Discussion:
"Despite Hurricanes Harvey and Irma, science has no idea if climate change is causing more (or fewer) powerful hurricanes"
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David Hartung
2017-09-09 21:59:47 UTC
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or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx

[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]

The foolishness never seems to end.
Matt
2017-09-09 22:16:38 UTC
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or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.

Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not, or whether his followers are absolute morons.

Yep, these things are hard to determine.
David Hartung
2017-09-09 22:21:29 UTC
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or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not, or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than it
does his.
Matt
2017-09-09 22:30:12 UTC
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or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not, or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than it
does his.
Sure.

After all, given a million dollars, I couldn't start a successful business. Nor drive it into the ground and bankrupt it.

But I'm sure you could.

Matt
David Hartung
2017-09-09 22:32:10 UTC
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or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not, or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than it
does his.
Sure.
After all, given a million dollars, I couldn't start a successful business. Nor drive it into the ground and bankrupt it.
But I'm sure you could.
Once again you demonstrate your own lack of intellect.
Matt
2017-09-09 22:35:34 UTC
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or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not, or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than it
does his.
Sure.
After all, given a million dollars, I couldn't start a successful business. Nor drive it into the ground and bankrupt it.
But I'm sure you could.
Once again you demonstrate your own lack of intellect.
And you refuse to address the facts.

Did Donald "Cheeto" Trump get a million dollars to start his business?

Yep.

Did he drive them into the ground and declare bankruptcy over and over?

Yep.

Did he fail utterly and have to be bailed out by Russians who forced him to run for office?

Yep.

Did you vote for a Russian Mole?

Yep.

Are you a traitor?

Yep.

Matt
David Hartung
2017-09-09 22:54:56 UTC
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or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not, or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than it
does his.
Sure.
After all, given a million dollars, I couldn't start a successful business. Nor drive it into the ground and bankrupt it.
But I'm sure you could.
Once again you demonstrate your own lack of intellect.
And you refuse to address the facts.
Did Donald "Cheeto" Trump get a million dollars to start his business?
Trump graduated from college with a net worth of about a half million
dollars, currently he is estimated to have a net worth of about 3.5
billion. I believe that his business acumen is proven.
Post by Matt
Yep.
Did he drive them into the ground and declare bankruptcy over and over?
Yep.
How many if Trump's businesses went into bakruptcy, vs how many did he
own at the time?
Post by Matt
Did he fail utterly and have to be bailed out by Russians who forced him to run for office?
Yep.
Prove it.
Post by Matt
Did you vote for a Russian Mole?
Yep.
Prove it.
Post by Matt
Are you a traitor?
Yep.
Prove it.
Hale Hardy
2017-09-10 02:03:49 UTC
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or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or
not, or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than it
does his.
Sure.
After all, given a million dollars, I couldn't start a successful
business. Nor drive it into the ground and bankrupt it.
But I'm sure you could.
Once again you demonstrate your own lack of intellect.
And you refuse to address the facts.
Did Donald "Cheeto" Trump get a million dollars to start his business?
Trump graduated from college with a net worth of about a half million
dollars, currently he is estimated to have a net worth of about 3.5
billion. I believe that his business acumen is proven.
You also believe gays are looking for special rights.

Forbes estimates he’s worth $190 million. Since he inherited $100 million
and no bank in this country will lend him money, his “business acumen” is
suspect at best.
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Post by Matt
Yep.
Did he drive them into the ground and declare bankruptcy over and over?
Yep.
How many if Trump's businesses went into bakruptcy, vs how many did he
own at the time?
His companies have gone into bankruptcy four times, including a casino. His
business failures are legion.
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Post by Matt
Did he fail utterly and have to be bailed out by Russians who forced him
to run for office?
Yep.
Prove it.
It is estimated that he owes Russian banks about $600 million. He DOES owe
Deutschebank at least that much. Although Germany doesn’t own that one.
Russian oligarchs Control Russian banks.
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Post by Matt
Did you vote for a Russian Mole?
Yep.
Prove it.
Coming soon. Read “The Plot to Hack America” by Malcolm Nance. Then, look
up the word “Kompromat.” It’s clear Trump is a Russian asset.

And before you call people “liberals,” Malcolm Nance is a lifelong
Republican.
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Are you a traitor?
Yep.
Prove it.
--
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Mitchell Holman
2017-09-10 02:05:46 UTC
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or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for
climate alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen.
Politico's Eric Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen,
decades ago." Naomi Klein stated "these events have long been
predicted by climate scientists." Joe Romm at ThinkProgress
wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the kind of
off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so
ludicrous, at least as regards the connection between global
warming and tropical cyclones. A settled theory makes specific
predictions that can, in principle, be tested against observed
data. A theory that only yields vague, untestable predictions
is, at best, a work in progress. [...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or
not, or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part
than it does his.
Sure.
After all, given a million dollars, I couldn't start a successful
business. Nor drive it into the ground and bankrupt it.
But I'm sure you could.
Once again you demonstrate your own lack of intellect.
And you refuse to address the facts.
Did Donald "Cheeto" Trump get a million dollars to start his
business?
Trump graduated from college with a net worth of about a half million
dollars,
Wrong. Upon graduation is daddy GAVE him
$1 million to play with. That is hardly earned
money.
Post by David Hartung
currently he is estimated to have a net worth of about 3.5
billion. I believe that his business acumen is proven.
If he has so much "business acumen" why doen't
he pay his creditors instead of stiffing them in
bankruptcy court?
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Post by Matt
Yep.
Did he drive them into the ground and declare bankruptcy over and over?
Yep.
How many if Trump's businesses went into bakruptcy, vs how many did he
own at the time?
Bankruptcy No. 1: The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991

He funded the construction of the $1 billion
Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, N.J.,
which opened in 1990, primarily with junk bonds
at a whopping 14 percent interest. A year later,
the casino was nearly $3 billion in debt, while
Trump had racked up nearly $900 million in
personal liabilities. So Trump decided to file
for Chapter 11 reorganization, according to the
New York Times.



Bankruptcy No. 2: Trump Castle, 1992

Within a year of his first Chapter 11 filing,
Trump found himself in bankruptcy court again
for Trump Castle, which opened in 1985.



Bankruptcy No. 3: Trump Plaza and Casino, 1992

A $210 million joint project of Trump’s and Harrah’s,
the casino had racked up $250 million in debt by 1992,
after a staggering 80 percent decline in cash flow.
So Trump Plaza filed for prepackaged bankruptcy that
spring as well.



Bankruptcy No. 4: Plaza Hotel, 1992

Later that year, Trump filed bankruptcy on another
Plaza, this one in New York. Trump purchased the
Plaza Hotel in Midtown Manhattan for $390 million
in 1988, but it accumulated more than $550 million
in debt by 1992.



Bankruptcy No. 5: Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, 2004

Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts filed for
bankruptcy again in 2004 when his casinos --
including the Trump Taj Mahal, Trump Marina
and Trump Plaza casinos in Atlantic City, and
a riverboat casino in Indiana -- had accrued
an estimated $1.8 billion in debt, according
to the Associated Press.



Bankruptcy No. 6: Trump Entertainment Resorts, 2009

Trump Entertainment Resorts -- formerly Trump
Hotels and Casinos Resorts -- was hit hard by
the 2008 economic recession and missed a $53.1
million bond interest payment in December 2008,
according to ABC News. It declared Chapter 11
in February 2009.

http://tinyurl.com/j27fvh8
super70s
2017-09-10 03:05:00 UTC
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How many if Trump's businesses went into bakruptcy, vs how many did
he own at the time?
Bankruptcy No. 1: The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991
He funded the construction of the $1 billion
Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, N.J.,
which opened in 1990, primarily with junk bonds
at a whopping 14 percent interest. A year later,
the casino was nearly $3 billion in debt, while
Trump had racked up nearly $900 million in
personal liabilities. So Trump decided to file
for Chapter 11 reorganization, according to the
New York Times.
Bankruptcy No. 3: Trump Plaza and Casino, 1992
A $210 million joint project of Trump‚s and Harrah‚s,
the casino had racked up $250 million in debt by 1992,
after a staggering 80 percent decline in cash flow.
So Trump Plaza filed for prepackaged bankruptcy that
spring as well.
Bankruptcy No. 5: Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, 2004
Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts filed for
bankruptcy again in 2004 when his casinos --
including the Trump Taj Mahal, Trump Marina
and Trump Plaza casinos in Atlantic City, and
a riverboat casino in Indiana -- had accrued
an estimated $1.8 billion in debt, according
to the Associated Press.
Only a complete screw-up can manage a series of hotel casinos --
normally wildly profitable enterprises -- into bankruptcy (or be foolish
enough to pay too much for them to begin with).
Matt
2017-09-10 10:19:50 UTC
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or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not, or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than it
does his.
Sure.
After all, given a million dollars, I couldn't start a successful business. Nor drive it into the ground and bankrupt it.
But I'm sure you could.
Once again you demonstrate your own lack of intellect.
And you refuse to address the facts.
Did Donald "Cheeto" Trump get a million dollars to start his business?
Trump graduated from college with a net worth of about a half million
dollars, currently he is estimated to have a net worth of about 3.5
billion. I believe that his business acumen is proven.
Post by Matt
Yep.
Did he drive them into the ground and declare bankruptcy over and over?
Yep.
How many if Trump's businesses went into bakruptcy, vs how many did he
own at the time?
Failure is failure. He failed. Over and over and over. And got bailed out.
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Did he fail utterly and have to be bailed out by Russians who forced him to run for office?
Yep.
Prove it.
<LAUGH>

Robert Mueller is doing that job for me, thanks.
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Post by Matt
Did you vote for a Russian Mole?
Yep.
Prove it.
See above.
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Post by Matt
Are you a traitor?
Yep.
Prove it.
No, I don't think so. As I said, I speak only to adults from now on. You lost that status.

Matt
Hale Hardy
2017-09-10 01:53:48 UTC
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or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not,
or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than it
does his.
Sure.
After all, given a million dollars, I couldn't start a successful
business. Nor drive it into the ground and bankrupt it.
But I'm sure you could.
Once again you demonstrate your own lack of intellect.
How’s that? Most people who are given $1 million start successful
businesses. Prove us wrong.
--
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David Hartung
2017-09-10 02:14:41 UTC
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or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not,
or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than it
does his.
Sure.
After all, given a million dollars, I couldn't start a successful
business. Nor drive it into the ground and bankrupt it.
But I'm sure you could.
Once again you demonstrate your own lack of intellect.
How’s that? Most people who are given $1 million start successful
businesses. Prove us wrong.
A loan which was repaid:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/donald-trump-father-loan-1-million-dollars-215154
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2017-09-10 01:53:47 UTC
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or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not,
or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than it
does his.
Sure.
After all, given a million dollars, I couldn't start a successful
business. Nor drive it into the ground and bankrupt it.
But I'm sure you could.
Matt
The first $ million was a loan.

When his father died, he inherited another $100 million.

Now, no one in the US will loan him money.

Trump is a con man.
--
There is no one dumber than a Trump Supporter
David Hartung
2017-09-10 02:22:38 UTC
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Post by Hale Hardy
Post by Matt
Post by David Hartung
Post by Matt
Post by David Hartung
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/despite-hurricanes-harvey-and-irma-science-has-no-idea-if-climate-change-is-causing-more-or-fewer-powerful-hurricanes/article/2633521
or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not,
or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than it
does his.
Sure.
After all, given a million dollars, I couldn't start a successful
business. Nor drive it into the ground and bankrupt it.
But I'm sure you could.
Matt
The first $ million was a loan.
When his father died, he inherited another $100 million.
what was trump's net worth when his father died? Keep in mind that Dad
died less than 20 years ago.
Hale Hardy
2017-09-10 01:53:46 UTC
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Post by David Hartung
Post by Matt
Post by David Hartung
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/despite-hurricanes-harvey-and-irma-science-has-no-idea-if-climate-change-is-causing-more-or-fewer-powerful-hurricanes/article/2633521
or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not,
or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than it
does his.
Please list these successful businesses. I’ll then list the failures. Let’s
see which list is longer.

Trump went bankrupt on a casino. Do you realize how hard that is?
--
There is no one dumber than a Trump Supporter
David Hartung
2017-09-10 02:33:22 UTC
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Post by Hale Hardy
Post by David Hartung
Post by Matt
Post by David Hartung
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/despite-hurricanes-harvey-and-irma-science-has-no-idea-if-climate-change-is-causing-more-or-fewer-powerful-hurricanes/article/2633521
or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not,
or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than it
does his.
Please list these successful businesses. I’ll then list the failures. Let’s
see which list is longer.
Trump went bankrupt on a casino. Do you realize how hard that is?
Yes the President has had his failures, as has everybody. In the end
Trump's business acumen has managed to make him very wealthy, no matter
what you choose to believe.
Mitchell Holman
2017-09-10 02:58:54 UTC
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Post by David Hartung
Post by David Hartung
Post by Matt
Post by David Hartung
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/despite-hurricanes-harvey-and-irm
a-science-has-no-idea-if-climate-change-is-causing-more-or-fewer-po
werful-hurricanes/article/2633521
or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's
Eric Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago."
Naomi Klein stated "these events have long been predicted by
climate scientists." Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is
that Harvey is exactly the kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can
expect to see more often because of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so
ludicrous, at least as regards the connection between global
warming and tropical cyclones. A settled theory makes specific
predictions that can, in principle, be tested against observed
data. A theory that only yields vague, untestable predictions is,
at best, a work in progress. [...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or
not, or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses, a
complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your part than
it does his.
Please list these successful businesses. I’ll then list the
failures. Let’s see which list is longer.
Trump went bankrupt on a casino. Do you realize how hard that is?
Yes the President has had his failures, as has everybody. In the end
Trump's business acumen has managed to make him very wealthy, no
matter what you choose to believe.
Anyone can "get very wealthy" by running up large
debts and then not paying them.

Maybe you should contact the people Trump stiffed
about what a sharp businessman he is...........






Donald Trump’s Business Plan Left a Trail of Unpaid Bills
June 9, 2016

Donald Trump often boasts on the presidential campaign
trail that hardball tactics helped make him a successful
businessman, an approach many voters say they admire.
Those tactics have also left behind bitter tales among
business owners who say he shortchanged them.

A review of court filings from jurisdictions in 33 states,
along with interviews with business people, real-estate
executives and others, shows a pattern over Mr. Trump’s
40-year career of his sometimes refusing to pay what
some business owners said Trump companies owed them.

A chandelier shop, a curtain maker, a lawyer and others
have said Mr. Trump’s companies agreed to buy goods and
services, then reneged when some or all were delivered.

Mr. Trump pushed the approach beyond construction and
into day-to-day casino operations, said Jack O’Donnell,
president of Mr. Trump’s Plaza casino in Atlantic City
in the late 1980s. "Part of how he did business as a
philosophy was to negotiate the best price he could.
And then when it came time to pay the bills," he said,
Mr. Trump would say that "I’m going to pay you but
I’m going to pay you 75% of what we agreed to."

http://tinyurl.com/h8j6rxm
PIBB
2017-09-10 12:35:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by David Hartung
Post by David Hartung
On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 5:59:54 PM UTC-4, David
Post by David Hartung
http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for
climate alarmists to claim they knew all along it would
happen. Politico's Eric Holthaus declared "We knew this
would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein stated "these events
have long been predicted by climate scientists." Joe Romm at
ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more
often because of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is
so ludicrous, at least as regards the connection between
global warming and tropical cyclones. A settled theory makes
specific predictions that can, in principle, be tested
against observed data. A theory that only yields vague,
untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete
idiot or not, or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To call a man who has built a number of successful businesses,
a complete moron says more about a lack of intellect on your
part than it does his.
Please list these successful businesses. I’ll then list the
failures. Let’s see which list is longer.
Trump went bankrupt on a casino. Do you realize how hard that
is?
Yes the President has had his failures, as has everybody. In the
end Trump's business acumen has managed to make him very
wealthy, no matter what you choose to believe.
Let's not overlook Trump's othe rbusines failures such as his
failed University, his steak venture, his Chaper 11s, Trump
Airlines, his travel web site, Trump Vodka, his board game, Trump
Ocean Resort Baja Mexico, Trump mortgages, etc etc.

Trump made money by swindling his partners, suppliers & customers
in his many failed ventures.

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-
failures-
election-2016-486091.html
SteveGG
2017-09-10 13:06:12 UTC
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What's the matter with you guys ?!

Haven't you heard; there is no climate change ! It's all just a
Chinese hoax !

So says and believes our esteemed president, and so it must be !
David Hartung
2017-09-09 22:57:21 UTC
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Post by Matt
Post by David Hartung
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/despite-hurricanes-harvey-and-irma-science-has-no-idea-if-climate-change-is-causing-more-or-fewer-powerful-hurricanes/article/2633521
or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not, or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Now that we have determined that you are totally without credibility,
how about addressing the subject of the thread? Currently the climate
community does not know one ay or the other if "global warming" is
connected in any way with the incidence of tropical cyclones.
Mattb.
2017-09-10 01:22:58 UTC
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Post by Matt
Post by David Hartung
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/despite-hurricanes-harvey-and-irma-science-has-no-idea-if-climate-change-is-causing-more-or-fewer-powerful-hurricanes/article/2633521
or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
Of course.
Like saying, we don't know if Donald Trump is a complete idiot or not, or whether his followers are absolute morons.
Yep, these things are hard to determine.
To me extremist on the left and the right are idiots and morons. Like
Nazi types and the Antifa.
Hale Hardy
2017-09-10 01:53:44 UTC
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Post by David Hartung
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/despite-hurricanes-harvey-and-irma-science-has-no-idea-if-climate-change-is-causing-more-or-fewer-powerful-hurricanes/article/2633521
or: http://tinyurl.com/y9ma5lcx
[...]
After Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, it didn't take long for climate
alarmists to claim they knew all along it would happen. Politico's Eric
Holthaus declared "We knew this would happen, decades ago." Naomi Klein
stated "these events have long been predicted by climate scientists."
Joe Romm at ThinkProgress wrote, "the fact is that Harvey is exactly the
kind of off-the-charts hurricane we can expect to see more often because
of climate change."
[...]
This is why the idea of climate science being "settled" is so ludicrous,
at least as regards the connection between global warming and tropical
cyclones. A settled theory makes specific predictions that can, in
principle, be tested against observed data. A theory that only yields
vague, untestable predictions is, at best, a work in progress.
[...]
The foolishness never seems to end.
If you went to 100 doctors and 97 of them said you had cancer, you’d agree
you have cancer.

That’s what “settled” means. There are more storms and the storms have more
power because The water is warmer. It’s not rocket science.
--
There is no one dumber than a Trump Supporter
PIBB
2017-09-11 13:37:41 UTC
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Then there are Trump's business failures such as his casinos,
Trump University, his steak venture, his Chapter 11s, Trump
Airlines, his travel web site, Trump Vodka, his board game, Trump
Ocean Resort Baja Mexico, Trump mortgages, etc.

Trump made his money by swindling his partners, suppliers &
customers in those many failed ventures.

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-
failures-election-2016-486091.html

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