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Some of you out there are calling me a hero
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Opinicus
2015-04-13 19:39:08 UTC
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"Some of you out there are calling me a hero; others are calling me a
hoagie; those of you from Connecticut are calling me a grinder."

(Peter Griffin, "Family Guy 1314 #jolo")
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Bob
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gloria p
2015-04-15 01:02:56 UTC
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Post by Opinicus
"Some of you out there are calling me a hero; others are calling me a
hoagie; those of you from Connecticut are calling me a grinder."
(Peter Griffin, "Family Guy 1314 #jolo")
Also heard in New England: torpedo or sub(marine).

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pltrgyst
2015-04-15 13:02:15 UTC
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Post by gloria p
Also heard in New England: torpedo or sub(marine).
I believe that "sub" is centered on New York and New Jersey -- as in
"Tastee Sub Shop", in Edison, NJ, visited by several presidents.

-- Larry
Jack Campin
2015-04-15 13:09:40 UTC
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Post by gloria p
Also heard in New England: torpedo or sub(marine).
I believe that "sub" is centered on New York and New Jersey -- as in
"Tastee Sub Shop", in Edison, NJ, visited by several presidents.
Isn't "submarine" the usual word in Pittsburgh too?

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Brooklyn1
2015-04-15 16:43:37 UTC
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Post by pltrgyst
Post by gloria p
Also heard in New England: torpedo or sub(marine).
I believe that "sub" is centered on New York and New Jersey -- as in
"Tastee Sub Shop", in Edison, NJ, visited by several presidents.
In NYC and surrounding areas it's "Hero". Other nomenclature is
typical for other parts of NYS.
Sqwertz
2015-04-17 05:55:33 UTC
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Post by Brooklyn1
Post by pltrgyst
Post by gloria p
Also heard in New England: torpedo or sub(marine).
I believe that "sub" is centered on New York and New Jersey -- as in
"Tastee Sub Shop", in Edison, NJ, visited by several presidents.
In NYC and surrounding areas it's "Hero". Other nomenclature is
typical for other parts of NYS.
Here's the demographic distribution of all the related terms.

http://www4.uwm.edu/FLL/linguistics/dialect/staticmaps/q_64.html

"Sub" is the national word with no geographical limitations.

Looks like we have the market cornered on the term "Bomber" here in
Austin.

-sw
micky
2015-04-22 23:43:32 UTC
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Post by Brooklyn1
Post by pltrgyst
Post by gloria p
Also heard in New England: torpedo or sub(marine).
I believe that "sub" is centered on New York and New Jersey -- as in
"Tastee Sub Shop", in Edison, NJ, visited by several presidents.
In NYC and surrounding areas it's "Hero".
Is hero derived from gyro, which is iiuc pronounced in Greek very much
liike hero in English?

Gyro refers to lamb (usually) rotating on a spit in front of or above
the fire, as in gyrate. .
Post by Brooklyn1
Other nomenclature is
typical for other parts of NYS.
gloria p
2015-04-15 17:30:11 UTC
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Post by gloria p
Also heard in New England: torpedo or sub(marine).
I believe that "sub" is centered on New York and New Jersey -- as in
"Tastee Sub Shop", in Edison, NJ, visited by several presidents.
-- Larry
Sub is also common in RI westward to Groton-New London, Ct and beyond.

Groton is the home of General Dynamics Electric Boat Division where for
generations they built, you guessed it, submarines. It was the major
employer in the area.

gloria p
Tony Cooper
2015-04-16 05:26:50 UTC
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Post by pltrgyst
Post by gloria p
Also heard in New England: torpedo or sub(marine).
I believe that "sub" is centered on New York and New Jersey -- as in
"Tastee Sub Shop", in Edison, NJ, visited by several presidents.
It's difficult for me to think of a term being "centered" in any area
when there are 43,800 Subway franchise locations in 109 different
countries and are part of a company that does national advertising in
the US. Their product is a "sub".
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
Bill McCray
2015-04-16 13:53:20 UTC
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Post by Tony Cooper
Post by pltrgyst
Post by gloria p
Also heard in New England: torpedo or sub(marine).
I believe that "sub" is centered on New York and New Jersey -- as in
"Tastee Sub Shop", in Edison, NJ, visited by several presidents.
It's difficult for me to think of a term being "centered" in any area
when there are 43,800 Subway franchise locations in 109 different
countries and are part of a company that does national advertising in
the US. Their product is a "sub".
I was thinking that, too, Tony. Sub is probably the most common term
here in central Kentucky.

Bill in Kentucky
Nunya Bidnits
2015-04-18 02:13:17 UTC
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Post by Tony Cooper
It's difficult for me to think of a term being "centered" in
any area
when there are 43,800 Subway franchise locations in 109
different
countries and are part of a company that does national
advertising in
the US. Their product is a "sub".
In Kansas City a grinder is an Italian roll stuffed with cheese
and/or sausage or meatballs plus some nice sauce. It's hollowed
out, stuffed, and toasted. Delicious. It was popularized by a
restaurant called Mario's but others still serve a version of it
as well. I was surprised when I first came across a sub called
a grinder.

The overstuffed compost sandwiches are called hoagies or of
course subs around here IME. I agree that the Subway brand has
changed the language through market saturation.

MartyB
W. Lohman
2015-04-18 04:39:29 UTC
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Post by Tony Cooper
It's difficult for me to think of a term being "centered" in any area
when there are 43,800 Subway franchise locations in 109 different
countries and are part of a company that does national advertising in
the US. Their product is a "sub".
In Kansas City a grinder is an Italian roll stuffed with cheese and/or
sausage or meatballs plus some nice sauce. It's hollowed out, stuffed,
and toasted. Delicious. It was popularized by a restaurant called
Mario's but others still serve a version of it as well. I was surprised
when I first came across a sub called a grinder.
The overstuffed compost sandwiches are called hoagies or of course subs
around here IME. I agree that the Subway brand has changed the language
through market saturation.
MartyB
Your local community has been the death knell of anything not grossly
over-sauced with sweet tomato castsup barf and a pariah of real BBQ - in
many ways the antithesis of real smoked meats and the religion of true
dry rub.

May you some day have fruit wood trees that do not defile you.

Or at least the ability not to drown your charred ends in whatever
saucepan debility defines the day.
Nunya Bidnits
2015-04-18 16:52:02 UTC
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in many ways the antithesis of real smoked meats and the
religion of true dry rub.
I have a wall full of awards, lots of prize money, and I enjoy
the camaraderie, while you can only sling shit, my lonely bitch.
And there's more quality dry rub in the house right now that you
will ever own in your pathetic lifetime.

I compete, sometimes I win, and I always enjoy the food and good
company, while all you can do is sit in filth and stalk people
who are better than you. That's who you are.
Ahhhhhhhhhhahahaaaaaaaaaa.....
Or at least the ability not to drown your charred ends in
whatever saucepan debility defines the day.
I don't sauce burnt ends, my clueless wannabe-stalker bitch.

Go lay down somewhere.
W. Lohman
2015-04-18 17:53:25 UTC
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Post by Nunya Bidnits
in many ways the antithesis of real smoked meats and the religion of
true dry rub.
I have a wall full of awards,
Right...all from similarly souce-slobbering morons no doubt...
Post by Nunya Bidnits
lots of prize money,
Sure ya do...enough to buy more souce and mess food up again...
Post by Nunya Bidnits
and I enjoy the camaraderie,
Of similar low-lifes, of course...
Post by Nunya Bidnits
while you can only sling shit, my lonely bitch.
I would sling your shitty Q straight into a dumpster, yes...
Post by Nunya Bidnits
And there's
more quality dry rub in the house right now that you will ever own in
your pathetic lifetime.
Mbwahahahahaa!!!

All waiting to be glopped over by sticky tomato-based BBQ diarrhea!
Post by Nunya Bidnits
I compete,
Food isn't a competition, fool.
Post by Nunya Bidnits
sometimes I win,
Which is the ultimate loss.
Post by Nunya Bidnits
and I always enjoy the food and good
company,
I know you really want us to believe that.
Post by Nunya Bidnits
while all you can do is sit in filth and stalk people who are
better than you. That's who you are. Ahhhhhhhhhhahahaaaaaaaaaa.....
Says the uselessnet know-it-all, it is to laugh!
Post by Nunya Bidnits
Or at least the ability not to drown your charred ends in whatever
saucepan debility defines the day.
I don't sauce burnt ends, my clueless wannabe-stalker bitch.
Must be the only thing you haven't dumped doggy doo doo souce on, ll.
Post by Nunya Bidnits
Go lay down somewhere.
I've layed a smackdown on ya, enjoy, souce fool.
Nunya Bidnits
2015-04-18 18:33:16 UTC
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Post by W. Lohman
I know you really want us to believe that.
Who are "us", my lonely stalker bitch?

lol
W. Lohman
2015-04-18 18:40:04 UTC
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Post by W. Lohman
I know you really want us to believe that.
Who are "us", my lonely stalker bitch?
lol
Souce got to ya early, greaseball?
micky
2015-04-22 23:49:06 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 01:26:50 -0400, Tony Cooper
Post by Tony Cooper
Post by pltrgyst
Post by gloria p
Also heard in New England: torpedo or sub(marine).
I believe that "sub" is centered on New York and New Jersey -- as in
"Tastee Sub Shop", in Edison, NJ, visited by several presidents.
It's difficult for me to think of a term being "centered" in any area
when there are 43,800 Subway franchise locations in 109 different
countries and are part of a company that does national advertising in
the US. Their product is a "sub".
But all those were opened decades after "sub" meant sandwich. And
more importantly, pft is talking about sub, the sandwich, which has imo
nothing to do with "subway".

Indianapolis had for a long time Sam's Subway, which was either supposed
to be reminiscent of the NYC subway or it was called that because it was
a half-flight down from the sidewalk, I don't know which.

Assuming the word was began and was once centered in NY and NJ, unless
the word stops being used there, it seems to me the center does not
change.

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