Böhm - DG "Late Recordings" - 23 CD - 06/2015

[Randy Lane]

While there a few duplications, there's enough material in the forthcoming Böhm Late Recordings I do not currently have to give me yearning to acquire it, but I'm still hesitant.

http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/DG/4794371

I have none of the Vienna Mozart recordings.
And the Haydn 90th and 91st, which I think have only been on CD in Japan.
The Tchaikovsky 4-6.
The Schumann 4th is new to CD AFAIK (Schubert 5th is the same coupled with Beethoven 6th on Originals CD).

Not included:
Recordings made in Japan in 1970s
Schubert Sym. #5 and #8, VPO 1977, LP 2531373 - AFAIK never on CD

Contents from Tower Japan

[CD1] Beethoven: Symphony No. 9 - the Vienna Philharmonic [1980 recording]
[CD2] Beethoven: Egmont Overture, Coriolan Overture,
Prometheus creative things Overture - the Vienna Philharmonic
[1971 Record, Fidelio overture,
Leonore Overture No. 3 - Dresden Staatskapelle [1969 recording]
[CD3 ~ 4] Beethoven: Missa Solemnis Op.123 ~ Vienna Philharmonic
[1974 recording ]
[CD5] Bruckner: Symphony No. 7 - the Vienna Philharmonic [1976 recording]
[CD6] Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 - the Vienna Philharmonic [1976 recording]
[CD7 ~ 8] Haydn: Symphony No. 88-92 No. ,
Sinfonia Concertante - Vienna Philharmonic [1972 ~ '73 recording]
[CD9 ~ 12] Mozart: Symphony No. 29, 35, 38, 39, 40, No. 41,
funeral music for free Mason, Eine Kleine Nachtmusik ,
Sinfonia Concertante
Vienna Philharmonic [1974 ~ '80 recording]
[CD13] Mozart: Requiem - the Vienna Philharmonic [1971 recording]
[CD14] Schumann: Symphony No. 4, Schubert: Symphony No. 5
Vienna Philharmonic [1978-1979 recording]
[CD15] Schubert: Symphony No. 8, Dvorak: Symphony No. 9
Vienna Philharmonic [1977-1978 recording]
[CD16] Schubert: Symphony No. 9 - Dresden Staatskapelle [1979 Recording]
[CD17] Johann Strauss II: The Blue Danube,
Toritchi-Toratchi Polka, Kaiser-Walzer,
thunder and lightning, tropical roses,
Johann Strauss II and Josef Strauss: Pizzicato Polka,
Johann Strauss 2 world: An'nen Polka, perpetuum mobile
Vienna Philharmonic [1971-1972 recording]
[CD18] R-Strauss: Heroes of life - the Vienna Philharmonic [1976 recording]
[CD19 ~ 21] Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4-6
London Symphony Orchestra 1977 ~ '80 recording]
[CD22 ~ 23] Wagner: Rienzi Overture, Tannhauser Overture,
Prelude to the Meistersinger first act of Nuremberg,
Prelude to Parsifal first act, Flying Dutchman Overture,
Lohengrin Prelude to Act 1, Prelude, Prelude, death
Vienna Philharmonic [1978-1980
Recording of Isolde to Tristan and Isolde
first act of Lohengrin to Act 3 [performance]

[Herman]

they did not include the concertos with Pollini, Mozart 19 & 23 and Beethoven 3 - 5.

[Steve de Mena]

Post by Herman
they did not include the concertos with Pollini, Mozart 19 & 23 and Beethoven 3 - 5.

They seemed to use 1976 or so as the cutoff point for "late
recordings". The Brahms Symphonies from 1975-76 are not included either.

Steve

[Steve de Mena]

Post by Steve de Mena

Post by Herman
they did not include the concertos with Pollini, Mozart 19 & 23 and Beethoven 3 - 5.

They seemed to use 1976 or so as the cutoff point for "late
recordings". The Brahms Symphonies from 1975-76 are not included either.
Steve

No, the box goes back to 1969 so it appears to be just someone's
selection of Böhm recordings....

Steve

[Randy Lane]

Post by Steve de Mena

Post by Steve de Mena

Post by Herman
they did not include the concertos with Pollini, Mozart 19 & 23 and Beethoven 3 - 5.

They seemed to use 1976 or so as the cutoff point for "late
recordings". The Brahms Symphonies from 1975-76 are not included either.
Steve

No, the box goes back to 1969 so it appears to be just someone's
selection of Böhm recordings....
Steve

Found the "Late" title puzzling too.
Seems it is mainly non-Berlin P.O. DG recordings, with the last recording being offered where more than one exists.

It looks to original jacket/LP-content format, given the Tchaikovsky is spread among 3 CDs.

I figure 8-9 of the 23 CDs are duplications for me.

[Ray Hall]

Post by Randy Lane
It looks to original jacket/LP-content format, given the Tchaikovsky is spread among 3 CDs.
I figure 8-9 of the 23 CDs are duplications for me.

Have you looked at the 22 CD Symphony box (Beethoven, Brahms, Mozart,
and Schubert) by Bohm, or is this duplicating too much?

The Berlin PO is used for the Mozart and Schubert and the VPO for the
Beethoven and Brahms.

Ray Hall, Taree

[Herman]

Post by Herman
they did not include the concertos with Pollini, Mozart 19 & 23 and Beethoven 3 - 5.

I used to have most of those Mozart / VPO LPs, in many cases the first recordings of those symphonies I owned, but almost every other recording I subsequently got were more satisfying than late-life Böhm.

His seventies Mozart was pretty much drained of all energy.

[Steve de Mena]

Post by Randy Lane
The Schumann 4th is new to CD AFAIK (Schubert 5th is the same coupled with Beethoven 6th on Originals CD).

Schumann 4 was on a Spanish DG CD, part of a large series of various
works/conductors which included some unusual releases new to CD.

Post by Randy Lane
Recordings made in Japan in 1970s
Schubert Sym. #5 and #8, VPO 1977, LP 2531373 - AFAIK never on CD

Schubert 8 was on a Spanish DG CD, part of a large series of various
works/conductors which included some unusual releases new to CD. But
it indicates a 1982 recording date.

I think DG LP 2531 373 came out in 1982, not 1977.

Schubert 5 is on DG Originals 289 447 4332 6 (with Beethoven 6).
Recorded December 1979 Musikverein.

Steve

[Randy Lane]

Post by Steve de Mena

Post by Randy Lane
The Schumann 4th is new to CD AFAIK (Schubert 5th is the same coupled with Beethoven 6th on Originals CD).

Schumann 4 was on a Spanish DG CD, part of a large series of various
works/conductors which included some unusual releases new to CD.

Post by Randy Lane
Recordings made in Japan in 1970s
Schubert Sym. #5 and #8, VPO 1977, LP 2531373 - AFAIK never on CD

Schubert 8 was on a Spanish DG CD, part of a large series of various
works/conductors which included some unusual releases new to CD. But
it indicates a 1982 recording date.
I think DG LP 2531 373 came out in 1982, not 1977.
Schubert 5 is on DG Originals 289 447 4332 6 (with Beethoven 6).
Recorded December 1979 Musikverein.

I already noted that.

Post by Steve de Mena
Steve

It looks like the CHARM database mistakenly has two entries with different recordings dates for this recordings of the 5th, which was on two LPs. Timings of the 5th on the two LPs at Discogs are identical.

2531 373 (which CHARM says was recorded 06/16/1977) coupled with Schubert 8th recorded (per CHARM) 06/19/1977

http://www.discogs.com/Schubert-Karl-Boehm-Orchestre-Philharmonique-De-Vienne-Symphonies-N8-Inachev%C3%A9e-N5-En-Si-B%C3%A9mol-Maje/release/6810640

2531 279 (which CHARM says was recorded 11/28/1979) coupled with Schumann 4th recorded (per CHARM) 11/20/1978

http://www.discogs.com/Franz-Schubert-Robert-Schumann-Wiener-Philharmoniker-Karl-B%C3%B6hm-Schubert-Symphonie-No5-Schumann-Symp/release/6853178

[Steve de Mena]

Post by Randy Lane
It looks like the CHARM database mistakenly has two entries with different recordings dates for this recordings of the 5th, which was on two LPs. Timings of the 5th on the two LPs at Discogs are identical.
2531 373 (which CHARM says was recorded 06/16/1977) coupled with Schubert 8th recorded (per CHARM) 06/19/1977
http://www.discogs.com/Schubert-Karl-Boehm-Orchestre-Philharmonique-De-Vienne-Symphonies-N8-Inachev%C3%A9e-N5-En-Si-B%C3%A9mol-Maje/release/6810640
2531 279 (which CHARM says was recorded 11/28/1979) coupled with Schumann 4th recorded (per CHARM) 11/20/1978
http://www.discogs.com/Franz-Schubert-Robert-Schumann-Wiener-Philharmoniker-Karl-B%C3%B6hm-Schubert-Symphonie-No5-Schumann-Symp/release/6853178

Thanks for the additional info.

Steve

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Post by Randy Lane
While there a few duplications, there's enough material in the forthcoming Böhm Late Recordings I do not currently have to give me yearning to acquire it, but I'm still hesitant.
http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/DG/4794371
I have none of the Vienna Mozart recordings.
And the Haydn 90th and 91st, which I think have only been on CD in Japan.
The Tchaikovsky 4-6.
The Schumann 4th is new to CD AFAIK (Schubert 5th is the same coupled with Beethoven 6th on Originals CD).
Recordings made in Japan in 1970s
Schubert Sym. #5 and #8, VPO 1977, LP 2531373 - AFAIK never on CD
Contents from Tower Japan
[CD1] Beethoven: Symphony No. 9 - the Vienna Philharmonic [1980 recording]
[CD2] Beethoven: Egmont Overture, Coriolan Overture,
Prometheus creative things Overture - the Vienna Philharmonic
[1971 Record, Fidelio overture,
Leonore Overture No. 3 - Dresden Staatskapelle [1969 recording]
[CD3 ~ 4] Beethoven: Missa Solemnis Op.123 ~ Vienna Philharmonic
[1974 recording ]
[CD5] Bruckner: Symphony No. 7 - the Vienna Philharmonic [1976 recording]
[CD6] Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 - the Vienna Philharmonic [1976 recording]
[CD7 ~ 8] Haydn: Symphony No. 88-92 No. ,
Sinfonia Concertante - Vienna Philharmonic [1972 ~ '73 recording]
[CD9 ~ 12] Mozart: Symphony No. 29, 35, 38, 39, 40, No. 41,
funeral music for free Mason, Eine Kleine Nachtmusik ,
Sinfonia Concertante
Vienna Philharmonic [1974 ~ '80 recording]
[CD13] Mozart: Requiem - the Vienna Philharmonic [1971 recording]
[CD14] Schumann: Symphony No. 4, Schubert: Symphony No. 5
Vienna Philharmonic [1978-1979 recording]
[CD15] Schubert: Symphony No. 8, Dvorak: Symphony No. 9
Vienna Philharmonic [1977-1978 recording]
[CD16] Schubert: Symphony No. 9 - Dresden Staatskapelle [1979 Recording]
[CD17] Johann Strauss II: The Blue Danube,
Toritchi-Toratchi Polka, Kaiser-Walzer,
thunder and lightning, tropical roses,
Johann Strauss II and Josef Strauss: Pizzicato Polka,
Johann Strauss 2 world: An'nen Polka, perpetuum mobile
Vienna Philharmonic [1971-1972 recording]
[CD18] R-Strauss: Heroes of life - the Vienna Philharmonic [1976 recording]
[CD19 ~ 21] Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4-6
London Symphony Orchestra 1977 ~ '80 recording]
[CD22 ~ 23] Wagner: Rienzi Overture, Tannhauser Overture,
Prelude to the Meistersinger first act of Nuremberg,
Prelude to Parsifal first act, Flying Dutchman Overture,
Lohengrin Prelude to Act 1, Prelude, Prelude, death
Vienna Philharmonic [1978-1980
Recording of Isolde to Tristan and Isolde
first act of Lohengrin to Act 3 [performance]

Recent Youtube upload:

Wagner - Meistersinger Prelude - Bayreuth / Böhm 1968

[Stefan Huber]

Do you think that UMG will release a box set of all of Böhm's orchestral DG recordings in the foreseeable future? I think there are currently three box sets which should cover most of them, but still there is some duplication and other recordings are missing from them at all.