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2007-04-15 20:04:28 UTC
More people sign petition for 911 FACTS
Bill Doyle and Bob McIlvaine today filed a petition with the National
Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) seeking correction of
inaccurate factual statements and analysis in NIST's reports on the
destruction of the Twin Towers.
Mr. Doyle is the representative of the largest group of 9/11 families, the
Coalition of 9/11 Families*, and lost his own son Joey in the collapse of
the twin towers.
Mr. McIlvaine, an outspoken 9/11 truth activist, lost his son Bobby when the
World Trade Centers were destroyed.
Another prominent 9/11 family member supports the petition, but decided for
personal reasons not to sign.
Also signing the petition are:
. Physicist Dr. Steven Jones
. Scientist and former Site Manager for Environmental Health Laboratories, a
division of Underwriters Laboratories, Kevin Ryan
. Architect Richard Gage (a member of the American Institute of Architects,
who has been a practicing architect for 20 years and has been responsible
for the production of construction documents for numerous steel-framed and
fire-protected buildings for uses in many different areas, including
education, civic, rapid transit and industrial use)
. And the group Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice
The petition can be read here. It is very strong and solid, and well worth a
read.
Quote:
9/11 FACT SHEET
Answers to Frequently Asked Questions
1. Don't all the high-level officials agree on what happened on 9/11?
No. Numerous present and former high-level military leaders and
politicians have questioned the administration's version of 9/11.
2. Isn't 9/11 a partisan political issue, where extremists in one
party are simply trying to smear the other party for political gain?
No, credible people from across the political spectrum question 9/11,
including prominent conservatives, prominent liberals, and prominent
centrists.
3. Isn't it disrespectful to the victims of 9/11 and their families to
question the events of that day?
No. Many of the families of the victims question the official story
and are demanding that the truth be disclosed. The same is true of many
dying heroes - the first responders who worked tirelessly to save lives on
and after 9/11 - and are soon to become victims of the 9/11 attacks
themselves. See this article.
4. Isn't it clear that Muslims carried out 9/11, and the war on terror
is a clash of civilizations and religions? Therefore, isn't 9/11 skepticism
harmful to our faith? And aren't the people questioning 9/11 anti-Semites?
Actually, 9/11 truth is a vital issue for all people of faith. That is
why prominent Christian theologians state that 9/11 was an inside job.
Moreover, many people of Jewish faith question 9/11. Indeed, prominent
Jewish scholars and rabbis say that uncovering the truth of 9/11 has the
power to bring positive, lasting change to our nation and to our world.
5. Isn't this kind of thinking really a psychological problem?
Not at all. Some very prominent psychologists question the
government's version of 9/11.
6. Aren't conspiracy theories anti-American, and isn't all the
questioning of 9/11 part of what's wrong with America today?
Questioning our government is part of what it means to be a patriot
and to love your country. People who question 9/11 are patriots who love
their country.
7. Doesn't questioning 9/11 distract from much more important issues
facing America today?
On the contrary, it is one of the very most important issues facing
our country, and is closely connected with other problems we face.
8. But the government would NEVER hurt its own people. At least not
intentionally.
Actually, the U.S. government -- and many other Western governments --
have done so before. Initially, the Joint Chiefs of Staff actually approved
a plan to carry out terrorist attacks and kill U.S. citizens and blame it on
Cuba, as a justification for invading Cuba. And a government informant has
stated that he tried to stop the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, but that
the FBI intentionally let the bombing happen . There are many other examples
of other governments killing their own people for political gain, and the
U.S. government killing its own as well.
As additional examples of the U.S. government letting U.S. citizens
die based upon deceptions, many people breathed in highly toxic dust near
ground zero, after the government knowingly misrepresented the risk, going
as far as discouraging first responders from wearing masks. The U.S.
government also misled the American people into the Iraqi war, causing
thousands of American deaths.
9. Terrorists crashing planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon
was wholly unexpected in 2001, wasn't it?
No, it was not unexpected.
10. But there is always confusion in any battle situation. Wasn't it
the "fog of war" which prevented a successful response to the 9/11 attacks?
It was not the fog of war. Instead, it was the multiple war games,
including hijack exercises involving real planes, and the injection of fake
radar blips onto air traffic controller's screens which prevented the good
people in the military from stopping the attacks from succeeding against
their targets in New York and at the Pentagon. The dedicated people in the
U.S. military were tricked and betrayed, so that they could not do their
job.
11. Wouldn't a huge conspiracy involving thousands of people have been
necessary to carry out 9/11, and wouldn't someone have spilled the beans by
now if there really was a conspiracy?
Not necessarily. In fact, a small handful of people could have pulled
it off.
12. Let's get back to the government's failure to stop or intercept
the attacks. If the U.S. government wasn't perfect in stopping the 9/11
attacks, wasn't it due to a series of innocent mistakes or -- at the very
worst -- incompetence?
Initially, the incompetence argument doesn't really pan out, and
appearances may be deceiving. And there are many examples of the U.S. faking
intelligence in order to promote its political goals.
Moreover, the government has not acted like it is trying to close
vulnerabilities or fix problems which supposedly were unforeseeable before
9/11. Why wouldn't such vulnerabilities be corrected if they were the real
cause of 9/11?
And there has been a clear government cover-up of the facts
surrounding 9/11. Why would the government work so hard to cover up the true
facts of 9/11, going so far as to repeatedly misrepresent the facts and
change its story, if incompetence was the only problem with the official
story?
And, apparently, fake evidence was planted to implicate certain people
for 9/11. Why would fake evidence be needed if the official story was true?
Do innocent people plant fake evidence?
13. Didn't a government agency come clean about its mistaken timeline,
solving the whole 9/11 "conspiracy" once and for all?
Norad's newest "confession" is just the latest of multiple, completely
conflicting versions of what happened on 9/11 (also listen to this
interview).
Moreover, the latest statements by the military simply attempt to
scapegoat one government agency, since the previous attempts to blame other
agencies made no sense.
14. Isn't talk about "demolition" of the Twin Towers just a crazy
theory by a couple of nutty people?
In fact, a lot of credible eyewitness testimony supports this theory,
and more and more credible experts are discussing this theory every day.
15. But no one could have planted all of the explosives needed to
bring down the Twin Towers without people noticing, right?
No, that is not true.
16. If rogue elements within the U.S. government did cause 9/11, why
would they have used bombs to bring down the Twin Towers, when crashing
planes into the buildings would have been sufficient to act as a "Pearl
Harbor" type justification for war?
Apparently, for its shock and awe effect, which made for a very
overwhelmed, afraid, and thus docile and compliant population.
17. If the government's account of 9/11 is not accurate, wouldn't the
media have been "all over it"? Isn't the fact that most mainstream media
sources don't spend much time covering these questions show there's nothing
there?
No. In fact many journalists are warning that the true story is not
being reported. See this announcement and this video. See also this
interview with award-winning journalists about censorship in American media.
Indeed, referring to an unrelated topic, a leading MSNBC news
commentator has said that there is self-censorship in the American media,
and that:
''You can rock the boat, but you can never say that the entire ocean
is in trouble .... You cannot say: By the way, there's something wrong with
our .... system".
18. I've heard claims made by the so-called "9/11 Truth Movement"
which have turned out to be false. Doesn't that invalidate the whole 9/11
thing?
No, for two reasons. First, there are so many lines of evidence which
overwhelmingly prove that 9/11 was an inside job, that even if one or two
theories are disproven, the basic thesis still stands.
Moreover, there are some people who are simply sloppy in their
thinking, and who throw out unfounded theories which do not stand up under
scrutiny. In addition, there are, unfortunately, disruptive people who are
working hard to make crazy claims to intentionally discredit the movement.
This is a traditional tactic for undermining those who question the
government.
Bill Doyle and Bob McIlvaine today filed a petition with the National
Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) seeking correction of
inaccurate factual statements and analysis in NIST's reports on the
destruction of the Twin Towers.
Mr. Doyle is the representative of the largest group of 9/11 families, the
Coalition of 9/11 Families*, and lost his own son Joey in the collapse of
the twin towers.
Mr. McIlvaine, an outspoken 9/11 truth activist, lost his son Bobby when the
World Trade Centers were destroyed.
Another prominent 9/11 family member supports the petition, but decided for
personal reasons not to sign.
Also signing the petition are:
. Physicist Dr. Steven Jones
. Scientist and former Site Manager for Environmental Health Laboratories, a
division of Underwriters Laboratories, Kevin Ryan
. Architect Richard Gage (a member of the American Institute of Architects,
who has been a practicing architect for 20 years and has been responsible
for the production of construction documents for numerous steel-framed and
fire-protected buildings for uses in many different areas, including
education, civic, rapid transit and industrial use)
. And the group Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice
The petition can be read here. It is very strong and solid, and well worth a
read.
Quote:
9/11 FACT SHEET
Answers to Frequently Asked Questions
1. Don't all the high-level officials agree on what happened on 9/11?
No. Numerous present and former high-level military leaders and
politicians have questioned the administration's version of 9/11.
2. Isn't 9/11 a partisan political issue, where extremists in one
party are simply trying to smear the other party for political gain?
No, credible people from across the political spectrum question 9/11,
including prominent conservatives, prominent liberals, and prominent
centrists.
3. Isn't it disrespectful to the victims of 9/11 and their families to
question the events of that day?
No. Many of the families of the victims question the official story
and are demanding that the truth be disclosed. The same is true of many
dying heroes - the first responders who worked tirelessly to save lives on
and after 9/11 - and are soon to become victims of the 9/11 attacks
themselves. See this article.
4. Isn't it clear that Muslims carried out 9/11, and the war on terror
is a clash of civilizations and religions? Therefore, isn't 9/11 skepticism
harmful to our faith? And aren't the people questioning 9/11 anti-Semites?
Actually, 9/11 truth is a vital issue for all people of faith. That is
why prominent Christian theologians state that 9/11 was an inside job.
Moreover, many people of Jewish faith question 9/11. Indeed, prominent
Jewish scholars and rabbis say that uncovering the truth of 9/11 has the
power to bring positive, lasting change to our nation and to our world.
5. Isn't this kind of thinking really a psychological problem?
Not at all. Some very prominent psychologists question the
government's version of 9/11.
6. Aren't conspiracy theories anti-American, and isn't all the
questioning of 9/11 part of what's wrong with America today?
Questioning our government is part of what it means to be a patriot
and to love your country. People who question 9/11 are patriots who love
their country.
7. Doesn't questioning 9/11 distract from much more important issues
facing America today?
On the contrary, it is one of the very most important issues facing
our country, and is closely connected with other problems we face.
8. But the government would NEVER hurt its own people. At least not
intentionally.
Actually, the U.S. government -- and many other Western governments --
have done so before. Initially, the Joint Chiefs of Staff actually approved
a plan to carry out terrorist attacks and kill U.S. citizens and blame it on
Cuba, as a justification for invading Cuba. And a government informant has
stated that he tried to stop the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, but that
the FBI intentionally let the bombing happen . There are many other examples
of other governments killing their own people for political gain, and the
U.S. government killing its own as well.
As additional examples of the U.S. government letting U.S. citizens
die based upon deceptions, many people breathed in highly toxic dust near
ground zero, after the government knowingly misrepresented the risk, going
as far as discouraging first responders from wearing masks. The U.S.
government also misled the American people into the Iraqi war, causing
thousands of American deaths.
9. Terrorists crashing planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon
was wholly unexpected in 2001, wasn't it?
No, it was not unexpected.
10. But there is always confusion in any battle situation. Wasn't it
the "fog of war" which prevented a successful response to the 9/11 attacks?
It was not the fog of war. Instead, it was the multiple war games,
including hijack exercises involving real planes, and the injection of fake
radar blips onto air traffic controller's screens which prevented the good
people in the military from stopping the attacks from succeeding against
their targets in New York and at the Pentagon. The dedicated people in the
U.S. military were tricked and betrayed, so that they could not do their
job.
11. Wouldn't a huge conspiracy involving thousands of people have been
necessary to carry out 9/11, and wouldn't someone have spilled the beans by
now if there really was a conspiracy?
Not necessarily. In fact, a small handful of people could have pulled
it off.
12. Let's get back to the government's failure to stop or intercept
the attacks. If the U.S. government wasn't perfect in stopping the 9/11
attacks, wasn't it due to a series of innocent mistakes or -- at the very
worst -- incompetence?
Initially, the incompetence argument doesn't really pan out, and
appearances may be deceiving. And there are many examples of the U.S. faking
intelligence in order to promote its political goals.
Moreover, the government has not acted like it is trying to close
vulnerabilities or fix problems which supposedly were unforeseeable before
9/11. Why wouldn't such vulnerabilities be corrected if they were the real
cause of 9/11?
And there has been a clear government cover-up of the facts
surrounding 9/11. Why would the government work so hard to cover up the true
facts of 9/11, going so far as to repeatedly misrepresent the facts and
change its story, if incompetence was the only problem with the official
story?
And, apparently, fake evidence was planted to implicate certain people
for 9/11. Why would fake evidence be needed if the official story was true?
Do innocent people plant fake evidence?
13. Didn't a government agency come clean about its mistaken timeline,
solving the whole 9/11 "conspiracy" once and for all?
Norad's newest "confession" is just the latest of multiple, completely
conflicting versions of what happened on 9/11 (also listen to this
interview).
Moreover, the latest statements by the military simply attempt to
scapegoat one government agency, since the previous attempts to blame other
agencies made no sense.
14. Isn't talk about "demolition" of the Twin Towers just a crazy
theory by a couple of nutty people?
In fact, a lot of credible eyewitness testimony supports this theory,
and more and more credible experts are discussing this theory every day.
15. But no one could have planted all of the explosives needed to
bring down the Twin Towers without people noticing, right?
No, that is not true.
16. If rogue elements within the U.S. government did cause 9/11, why
would they have used bombs to bring down the Twin Towers, when crashing
planes into the buildings would have been sufficient to act as a "Pearl
Harbor" type justification for war?
Apparently, for its shock and awe effect, which made for a very
overwhelmed, afraid, and thus docile and compliant population.
17. If the government's account of 9/11 is not accurate, wouldn't the
media have been "all over it"? Isn't the fact that most mainstream media
sources don't spend much time covering these questions show there's nothing
there?
No. In fact many journalists are warning that the true story is not
being reported. See this announcement and this video. See also this
interview with award-winning journalists about censorship in American media.
Indeed, referring to an unrelated topic, a leading MSNBC news
commentator has said that there is self-censorship in the American media,
and that:
''You can rock the boat, but you can never say that the entire ocean
is in trouble .... You cannot say: By the way, there's something wrong with
our .... system".
18. I've heard claims made by the so-called "9/11 Truth Movement"
which have turned out to be false. Doesn't that invalidate the whole 9/11
thing?
No, for two reasons. First, there are so many lines of evidence which
overwhelmingly prove that 9/11 was an inside job, that even if one or two
theories are disproven, the basic thesis still stands.
Moreover, there are some people who are simply sloppy in their
thinking, and who throw out unfounded theories which do not stand up under
scrutiny. In addition, there are, unfortunately, disruptive people who are
working hard to make crazy claims to intentionally discredit the movement.
This is a traditional tactic for undermining those who question the
government.