vapour is a greenhouse gas but it has a saturation limit.
At saturation it condenses and falls out of the sky, limitting
its effect. A temperature dpendent limit, but still a limit.

Methane is a greenhouse gas, but in the presence of oxygen and
sunlight, it oxidises to hydroxl acid and carbon dioxide which
limits its residency and effect. Also most of the methane is
produced by life at the present time: it is part of the closed
organic carbon cycle where the carbon added to the atmosphere by
animals and bacteria balances the carbon removed from the
atmosphere by plants and blue-green bacteria. Cow burps were
sugar a few minutes early and will become sugar again tomorrow as
the grass regrows.

Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, it is chemically stable
outside of chloroplasts, and it has no saturation limit. That is
why carbon dioxide has become the principal greenhouse gas:
nonorganic increases in carbon dioxide since widespread coal
burning have outstrip organic carbon extraction. Inorganic carbon
extraction is also limitted by how fast such as calcium is
exposed by erosion.

The release of carbon dioxide (and methane which becomes carbon
dioxide) from formerly sequesterred carbon deposits of coal, oil,
and natural gas has outrun the carbon consumption, which is so
common sense only idiots would deny it, leading to increasing
carbon dioxide quantity in the atmosphere and oceans.

It is humans releasing the sequesterred carbon far above natural
rate; it is humans increasing the carbon dioxide. There is no
other causation to account for the increase release. Natural oil
seeps occur in the Gulf of Mexico, but the dwarfed by blow outs
from human wells.

Few natural responses are linear. Most are exponential due to
hysteresis. Doubling inputs will have a sublinear response until
a critical region where fractional input increases result in far
greater responses that increase faster than the input. See also
Jenga.

The assumption that linear increases in carbon dioxide will have
only linear increases in warming is ill founded. It is the
responsibility of the proposer to verify such an assumption.
Post by Andrew
The ejecta from volcanoes result in serious global cooling.
As in the eruption of Mt. Tambora in 1815 which resulted
in 1816 being the year without a summer.
Volcanic carbon dioxide increases global warming, but it is
almost always matched by natural carbon removal. Exceptions
include permian extinction. Luckily earth doesn't have this kind
of bad day very often.

Volcanic dust falls out of the sky quickly, like days or months.
For example Iceland eruptions can stop Atlantic flights, but only
for a couple of weeks.

Volcanic sulphur gasses and take up long term residence in the
upper atmosphere. They absorb light and reradiate near the top of
convection cells. That means they reduce the light heating the
surface and reradiate above most the atmosphere; those combine to
reduce atmospheric heat.

While the sulphur is a long term resident it is not a permanent
resident. It percipitates. Usual volcano cooling is on the order
of a year or ten. The earth has had a few bad days, but only a
few. Thank your deity or the Holy T.
Post by Andrew
Cooling, not warming.
Volcanoes are short term cooling from the dust and sulphur, and
potentially long term warming from carbon dioxide. Snowball earth
periods were ended when volcanic carbon dioxide in an absence of
vegetation eventually caused a global thawing.

How fast can volcanoes alone warm the earth? A back of the
envelope estimate is how many millions of years snowball earths
lasted. Also the millions of years of ice (or the millions of
years of heat extinctions) against solar variations of even
centuries show the limits of solar variation on the global
warming. The primary control is the amount of carbon dioxide.
Humans are obviously increasing it.

So how stupid are you?
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aaa
2020-05-22 20:43:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Andrew
<<>>
Post by LinuxGal
Post by aaa
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only
the Sun can cause a warming of the Earth.
The earth is heated by two stars. The sun and a supernova that
created the uranium and thorium in the core. If the sun were to
disappear today, some life would continue without change.
See also snowball earth.
Post by Andrew
Post by LinuxGal
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared
photons being intercepted and reflected back to the surface
rather than escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean
temperature.
The blackbody radiation from the sun is maximum at the
yellow/green band to which the atmosphere is mostly transparent.
The blackbody radiation of the earth is in the microwave to
infrared band to which the atmosphere is mostly opaque. So there
is radiative heating at the surface but little radiative cooling.
Instead the heat leaves the surface as convection which means the
heat passes upwards as particle collisions, so it takes time.
Global warming speeds up convection until it reaches a new
equilibrium, but that equilibrium is at higher temperature, more
thermal energy in the air, and faster convection currents. The
faster convection also means more molecular collisions which
causes greater charge separation.
(The moon is a case where the surface radiatively cools given the
extremely sparse atmosphere. It quickly cools at nightfall. Mars
and Venus have similar atmosphere dynamics as the earth. Venus
has more greenhouse gas so its surface equilibrium temperature is
higher while taking longer to convect heat to the edge of space.
Mars has less greenhouse gas, so its equilibrium temperature is
lower. It radiates at a lower altitude with less heat stored in
the atmosphere giving it greater variation in surface
temperature. Too much carbon dioxide on the eart has caused heat
extinctions; too little, snowball earth extinctions.)
Water vapour is a greenhouse gas but it has a saturation limit.
At saturation it condenses and falls out of the sky, limitting
its effect. A temperature dpendent limit, but still a limit.
Methane is a greenhouse gas, but in the presence of oxygen and
sunlight, it oxidises to hydroxl acid and carbon dioxide which
limits its residency and effect. Also most of the methane is
produced by life at the present time: it is part of the closed
organic carbon cycle where the carbon added to the atmosphere by
animals and bacteria balances the carbon removed from the
atmosphere by plants and blue-green bacteria. Cow burps were
sugar a few minutes early and will become sugar again tomorrow as
the grass regrows.
Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, it is chemically stable
outside of chloroplasts, and it has no saturation limit. That is
nonorganic increases in carbon dioxide since widespread coal
burning have outstrip organic carbon extraction. Inorganic carbon
extraction is also limitted by how fast such as calcium is
exposed by erosion.
The release of carbon dioxide (and methane which becomes carbon
dioxide) from formerly sequesterred carbon deposits of coal, oil,
and natural gas has outrun the carbon consumption, which is so
common sense only idiots would deny it, leading to increasing
carbon dioxide quantity in the atmosphere and oceans.
It is humans releasing the sequesterred carbon far above natural
rate; it is humans increasing the carbon dioxide. There is no
other causation to account for the increase release. Natural oil
seeps occur in the Gulf of Mexico, but the dwarfed by blow outs
from human wells.
Few natural responses are linear. Most are exponential due to
hysteresis. Doubling inputs will have a sublinear response until
a critical region where fractional input increases result in far
greater responses that increase faster than the input. See also
Jenga.
The assumption that linear increases in carbon dioxide will have
only linear increases in warming is ill founded. It is the
responsibility of the proposer to verify such an assumption.
Even so, your entire analysis is still only a theory under ideal
situation. The real problem is that the greenhouse gas doesn't generate
heat. It has always been the burning sun that is heating up the earth.
In order to make the effect of greenhouse gas significant, the heat
coming from the sun must be assumed as the mathematical constant. Since
the radiation of the sun is never a constant, the entire theory of
greenhouse gas is meaningless and useless under the real climate
condition. It's just the brain fart of the theoretical scientists.
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Andrew
The ejecta from volcanoes result in serious global cooling.
As in the eruption of Mt. Tambora in 1815 which resulted
in 1816 being the year without a summer.
Volcanic carbon dioxide increases global warming, but it is
almost always matched by natural carbon removal. Exceptions
include permian extinction. Luckily earth doesn't have this kind
of bad day very often.
Volcanic dust falls out of the sky quickly, like days or months.
For example Iceland eruptions can stop Atlantic flights, but only
for a couple of weeks.
Volcanic sulphur gasses and take up long term residence in the
upper atmosphere. They absorb light and reradiate near the top of
convection cells. That means they reduce the light heating the
surface and reradiate above most the atmosphere; those combine to
reduce atmospheric heat.
While the sulphur is a long term resident it is not a permanent
resident. It percipitates. Usual volcano cooling is on the order
of a year or ten. The earth has had a few bad days, but only a
few. Thank your deity or the Holy T.
Post by Andrew
Cooling, not warming.
Volcanoes are short term cooling from the dust and sulphur, and
potentially long term warming from carbon dioxide. Snowball earth
periods were ended when volcanic carbon dioxide in an absence of
vegetation eventually caused a global thawing.
How fast can volcanoes alone warm the earth? A back of the
envelope estimate is how many millions of years snowball earths
lasted. Also the millions of years of ice (or the millions of
years of heat extinctions) against solar variations of even
centuries show the limits of solar variation on the global
warming. The primary control is the amount of carbon dioxide.
Humans are obviously increasing it.
So how stupid are you?
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Siri Cruise
2020-05-22 22:45:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by aaa
coming from the sun must be assumed as the mathematical constant. Since
the radiation of the sun is never a constant, the entire theory of
greenhouse gas is meaningless and useless under the real climate
condition. It's just the brain fart of the theoretical scientists.
How come variations in sunlight didn't thaw the earth during
snowball phases?
--
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'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
The first law of discordiamism: The more energy This post / \
to make order is nore energy made into entropy. insults Islam. Mohammed
aaa
2020-05-22 22:53:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by aaa
coming from the sun must be assumed as the mathematical constant. Since
the radiation of the sun is never a constant, the entire theory of
greenhouse gas is meaningless and useless under the real climate
condition. It's just the brain fart of the theoretical scientists.
How come variations in sunlight didn't thaw the earth during
snowball phases?
Whatever happens, it has something to do with the sun and nothing to do
with men.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
LinuxGal
2020-05-22 23:03:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by aaa
coming from the sun must be assumed as the mathematical constant. Since
the radiation of the sun is never a constant, the entire theory of
greenhouse gas is meaningless and useless under the real climate
condition. It's just the brain fart of the theoretical scientists.
How come variations in sunlight didn't thaw the earth during
snowball phases?
Whatever happens, it has something to do with the sun and nothing to do with
men.
Just because.
--
Linux Geeks: Smart. Single. Sexy.
Well, two out of three ain't bad!

https://twitter.com/LinuxGal
Oko tillo
2020-05-22 23:30:42 UTC
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Post by LinuxGal
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by aaa
coming from the sun must be assumed as the mathematical constant. Since
the radiation of the sun is never a constant, the entire theory of
greenhouse gas is meaningless and useless under the real climate
condition. It's just the brain fart of the theoretical scientists.
How come variations in sunlight didn't thaw the earth during
snowball phases?
Whatever happens, it has something to do with the sun and nothing to do with
men.
Just because.
Teresita -- and Siri -- just in case you're not aware of it, you're trying to
debate science with the boy who told us that he himself has "completed"
the Second Law of Thermodynamics -- apparently those bumblers
Clausius and Clapeyron and Lord Kelvin overlooked a bit, but it
didn't get by our boy here - and thus he's disproved evolution along the way.

Good luck trying to penetrate that kind of armor.


Oko
aaa
2020-05-23 14:27:00 UTC
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Post by Oko tillo
==
Post by LinuxGal
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by aaa
coming from the sun must be assumed as the mathematical constant. Since
the radiation of the sun is never a constant, the entire theory of
greenhouse gas is meaningless and useless under the real climate
condition. It's just the brain fart of the theoretical scientists.
How come variations in sunlight didn't thaw the earth during
snowball phases?
Whatever happens, it has something to do with the sun and nothing to do with
men.
Just because.
Teresita -- and Siri -- just in case you're not aware of it, you're trying to
debate science with the boy who told us that he himself has "completed"
the Second Law of Thermodynamics -- apparently those bumblers
Clausius and Clapeyron and Lord Kelvin overlooked a bit, but it
didn't get by our boy here - and thus he's disproved evolution along the way.
Good luck trying to penetrate that kind of armor.
I believe I did give you a much better and more complete understanding
of the second law, and you can't show otherwise.
Post by Oko tillo
Oko
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Siri Cruise
2020-05-23 01:25:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by aaa
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by aaa
coming from the sun must be assumed as the mathematical constant. Since
the radiation of the sun is never a constant, the entire theory of
greenhouse gas is meaningless and useless under the real climate
condition. It's just the brain fart of the theoretical scientists.
How come variations in sunlight didn't thaw the earth during
snowball phases?
Whatever happens, it has something to do with the sun and nothing to do
with men.
Ha-ha. What an idiot. The answer is in the back of the book.
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2020-05-23 14:24:20 UTC
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coming from the sun must be assumed as the mathematical constant. Since
the radiation of the sun is never a constant, the entire theory of
greenhouse gas is meaningless and useless under the real climate
condition. It's just the brain fart of the theoretical scientists.
How come variations in sunlight didn't thaw the earth during
snowball phases?
Whatever happens, it has something to do with the sun and nothing to do
with men.
Ha-ha. What an idiot. The answer is in the back of the book.
Who care? The real point is that you are ignoring my argument about the
actual issue.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Oko tillo
2020-05-22 17:45:58 UTC
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Post by LinuxGal
Post by aaa
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only
the Sun can cause a warming of the Earth.
==
Post by Andrew
Post by LinuxGal
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared
photons being intercepted and reflected back to the surface
rather than escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean
temperature.
The ejecta from volcanoes result in serious global cooling.
As in the eruption of Mt. Tambora in 1815 which resulted
in 1816 being the year without a summer.
Cooling, not warming.
Which is both true and irrelevant to the greenhouse efficacy of carbon dioxide.
Your system has multiple variables, including sulfates and particulates along
with the CO2. The former two tend to lower temperatures, the latter tends
to raise them.


Oko
Andrew
2020-05-22 19:58:32 UTC
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Post by Andrew
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Post by LinuxGal
Post by aaa
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only
the Sun can cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared
photons being intercepted and reflected back to the surface
rather than escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean
temperature.
The ejecta from volcanoes result in serious global cooling.
As in the eruption of Mt. Tambora in 1815 which resulted
in 1816 being the year without a summer.
Cooling, not warming.
Which is both true and irrelevant to the greenhouse efficacy of carbon dioxide.
Your system has multiple variables, including sulfates and particulates along
with the CO2. The former two tend to lower temperatures, the latter tends
to raise them.
So what is the bottom line here as a result of high volcanic ejecta?
Cooling as in the eruption of Mt. Tambora in 1815 which resulted
in 1816 being the year without a summer.

Other examples.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_winter
Oko tillo
2020-05-22 21:28:12 UTC
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Post by Oko tillo
Post by Andrew
<<>>
Post by LinuxGal
Post by aaa
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only
the Sun can cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared
photons being intercepted and reflected back to the surface
rather than escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean
temperature.
The ejecta from volcanoes result in serious global cooling.
As in the eruption of Mt. Tambora in 1815 which resulted
in 1816 being the year without a summer.
Cooling, not warming.
Which is both true and irrelevant to the greenhouse efficacy of carbon dioxide.
Your system has multiple variables, including sulfates and particulates along
with the CO2. The former two tend to lower temperatures, the latter tends
to raise them.
So what is the bottom line here as a result of high volcanic ejecta?
Cooling as in the eruption of Mt. Tambora in 1815 which resulted
in 1816 being the year without a summer.
Other examples.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_winter
Yes, and the same argument applies to them as well.

I fail to see your point. If any.


Oko
LinuxGal
2020-05-22 19:33:02 UTC
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There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only
the Sun can cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared
photons being intercepted and reflected back to the surface
rather than escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean
temperature.
The ejecta from volcanoes result in serious global cooling.
As in the eruption of Mt. Tambora in 1815 which resulted
in 1816 being the year without a summer.
I noted how you had to reach back two centuries for an
example of this.
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Oko tillo
2020-05-22 21:27:34 UTC
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Post by Andrew
<<>>
Post by LinuxGal
Post by aaa
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only
the Sun can cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared
photons being intercepted and reflected back to the surface
rather than escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean
temperature.
==
Post by LinuxGal
Post by Andrew
The ejecta from volcanoes result in serious global cooling.
As in the eruption of Mt. Tambora in 1815 which resulted
in 1816 being the year without a summer.
I noted how you had to reach back two centuries for an
example of this.
The Youngest Toba eruption would have been a much better example.
Destruction on a scale that would satisfy even Andrew's ghoulish tastes.

But that would have involved his accepting that humans were around
seventy thousand years ago, so I guess that's off the board.


Oko
aaa
2020-05-22 14:34:27 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard
headed sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who
can't stand alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because more
carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared photons
back to the surface rather than letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to the
surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun can
cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared photons
being intercepted and reflected back to the surface rather than escaping
into space, which causes a rise of mean temperature.Fa
Completely false. Green house gas only delays the *cooling* of the
Earth. It doesn't increase the temperature of the earth surface since it
doesn't generate heat. You can only blame the greenhouse gas if you want
to deep freeze the planet Earth instead. The entire global warming
excuse is logically false.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Oko tillo
2020-05-22 17:48:33 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard
headed sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who
can't stand alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because more
carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared photons
back to the surface rather than letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to the
surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun can
cause a warming of the Earth.
==
Post by aaa
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared photons
being intercepted and reflected back to the surface rather than escaping
into space, which causes a rise of mean temperature.Fa
Completely false. Green house gas only delays the *cooling* of the
Earth. It doesn't increase the temperature of the earth surface since it
doesn't generate heat. You can only blame the greenhouse gas if you want
to deep freeze the planet Earth instead. The entire global warming
excuse is logically false.
Told ya, Teresita. As impervious as Magneto's helmet.



Oko
aaa
2020-05-22 22:27:49 UTC
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Post by Oko tillo
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard
headed sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who
can't stand alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because more
carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared photons
back to the surface rather than letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to the
surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun can
cause a warming of the Earth.
==
Post by aaa
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared photons
being intercepted and reflected back to the surface rather than escaping
into space, which causes a rise of mean temperature.Fa
Completely false. Green house gas only delays the *cooling* of the
Earth. It doesn't increase the temperature of the earth surface since it
doesn't generate heat. You can only blame the greenhouse gas if you want
to deep freeze the planet Earth instead. The entire global warming
excuse is logically false.
Told ya, Teresita. As impervious as Magneto's helmet.
Too bad you can't debate the actual issue.
Post by Oko tillo
Oko
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Mitchell Holman
2020-05-22 18:20:56 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard
headed sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who
can't stand alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because more
carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared photons
back to the surface rather than letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to the
surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun can
cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared photons
being intercepted and reflected back to the surface rather than escaping
into space, which causes a rise of mean temperature.Fa
Completely false. Green house gas only delays the *cooling* of the
Earth. It doesn't increase the temperature of the earth surface since it
doesn't generate heat.
You are missing the point. Green house gases
don't increase temperatures, they merely trap the
heat already created and keep it from disapating.
Do you know how a greenhouse works in winter, by
trapping solar energy via glass panes and keep
it inside the greenhouse?

Or do you think those glass panes "generate
heat" all by themselves?
aaa
2020-05-22 22:36:08 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard
headed sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who
can't stand alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because more
carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared photons
back to the surface rather than letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to the
surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun can
cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared photons
being intercepted and reflected back to the surface rather than escaping
into space, which causes a rise of mean temperature.Fa
Completely false. Green house gas only delays the *cooling* of the
Earth. It doesn't increase the temperature of the earth surface since it
doesn't generate heat.
You are missing the point. Green house gases
don't increase temperatures, they merely trap the
heat already created and keep it from disapating.
IOW, it keeps the existing temperature more stable.

How do you jump from a stable temperature to a warming temperature?

Where is your justification for such great leap of logic?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Do you know how a greenhouse works in winter, by
trapping solar energy via glass panes and keep
it inside the greenhouse?
Exactly. The inside of greenhouse is like the condition on Earth. The
outside of greenhouse is like the surface of the Moon. It's all because
of the greenhouse gas or the lack of. Do you want to live on the surface
of Moon instead?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Or do you think those glass panes "generate
heat" all by themselves?
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Mitchell Holman
2020-05-23 01:38:29 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard
headed sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who
can't stand alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because
more carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared
photons back to the surface rather than letting them escape into
space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to
the surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun
can cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared photons
being intercepted and reflected back to the surface rather than
escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean temperature.Fa
Completely false. Green house gas only delays the *cooling* of the
Earth. It doesn't increase the temperature of the earth surface
since it doesn't generate heat.
You are missing the point. Green house gases
don't increase temperatures, they merely trap the
heat already created and keep it from disapating.
IOW, it keeps the existing temperature more stable.
How do you jump from a stable temperature to a warming temperature?
Where is your justification for such great leap of logic?
No logic needed, scientific facts tell all.

Do you know more than the professional
climatologists at the Pentagon?




New Pentagon Report: "The effects of a changing
climate are a national security issue"
JAn 18, 2019

In the Fiscal Year 2018 National Defense
Authorization Act, the U.S. Congress asked
the Department of Defense (DoD) to provide
a report on "vulnerabilities to military
installations and combatant commander
requirements resulting from climate change
over the next 20 years." That report was
delivered to Congress yesterday, prosaically-
titled Report on Effects of a Changing Climate
to the Department of Defense.

The first sentence in the background section
of the study is worth noting. It reaffirms that
the DoD continues to take climate change seriously,
as it has across four administrations, both
Republican and Democrat. The sentence reads: "The
effects of a changing climate are a national
security issue with potential impacts to
Department of Defense (DoD or the Department)
missions, operational plans, and installations."
https://tinyurl.com/y753qswr
Oko tillo
2020-05-23 02:26:08 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard
headed sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who
can't stand alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because
more carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared
photons back to the surface rather than letting them escape into
space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to
the surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun
can cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared photons
being intercepted and reflected back to the surface rather than
escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean temperature.Fa
Completely false. Green house gas only delays the *cooling* of the
Earth. It doesn't increase the temperature of the earth surface
since it doesn't generate heat.
You are missing the point. Green house gases
don't increase temperatures, they merely trap the
heat already created and keep it from disapating.
IOW, it keeps the existing temperature more stable.
How do you jump from a stable temperature to a warming temperature?
Where is your justification for such great leap of logic?
No logic needed, scientific facts tell all.
Do you know more than the professional
climatologists at the Pentagon?
New Pentagon Report: "The effects of a changing
climate are a national security issue"
JAn 18, 2019
In the Fiscal Year 2018 National Defense
Authorization Act, the U.S. Congress asked
the Department of Defense (DoD) to provide
a report on "vulnerabilities to military
installations and combatant commander
requirements resulting from climate change
over the next 20 years." That report was
delivered to Congress yesterday, prosaically-
titled Report on Effects of a Changing Climate
to the Department of Defense.
The first sentence in the background section
of the study is worth noting. It reaffirms that
the DoD continues to take climate change seriously,
as it has across four administrations, both
Republican and Democrat. The sentence reads: "The
effects of a changing climate are a national
security issue with potential impacts to
Department of Defense (DoD or the Department)
missions, operational plans, and installations."
https://tinyurl.com/y753qswr
Dude! Is there *any* topic he doesn't know more than the experts about?


Oko
Mitchell Holman
2020-05-23 02:47:35 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard
headed sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who
can't stand alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because
more carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared
photons back to the surface rather than letting them escape into
space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to
the surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun
can cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared photons
being intercepted and reflected back to the surface rather than
escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean temperature.Fa
Completely false. Green house gas only delays the *cooling* of the
Earth. It doesn't increase the temperature of the earth surface
since it doesn't generate heat.
You are missing the point. Green house gases
don't increase temperatures, they merely trap the
heat already created and keep it from disapating.
IOW, it keeps the existing temperature more stable.
How do you jump from a stable temperature to a warming temperature?
Where is your justification for such great leap of logic?
No logic needed, scientific facts tell all.
Do you know more than the professional
climatologists at the Pentagon?
New Pentagon Report: "The effects of a changing
climate are a national security issue"
JAn 18, 2019
In the Fiscal Year 2018 National Defense
Authorization Act, the U.S. Congress asked
the Department of Defense (DoD) to provide
a report on "vulnerabilities to military
installations and combatant commander
requirements resulting from climate change
over the next 20 years." That report was
delivered to Congress yesterday, prosaically-
titled Report on Effects of a Changing Climate
to the Department of Defense.
The first sentence in the background section
of the study is worth noting. It reaffirms that
the DoD continues to take climate change seriously,
as it has across four administrations, both
Republican and Democrat. The sentence reads: "The
effects of a changing climate are a national
security issue with potential impacts to
Department of Defense (DoD or the Department)
missions, operational plans, and installations."
https://tinyurl.com/y753qswr
Dude! Is there *any* topic he doesn't know more than the experts about?
Apparently not.





"I have understood evolution without reading
a single sentence from any book or article
about evolution."
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Andrew
2020-05-23 03:21:18 UTC
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Post by Oko tillo
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard
headed sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who
can't stand alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because
more carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared
photons back to the surface rather than letting them escape into
space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to
the surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun
can cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared photons
being intercepted and reflected back to the surface rather than
escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean temperature.Fa
Completely false. Green house gas only delays the *cooling* of the
Earth. It doesn't increase the temperature of the earth surface
since it doesn't generate heat.
You are missing the point. Green house gases
don't increase temperatures, they merely trap the
heat already created and keep it from disapating.
IOW, it keeps the existing temperature more stable.
How do you jump from a stable temperature to a warming temperature?
Where is your justification for such great leap of logic?
No logic needed, scientific facts tell all.
Do you know more than the professional
climatologists at the Pentagon?
New Pentagon Report: "The effects of a changing
climate are a national security issue"
JAn 18, 2019
In the Fiscal Year 2018 National Defense
Authorization Act, the U.S. Congress asked
the Department of Defense (DoD) to provide
a report on "vulnerabilities to military
installations and combatant commander
requirements resulting from climate change
over the next 20 years." That report was
delivered to Congress yesterday, prosaically-
titled Report on Effects of a Changing Climate
to the Department of Defense.
The first sentence in the background section
of the study is worth noting. It reaffirms that
the DoD continues to take climate change seriously,
as it has across four administrations, both
Republican and Democrat. The sentence reads: "The
effects of a changing climate are a national
security issue with potential impacts to
Department of Defense (DoD or the Department)
missions, operational plans, and installations."
https://tinyurl.com/y753qswr
Dude! Is there *any* topic he doesn't know more
than the experts about?
Apparently not.
There is a difference, a big difference, between the agenda
driven propaganda machine that you give credence to, and
unbiased experts.

Your gullibility is palpable. You believe the hype that we
are headed towards a much hotter climate - but we're not.

Look up *Grand Solar Minimum* and what that portends
for the coming years. That is, if you want the truth.
--> https://tinyurl.com/yarj2toh

The GSM will bring with it ferocious cold, major crop
losses, big earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. As has
happened during previous extreme solar minimums.
THAT is what we are headed for.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4625153/
Oko tillo
2020-05-23 05:28:09 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Oko tillo
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard
headed sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who
can't stand alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because
more carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared
photons back to the surface rather than letting them escape into
space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to
the surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun
can cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared photons
being intercepted and reflected back to the surface rather than
escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean temperature.Fa
Completely false. Green house gas only delays the *cooling* of the
Earth. It doesn't increase the temperature of the earth surface
since it doesn't generate heat.
You are missing the point. Green house gases
don't increase temperatures, they merely trap the
heat already created and keep it from disapating.
IOW, it keeps the existing temperature more stable.
How do you jump from a stable temperature to a warming temperature?
Where is your justification for such great leap of logic?
No logic needed, scientific facts tell all.
Do you know more than the professional
climatologists at the Pentagon?
New Pentagon Report: "The effects of a changing
climate are a national security issue"
JAn 18, 2019
In the Fiscal Year 2018 National Defense
Authorization Act, the U.S. Congress asked
the Department of Defense (DoD) to provide
a report on "vulnerabilities to military
installations and combatant commander
requirements resulting from climate change
over the next 20 years." That report was
delivered to Congress yesterday, prosaically-
titled Report on Effects of a Changing Climate
to the Department of Defense.
The first sentence in the background section
of the study is worth noting. It reaffirms that
the DoD continues to take climate change seriously,
as it has across four administrations, both
Republican and Democrat. The sentence reads: "The
effects of a changing climate are a national
security issue with potential impacts to
Department of Defense (DoD or the Department)
missions, operational plans, and installations."
https://tinyurl.com/y753qswr
==
Post by Andrew
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Oko tillo
Dude! Is there *any* topic he doesn't know more
than the experts about?
Apparently not.
There is a difference, a big difference, between the agenda
driven propaganda machine that you give credence to, and
unbiased experts.
Your gullibility is palpable.
You believe the hype that we
Post by Andrew
are headed towards a much hotter climate - but we're not.
Look up *Grand Solar Minimum* and what that portends
for the coming years. That is, if you want the truth.
--> https://tinyurl.com/yarj2toh
Ah. Andrew's "unbiased experts" speak up.

From a site that has zero other articles on meteorology -- or any other science --
but does cary many ones on

consciousness
esoteric philosophy
psychology
self- realization
Veda
yoga.
Tagged consciousness
mindfulness
philosophy
sanskrit
self-realization
Veda
and, last but not least:
Vedanta

Want your chakras aligned? They've got you covered.
Want advanced climatology science? Not so much.
Post by Andrew
The GSM will bring with it ferocious cold, major crop
losses, big earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. As has
happened during previous extreme solar minimums.
"Will bring"? When will the fun start, given that we're already
in it and may have just passed the lowest point?

https://www.sciencealert.com/we-re-about-to-experience-solar-minimum-here-s-what-that-really-means

https://www.almanac.com/content/solar-cycle-updates-and-predictions

https://www.weather.gov/news/190504-sun-activity-in-solar-cycle
Post by Andrew
THAT is what we are headed for.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4625153/
I'm sorry, but a five year old article describing a possible new
model based on complex solar dynamics containing exactly
zero references to temperatures is supposed to convince
us of ... what, exactly?


Oko
aaa
2020-05-23 14:29:53 UTC
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Post by aaa
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Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard
headed sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who
can't stand alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because
more carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared
photons back to the surface rather than letting them escape into
space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to
the surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun
can cause a warming of the Earth.
Also an increase of carbon dioxide results in more infrared photons
being intercepted and reflected back to the surface rather than
escaping into space, which causes a rise of mean temperature.Fa
Completely false. Green house gas only delays the *cooling* of the
Earth. It doesn't increase the temperature of the earth surface
since it doesn't generate heat.
You are missing the point. Green house gases
don't increase temperatures, they merely trap the
heat already created and keep it from disapating.
IOW, it keeps the existing temperature more stable.
How do you jump from a stable temperature to a warming temperature?
Where is your justification for such great leap of logic?
No logic needed, scientific facts tell all.
Without logic, there is no argument for the human caused global warming.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Do you know more than the professional
climatologists at the Pentagon?
I have shown the logical gap in their reasoning, and you can't prove
otherwise.
Post by Mitchell Holman
New Pentagon Report: "The effects of a changing
climate are a national security issue"
JAn 18, 2019
In the Fiscal Year 2018 National Defense
Authorization Act, the U.S. Congress asked
the Department of Defense (DoD) to provide
a report on "vulnerabilities to military
installations and combatant commander
requirements resulting from climate change
over the next 20 years." That report was
delivered to Congress yesterday, prosaically-
titled Report on Effects of a Changing Climate
to the Department of Defense.
The first sentence in the background section
of the study is worth noting. It reaffirms that
the DoD continues to take climate change seriously,
as it has across four administrations, both
Republican and Democrat. The sentence reads: "The
effects of a changing climate are a national
security issue with potential impacts to
Department of Defense (DoD or the Department)
missions, operational plans, and installations."
https://tinyurl.com/y753qswr
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God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Andrew W
2020-05-22 03:47:39 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/
The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.
A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because
if it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.
http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard headed
sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who can't stand
alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because more
carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared photons
back to the surface rather than letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to the
surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun can cause
a warming of the Earth. The greenhouse gas is always beneficial to life on
Earth by keeping the Earth surface from freezing like the surface of the
Moon during the night. It has absolutely no effect during the time of the
day when the Sun is hanging in sky. You can't get a fever by putting on a
winter coat. The Earth can't get a warming by having greenhouse gas either.
Global warming is entirely a fiction and a pseudoscience.
Except one thing most people miss, if factories and cars keep pumping toxic
chemicals into the environment then at some point it will start to affect
the ecosystem and then weather systems.
The greenhouse gas/(natural)carbon dioxide idea was actually a red herring
that was thrown in by the corporations to avoid getting blamed because then
they would lose profits.
--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/

The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.

A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because if
it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.

http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
aaa
2020-05-22 14:36:41 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/
The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then
throw it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's
from the Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.
A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated?
Because if it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.
http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.
Post by Andrew W
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard headed
sceptics who cling to old school textbook science and who can't stand
alternative thought.
Old school textbook science: The Earth is getting warmer because more
carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, which reflects infrared photons
back to the surface rather than letting them escape into space.
Alternative thought: The Earth is getting warmer because hell is
expanding to accomodate more sinners, and as it gets closer to the
surface we feel its heat.
There is no evidence of human caused global warming. Only the Sun can
cause a warming of the Earth. The greenhouse gas is always beneficial
to life on Earth by keeping the Earth surface from freezing like the
surface of the Moon during the night. It has absolutely no effect
during the time of the day when the Sun is hanging in sky. You can't
get a fever by putting on a winter coat. The Earth can't get a warming
by having greenhouse gas either. Global warming is entirely a fiction
and a pseudoscience.
Except one thing most people miss, if factories and cars keep pumping
toxic chemicals into the environment then at some point it will start to
affect the ecosystem and then weather systems.
The greenhouse gas/(natural)carbon dioxide idea was actually a red
herring that was thrown in by the corporations to avoid getting blamed
because then they would lose profits.
China is turning green thanks to industrialization and greenhouse gas.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Oko tillo
2020-05-21 01:20:32 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Post by Oko tillo
Post by Andrew W
Post by Oko tillo
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andrew_Moulden
Oko
Why post a link to a disinfo site? You're not very smart.
Oh, I'm smart enough to ask you to back up your claim that Rational Wiki is
Rational Wiki is edited by anyone and mostly frequented by hard headed
sceptics
... which everyone should be. About everything.
Post by Andrew W
who cling to old school textbook science
... also known as "science".
Post by Andrew W
and who can't stand alternative thought.
I've looked around your best site for "alternative" thought.

Hoo boy, you sure nailed that one. Alternative reality indeed.
Post by Andrew W
You are lazy like the rest. Anyone who claims to be smart is usually not.
Well then, I'm safe, because I've never made such a claim.
Post by Andrew W
You need to become a better/broader researcher, more open minded. Science
has changed.
Actually, "science" has not.

But there has been a stunning rise of people who don't need no steenkin' experts,
because their opinions are just as good as the opinions of people
who've spent their lifetimes studying a field.

And any thing they can come up, no matter how unevidenced and bizzarre with will
ind a home somewhere on the net. Whereupon it becomes "research".

Have you checked out whale.to? It's a gold mine.
Post by Andrew W
https://kurtnimmo.blog/2019/05/30/the-fake-news-lies-rationalwiki-tells/
https://greylining.com/2012/08/20/rationalwiki-overrun-by-baboons/
http://youtu.be/g4_tRgsXeV4
https://therationalwiki.blogspot.com/
https://github.com/openzim/mwoffliner/issues/532
https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/RationalWiki?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=602c08249e41e8fd90375e5adbf939a6e977f65d-1590018512-0-ASI3BnquLy1NzKU2USzA0Blt4GLaeNW7-Iixv58dEWhyQgl3Fv1q1D5yNtYZ0lkwLGfM3aIvtMyKuFtcml6TbZDscvN8mA4vDSY0gWcBoFKuAVMtRFfMvXVEbmgJpkY_qyh-fVuzRNcHXae0pmq1D90FxisD7cZXgOyZrkeHRJLvmFaApsZNre5YpRomhTJMWTeATRv4PxHRrWbT4I8EwxBj5nWSL4RwfnWzvMpKsWg9si9P1EuVuAIy8GRdWhq0QV0mfE40wuNKrMabyAjTvkVN2VbETxtfRxEp15yUyPid
https://www.reddit.com/r/prolife/comments/fn7aoo/rationalwiki_outright_lying_about_this_sub/
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/GfMSiorAsYeezpn9o/the-problem-with-rational-wiki
https://burrunjor.com/2017/06/28/why-i-hate-rational-wiki/
One site with what appears to be legitimate claims, several cites whining
about RationalWiki's cheeky snark, others that don't care for its
general liberal leaning, one reddit anti-abortion site complaining because
RationalWiki points out the kinds of posts that appear there,
and then a reference to this one:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/metapedia/

Seriously?




Do you actually read these things, or do you just hit google and throw
out any links that look promising?


Sorry, really not convinced here.


Oko
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