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Exordium questions (no spoilers)
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t***@gmail.com
2019-07-02 13:49:12 UTC
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A few days ago, I finished "The Thrones of Kronos" the 5th & final
entry in the Exordium series. I enjoyed this series, and I thought the
final book tied up just about everything well.

That said, there was one big honkin' huge issue that was
introduced in this book and it was quite openly left unresolved.

Does anyone know if Smith&Trowbridge were ever planning a sequel?
I can't find anything online.

Also, I have the original versions of the first two books. Are there
significant differences in the two rewritten/revised versions?

Thanks,
Tony
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2019-07-02 14:13:26 UTC
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A few days ago, I finished "The Thrones of Kronos" the 5th & final
entry in the Exordium series. I enjoyed this series, and I thought the
final book tied up just about everything well.
That said, there was one big honkin' huge issue that was
introduced in this book and it was quite openly left unresolved.
Does anyone know if Smith&Trowbridge were ever planning a sequel?
I can't find anything online.
Also, I have the original versions of the first two books. Are there
significant differences in the two rewritten/revised versions?
Thanks,
Tony
This was one of my favorite series: From high tragedy to low humor, all
done with a certain dash & verve.

I don't have the answer to your questions; just wanted to throw in a
'like' as I do every few years.

The authors have posted here at least once. If you search back, you may
find their comments on the revised versions.
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Titus G
2019-07-02 20:56:35 UTC
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A few days ago, I finished "The Thrones of Kronos" the 5th & final
entry in the Exordium series. I enjoyed this series,
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Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>
This was one of my favorite series: From high tragedy to low humor, all
done with a certain dash & verve.
Given the number of books you read, I will add these to my TBR list and
hopefully thank you both later.
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2019-07-02 22:40:02 UTC
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A few days ago, I finished "The Thrones of Kronos" the 5th & final
entry in the Exordium series. I enjoyed this series,
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Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>
This was one of my favorite series: From high tragedy to low humor, all
done with a certain dash & verve.
Given the number of books you read, I will add these to my TBR list and
hopefully thank you both later.
I don't know why these weren't huge hits.

Please do chime in when you finish.
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Titus G
2019-08-07 04:23:51 UTC
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A few days ago, I finished "The Thrones of Kronos" the 5th & final
entry in the Exordium series. I enjoyed this series,
snip
Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>
This was one of my favorite series: From high tragedy to low humor, all
done with a certain dash & verve.
Given the number of books you read, I will add these to my TBR list and
hopefully thank you both later.
I don't know why these weren't huge hits.
They are for me. I love the continuing suspense and tension between all
the splinter groups within all the 3 main categories, (Panarchy,
Dohl'jarian and Rifter). Sherwood and Towbridge have a huge joint
vocabulary, construct great sentences and the mainly linear time line
interrupted by necessary history is still attention grabbing because of
the shorter sections within chapters frequently changing perspectives
and/or places but the icing for me is the differing viewpoints
consistent with the background, personality and motivations of such a
large number of characters. Brilliant. I am competent at online Poker
but mediocre at the table as I am not skilled at reading others so the
continual interpreting of body language, choice of words, tonal
differences and more is still fascinating after more than roughly 1500
pages.
Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Please do chime in when you finish.
Can't wait. (Might not be so positive then.)
The overall plot appears simple enough given the jigsaw puzzle pieces
shown already though it is complicated by the supernatural aspect so I
am expecting a rocky road to the lives happily ever after part but some
of these kissed frogs I am emotionally attached to won't be there. I do
have some negatives but please consider them minor.
I am using the search feature in the Kindle to cheat and to aid memory
with another Kindle next to me with the previous book open. And
sometimes a diversion to the book before.
In one instance a whole group of characters were introduced as my new
best friends only to be killed off after I had gone to the trouble of
learning their ridiculously long names*. I was clearly manipulated.
So now at each new influx of characters, I do a search on the name; 2
pages of results, forget the name, 20 pages of results, read the name
again. A list of characters would have been helpful.

(* A basis of Panarchic rule is that symbols and rituals form the basis
of cooperation for obedience to the ruler's will. In the same way the
ridiculously long and complicated names and honorifics lend a solemn
tone to catfights for power and influence.)

Testing my credibility.
Behaviour resulting in an altercation with the Syndicates.
You know who's perfection.
The Supernatural stuff (but that is always my view despite accepting
lapses in physics laws.)

More chiming to come.
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2019-08-07 04:40:24 UTC
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A few days ago, I finished "The Thrones of Kronos" the 5th & final
entry in the Exordium series. I enjoyed this series,
snip
Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>
This was one of my favorite series: From high tragedy to low humor, all
done with a certain dash & verve.
Given the number of books you read, I will add these to my TBR list and
hopefully thank you both later.
I don't know why these weren't huge hits.
They are for me. I love the continuing suspense and tension between all
the splinter groups within all the 3 main categories, (Panarchy,
Dohl'jarian and Rifter). Sherwood and Towbridge have a huge joint
vocabulary, construct great sentences and the mainly linear time line
interrupted by necessary history is still attention grabbing because of
the shorter sections within chapters frequently changing perspectives
and/or places but the icing for me is the differing viewpoints
consistent with the background, personality and motivations of such a
large number of characters. Brilliant. I am competent at online Poker
but mediocre at the table as I am not skilled at reading others so the
continual interpreting of body language, choice of words, tonal
differences and more is still fascinating after more than roughly 1500
pages.
Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Please do chime in when you finish.
Can't wait. (Might not be so positive then.)
The overall plot appears simple enough given the jigsaw puzzle pieces
shown already though it is complicated by the supernatural aspect so I
am expecting a rocky road to the lives happily ever after part but some
of these kissed frogs I am emotionally attached to won't be there. I do
have some negatives but please consider them minor.
I am using the search feature in the Kindle to cheat and to aid memory
with another Kindle next to me with the previous book open. And
sometimes a diversion to the book before.
In one instance a whole group of characters were introduced as my new
best friends only to be killed off after I had gone to the trouble of
learning their ridiculously long names*. I was clearly manipulated.
So now at each new influx of characters, I do a search on the name; 2
pages of results, forget the name, 20 pages of results, read the name
again. A list of characters would have been helpful.
(* A basis of Panarchic rule is that symbols and rituals form the basis
of cooperation for obedience to the ruler's will. In the same way the
ridiculously long and complicated names and honorifics lend a solemn
tone to catfights for power and influence.)
Testing my credibility.
Behaviour resulting in an altercation with the Syndicates.
You know who's perfection.
The Supernatural stuff (but that is always my view despite accepting
lapses in physics laws.)
More chiming to come.
I've really got to put the revised books onto the to-read pile.
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t***@gmail.com
2019-07-03 11:12:52 UTC
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A few days ago, I finished "The Thrones of Kronos" the 5th & final
entry in the Exordium series. I enjoyed this series,
snip
Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>
This was one of my favorite series: From high tragedy to low humor, all
done with a certain dash & verve.
Given the number of books you read, I will add these to my TBR list and
hopefully thank you both later.
I don't know if my experience will be relevant to yours, but I found the first one
was hard to get into. Not just slow getting going (which it was), but the authors
laid it on pretty heavy making sure we knew just how bad The Bad Guys are.
Once I got used to it, it was pretty darn good.

Tony
Titus G
2019-07-10 05:53:12 UTC
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A few days ago, I finished "The Thrones of Kronos" the 5th &
final entry in the Exordium series. I enjoyed this series,
snip
This was one of my favorite series: From high tragedy to low
humor, all done with a certain dash & verve.
Given the number of books you read, I will add these to my TBR list
and hopefully thank you both later.
I don't know if my experience will be relevant to yours, but I found
the first one was hard to get into. Not just slow getting going
(which it was), but the authors laid it on pretty heavy making sure
we knew just how bad The Bad Guys are. Once I got used to it, it was
pretty darn good.
Tony
I have read a few chapters of The Phoenix in Flight and am enjoying the
writing but have been overwhelmed by the difficult names and honorifics
of people and names of places. This has caused some confusion requiring
some rereading but the political background, intrigues and characters
seem to be developing very quickly and I am looking forward to reading more.
Titus G
2019-07-15 03:42:14 UTC
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A few days ago, I finished "The Thrones of Kronos" the 5th &
final entry in the Exordium series. I enjoyed this series,
snip
This was one of my favorite series: From high tragedy to low
humor, all done with a certain dash & verve.
Given the number of books you read, I will add these to my TBR list
and hopefully thank you both later.
I don't know if my experience will be relevant to yours, but I found
the first one was hard to get into. Not just slow getting going
(which it was), but the authors laid it on pretty heavy making sure
we knew just how bad The Bad Guys are. Once I got used to it, it was
pretty darn good.
Tony
I have read a few chapters of The Phoenix in Flight and am enjoying the
writing but have been overwhelmed by the difficult names and honorifics
of people and names of places.
“His Royal Highness, the Krysarch Brandon Takari Burgess Njoye Willam su
Gelasaar y Ilara nyr Arkad de Mandala!”

There is a lot of detail and although enjoyable whilst reading it is too
easily forgettable as are the named "Redshirts".

I like the words they invent such as nonauz, the handheld spray to
prevent vomiting in a space suit, and slubs, inferior manual workers,
and I have had to look up many new words such as:
fulgent
benison
tenebrous
decretal
hecatomb
all of which will shortly be forgotten.

But I am enjoying book 1 more than you. It is pretty darn good.
t***@gmail.com
2019-07-15 11:13:49 UTC
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A few days ago, I finished "The Thrones of Kronos" the 5th &
final entry in the Exordium series. I enjoyed this series,
snip
This was one of my favorite series: From high tragedy to low
humor, all done with a certain dash & verve.
Given the number of books you read, I will add these to my TBR list
and hopefully thank you both later.
I don't know if my experience will be relevant to yours, but I found
the first one was hard to get into. Not just slow getting going
(which it was), but the authors laid it on pretty heavy making sure
we knew just how bad The Bad Guys are. Once I got used to it, it was
pretty darn good.
Tony
I have read a few chapters of The Phoenix in Flight and am enjoying the
writing but have been overwhelmed by the difficult names and honorifics
of people and names of places.
“His Royal Highness, the Krysarch Brandon Takari Burgess Njoye Willam su
Gelasaar y Ilara nyr Arkad de Mandala!”
There is a lot of detail and although enjoyable whilst reading it is too
easily forgettable as are the named "Redshirts".
I like the words they invent such as nonauz, the handheld spray to
prevent vomiting in a space suit, and slubs, inferior manual workers,
fulgent
benison
tenebrous
decretal
hecatomb
all of which will shortly be forgotten.
But I am enjoying book 1 more than you. It is pretty darn good.
Oh good - I am glad to hear that; and (to me) it gets better as you go along.
- Tony
Titus G
2019-07-23 04:06:35 UTC
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On 15/07/19 11:13 PM, ***@gmail.com wrote:

the authors laid it on pretty heavy making sure
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we knew just how bad The Bad Guys are.
“Your culture holds that the fear of death is the greatest pang. We of
Dol’jhar know this to be false.”
Robert Carnegie
2019-07-23 19:15:13 UTC
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the authors laid it on pretty heavy making sure
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we knew just how bad The Bad Guys are.
“Your culture holds that the fear of death is the greatest pang. We of
Dol’jhar know this to be false.”
"They do say, Mrs M, that verbal insults hurt more
than physical pain. They are, of course, wrong,
as you will soon discover when I stick this
toasting fork into your head."
Titus G
2019-07-25 04:56:01 UTC
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the authors laid it on pretty heavy making sure
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we knew just how bad The Bad Guys are.
“Your culture holds that the fear of death is the greatest pang. We of
Dol’jhar know this to be false.”
"They do say, Mrs M, that verbal insults hurt more
than physical pain. They are, of course, wrong,
as you will soon discover when I stick this
toasting fork into your head."
Toasting fork in head? LUXURY.
t***@gmail.com
2019-07-26 15:09:13 UTC
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the authors laid it on pretty heavy making sure
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we knew just how bad The Bad Guys are.
“Your culture holds that the fear of death is the greatest pang. We of
Dol’jhar know this to be false.”
Yes, exactly!

So how did you like book #1?
- Tony
Titus G
2019-07-26 20:09:08 UTC
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the authors laid it on pretty heavy making sure
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we knew just how bad The Bad Guys are.
“Your culture holds that the fear of death is the greatest pang. We of
Dol’jhar know this to be false.”
Yes, exactly!
So how did you like book #1?
- Tony
Brilliant. Easy 4 stars. More later.
Dorothy J Heydt
2019-07-15 14:46:31 UTC
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A few days ago, I finished "The Thrones of Kronos" the 5th &
final entry in the Exordium series. I enjoyed this series,
snip
This was one of my favorite series: From high tragedy to low
humor, all done with a certain dash & verve.
Given the number of books you read, I will add these to my TBR list
and hopefully thank you both later.
I don't know if my experience will be relevant to yours, but I found
the first one was hard to get into. Not just slow getting going
(which it was), but the authors laid it on pretty heavy making sure
we knew just how bad The Bad Guys are. Once I got used to it, it was
pretty darn good.
Tony
I have read a few chapters of The Phoenix in Flight and am enjoying the
writing but have been overwhelmed by the difficult names and honorifics
of people and names of places.
“His Royal Highness, the Krysarch Brandon Takari Burgess Njoye Willam su
Gelasaar y Ilara nyr Arkad de Mandala!”
There is a lot of detail and although enjoyable whilst reading it is too
easily forgettable as are the named "Redshirts".
I like the words they invent such as nonauz, the handheld spray to
prevent vomiting in a space suit, and slubs, inferior manual workers,
fulgent
benison
tenebrous
decretal
hecatomb
all of which will shortly be forgotten.
I know all of those.

The time I had to look up words was with Brin's _The Uplift War._
There were words I didn't have to look up, such as "atrichic"
(hairless) and "bromopnean" (having stinky breath), neither of
which I had seen before, nor were they in any dictionary I could
find, but I could figure them out from the Greek roots.

Both terms applied to humans by other species.
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Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Gene Wirchenko
2019-07-15 22:14:25 UTC
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Heydt) wrote:

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I know all of those.
I am topped.
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
The time I had to look up words was with Brin's _The Uplift War._
There were words I didn't have to look up, such as "atrichic"
(hairless) and "bromopnean" (having stinky breath), neither of
which I had seen before, nor were they in any dictionary I could
find, but I could figure them out from the Greek roots.
Both terms applied to humans by other species.
Odd words can be interesting. My favourite, in that sense, is
"ascii" which means those who do not cast a shadow. Do not confuse it
with "ASCII", the character set.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2019-07-15 22:23:39 UTC
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I know all of those.
I am topped.
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
The time I had to look up words was with Brin's _The Uplift War._
There were words I didn't have to look up, such as "atrichic"
(hairless) and "bromopnean" (having stinky breath), neither of
which I had seen before, nor were they in any dictionary I could
find, but I could figure them out from the Greek roots.
Both terms applied to humans by other species.
Odd words can be interesting. My favourite, in that sense, is
"ascii" which means those who do not cast a shadow. Do not confuse it
with "ASCII", the character set.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
So is that like vampires or the forgotten of history?
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David Goldfarb
2019-07-16 03:31:28 UTC
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fulgent
benison
tenebrous
decretal
hecatomb
all of which will shortly be forgotten.
I know all of those.
I know them also, except for "decretal". Honestly, I wouldn't have
thought that "benison" or "hecatomb" were even particularly obscure.
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
The time I had to look up words was with Brin's _The Uplift War._
There were words I didn't have to look up, such as "atrichic"
(hairless) and "bromopnean" (having stinky breath), neither of
which I had seen before, nor were they in any dictionary I could
find, but I could figure them out from the Greek roots.
I recall that. I was 19 when the book came out, and didn't have
enough Greek to work them out on my own. I finally settled for
just being mystified.
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***@ocf.berkeley.edu | immediately and incurably insane."
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Titus G
2019-07-23 04:06:41 UTC
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fulgent
benison
tenebrous
decretal
hecatomb
all of which will shortly be forgotten.
I know all of those.
Some more.

descry
clerestory
cicatrices
prodromal

Is "blunge" an invention or slang? (Servants followed the dogs with
blunge-scoops.)
Kevrob
2019-07-23 04:25:01 UTC
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fulgent
benison
tenebrous
decretal
hecatomb
all of which will shortly be forgotten.
I know all of those.
Some more.
descry
clerestory
cicatrices
prodromal
Is "blunge" an invention or slang? (Servants followed the dogs with
blunge-scoops.)
It's a word, but, perhaps a euphemism, in context?

https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/blunge

Kevin R
Titus G
2019-07-25 05:37:37 UTC
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fulgent
benison
tenebrous
decretal
hecatomb
all of which will shortly be forgotten.
I know all of those.
Some more.
descry
clerestory
cicatrices
prodromal
Is "blunge" an invention or slang? (Servants followed the dogs with
blunge-scoops.)
It's a word, but, perhaps a euphemism, in context?
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/blunge
Kevin R
Yes. It is still being used in book two; several times in different
contexts in all of which, fecal matter fits. There are a lot of made-up
words, many of them expressing a variety of things, behaviours and more,
of aliens and of different galactic planetary backgrounds but many that
appear to be English or 'Earth' which are not in the internal Kindle
dictionary.
There is an element of Graydon Saunder's technique of telling you
incomprehensible stuff that you don't understand till later on on that
page or in the chapter, (or in Saunder's case, the next book? :-)), but
of far shorter delay and of far less emphasis. Even incomprehensible
words which might represent rituals are used as if I have known them
since Sunday School. It has been confusing sometimes but as when reading
Saunders, you learn patience.
Dorothy J Heydt
2019-07-23 04:50:16 UTC
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fulgent
benison
tenebrous
decretal
hecatomb
all of which will shortly be forgotten.
I know all of those.
Some more.
descry
clerestory
cicatrices
prodromal
Yup, I know those too. "Prodromal" is used, _inter alia_, to
describe symptoms that precede (and herald) a migraine attack.
(Translates as "running before.")
Post by Titus G
Is "blunge" an invention or slang? (Servants followed the dogs with
blunge-scoops.)
That one I had to look up. It's a verb: to mix something with water.
to mix e.g. water and clay to form slip.

I was not able to find it as a noun, but if any noun can be
verbed, then most verbs can be nouned, and one can get an idea of
the meaning of the noun as you use it.
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Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Titus G
2019-08-07 04:54:33 UTC
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I like the words they invent such as nonauz, the handheld spray to
prevent vomiting in a space suit, and slubs, inferior manual
workers, and I have had to look up many new words such as: fulgent
benison tenebrous decretal hecatomb all of which will shortly be
forgotten.
I know all of those.
The time I had to look up words was with Brin's _The Uplift War._
There were words I didn't have to look up, such as "atrichic"
(hairless) and "bromopnean" (having stinky breath), neither of which
I had seen before, nor were they in any dictionary I could find, but
I could figure them out from the Greek roots.
Both terms applied to humans by other species.
There are plenty of invented words that may be explained later such as
"That Telos-damned bitch!" or literature based such as to jeeve, to be
invisible until required.

Some more for you.
anamnesis
lambent
torc
limned
coruscant
vitrine
coeval
peristalsis
polysemous
irenic
encomium
epicene
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2019-08-07 05:38:26 UTC
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Post by Titus G
There are plenty of invented words that may be explained later such as
"That Telos-damned bitch!" or literature based such as to jeeve, to be
invisible until required.
Some more for you.
anamnesis
lambent
torc
limned
coruscant
vitrine
coeval
peristalsis
polysemous
irenic
encomium
epicene
Lambent is an old Doc Smith friend, as is the near cognate to coruscant,
'coruscating'

I have been fortunate enough to avoid reverse peristalsis for the last 30
or so years.
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Dorothy J Heydt
2019-08-07 06:27:30 UTC
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Post by Titus G
There are plenty of invented words that may be explained later such as
"That Telos-damned bitch!" or literature based such as to jeeve, to be
invisible until required.
Some more for you.
anamnesis
lambent
torc
limned
coruscant
vitrine
coeval
peristalsis
polysemous
irenic
encomium
epicene
Lambent is an old Doc Smith friend, as is the near cognate to coruscant,
'coruscating'
I have been fortunate enough to avoid reverse peristalsis for the last 30
or so years.
You bettah off.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Dorothy J Heydt
2019-08-07 06:26:54 UTC
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I like the words they invent such as nonauz, the handheld spray to
prevent vomiting in a space suit, and slubs, inferior manual
workers, and I have had to look up many new words such as: fulgent
benison tenebrous decretal hecatomb all of which will shortly be
forgotten.
I know all of those.
The time I had to look up words was with Brin's _The Uplift War._
There were words I didn't have to look up, such as "atrichic"
(hairless) and "bromopnean" (having stinky breath), neither of which
I had seen before, nor were they in any dictionary I could find, but
I could figure them out from the Greek roots.
Both terms applied to humans by other species.
There are plenty of invented words that may be explained later such as
"That Telos-damned bitch!" or literature based such as to jeeve, to be
invisible until required.
Some more for you.
anamnesis
lambent
torc
limned
coruscant
vitrine
coeval
peristalsis
polysemous
irenic
encomium
epicene
I had to look up "anamnesis" and "polysemous". "Remembering
things from a supposed previous existence" and "of a word, that
it has many meanings".
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Robert Carnegie
2019-08-07 08:31:03 UTC
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I like the words they invent such as nonauz, the handheld spray to
prevent vomiting in a space suit, and slubs, inferior manual
workers, and I have had to look up many new words such as: fulgent
benison tenebrous decretal hecatomb all of which will shortly be
forgotten.
I know all of those.
The time I had to look up words was with Brin's _The Uplift War._
There were words I didn't have to look up, such as "atrichic"
(hairless) and "bromopnean" (having stinky breath), neither of which
I had seen before, nor were they in any dictionary I could find, but
I could figure them out from the Greek roots.
Both terms applied to humans by other species.
There are plenty of invented words that may be explained later such as
"That Telos-damned bitch!" or literature based such as to jeeve, to be
invisible until required.
Some more for you.
anamnesis
lambent
torc
limned
coruscant
vitrine
coeval
peristalsis
polysemous
irenic
encomium
epicene
I had to look up "anamnesis"
Oh, get your secretary to do that :-)
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and "polysemous".
He was a big bloke, wasn't he?
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
"Remembering
things from a supposed previous existence" and "of a word, that
it has many meanings".
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Kevrob
2019-08-07 11:56:28 UTC
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I like the words they invent such as nonauz, the handheld spray to
prevent vomiting in a space suit, and slubs, inferior manual
workers, and I have had to look up many new words such as: fulgent
benison tenebrous decretal hecatomb all of which will shortly be
forgotten.
I know all of those.
The time I had to look up words was with Brin's _The Uplift War._
There were words I didn't have to look up, such as "atrichic"
(hairless) and "bromopnean" (having stinky breath), neither of which
I had seen before, nor were they in any dictionary I could find, but
I could figure them out from the Greek roots.
Both terms applied to humans by other species.
There are plenty of invented words that may be explained later such as
"That Telos-damned bitch!" or literature based such as to jeeve, to be
invisible until required.
Some more for you.
anamnesis
lambent
torc
Julian May, "The Golden Torc,"
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limned
Remember Lalo the Limner from "Thieves' World?"
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coruscant
vitrine
coeval
peristalsis
polysemous
irenic
Wm F Buckley's remark, when asked why he used this instead
instead of "peaceful" - "I needed another syllable."
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encomium
A good alternative to "speech" when you want to be specific.
Compare to eulogy, but the subject doesn't have to die!
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epicene
A word that might make a comeback, if allowed by the
Shame Police.
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I had to look up "anamnesis"
Oh, get your secretary to do that :-)
..or your amanuensis!
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and "polysemous".
He was a big bloke, wasn't he?
Had a good eye, too.
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"Remembering
things from a supposed previous existence" and "of a word, that
it has many meanings".
"To jeeve" is just brilliant.

Kevin R
Dorothy J Heydt
2019-08-07 14:44:22 UTC
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I like the words they invent such as nonauz, the handheld spray to
prevent vomiting in a space suit, and slubs, inferior manual
workers, and I have had to look up many new words such as: fulgent
benison tenebrous decretal hecatomb all of which will shortly be
forgotten.
I know all of those.
The time I had to look up words was with Brin's _The Uplift War._
There were words I didn't have to look up, such as "atrichic"
(hairless) and "bromopnean" (having stinky breath), neither of which
I had seen before, nor were they in any dictionary I could find, but
I could figure them out from the Greek roots.
Both terms applied to humans by other species.
There are plenty of invented words that may be explained later such as
"That Telos-damned bitch!" or literature based such as to jeeve, to be
invisible until required.
Some more for you.
anamnesis
lambent
torc
limned
coruscant
vitrine
coeval
peristalsis
polysemous
irenic
encomium
epicene
I had to look up "anamnesis"
Oh, get your secretary to do that :-)
You're thinking of "amanuensis."
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Post by Dorothy J Heydt
and "polysemous".
He was a big bloke, wasn't he?
You're thinking of "Polyphemus."
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2019-08-07 16:00:43 UTC
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I like the words they invent such as nonauz, the handheld spray to
prevent vomiting in a space suit, and slubs, inferior manual
workers, and I have had to look up many new words such as: fulgent
benison tenebrous decretal hecatomb all of which will shortly be
forgotten.
I know all of those.
The time I had to look up words was with Brin's _The Uplift War._
There were words I didn't have to look up, such as "atrichic"
(hairless) and "bromopnean" (having stinky breath), neither of which
I had seen before, nor were they in any dictionary I could find, but
I could figure them out from the Greek roots.
Both terms applied to humans by other species.
There are plenty of invented words that may be explained later such as
"That Telos-damned bitch!" or literature based such as to jeeve, to be
invisible until required.
Some more for you.
anamnesis
lambent
torc
limned
coruscant
vitrine
coeval
peristalsis
polysemous
irenic
encomium
epicene
I had to look up "anamnesis"
Oh, get your secretary to do that :-)
You're thinking of "amanuensis."
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Post by Dorothy J Heydt
and "polysemous".
He was a big bloke, wasn't he?
You're thinking of "Polyphemus."
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
And just for completeness: 'coruscant' with a capital 'C' is the capital of
the Star Wars Republic & Empire. Or was, I think it maybe blowed up real good
recently.
--
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What's not in Columbia anymore..
William Hyde
2019-07-15 22:49:51 UTC
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A few days ago, I finished "The Thrones of Kronos" the 5th &
final entry in the Exordium series. I enjoyed this series,
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This was one of my favorite series: From high tragedy to low
humor, all done with a certain dash & verve.
Given the number of books you read, I will add these to my TBR list
and hopefully thank you both later.
I don't know if my experience will be relevant to yours, but I found
the first one was hard to get into. Not just slow getting going
(which it was), but the authors laid it on pretty heavy making sure
we knew just how bad The Bad Guys are. Once I got used to it, it was
pretty darn good.
Tony
I have read a few chapters of The Phoenix in Flight and am enjoying the
writing but have been overwhelmed by the difficult names and honorifics
of people and names of places.
“His Royal Highness, the Krysarch Brandon Takari Burgess Njoye Willam su
Gelasaar y Ilara nyr Arkad de Mandala!”
There is a lot of detail and although enjoyable whilst reading it is too
easily forgettable as are the named "Redshirts".
I like the words they invent such as nonauz, the handheld spray to
prevent vomiting in a space suit, and slubs, inferior manual workers,
fulgent
benison
tenebrous
decretal
hecatomb
all of which will shortly be forgotten.
If you read Jack Vance you'll get plenty of practice with them.

William Hyde
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