Best turntables

https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

MELMOTH

2020-12-24 00:00:48 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://picclick.fr/Vintage-Thorens-Td-226-Electronic-Turntable-Rare-Platine-143864302245.html

Andy Evans

2020-12-24 11:07:06 UTC

https://www.avforums.com/threads/emt-950-347-bbc-turntable.605575/

Andy Evans

2020-12-24 11:10:20 UTC

https://www.leekballoons.co.uk/emt-950-ex-bbc-professional-turntable-for-sale.html

2020-12-30 05:49:45 UTC

Post by Andy Evans
https://www.leekballoons.co.uk/emt-950-ex-bbc-professional-turntable-for-sale.html

Much better: https://picclick.fr/?q=linn+sondek+lp12

dk

raymond....@gmail.com

2020-12-30 08:15:09 UTC

Post by Andy Evans
https://www.leekballoons.co.uk/emt-950-ex-bbc-professional-turntable-for-sale.html

Much better: https://picclick.fr/?q=linn+sondek+lp12
dk

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Gramophone+Record+Player&form=IDINTS&first=1&tsc=ImageBasicHover

These look better in the living room.

Ray Hall, Taree

Owen

2020-12-30 15:09:19 UTC

Post by ***@gmail.com

Post by Andy Evans
https://www.leekballoons.co.uk/emt-950-ex-bbc-professional-turntable-for-sale.html

Much better: https://picclick.fr/?q=linn+sondek+lp12
dk

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Gramophone+Record+Player&form=IDINTS&first=1&tsc=ImageBasicHover
These look better in the living room.

Plus you can easily get replacement stylii in any hardware store, look
under "nails."

-Owen

Raymond Hall

2020-12-30 19:20:52 UTC

Post by Owen

Post by ***@gmail.com

Post by Andy Evans
https://www.leekballoons.co.uk/emt-950-ex-bbc-professional-turntable-for-sale.html

Much better: https://picclick.fr/?q=linn+sondek+lp12
dk

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Gramophone+Record+Player&form=IDINTS&first=1&tsc=ImageBasicHover
These look better in the living room.

Plus you can easily get replacement stylii in any hardware store, look
under "nails."
-Owen

For next to nothing you can purchase 1000s of these precision engineered needles in pretty little boxes. Don't laugh, but the immediacy of sound, particularly of voice, that can be got from these pbonographs can be startling. Many phonographs are now fitted with bluetooth also.

Our ears have been accustomed to electronic mush. Nothing beats direct from the horn.

Ray Hall, Taree

Steven Bornfeld

2020-12-31 03:31:53 UTC

Post by Raymond Hall

Post by Owen

Post by ***@gmail.com

Post by Andy Evans
https://www.leekballoons.co.uk/emt-950-ex-bbc-professional-turntable-for-sale.html

Much better: https://picclick.fr/?q=linn+sondek+lp12
dk

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Gramophone+Record+Player&form=IDINTS&first=1&tsc=ImageBasicHover
These look better in the living room.

Plus you can easily get replacement stylii in any hardware store, look
under "nails."
-Owen

For next to nothing you can purchase 1000s of these precision engineered needles in pretty little boxes. Don't laugh, but the immediacy of sound, particularly of voice, that can be got from these pbonographs can be startling. Many phonographs are now fitted with bluetooth also.
Our ears have been accustomed to electronic mush. Nothing beats direct from the horn.
Ray Hall, Taree

I'm old enough to remember the small cardboard box with the steel
replacement needles, held in place by a thumbscrew (and the foil
diaphagm in the turntable arm.

2021-01-02 23:33:15 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2020-golden-ear-awards-jacob-heilbrunn

dk

Owen

2021-01-04 13:54:09 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2020-golden-ear-awards-jacob-heilbrunn

Finally! A turntable that won't skip a groove during a nuclear war!

-Owen

Graham

2021-01-04 16:08:26 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2020-golden-ear-awards-jacob-heilbrunn
dk

I'm reminded that a fool and his money are soon parted.

2021-01-04 20:38:19 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2020-golden-ear-awards-jacob-heilbrunn

I'm reminded that a fool and his money are soon parted.

I neither purchased nor recommended any of these
monsterpieces. My Linn Sondek is good enough for
my ears, my budget and the rest of my system.

dk

Graham

2021-01-04 20:52:30 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2020-golden-ear-awards-jacob-heilbrunn

I'm reminded that a fool and his money are soon parted.

I neither purchased nor recommended any of these
monsterpieces. My Linn Sondek is good enough for
my ears, my budget and the rest of my system.
dk

The belt broke on my old Empire/SME set-up. I haven't got around to getting
a new belt as I have replaced most of my modest LP collecton with the
equivalent CD releases.

Bob Harper

2021-01-05 04:42:46 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2020-golden-ear-awards-jacob-heilbrunn

I'm reminded that a fool and his money are soon parted.

I neither purchased nor recommended any of these
monsterpieces. My Linn Sondek is good enough for
my ears, my budget and the rest of my system.
dk

I've got an Oracle Mk1, Zeta arm, and Denon DL103 cartridge. Sounds
pretty good, and is long since paid for.

Bob Harper

Andrew Clarke

2021-01-05 06:18:52 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2020-golden-ear-awards-jacob-heilbrunn
dk

I'm reminded that a fool and his money are soon parted.

Have you remembered to bi-amp your speakers?

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

2021-01-05 07:42:17 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2020-golden-ear-awards-jacob-heilbrunn

I'm reminded that a fool and his money are soon parted.

Have you remembered to bi-amp your speakers?
http://youtu.be/TnXUtUUYzec

My speakers are a pair of Sound Lab electrostatics almost 20 years old,
driven by 2 pairs of EAR 509 bridged mono amps, coupled with VMPS
sub-woofers with built-in low pass filtered solid state amps. However
most of the time I listen through headphones which I can while I work
as well as late at night. The big tube amps are really a PITA to set up
and they take 30-40 minutes to warm up -- an effort that is rarely
justified unless I want to listen to big symphonic or choral works.

dk

MELMOTH

2021-01-05 14:01:07 UTC

Post by dk
My speakers are a pair of Sound Lab electrostatics almost 20 years old,
driven by 2 pairs of EAR 509 bridged mono amps, coupled with VMPS
sub-woofers with built-in low pass filtered solid state amps. However
most of the time I listen through headphones which I can while I work
as well as late at night. The big tube amps are really a PITA to set up
and they take 30-40 minutes to warm up -- an effort that is rarely
justified unless I want to listen to big symphonic or choral works.

I understand now why you don't like all these wonderful pianists...
I'm sure you would change your mind if you had a GOOD high fidelity
equipment...

2021-01-05 20:40:57 UTC

Post by MELMOTH

I understand now why you don't like all these wonderful pianists...
I'm sure you would change your mind if you had a GOOD high fidelity
equipment...

Can you provide some examples of "good high fidelity equipment" so I
know how to improve my music reproduction chain? BT earbuds?

dk

Chris from Lafayette

2021-01-05 21:30:11 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2020-golden-ear-awards-jacob-heilbrunn

I'm reminded that a fool and his money are soon parted.

Have you remembered to bi-amp your speakers?
http://youtu.be/TnXUtUUYzec

Wow - great minds think alike. My subwoofer (15" front firing, with a downward firing 15" passive radiator) is also VMPS. And my main (FR and FL) speakers are also VMPS. (Brian Cheney, the owner/designer of the company, and I were friends during the last few years of his life, and my wife still gets together with his wife every few months for lunch.)

I think you are right to have acquired subwoofers (plural) as opposed to a single subwoofer as most people have in their systems. Since VMPS is no longer in business, I'm trying to figure out what to do about this in my own system, with its single subwoofer.

2021-01-05 22:08:53 UTC

Post by Chris from Lafayette

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2020-golden-ear-awards-jacob-heilbrunn

I'm reminded that a fool and his money are soon parted.

Have you remembered to bi-amp your speakers?
http://youtu.be/TnXUtUUYzec

My speakers are a pair of Sound Lab electrostatics almost 20 years old,
driven by 2 pairs of EAR 509 bridged mono amps, coupled with VMPS
sub-woofers with built-in low pass filtered solid state amps.

Wow - great minds think alike. My subwoofer (15" front firing, with a downward firing

I have no claims on being a great mind! Only a decent pair of ears ;-)

Post by Chris from Lafayette
15" passive radiator) is also VMPS. And my main (FR and FL) speakers are also VMPS.
(Brian Cheney, the owner/designer of the company, and I were friends during the last
few years of his life, and my wife still gets together with his wife every few months for
lunch.)
I think you are right to have acquired subwoofers (plural) as opposed to a single
subwoofer as most people have in their systems. Since VMPS is no longer in
business, I'm trying to figure out what to do about this in my own system, with
its single subwoofer.

I purchased this system many years ago from Noel Lee (of Monster Cable fame)
and this is how it had been set up by him. Single sub-woofers make no sense at
all as they require mixing of the left and right channels, which in turn requires a
crossover ahead of the mixer. The beauty of this setup is its simplicity, as there
is no active crossover anywhere in the system. The sub-woofers have their own
low pass filters, and the electrostatics have built-in band pass filters to protect
the panels from DC or UHF overload. These are the finest speakers I have never
heard.

dk

Ed Presson

2021-01-06 20:50:07 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2020-golden-ear-awards-jacob-heilbrunn

I'm reminded that a fool and his money are soon parted.

Have you remembered to bi-amp your speakers?
http://youtu.be/TnXUtUUYzec

2021-01-06 21:23:52 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2020-golden-ear-awards-jacob-heilbrunn

I'm reminded that a fool and his money are soon parted.

Have you remembered to bi-amp your speakers?
http://youtu.be/TnXUtUUYzec

Thank you! I have not felt a need to upgrade for a long
time. My audiophile fever appears to have been cured. ;-)

dk

2021-01-06 22:41:14 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2020-golden-ear-awards-jacob-heilbrunn

I'm reminded that a fool and his money are soon parted.

Have you remembered to bi-amp your speakers?
http://youtu.be/TnXUtUUYzec

The original setup included an Audio Research SP10 Mk II pre,
which imparted the system with a sound that was a bit dry to my
ears. It was replaced after a couple of years with an EAR 912 pre.

dk

gggg gggg

2021-04-21 18:37:30 UTC

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/hi-fi/best-turntables

Neil

2021-07-20 08:07:52 UTC

Post by gggg gggg

Post by gggg gggg
https://www.cnet.com/news/best-record-player-for-2021/

https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/hi-fi/best-turntables

What Hifi is hilarious. They reckon Tidal sounds better than Spotify (both streaming CD quality). I guess they didn't think to md5 sum the files to check if they were different!

bogdan

2021-07-20 23:45:04 UTC

What Hifi is hilarious. They reckon Tidal sounds better than Spotify (both streaming CD quality). I guess they didn't think to md5 sum the files to check if they were different!

I certainly believe it's possible: same album ripped from cd on local hard drive sounds quite a bit better that tidal at claimed cd quality, and this on my computer speakers.

Neil

2021-07-21 14:08:52 UTC

What Hifi is hilarious. They reckon Tidal sounds better than Spotify (both streaming CD quality). I guess they didn't think to md5 sum the files to check if they were different!

I certainly believe it's possible: same album ripped from cd on local hard drive sounds quite a bit better that tidal at claimed cd quality, and this on my computer speakers.

I'd like to see application of the scientific method to clear this up. I would have thought ripped CDs would have more errors.

Frank Berger

2021-07-21 14:29:01 UTC

Post by Neil

What Hifi is hilarious. They reckon Tidal sounds better than Spotify (both streaming CD quality). I guess they didn't think to md5 sum the files to check if they were different!

I certainly believe it's possible: same album ripped from cd on local hard drive sounds quite a bit better that tidal at claimed cd quality, and this on my computer speakers.

I'd like to see application of the scientific method to clear this up. I would have thought ripped CDs would have more errors.

I would have thought such errors to be inaudible.

MiNe109

2021-07-21 16:29:33 UTC

Post by Neil

Post by Neil
What Hifi is hilarious. They reckon Tidal sounds better than
Spotify (both streaming CD quality). I guess they didn't think to
md5 sum the files to check if they were different!

I certainly believe it's possible: same album ripped from cd on
local hard drive sounds quite a bit better that tidal at claimed cd
quality, and this on my computer speakers.

I'd like to see application of the scientific method to clear this
up. I would have thought ripped CDs would have more errors.

Those errors would be corrected during playback. It would be instructive
to compare the files directly. Of course, there's no guarantee Tidal and
and the cd have the same mastering.

The usual caveats about matching the playback levels, etc, would apply.

bogdan

2021-07-21 16:38:35 UTC

Post by MiNe109
Those errors would be corrected during playback. It would be instructive
to compare the files directly. Of course, there's no guarantee Tidal and
and the cd have the same mastering.
The usual caveats about matching the playback levels, etc, would apply.

Problem is you can't see the files Tidal is playing, so who knows what's in there...

bogdan

2021-07-21 16:35:34 UTC

Post by Neil

What Hifi is hilarious. They reckon Tidal sounds better than Spotify (both streaming CD quality). I guess they didn't think to md5 sum the files to check if they were different!

I certainly believe it's possible: same album ripped from cd on local hard drive sounds quite a bit better that tidal at claimed cd quality, and this on my computer speakers.

I'd like to see application of the scientific method to clear this up. I would have thought ripped CDs would have more errors.

When I was using dBpoweramp to rip my cd's, rarely I ended up with a track signature different than what was in their database for that cd/track, so most of the time the ripped files are bit for bit perfect. Now I rip with foobar and don't bother to check anymore.

There could be a number of reasons why local files sound better than Tidal: perhaps tidal "hifi" is not quite lossless cd-quality file streaming, despite the claims. Or perhaps the Tidal desktop player is crappy. Or it just doesn't match well with my sound card settings. Or it may be something else...

gggg gggg

2021-07-20 04:02:14 UTC