Roy Stockdill
2005-02-11 22:00:56 UTC
I posted this much earlier today but it does not seem to have
appeared on the list or in the news group. Perhaps Buck House has a
censor wielding his scissors! Anyway, I am posting it again and if it
appears twice, many apologies.
Original message.....
Now that Prince Charles has announced he is finally to make an honest
woman of Camilla, it seems reasonable to speculate on their family
blood relationship, which is possibly somewhat closer than many folks
imagine
It's well known that Camilla's great-grandmother, Mrs Alice Keppel,
was one of the mistresses of Edward VII when he was Prince of Wales.
However, some historians believe Alice's daughter, Sonia Rosemary
Keppel (1900-1986), Camilla's grandmother, was fathered by the Prince
and not by Alice's cuckolded husband, George Keppel, who was a younger
brother of Arnold Allan Cecil Keppel, 8th Earl of Albemarle.
I have a CD-ROM describing all the royal families of Europe and on the
entry for Sonia it says: "Believed by some to be the daughter of the
Prince of Wales."
I've just been working it out and if Sonia Keppel was indeed the
illegitimate daughter of Edward VII, this would make her a half-sister
to King George V. Sonia married Ronald Calvert Cubbit, 3rd Lord
Ashcombe, and their daughter was Camilla's mother, the Hon Rosalind
Maud Cubitt, who would thus be a first cousin to King George VI. This
would make Camilla herself a second cousin to the Queen. So she could
be Charles's second cousin once removed - rather closer than generally
thought. Camilla descends from a mistress of Charles II, just like
Diana, so they were related, too, but distantly.
BTW, has anyone noticed the remarkable resemblance of "Princess
Camilla" to Audrey Roberts, the battleaxe of Coronation Street? They
could be sisters! Perhaps they are, since the actress who plays
Audrey Roberts, Sue Nicholls, is also a member of the aristocracy,
her real name being the Hon Susan Harmar-Nicholls, daughter of a life
peer baron.
All in the family, eh?
Roy Stockdill
Web page of the Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org
Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html
"There are no credentials. They do not even need a medical certificate. They need not
be sound either in mind or body. They only require a certificate of birth - just to
prove they are first of a litter. You would not choose a spaniel on these principles."
David Lloyd George on the aristocracy
appeared on the list or in the news group. Perhaps Buck House has a
censor wielding his scissors! Anyway, I am posting it again and if it
appears twice, many apologies.
Original message.....
Now that Prince Charles has announced he is finally to make an honest
woman of Camilla, it seems reasonable to speculate on their family
blood relationship, which is possibly somewhat closer than many folks
imagine
It's well known that Camilla's great-grandmother, Mrs Alice Keppel,
was one of the mistresses of Edward VII when he was Prince of Wales.
However, some historians believe Alice's daughter, Sonia Rosemary
Keppel (1900-1986), Camilla's grandmother, was fathered by the Prince
and not by Alice's cuckolded husband, George Keppel, who was a younger
brother of Arnold Allan Cecil Keppel, 8th Earl of Albemarle.
I have a CD-ROM describing all the royal families of Europe and on the
entry for Sonia it says: "Believed by some to be the daughter of the
Prince of Wales."
I've just been working it out and if Sonia Keppel was indeed the
illegitimate daughter of Edward VII, this would make her a half-sister
to King George V. Sonia married Ronald Calvert Cubbit, 3rd Lord
Ashcombe, and their daughter was Camilla's mother, the Hon Rosalind
Maud Cubitt, who would thus be a first cousin to King George VI. This
would make Camilla herself a second cousin to the Queen. So she could
be Charles's second cousin once removed - rather closer than generally
thought. Camilla descends from a mistress of Charles II, just like
Diana, so they were related, too, but distantly.
BTW, has anyone noticed the remarkable resemblance of "Princess
Camilla" to Audrey Roberts, the battleaxe of Coronation Street? They
could be sisters! Perhaps they are, since the actress who plays
Audrey Roberts, Sue Nicholls, is also a member of the aristocracy,
her real name being the Hon Susan Harmar-Nicholls, daughter of a life
peer baron.
All in the family, eh?
Roy Stockdill
Web page of the Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org
Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html
"There are no credentials. They do not even need a medical certificate. They need not
be sound either in mind or body. They only require a certificate of birth - just to
prove they are first of a litter. You would not choose a spaniel on these principles."
David Lloyd George on the aristocracy