MAGA men apparently need government intervention…

…to get laid.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

--
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liberal personality.” — Altie

Michael Falkner

2021-07-11 07:14:04 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Not surprising. They've been trying to legalize rape for a number of years now.

Mike

unclejr

2021-07-11 13:26:25 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Not surprising. They've been trying to legalize rape for a number of years now.
Mike

JFC. You're a very "rapey" poster.

HTH.

Michael Falkner

2021-07-12 08:51:25 UTC

JFC. You're a very "rapey" poster.
HTH.

Damn right.

At least I know what's going on and I'm not afraid to state it.

Don't like it? Gun. Hot lead. Now.

Bitch.

Mike

unclejr

2021-07-12 14:44:36 UTC

Post by Michael Falkner

JFC. You're a very "rapey" poster.
HTH.

Damn right.
At least I know what's going on and I'm not afraid to state it.
Don't like it? Gun. Hot lead. Now.
Bitch.
Mike

LOL

michael anderson

2021-07-11 15:56:31 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white, clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

And most of the ones who do exist sure aren't getting premium slices.

The reality is that most eligible women are dating a very small niche of guys. Whose politics really don't matter(unless
they talk about them to the point that it is annoying and a negative). The others aren't dating anyone(whether
they would like to or not),and just occasionally rsfcking guys who meet them on Bumble.

So you have this model that has developed where women are increasingly dating(or really some of them just rsfcking) the same small slice of premium
guys. Of course this leaves a lot of these women upset because the guy they think they are 'seeing' is also rsfcking hawter women,and these are the women he is seriously considering dating.

So that leaves the women bitter and angry, and they develop hostility towards other guys. You know, the ones who they
won't date lol. And they are totally oblivious to how their choices have led to their discontent.

Post by xyzzy
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie

Plaidmoon

2021-07-11 18:38:07 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white, clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Where did you get this “fact”? It sounds like something an incel would pull out of his ass to explain his feeble success with women. As does the rest of your rant.

I’ll bet there are far more Democrat, white, clearly heterosexual men today than in 1880.

michael anderson

2021-07-12 01:17:01 UTC

Post by Plaidmoon

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white, clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Where did you get this “fact”? It sounds like something an incel would pull out of his ass to explain his feeble success with women. As does the rest of your rant.
I’ll bet there are far more Democrat, white, clearly heterosexual men today than in 1880.

Well Im in alabama which is a state where the white people are very republican(except in my little area the whites are too damn liberal lol....go 7-8 miles out and it becomes much better politically) so maybe that skews things...but no, I don't see a lot of strong white male heterosexuals out there. And when you look at party recruitment and their top people, it kind of spills over into that as well. On the gop side you have plenty of obvious manly hetero white guys. On the dems? People like Bernie sanders and Biden....ie guys who are basically 80 lol. Then a bunch of other guys who hardly give off masculine vibes....

Johnny RSFCootball

2021-07-12 04:24:42 UTC

Post by Plaidmoon

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white, clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Where did you get this “fact”? It sounds like something an incel would pull out of his ass to explain his feeble success with women. As does the rest of your rant.
I’ll bet there are far more Democrat, white, clearly heterosexual men today than in 1880.

You’re really good at making ridiculous states and then backing them up with even more ridiculous “evidence”. You’ll always be my favorite Usenet troll.

Michael Falkner

2021-07-12 08:54:31 UTC

Post by Johnny RSFCootball
You’re really good at making ridiculous states and then backing them up with even more ridiculous “evidence”. You’ll always be my favorite Usenet troll.

He's a Republican pro-rape piece of shit. No more and no less.

Mike

Johnny RSFCootball

2021-07-12 04:30:33 UTC

Post by Plaidmoon

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white, clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Where did you get this “fact”? It sounds like something an incel would pull out of his ass to explain his feeble success with women. As does the rest of your rant.
I’ll bet there are far more Democrat, white, clearly heterosexual men today than in 1880.

I was taught in school that the whole country was gay during the 1890s.

Michael Falkner

2021-07-12 08:53:58 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white, clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Hopefully no one, given the alternative.

Certainly not you.

The reality is that most eligible women are dating a very small niche of guys. Whose politics really don't matter(unless
they talk about them to the point that it is annoying and a negative). The others aren't dating anyone(whether
they would like to or not),and just occasionally rsfcking guys who meet them on Bumble.

The fact is that women would actually do far better staying the fuck away from men right now until it is actually determined, once and for all, whether women have any human rights whatsoever.

So that leaves the women bitter and angry, and they develop hostility towards other guys. You know, the ones who they
won't date lol. And they are totally oblivious to how their choices have led to their discontent.

They're trying to retain the right to have a choice.

In anything.

Mike

xyzzy

2021-07-12 11:46:05 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.

Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?

The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie

xyzzy

2021-07-12 12:54:00 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in 2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30 points, in 2020 he won them by 17.

However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by 30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.

All from this, and it includes more details than you could want:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

xyzzy

2021-07-12 13:18:55 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in 2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30 points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by 30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

Also:

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

Johnny RSFCootball

2021-07-12 14:24:53 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in 2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30 points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by 30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

Look, pla, your facts are no match for his questionable anecdotal evidence. Just accept the fact the the gop is now the party for masculine, virile men like Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson.

unclejr

2021-07-12 14:45:20 UTC

Post by Johnny RSFCootball

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in 2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30 points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by 30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

Look, pla, your facts are no match for his questionable anecdotal evidence. Just accept the fact the the gop is now the party for masculine, virile men like Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson.

TMML.

Johnny RSFCootball

2021-07-12 22:46:03 UTC

Post by Johnny RSFCootball

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in 2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30 points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by 30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

Look, pla, your facts are no match for his questionable anecdotal evidence. Just accept the fact the the gop is now the party for masculine, virile men like Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson.

TMML.

And don’t forget about that Falwell guy at Liberty who liked to watch his wife get nailed by her boyfriend. That’s a total boss move from a big time Republican.

unclejr

2021-07-13 02:25:18 UTC

Post by Johnny RSFCootball

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in 2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30 points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by 30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

Look, pla, your facts are no match for his questionable anecdotal evidence. Just accept the fact the the gop is now the party for masculine, virile men like Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson.

TMML.

And don’t forget about that Falwell guy at Liberty who liked to watch his wife get nailed by her boyfriend. That’s a total boss move from a big time Republican.

TMMLM!

JGibson

2021-07-12 18:21:00 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in 2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30 points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by 30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44

Those are obviously the effeminate beta males.

Post by xyzzy
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

michael anderson

2021-07-13 17:32:24 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in 2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30 points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by 30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44

Those are obviously the effeminate beta males.

Post by xyzzy
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

republicans tend to dominate amongst *successful* skilled trades types. Like the guy I paid a ton of money to cut this quartzite slab into countertops(I think they are called fabricators). He charged me 3100 dollars, and honestly the whole thing seemed to take about 5 hours. After the initial machine, not much involved in tons of expenses. So lets say he doesn't make over 600 an hour every job(lets say 450 instead), and lets say he doesn't even get 2000 hours total(lets downgrade it to 1700), thats still over 750k per year.....but my guess is he's working on projects people pay him for more than that.

Anyways, a guy like that is obviously a republican. The guy who shuffles papers for some meaningless federal agency? Yeah, he's a dem.

And the fabricator isn't a gung ho republican always talking about it. Instead he just goes off and does his own thing, mostly ignores it, but definately has disdain for bloated govt and useless
politicians telling him what to do and taking his money to enact things he doesn't want or need. But at the same time he doesnt obsess about it...he's got a life to live after all.

jimbr...@yahoo.com

2021-07-13 18:27:00 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in 2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30 points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by 30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44

Those are obviously the effeminate beta males.

Post by xyzzy
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

republicans tend to dominate amongst *successful* skilled trades types. Like the guy I paid a ton of money to cut this quartzite slab into countertops(I think they are called fabricators). He charged me 3100 dollars, and honestly the whole thing seemed to take about 5 hours. After the initial machine, not much involved in tons of expenses. So lets say he doesn't make over 600 an hour every job(lets say 450 instead), and lets say he doesn't even get 2000 hours total(lets downgrade it to 1700), thats still over 750k per year.....but my guess is he's working on projects people pay him for more than that.
Anyways, a guy like that is obviously a republican. The guy who shuffles papers for some meaningless federal agency? Yeah, he's a dem.
And the fabricator isn't a gung ho republican always talking about it. Instead he just goes off and does his own thing, mostly ignores it, but definately has disdain for bloated govt and useless
politicians telling him what to do and taking his money to enact things he doesn't want or need. But at the same time he doesnt obsess about it...he's got a life to live after all.

Did he install it as well?

A decade ago I had a 6' by 8' granite Island counter top, plus another 15' of regular granite countertop cut, finished and installed for $3800...and that included the granite.

xyzzy

2021-07-13 22:08:56 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came
out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting
Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in
2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30
points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by
30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating
market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't
win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So
yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among
dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44

Those are obviously the effeminate beta males.

Post by xyzzy
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

republicans tend to dominate amongst *successful* skilled trades types.
Like the guy I paid a ton of money to cut this quartzite slab into
countertops(I think they are called fabricators). He charged me 3100
dollars, and honestly the whole thing seemed to take about 5 hours.
After the initial machine, not much involved in tons of expenses. So
lets say he doesn't make over 600 an hour every job(lets say 450
instead), and lets say he doesn't even get 2000 hours total(lets
downgrade it to 1700), thats still over 750k per year.....but my guess
is he's working on projects people pay him for more than that.
Anyways, a guy like that is obviously a republican. The guy who shuffles
papers for some meaningless federal agency? Yeah, he's a dem.
And the fabricator isn't a gung ho republican always talking about it.
Instead he just goes off and does his own thing, mostly ignores it, but
definately has disdain for bloated govt and useless
politicians telling him what to do and taking his money to enact things
he doesn't want or need. But at the same time he doesnt obsess about
it...he's got a life to live after all.

Did he install it as well?
A decade ago I had a 6' by 8' granite Island counter top, plus another
15' of regular granite countertop cut, finished and installed for
$3800...and that included the granite.

I’m my experience countertop installers are terrible about following up to
get paid. Don’t know if it’s coincidence or the trade but:

Pla of mine had granite put in, they never billed him even after he kept
pestering him for bill. He never paid.

When I was getting my country house ready to sell the first contractor I
used did my kitchen then vanished. I had paid him for all but the granite
countertop. He never billed me or contacted me again (not that mysterious,
I later learned from his replacement that he decamped to Puerto Rico to do
Hurricane restoration work for FEMA).

--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie

michael anderson

2021-07-15 13:25:03 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came
out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting
Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in
2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30
points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by
30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating
market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't
win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So
yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among
dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44

Those are obviously the effeminate beta males.

Post by xyzzy
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

republicans tend to dominate amongst *successful* skilled trades types.
Like the guy I paid a ton of money to cut this quartzite slab into
countertops(I think they are called fabricators). He charged me 3100
dollars, and honestly the whole thing seemed to take about 5 hours.
After the initial machine, not much involved in tons of expenses. So
lets say he doesn't make over 600 an hour every job(lets say 450
instead), and lets say he doesn't even get 2000 hours total(lets
downgrade it to 1700), thats still over 750k per year.....but my guess
is he's working on projects people pay him for more than that.
Anyways, a guy like that is obviously a republican. The guy who shuffles
papers for some meaningless federal agency? Yeah, he's a dem.
And the fabricator isn't a gung ho republican always talking about it.
Instead he just goes off and does his own thing, mostly ignores it, but
definately has disdain for bloated govt and useless
politicians telling him what to do and taking his money to enact things
he doesn't want or need. But at the same time he doesnt obsess about
it...he's got a life to live after all.

Did he install it as well?
A decade ago I had a 6' by 8' granite Island counter top, plus another
15' of regular granite countertop cut, finished and installed for
$3800...and that included the granite.

I’m my experience countertop installers are terrible about following up to
Pla of mine had granite put in, they never billed him even after he kept
pestering him for bill. He never paid.
When I was getting my country house ready to sell the first contractor I
used did my kitchen then vanished. I had paid him for all but the granite
countertop. He never billed me or contacted me again (not that mysterious,
I later learned from his replacement that he decamped to Puerto Rico to do
Hurricane restoration work for FEMA).

weird...this guy isn't very insistent about getting his money either yet. Im going to pay him, but usually these people are
more on it. I guess he's making so much that he doesn't even have to worry about making sure he gets it in a timely manner.

If he makes 750k as I suspect he may make more than me this year depending on
what new stipend is for a contract about to renew. I should have gone to quartzite
fabricator school.

Post by xyzzy
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liberal personality.” — Altie

Ken Olson

2021-07-15 14:42:59 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came
out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting
Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in
2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30
points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by
30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating
market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't
win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So
yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among
dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44

Those are obviously the effeminate beta males.

Post by xyzzy
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

republicans tend to dominate amongst *successful* skilled trades types.
Like the guy I paid a ton of money to cut this quartzite slab into
countertops(I think they are called fabricators). He charged me 3100
dollars, and honestly the whole thing seemed to take about 5 hours.
After the initial machine, not much involved in tons of expenses. So
lets say he doesn't make over 600 an hour every job(lets say 450
instead), and lets say he doesn't even get 2000 hours total(lets
downgrade it to 1700), thats still over 750k per year.....but my guess
is he's working on projects people pay him for more than that.
Anyways, a guy like that is obviously a republican. The guy who shuffles
papers for some meaningless federal agency? Yeah, he's a dem.
And the fabricator isn't a gung ho republican always talking about it.
Instead he just goes off and does his own thing, mostly ignores it, but
definately has disdain for bloated govt and useless
politicians telling him what to do and taking his money to enact things
he doesn't want or need. But at the same time he doesnt obsess about
it...he's got a life to live after all.

Did he install it as well?
A decade ago I had a 6' by 8' granite Island counter top, plus another
15' of regular granite countertop cut, finished and installed for
$3800...and that included the granite.

weird...this guy isn't very insistent about getting his money either yet. Im going to pay him, but usually these people are
more on it. I guess he's making so much that he doesn't even have to worry about making sure he gets it in a timely manner.
If he makes 750k as I suspect he may make more than me this year depending on
what new stipend is for a contract about to renew. I should have gone to quartzite
fabricator school.

Post by xyzzy
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liberal personality.” — Altie

Orthopedic surgeons would make great cabinetmakers, furniture artisans,
and finish carpenters.

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Johnny RSFCootball

2021-07-16 03:16:37 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came
out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting
Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in
2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30
points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by
30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating
market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't
win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So
yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among
dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44

Those are obviously the effeminate beta males.

Post by xyzzy
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

republicans tend to dominate amongst *successful* skilled trades types.
Like the guy I paid a ton of money to cut this quartzite slab into
countertops(I think they are called fabricators). He charged me 3100
dollars, and honestly the whole thing seemed to take about 5 hours.
After the initial machine, not much involved in tons of expenses. So
lets say he doesn't make over 600 an hour every job(lets say 450
instead), and lets say he doesn't even get 2000 hours total(lets
downgrade it to 1700), thats still over 750k per year.....but my guess
is he's working on projects people pay him for more than that.
Anyways, a guy like that is obviously a republican. The guy who shuffles
papers for some meaningless federal agency? Yeah, he's a dem.
And the fabricator isn't a gung ho republican always talking about it.
Instead he just goes off and does his own thing, mostly ignores it, but
definately has disdain for bloated govt and useless
politicians telling him what to do and taking his money to enact things
he doesn't want or need. But at the same time he doesnt obsess about
it...he's got a life to live after all.

Did he install it as well?
A decade ago I had a 6' by 8' granite Island counter top, plus another
15' of regular granite countertop cut, finished and installed for
$3800...and that included the granite.

weird...this guy isn't very insistent about getting his money either yet. Im going to pay him, but usually these people are
more on it. I guess he's making so much that he doesn't even have to worry about making sure he gets it in a timely manner.
If he makes 750k as I suspect he may make more than me this year depending on
what new stipend is for a contract about to renew. I should have gone to quartzite
fabricator school.

Post by xyzzy
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie

U.S. Income distribution:

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44705.pdf

xyzzy

2021-07-16 14:58:32 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who
are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but

it isn’t in cities and wealthy

suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.
Plus, you are conflating MAGA with Republican which sadly has become more
accurate but is not totally accurate. Are you a MAGA? Is jb?
The assertion is not that women don’t want to date country club /chamber of
commerce Republicans. Just MAGAs. HTH.

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came
out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting
Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in
2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30
points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by
30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating
market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't
win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So
yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among
dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44

Those are obviously the effeminate beta males.

Post by xyzzy
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

republicans tend to dominate amongst *successful* skilled trades types.
Like the guy I paid a ton of money to cut this quartzite slab into
countertops(I think they are called fabricators). He charged me 3100
dollars, and honestly the whole thing seemed to take about 5 hours.
After the initial machine, not much involved in tons of expenses. So
lets say he doesn't make over 600 an hour every job(lets say 450
instead), and lets say he doesn't even get 2000 hours total(lets
downgrade it to 1700), thats still over 750k per year.....but my guess
is he's working on projects people pay him for more than that.
Anyways, a guy like that is obviously a republican. The guy who shuffles
papers for some meaningless federal agency? Yeah, he's a dem.
And the fabricator isn't a gung ho republican always talking about it.
Instead he just goes off and does his own thing, mostly ignores it, but
definately has disdain for bloated govt and useless
politicians telling him what to do and taking his money to enact things
he doesn't want or need. But at the same time he doesnt obsess about
it...he's got a life to live after all.

Did he install it as well?
A decade ago I had a 6' by 8' granite Island counter top, plus another
15' of regular granite countertop cut, finished and installed for
$3800...and that included the granite.

weird...this guy isn't very insistent about getting his money either yet.
Im going to pay him, but usually these people are
more on it. I guess he's making so much that he doesn't even have to
worry about making sure he gets it in a timely manner.
If he makes 750k as I suspect he may make more than me this year depending on
what new stipend is for a contract about to renew. I should have gone to quartzite
fabricator school.

Maybe but I think that’s short sighted. Any physically demanding job can
only be done for so long, limiting earning years. Also it’s probably a lot
easier for competition to get started. There may be some boom years like
now but I doubt that’s a way to build long term wealth for most people in
the field.

Or in other words:

There are a lot more wealthy retired doctors than wealthy retired
countertop installers, just sayin’.

--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie

michael anderson

2021-07-19 14:09:06 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who
are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but

it isn’t in cities and wealthy

Also if you look at the detailed exit poll analysis that just came
out, using only people verified to have voted, more men are voting
Democratic than before. In 2016 Trump won men by 11 points but in
2020 he only won them by 2 points. In 2016 Trump won white men by 30
points, in 2020 he won them by 17.
However, Biden won unmarried men by 10 points and unmarried women by
30 points, I would assume this is (for the most part) the dating
market. Further looking at the assumed dating market, Trump doesn't
win among either sex until the grouping is over 50 years old. So
yeah, among old white men and women Democrats are rare, but among
dating age men and women, Democrats are the majority.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIovkPfwUJvFZeFPdOi0fK8Rr7aOVFCYBzrlMG4Vjro/edit#gid=0

White men, college graduate: Biden 54-44

Those are obviously the effeminate beta males.

Post by xyzzy
White women, college graduate: Biden 59-40

republicans tend to dominate amongst *successful* skilled trades types.
Like the guy I paid a ton of money to cut this quartzite slab into
countertops(I think they are called fabricators). He charged me 3100
dollars, and honestly the whole thing seemed to take about 5 hours.
After the initial machine, not much involved in tons of expenses. So
lets say he doesn't make over 600 an hour every job(lets say 450
instead), and lets say he doesn't even get 2000 hours total(lets
downgrade it to 1700), thats still over 750k per year.....but my guess
is he's working on projects people pay him for more than that.
Anyways, a guy like that is obviously a republican. The guy who shuffles
papers for some meaningless federal agency? Yeah, he's a dem.
And the fabricator isn't a gung ho republican always talking about it.
Instead he just goes off and does his own thing, mostly ignores it, but
definately has disdain for bloated govt and useless
politicians telling him what to do and taking his money to enact things
he doesn't want or need. But at the same time he doesnt obsess about
it...he's got a life to live after all.

Did he install it as well?
A decade ago I had a 6' by 8' granite Island counter top, plus another
15' of regular granite countertop cut, finished and installed for
$3800...and that included the granite.

weird...this guy isn't very insistent about getting his money either yet.
Im going to pay him, but usually these people are
more on it. I guess he's making so much that he doesn't even have to
worry about making sure he gets it in a timely manner.
If he makes 750k as I suspect he may make more than me this year depending on
what new stipend is for a contract about to renew. I should have gone to quartzite
fabricator school.

without any student loans though and very short training/school, it's not like you need more than 3-4 straight at
750k or close to start building wealth.

Thats the great disadvantage people in medicine have. Yes, pretty much everyone goes to college these days. But then med school is 4 years. Where nobody works or makes any money. That 4 years of lost earnings is huge. Then residency/fellowship is going to be an average of 5 I'd guess(could be anywhere from 3 to 8 I guess). Yes, some people in fields like mine or internal medicine can make good money moonlighting(my last two years of residency I was over 175k in total earnings), but many fields can't because nobody is going to give privledges to someone not board eligible in many fields. And salary during residency/fellowship is 50-60k. Not to mention, most med students have built up
200-325k in loans, even many that go to state schools if their parents werent doctors or well off to help them out.

People tell graduating residents and fellows "oh, live modestly for 3-5 years and pay off all your loans,sock away money,etc"....yet these people have been sacrificing for 12+ years after high school and are in their early 30s likely. They did without the big house in the right neighborhood and all the other stuff all throughout residency/fellowship. They have a wife and young kids. It's not practical to put off living a comfortable life anymore.

Yes I make relatively good now, but I'm not a young man.

I'm not saying it's not a good choice....just that there are clearly other good choices too with some different financial
upsides.

RoddyMcCorley

2021-07-13 20:35:03 UTC

Post by michael anderson
republicans tend to dominate amongst *successful* skilled trades types. Like the guy I paid a ton of money to cut this quartzite slab into countertops(I think they are called fabricators). He charged me 3100 dollars, and honestly the whole thing seemed to take about 5 hours. After the initial machine, not much involved in tons of expenses. So lets say he doesn't make over 600 an hour every job(lets say 450 instead), and lets say he doesn't even get 2000 hours total(lets downgrade it to 1700), thats still over 750k per year.....but my guess is he's working on projects people pay him for more than that.
Anyways, a guy like that is obviously a republican. The guy who shuffles papers for some meaningless federal agency? Yeah, he's a dem.
And the fabricator isn't a gung ho republican always talking about it. Instead he just goes off and does his own thing, mostly ignores it, but definately has disdain for bloated govt and useless
politicians telling him what to do and taking his money to enact things he doesn't want or need. But at the same time he doesnt obsess about it...he's got a life to live after all.

You really do like to generalize and pull ideas out of your ass.

You probably paid WAY too much for the counter top. I had a fabricator
prepare and install in a beautiful granite pegmatite counter top (about
20 linear feet) and threw in a nice stainless steel sink for a total of
$1,700. If the guy you cite is doing all the work himself he is not
making $750K per year unless he finds a great supply of suckers. If he
could make anywhere near $750K he would have hourly workers doing these
tasks.

A close friend is an excellent finish carpenter and in much demand in an
affluent area. While he can easily work 50-60 hours per week, he is not
making a ton of money. I would be surprised if he earns $100K in a good
year. A competitive market is not going to support earnings much over
$100K per year.

Did you get bids on the work? Although some jobs are not worth bidding
you will find a wide disparity in many home repair/remodeling bids. I
paid a plumber $125 to replace a kitchen faucet (I've done it myself but
I'm retired and have the money to pay someone else to do it). My
son-in-law, living 30 miles away, had the same faucet installed and his
plumber charged him $400. Hell, I would have done it for that.

--
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In
practice, there is." Ruben Goldberg

michael anderson

2021-07-15 13:21:25 UTC

Post by RoddyMcCorley

republicans tend to dominate amongst *successful* skilled trades types. Like the guy I paid a ton of money to cut this quartzite slab into countertops(I think they are called fabricators). He charged me 3100 dollars, and honestly the whole thing seemed to take about 5 hours. After the initial machine, not much involved in tons of expenses. So lets say he doesn't make over 600 an hour every job(lets say 450 instead), and lets say he doesn't even get 2000 hours total(lets downgrade it to 1700), thats still over 750k per year.....but my guess is he's working on projects people pay him for more than that.
Anyways, a guy like that is obviously a republican. The guy who shuffles papers for some meaningless federal agency? Yeah, he's a dem.
And the fabricator isn't a gung ho republican always talking about it. Instead he just goes off and does his own thing, mostly ignores it, but definately has disdain for bloated govt and useless
politicians telling him what to do and taking his money to enact things he doesn't want or need. But at the same time he doesnt obsess about it...he's got a life to live after all.

yeah, they were all 2900-3300 when demo of the existing was included.

I paid a lot for the quartzite slab so I wanted it done right. The guy I went with wasn't the most expensive though

The people that do the backsplash are less expensive but still very expensive.

Michael Falkner

2021-07-14 04:12:40 UTC

So when'd you stop raping your girlfriend, bitch?

It's good to know there are people like you who can make me believe I would've been better off a serial rapist than a decent human being.

Mike

michael anderson

2021-07-12 18:03:47 UTC

Post by xyzzy
…to get laid.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1273594

Interesting, but also misses this point: The number of democrat, white,
clearly heterosexual men is at an all time low these days, so who are women dating?

Maybe in Alabama that’s the case but it isn’t in cities and wealthy
suburbs, coincidentally places women like to live.

lol....top guys who are scoring elite women are doing so because they are attractive, fun to be around, outgoing, successful,etc....it has nothing to do with their politics. I know plenty of guys who
fall in that category(or usually more know of them) and while they also are not MAGA types for the most part they definately aren't the
liberal types who go to BLM rallies and wear t-shirts supporting women's rights and such.

As for alabama, yes it's a poor and rural state, but unfortunately the little area of birmingham(iow the 3500-5k people that I live, shop, walk, etc around) I am in is more white and liberal. I did that link you guys posted a bit ago and like 60-65% of my neighbors are democrat(white democrats). It's not a typical area for Alabama; probably the only little pocket in the state that has a lot of white democrats.

I haven't looked at any hard data, but most of these people are fairly apolitical. They may identify more as one side than another, but they aren't really that into it. Which makes sense- if I had those qualities and
could go out and hang out with awesome women and had a large cool friend circle and such, I'd be doing that rather than reading rsfc so I can click on political links(which is fun in a way, but cute women >>>>> political stories)

And that goes for women too. Most of the 9+ women I know of are pretty apolitical. Maybe because it's here in Alabama they lean more conservative than not, but most of the really hawt women are not super conservative. But the stereotype of the very unnattractive very liberal woman is also true. but like with men, the really attractive women who have a lot going for them just don't know or talk about politics a lot. Like this med student who is rotating with me now- a solid 8.5-9, and she didn't even know who any of the senators in Alabama were and she's lived here her whole life lol......

Eric Ramon

2021-07-12 21:46:51 UTC