Discussion:
Yet More Joys Of Globalism - RAC Give 200 British Jobs To India !
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Chris X
2005-09-30 07:45:48 UTC
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm

Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the end
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.

"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there," said
an RAC spokeswoman.

A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss voluntary
redundancy and redeployment options.

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Jon°
2005-09-30 07:56:22 UTC
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Same again, boycott the RAC, there are plenty of other motor orgs. and many
of them give better services then the RAC at lower prices.

Come on, join the fight-back:

BOYCOTT THOSE FIRMS THAT EXPORT BRITISH JOBS.
"Chris X" <***@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
Diversity Isn't A Codeword
2005-09-30 12:28:57 UTC
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Post by Jon°
Same again, boycott the RAC, there are plenty of other motor orgs. and many
of them give better services then the RAC at lower prices.
BOYCOTT THOSE FIRMS THAT EXPORT BRITISH JOBS.
HERE! HERE!
Jones
2005-09-30 13:29:06 UTC
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Post by Jon°
Same again, boycott the RAC, there are plenty of other motor orgs. and many
of them give better services then the RAC at lower prices.
BOYCOTT THOSE FIRMS THAT EXPORT BRITISH JOBS.
Are you going to boycott the BNP for giving printing jobs to Eastern Europe.
Paul Hyett
2005-10-01 06:57:39 UTC
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Post by Jon°
Same again, boycott the RAC, there are plenty of other motor orgs. and many
of them give better services then the RAC at lower prices.
BOYCOTT THOSE FIRMS THAT EXPORT BRITISH JOBS.
What can you do if/when they're all jumping on the bandwagon though?
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Chris X
2005-10-01 10:23:47 UTC
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Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Jon°
Same again, boycott the RAC, there are plenty of other motor orgs. and many
of them give better services then the RAC at lower prices.
BOYCOTT THOSE FIRMS THAT EXPORT BRITISH JOBS.
What can you do if/when they're all jumping on the bandwagon though?
Very little, but the important thing is to keep highlighting it when it
happens and to draw people's attention to the evils of globalism - and
therefore point them in the direction of the only political party which is
dedicated to ending it. Of course, the fact that the party in question is
mostly too busy indulging in petty bouts of anti-Moslem hysteria doesn't
help our cause, but since it's the only one with such anti-globalist
credentials we must join, contribute and try to get the emphasis shifted.

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"There is only one start you can make, and that is a start toward being
England. A refusal to be a province of Israel, or an outpost of
Yankee-Judaea."

-Ezra Pound

http://www.bnp.org.uk
http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/policies.htm
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Paul Hyett
2005-10-02 06:35:56 UTC
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Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Jon°
Same again, boycott the RAC, there are plenty of other motor orgs. and many
of them give better services then the RAC at lower prices.
BOYCOTT THOSE FIRMS THAT EXPORT BRITISH JOBS.
What can you do if/when they're all jumping on the bandwagon though?
Very little, but the important thing is to keep highlighting it when it
happens and to draw people's attention to the evils of globalism - and
therefore point them in the direction of the only political party which is
dedicated to ending it.
And there's the flaw in the scheme.
Post by Chris X
Of course, the fact that the party in question is
mostly too busy indulging in petty bouts of anti-Moslem hysteria doesn't
help our cause
Not to mention anti-Americanism, etc.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Chris X
2005-10-02 08:47:25 UTC
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Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Jon°
Same again, boycott the RAC, there are plenty of other motor orgs. and many
of them give better services then the RAC at lower prices.
BOYCOTT THOSE FIRMS THAT EXPORT BRITISH JOBS.
What can you do if/when they're all jumping on the bandwagon though?
Very little, but the important thing is to keep highlighting it when it
happens and to draw people's attention to the evils of globalism - and
therefore point them in the direction of the only political party which is
dedicated to ending it.
And there's the flaw in the scheme.
You're total lack of any alternative ideas is noted, and symptomatic of your
toadying towards the State.
Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Chris X
Of course, the fact that the party in question is
mostly too busy indulging in petty bouts of anti-Moslem hysteria doesn't
help our cause
Not to mention anti-Americanism, etc.
There's nothing wrong with demanding that your nation's foreign and economic
policy, along with its culture, should be defined by the people of your
nation and not by the "elected" dictators in Washington and Tel Aviv.
Paul Hyett
2005-10-03 05:43:14 UTC
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Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Chris X
Very little, but the important thing is to keep highlighting it when it
happens and to draw people's attention to the evils of globalism - and
therefore point them in the direction of the only political party which is
dedicated to ending it.
And there's the flaw in the scheme.
You're total lack of any alternative ideas is noted, and symptomatic of your
toadying towards the State.
Given the choice of the OPWTN, or the BNP, I consider the former very
much the lesser of 2 evils.
Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Chris X
Of course, the fact that the party in question is
mostly too busy indulging in petty bouts of anti-Moslem hysteria doesn't
help our cause
Not to mention anti-Americanism, etc.
There's nothing wrong with demanding that your nation's foreign and economic
policy, along with its culture, should be defined by the people of your
nation and not by the "elected" dictators in Washington and Tel Aviv.
I made no mention of Israel - and the idea that Israel has any
significant influence over American or British policy is total raving
right-wing paranoia!
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Chris X
2005-10-03 17:39:04 UTC
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Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Chris X
Very little, but the important thing is to keep highlighting it when it
happens and to draw people's attention to the evils of globalism - and
therefore point them in the direction of the only political party which is
dedicated to ending it.
And there's the flaw in the scheme.
You're total lack of any alternative ideas is noted, and symptomatic of your
toadying towards the State.
Given the choice of the OPWTN, or the BNP, I consider the former very
much the lesser of 2 evils.
*You* would. We all know why.
Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Chris X
Of course, the fact that the party in question is
mostly too busy indulging in petty bouts of anti-Moslem hysteria doesn't
help our cause
Not to mention anti-Americanism, etc.
There's nothing wrong with demanding that your nation's foreign and economic
policy, along with its culture, should be defined by the people of your
nation and not by the "elected" dictators in Washington and Tel Aviv.
I made no mention of Israel - and the idea that Israel has any
significant influence over American or British policy is total raving
right-wing paranoia!
No paranoia, just a fact that "Israel" is the 51st State of Moronica.
onlyme
2005-10-03 18:21:54 UTC
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"Paul Hyett" <***@nojunkmailplease.co.uk> wrote in message > Given the
choice of the OPWTN, or the BNP, I consider the former very
Post by Paul Hyett
much the lesser of 2 evils.
BNP's claim to notoriety.........some racist comments.....afew small-scale
riots which some BNP supporters may or may not have started

Tony Blair's claim to notoriety......where the hell do we start! (how many
dead in Iraq now?)

Lesser of the two evils....are you deranged!
Post by Paul Hyett
- and the idea that Israel has any
significant influence over American or British policy is total raving
right-wing paranoia!
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
I've left your name on that last comment so in years to come, your
ancestors will be able to see just how mad you were!
Paul Hyett
2005-10-04 06:28:59 UTC
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Post by Paul Hyett
Given the
choice of the OPWTN, or the BNP, I consider the former very
Post by Paul Hyett
much the lesser of 2 evils.
BNP's claim to notoriety.........some racist comments.....afew small-scale
riots which some BNP supporters may or may not have started
Tony Blair's claim to notoriety......where the hell do we start! (how many
dead in Iraq now?)
Lesser of the two evils....are you deranged!
We don't live in Iraq!
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Chris X
2005-10-04 07:38:47 UTC
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Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Paul Hyett
Given the
choice of the OPWTN, or the BNP, I consider the former very
Post by Paul Hyett
much the lesser of 2 evils.
BNP's claim to notoriety.........some racist comments.....afew small-scale
riots which some BNP supporters may or may not have started
Tony Blair's claim to notoriety......where the hell do we start! (how many
dead in Iraq now?)
Lesser of the two evils....are you deranged!
We don't live in Iraq!
What's that got to do with choosing between the OPWTN and the BNP ?
Paul Hyett
2005-10-04 17:39:34 UTC
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Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
We don't live in Iraq!
What's that got to do with choosing between the OPWTN and the BNP ?
The BNP's repressive regime would be here, not 2500 miles away.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Chris X
2005-10-04 18:27:29 UTC
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Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
We don't live in Iraq!
What's that got to do with choosing between the OPWTN and the BNP ?
The BNP's repressive regime would be here, not 2500 miles away.
You're pathetic.
Frank F. Matthews
2005-10-04 20:33:33 UTC
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Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Paul Hyett
Given the
choice of the OPWTN, or the BNP, I consider the former very
Post by Paul Hyett
much the lesser of 2 evils.
BNP's claim to notoriety.........some racist comments.....afew small-scale
riots which some BNP supporters may or may not have started
Tony Blair's claim to notoriety......where the hell do we start! (how many
dead in Iraq now?)
Lesser of the two evils....are you deranged!
We don't live in Iraq!
What's that got to do with choosing between the OPWTN and the BNP ?
I suspect that he doesn't give a damn what happens in Iraq but is
concerned about the BNP having power in the UK.
Chris X
2005-10-04 20:37:56 UTC
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Post by Frank F. Matthews
Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Paul Hyett
Given the
choice of the OPWTN, or the BNP, I consider the former very
Post by Paul Hyett
much the lesser of 2 evils.
BNP's claim to notoriety.........some racist comments.....afew small-scale
riots which some BNP supporters may or may not have started
Tony Blair's claim to notoriety......where the hell do we start! (how many
dead in Iraq now?)
Lesser of the two evils....are you deranged!
We don't live in Iraq!
What's that got to do with choosing between the OPWTN and the BNP ?
I suspect that he doesn't give a damn what happens in Iraq but is
concerned about the BNP having power in the UK.
Oh yeah, I know he's a useful idiot .... but how about letting him speak for
himself ?
Frank F. Matthews
2005-10-05 00:50:22 UTC
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Post by Chris X
Post by Frank F. Matthews
Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Paul Hyett
Given the
choice of the OPWTN, or the BNP, I consider the former very
Post by Paul Hyett
much the lesser of 2 evils.
BNP's claim to notoriety.........some racist comments.....afew small-scale
riots which some BNP supporters may or may not have started
Tony Blair's claim to notoriety......where the hell do we start! (how many
dead in Iraq now?)
Lesser of the two evils....are you deranged!
We don't live in Iraq!
What's that got to do with choosing between the OPWTN and the BNP ?
I suspect that he doesn't give a damn what happens in Iraq but is
concerned about the BNP having power in the UK.
Oh yeah, I know he's a useful idiot .... but how about letting him speak for
himself ?
You asked a general question not one particularly to him. If you ask
questions on a public forum you have to expect answers from anyone who
feels in the mood. If you want to have a private discussion include
your real addresses and then use them.
Paul Hyett
2005-10-05 05:47:26 UTC
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In uk.politics.misc on Tue, 4 Oct 2005 at 20:33:33, Frank F. Matthews
Post by Frank F. Matthews
Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
We don't live in Iraq!
What's that got to do with choosing between the OPWTN and the BNP ?
I suspect that he doesn't give a damn what happens in Iraq but is
concerned about the BNP having power in the UK.
Correct.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Chris X
2005-10-05 06:55:20 UTC
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Post by Paul Hyett
In uk.politics.misc on Tue, 4 Oct 2005 at 20:33:33, Frank F. Matthews
Post by Frank F. Matthews
Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
We don't live in Iraq!
What's that got to do with choosing between the OPWTN and the BNP ?
I suspect that he doesn't give a damn what happens in Iraq but is
concerned about the BNP having power in the UK.
That will be the will of the people, expressed through the ballot box. So
hyett is not only a useful idiot, but also no friend of democracy, it
appears.
Paul Hyett
2005-10-06 06:27:45 UTC
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Post by Chris X
Post by Frank F. Matthews
Post by Chris X
What's that got to do with choosing between the OPWTN and the BNP ?
I suspect that he doesn't give a damn what happens in Iraq but is
concerned about the BNP having power in the UK.
That will be the will of the people, expressed through the ballot box. So
hyett is not only a useful idiot, but also no friend of democracy, it
appears.
Yet again you make up bullshit and claim that's what I meant. :(

I dare say a majority of the population aren't happy about whichever
party is in charge, but that doesn't mean they are anti-democracy.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Chris X
2005-10-06 08:22:50 UTC
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Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Chris X
Post by Frank F. Matthews
Post by Chris X
What's that got to do with choosing between the OPWTN and the BNP ?
I suspect that he doesn't give a damn what happens in Iraq but is
concerned about the BNP having power in the UK.
That will be the will of the people, expressed through the ballot box. So
hyett is not only a useful idiot, but also no friend of democracy, it
appears.
Yet again you make up bullshit and claim that's what I meant. :(
I dare say a majority of the population aren't happy about whichever
party is in charge, but that doesn't mean they are anti-democracy.
"Which ever Party is in charge" .... LOL !
Nice to see you can "do humour" this early in the morning.

m***@ntlworld.nospamta.com
2005-10-02 21:21:45 UTC
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On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:23:47 +0100, "Chris X"
Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Jon°
Same again, boycott the RAC, there are plenty of other motor orgs. and many
of them give better services then the RAC at lower prices.
BOYCOTT THOSE FIRMS THAT EXPORT BRITISH JOBS.
What can you do if/when they're all jumping on the bandwagon though?
Very little, but the important thing is to keep highlighting it when it
happens and to draw people's attention to the evils of globalism
LOL.
--
cheers

matt
Jay
2005-10-03 10:18:12 UTC
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Post by m***@ntlworld.nospamta.com
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:23:47 +0100, "Chris X"
Post by Chris X
Post by Paul Hyett
Post by Jon°
Same again, boycott the RAC, there are plenty of other motor orgs. and many
of them give better services then the RAC at lower prices.
BOYCOTT THOSE FIRMS THAT EXPORT BRITISH JOBS.
What can you do if/when they're all jumping on the bandwagon though?
Very little, but the important thing is to keep highlighting it when it
happens and to draw people's attention to the evils of globalism
LOL.
--
cheers
matt
I do hope you laugh out loud when your job, or one of your relatives
jobs is exported to the third world.
Oh, how funny that will be.
Or when you're broken down on the M6 in the rain and the man on the
phone can't quite grasp what M6 means and every time you say your car
registration he gets it wrong cos he can't speak the lingo, and in the
end you walk to a garage, all the while slaging off the RAC or any
other organisation that sold out and shafted the British people.
How funny that will be.
h
2005-10-03 10:59:23 UTC
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Post by Jay
Or when you're broken down on the M6 in the rain and the man on the
phone can't quite grasp what M6 means and every time you say your car
registration he gets it wrong cos he can't speak the lingo,
You've never talked to some Scotch git in a call centre then:-)))
onlyme
2005-09-30 08:15:31 UTC
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Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the end
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there," said
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss voluntary
redundancy and redeployment options.
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I'm with the RAC.....Now THAT'S something I can do something about right
now....just give me 10 mins.....
Jay
2005-09-30 12:53:40 UTC
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Post by Chris X
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the
end
Post by Chris X
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there,"
said
Post by Chris X
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss
voluntary
Post by Chris X
redundancy and redeployment options.
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I'm with the RAC.....Now THAT'S something I can do something about right
now....just give me 10 mins.....
Just sent them an e-mail, below. Will post their reply when/if I get
one.

"I have read this morning that the RAC is to sack some British workers
and export their jobs to India.
Do you think this is a good idea? I most certainly do not and tend to
boycott companies whom take this route. If it is to save money, will
the cost of membership be reduced? I suspect not.
Please confirm whether the story is correct or not, as I shall be
cancelling my Direct Debit if indeed you are continuing with this
anti-British action."
Jon°
2005-09-30 13:04:14 UTC
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Well done, I am with the AA (contract hire car) so I cannot do the same.
However if the AA take the same journey I will try and change my road
insurer.
"Jay" <***@pcandy.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
Dr. Sunil
2005-09-30 13:07:33 UTC
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It'd make waiting for them when you break-down a hell of a lot longer :)
Jon°
2005-09-30 13:37:59 UTC
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Not at all, many of the smaller companies offer a quicker and better service
then the AA and the RAC. I only stay with the AA because I have a contract
hire car which comes with the AA package.
"Dr. Sunil" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
Diversity Isn't A Codeword
2005-09-30 14:00:34 UTC
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Post by Jay
Post by Chris X
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the
end
Post by Chris X
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there,"
said
Post by Chris X
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss
voluntary
Post by Chris X
redundancy and redeployment options.
****************************
I'm with the RAC.....Now THAT'S something I can do something about right
now....just give me 10 mins.....
Just sent them an e-mail, below. Will post their reply when/if I get
one.
"I have read this morning that the RAC is to sack some British workers
and export their jobs to India.
Do you think this is a good idea? I most certainly do not and tend to
boycott companies whom take this route. If it is to save money, will
the cost of membership be reduced? I suspect not.
Please confirm whether the story is correct or not, as I shall be
cancelling my Direct Debit if indeed you are continuing with this
anti-British action."
that is an excellent email, it's time these companies got some feedback,
well done.
Jay
2005-10-04 15:34:23 UTC
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Post by Jay
Post by Chris X
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the
end
Post by Chris X
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there,"
said
Post by Chris X
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss
voluntary
Post by Chris X
redundancy and redeployment options.
****************************
I'm with the RAC.....Now THAT'S something I can do something about right
now....just give me 10 mins.....
Just sent them an e-mail, below. Will post their reply when/if I get
one.
"I have read this morning that the RAC is to sack some British workers
and export their jobs to India.
Do you think this is a good idea? I most certainly do not and tend to
boycott companies whom take this route. If it is to save money, will
the cost of membership be reduced? I suspect not.
Please confirm whether the story is correct or not, as I shall be
cancelling my Direct Debit if indeed you are continuing with this
anti-British action."
Ok, had a response, but I don't really want to post it, relating to
copyright etc... and some of you may want to get me in trouble.

However, it goes on about how the RAC is proud to be British but to
stay competitive in todays fierce market, they must regretably shed 400
British jobs.
400 not the 200 as was reported. And they are going to India. All by
the end of September 2006.
I am now a proud ex-member of the anti-British RAC.
onlyme
2005-10-04 15:45:45 UTC
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Post by Jay
Post by Jay
Post by Chris X
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the
end
Post by Chris X
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there,"
said
Post by Chris X
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss
voluntary
Post by Chris X
redundancy and redeployment options.
****************************
I'm with the RAC.....Now THAT'S something I can do something about right
now....just give me 10 mins.....
Just sent them an e-mail, below. Will post their reply when/if I get
one.
"I have read this morning that the RAC is to sack some British workers
and export their jobs to India.
Do you think this is a good idea? I most certainly do not and tend to
boycott companies whom take this route. If it is to save money, will
the cost of membership be reduced? I suspect not.
Please confirm whether the story is correct or not, as I shall be
cancelling my Direct Debit if indeed you are continuing with this
anti-British action."
Ok, had a response, but I don't really want to post it, relating to
copyright etc... and some of you may want to get me in trouble.
However, it goes on about how the RAC is proud to be British but to
stay competitive in todays fierce market, they must regretably shed 400
British jobs.
400 not the 200 as was reported. And they are going to India. All by
the end of September 2006.
I am now a proud ex-member of the anti-British RAC.
Thanks for coming back with this.
What surprises me though is what they mean by "to stay competative"?
I would have thought that a UK rescue company....selling (exclusivly?) to UK
motorists.....and with the only competitiion being from other UK rescue
companies (The AA, Green Flag etc)...it's a fairly locked down business...I
would have thought.....?
And given that the numbers of cars are increasing.....

It's soooo clearly to maximise profits by paying for cheaper labour.
"to say competative"...my arse!
Alan Ferris
2005-10-04 16:14:10 UTC
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 15:45:45 +0000 (UTC), "onlyme"
Post by Chris X
Post by Jay
Post by Jay
Post by Chris X
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by
the
Post by Jay
Post by Jay
Post by Chris X
end
Post by Chris X
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over
there,"
Post by Jay
Post by Jay
Post by Chris X
said
Post by Chris X
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss
voluntary
Post by Chris X
redundancy and redeployment options.
****************************
I'm with the RAC.....Now THAT'S something I can do something about
right
Post by Jay
Post by Jay
Post by Chris X
now....just give me 10 mins.....
Just sent them an e-mail, below. Will post their reply when/if I get
one.
"I have read this morning that the RAC is to sack some British workers
and export their jobs to India.
Do you think this is a good idea? I most certainly do not and tend to
boycott companies whom take this route. If it is to save money, will
the cost of membership be reduced? I suspect not.
Please confirm whether the story is correct or not, as I shall be
cancelling my Direct Debit if indeed you are continuing with this
anti-British action."
Ok, had a response, but I don't really want to post it, relating to
copyright etc... and some of you may want to get me in trouble.
However, it goes on about how the RAC is proud to be British but to
stay competitive in todays fierce market, they must regretably shed 400
British jobs.
400 not the 200 as was reported. And they are going to India. All by
the end of September 2006.
I am now a proud ex-member of the anti-British RAC.
Thanks for coming back with this.
What surprises me though is what they mean by "to stay competative"?
I would have thought that a UK rescue company....selling (exclusivly?) to UK
motorists.....and with the only competitiion being from other UK rescue
companies (The AA, Green Flag etc)...it's a fairly locked down business...I
would have thought.....?
And given that the numbers of cars are increasing.....
It's soooo clearly to maximise profits by paying for cheaper labour.
"to say competative"...my arse!
I Have one question, is it wrong for the UK to take jobs from other
countries? Or only when other countries take jobs from us?

--
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onlyme
2005-10-04 16:30:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan Ferris
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 15:45:45 +0000 (UTC), "onlyme"
Post by Chris X
Post by Jay
Post by Jay
Post by Chris X
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by
the
Post by Jay
Post by Jay
Post by Chris X
end
Post by Chris X
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over
there,"
Post by Jay
Post by Jay
Post by Chris X
said
Post by Chris X
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss
voluntary
Post by Chris X
redundancy and redeployment options.
****************************
I'm with the RAC.....Now THAT'S something I can do something about
right
Post by Jay
Post by Jay
Post by Chris X
now....just give me 10 mins.....
Just sent them an e-mail, below. Will post their reply when/if I get
one.
"I have read this morning that the RAC is to sack some British workers
and export their jobs to India.
Do you think this is a good idea? I most certainly do not and tend to
boycott companies whom take this route. If it is to save money, will
the cost of membership be reduced? I suspect not.
Please confirm whether the story is correct or not, as I shall be
cancelling my Direct Debit if indeed you are continuing with this
anti-British action."
Ok, had a response, but I don't really want to post it, relating to
copyright etc... and some of you may want to get me in trouble.
However, it goes on about how the RAC is proud to be British but to
stay competitive in todays fierce market, they must regretably shed 400
British jobs.
400 not the 200 as was reported. And they are going to India. All by
the end of September 2006.
I am now a proud ex-member of the anti-British RAC.
Thanks for coming back with this.
What surprises me though is what they mean by "to stay competative"?
I would have thought that a UK rescue company....selling (exclusivly?) to UK
motorists.....and with the only competitiion being from other UK rescue
companies (The AA, Green Flag etc)...it's a fairly locked down business...I
would have thought.....?
And given that the numbers of cars are increasing.....
It's soooo clearly to maximise profits by paying for cheaper labour.
"to say competative"...my arse!
I Have one question, is it wrong for the UK to take jobs from other
countries? Or only when other countries take jobs from us?
That's not a question...that's a (barely) cloaked opinion.
What happens with regard to other countries loosing jobs to the UK...is
largely a matter for them to deal with I suppose.
Be aware though, that (with very few exceptions), the only reason most
foreign businesses would set up in the UK would be to capitalise on the UK
market...it's rarely results in the loss of jobs 'back home'.

Please substantiate your 'question' by providing details od some companies
who have outsourced to the UK to utilize cheap UK labour....while still
seeking to maintain their customer base from the country they have deserted.
Alan Ferris
2005-10-05 08:38:14 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:30:53 +0000 (UTC), "onlyme"
Post by onlyme
That's not a question...that's a (barely) cloaked opinion.
What happens with regard to other countries loosing jobs to the UK...is
largely a matter for them to deal with I suppose.
Be aware though, that (with very few exceptions), the only reason most
foreign businesses would set up in the UK would be to capitalise on the UK
market...it's rarely results in the loss of jobs 'back home'.
Please substantiate your 'question' by providing details od some companies
who have outsourced to the UK to utilize cheap UK labour....while still
seeking to maintain their customer base from the country they have deserted.
I used to work for a foundry which supplied numerous parts for the
Boeing 777, parts for the Abraham's tank, parts for the tomahawk
helicopter. We were constantly taking jobs from American foundries
and also from other countries. That is what the global market is
about.

But then people have called for a reduction in the Civil Service, the
easiest cut will be to outsource all the call centres to private
business which will probably mean them being sent to overseas
contractors. People want change, but they always dislike the change
they cause.

--
Alan "Ferrit" Ferris

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onlyme
2005-10-05 09:25:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan Ferris
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:30:53 +0000 (UTC), "onlyme"
I used to work for a foundry which supplied numerous parts for the
Boeing 777,
Not really very relevent, but I found this (from 1999!), relating to Boeing,
sub-contracting parts, and air safety...
Quite an interesting read.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/egyptair/article/0,2763,196596,00.html
Alan Ferris
2005-10-05 10:35:06 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:25:06 +0000 (UTC), "onlyme"
Post by onlyme
Post by Alan Ferris
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:30:53 +0000 (UTC), "onlyme"
I used to work for a foundry which supplied numerous parts for the
Boeing 777,
Not really very relevent, but I found this (from 1999!), relating to Boeing,
sub-contracting parts, and air safety...
Quite an interesting read.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/egyptair/article/0,2763,196596,00.html
Can you read? 747 vs 777. Obviously it confused you and you spent
time looking for a negative news article instead of educating
yourself.


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onlyme
2005-10-05 11:05:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan Ferris
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:25:06 +0000 (UTC), "onlyme"
Post by onlyme
Post by Alan Ferris
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:30:53 +0000 (UTC), "onlyme"
I used to work for a foundry which supplied numerous parts for the
Boeing 777,
Not really very relevent, but I found this (from 1999!), relating to Boeing,
sub-contracting parts, and air safety...
Quite an interesting read.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/egyptair/article/0,2763,196596,00.html
Can you read? 747 vs 777. Obviously it confused you and you spent
time looking for a negative news article instead of educating
yourself.
erm...don't be an arsehole!
I did say "not really relevent" (to the question you earlier asked)
It was an article I came across, showing the possible problems with
safety-critical companies (such as Boeing) outsourcing to countries such as
poland......
The article also points to problems Boeing had (in the late 80's) with
downsizing causing union problems (in the US)...possible sabotage on the
shop floor of various (US) plants...(very worrying).
One possible consequence of the above problems in the US *might* have been
the incidence of Boeing crashes....but the article goes on to say that
safety on the 777 would be stepped up (possible resulting in parts
production in the UK rather than Poland (I don't know)....
I just found it an interesting article.....
Chris X
2005-10-05 19:25:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by onlyme
Post by Alan Ferris
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:25:06 +0000 (UTC), "onlyme"
Post by onlyme
Post by Alan Ferris
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:30:53 +0000 (UTC), "onlyme"
I used to work for a foundry which supplied numerous parts for the
Boeing 777,
Not really very relevent, but I found this (from 1999!), relating to
Boeing,
Post by Alan Ferris
Post by onlyme
sub-contracting parts, and air safety...
Quite an interesting read.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/egyptair/article/0,2763,196596,00.html
Can you read? 747 vs 777. Obviously it confused you and you spent
time looking for a negative news article instead of educating
yourself.
erm...don't be an arsehole!
I did say "not really relevent" (to the question you earlier asked)
It was an article I came across, showing the possible problems with
safety-critical companies (such as Boeing) outsourcing to countries such as
poland......
The article also points to problems Boeing had (in the late 80's) with
downsizing causing union problems (in the US)...possible sabotage on the
shop floor of various (US) plants...(very worrying).
One possible consequence of the above problems in the US *might* have been
the incidence of Boeing crashes....but the article goes on to say that
safety on the 777 would be stepped up (possible resulting in parts
production in the UK rather than Poland (I don't know)....
I just found it an interesting article.....
Interesting enough, but of course the full evil of globalisation hadn't
kicked in back in the 1980s ..... different world back then.
Jones
2005-09-30 13:29:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Chris X
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the
end
Post by Chris X
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there,"
said
Post by Chris X
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss
voluntary
Post by Chris X
redundancy and redeployment options.
****************************
I'm with the RAC.....Now THAT'S something I can do something about right
now....just give me 10 mins.....
I trust the car you drive is "made in Britain"
onlyme
2005-09-30 13:45:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jones
Post by Chris X
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the
end
Post by Chris X
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there,"
said
Post by Chris X
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss
voluntary
Post by Chris X
redundancy and redeployment options.
****************************
I'm with the RAC.....Now THAT'S something I can do something about right
now....just give me 10 mins.....
I trust the car you drive is "made in Britain"
French!
There aren't any british cars left that are worth buying....globalisation
has seen to that!
I'm now with Green-Flag btw....
Diversity Isn't A Codeword
2005-09-30 14:02:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jones
Post by Chris X
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the
end
Post by Chris X
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there,"
said
Post by Chris X
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss
voluntary
Post by Chris X
redundancy and redeployment options.
****************************
I'm with the RAC.....Now THAT'S something I can do something about right
now....just give me 10 mins.....
I trust the car you drive is "made in Britain"
I thought a total moron like you would as pathetic, petty and ignore the
plight of British jobs whilst embracing poor business practices(hey aren't
those customer service lines to India just great</sarcasm>).
Jones
2005-09-30 14:21:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Diversity Isn't A Codeword
Post by Jones
Post by Chris X
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by
the
Post by Jones
Post by Chris X
end
Post by Chris X
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there,"
said
Post by Chris X
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss
voluntary
Post by Chris X
redundancy and redeployment options.
****************************
I'm with the RAC.....Now THAT'S something I can do something about right
now....just give me 10 mins.....
I trust the car you drive is "made in Britain"
I thought a total moron like you would as pathetic, petty and ignore the
plight of British jobs whilst embracing poor business practices(hey aren't
those customer service lines to India just great</sarcasm>).
I'm not quite sure what you're on about here. I'm just trying to point out
that supporting British workers means more than boycotting the RAC for
offshoring a couple of jobs.

We have slated the British worker for the last twenty or more years, we
haven't supported British workers / companies for at least the same period,
the time to "buy British" was when we could. Now spitting out our dummies
when the RAC offshores a couple of jobs is a bit like " slamming the stable
door, 20 years after the horse has died"
Jon°
2005-09-30 15:14:36 UTC
Permalink
"slamming the stable
door, 20 years after the horse has died" "
.....................................................
Well if you are comparing the British worker to horses (typical Nu Labour,
mind I thought it may have been mules the traditional beast of
burden....Labour eh! what a joke) you should remember that we have a big
stable. There are still millions of jobs in the UK that require protection
from Nu Labour Traitorism

"Jones" <***@hereandnow> wrote in message news:SRb%e.9152$***@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
Jones
2005-09-30 15:51:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jon°
"slamming the stable
door, 20 years after the horse has died" "
.....................................................
Well if you are comparing the British worker to horses (typical Nu Labour,
mind I thought it may have been mules the traditional beast of
burden....Labour eh! what a joke) you should remember that we have a big
stable. There are still millions of jobs in the UK that require protection
from Nu Labour Traitorism
I was using an old saying to make a point, not comparing workers to horses,
but you knew that anyway, just felt like a cheap shot.

Yes we need to keep as many jobs as we can in the UK, but we can only do
that if we are competitive, or are you up for subsidising call centres to
employ UK workers, prepared to pay more for your banking etc, to keep the
jobs in the UK?

For me it has nowt to do with where who ever does the job lives, it's all
about the service I get. When I have to deal with call centres ( which is as
little as possible ) I prefer to talk to some-one in this country, because
they know what I am on about just that little bit quicker than some one from
else where seems to.
onlyme
2005-09-30 17:15:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jones
Post by Jon°
"slamming the stable
door, 20 years after the horse has died" "
.....................................................
Well if you are comparing the British worker to horses (typical Nu Labour,
mind I thought it may have been mules the traditional beast of
burden....Labour eh! what a joke) you should remember that we have a big
stable. There are still millions of jobs in the UK that require protection
from Nu Labour Traitorism
I was using an old saying to make a point, not comparing workers to horses,
but you knew that anyway, just felt like a cheap shot.
Yes we need to keep as many jobs as we can in the UK, but we can only do
that if we are competitive, .....
STOP RIGHT THERE!

When you say 'competitive' you mean with lower labour costs......this
obviously means lower wages...or vastly increased workplace stress and sick
time due to employees having to take up the slack caused by lack of staff.
Let's imagine the Terrys workforce saved their jobs by being 'more
competitive'.....this would probebly be brought about by several
means....wage freezes being the first....undermanning being the
second....and (possibly) if the company's financial state was bad enough,
wages actually being lowered.
Meanwhile....the cost of living continues to rise...mortgages continue to go
up etc etc....so debt increases, living standards are lowered, people opt
for benefits once the margin narrows between what you can earn by working
what you can earm from sitting on your arse ....the benefit bill
rises....taxes increase....the country eventually goes down the pan!

The solution...end globalisation....it is NOT in our national interest.
If companies in your own country are undercutting you...that's one
thing...but if countries such as the weastern european ones or
India/pakistan etc are undercutting us....this is something the government
could prevent, by especially for companies who offshore their labour....but
still expect the profits to come from the custoomers in the UK!
(can you imagine many in bombay taking up RAC membership for example?).

As a technologically advanced western country...we should not have to lower
our living standards to that of third world countries in order to be
'competative'.

The problem of course is that the government is in the pocket of big
business....when they should be protecting the interests of THIS country.

Bastards!
abelard
2005-09-30 21:30:02 UTC
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Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the end
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there," said
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss voluntary
redundancy and redeployment options.
meanwhile the bollix and pricks outsource their printing...
you're a useless hypocrite and a fake patriot
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Jon°
2005-10-01 07:35:46 UTC
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Oh! Dear, here we go again, Abelard spluttering on using gutter language.

The reason folks. why he is resorting to abuse sprinkled with expletives is
because he knows he has been sussed. Once he relished in the idea that he
was portraying himself as a genius on Usenet.

Sadly for him though, Usenet now know that he is an empty-headed
Wurzel-Gummidge with nothing to say accept repetitive tripe.
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Chris X
2005-10-01 08:11:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by abelard
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the end
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there," said
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss voluntary
redundancy and redeployment options.
meanwhile the bollix and pricks outsource their printing...
Because nobody in Britain will print those 60,000 monthly newspapers for us.
THanks to scum like you, MOUA.
Post by abelard
you're a useless hypocrite and a fake patriot
Get stuffed you laughable old pseud.
abelard
2005-10-01 14:50:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Chris X
Post by abelard
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the end
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there," said
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss voluntary
redundancy and redeployment options.
meanwhile the bollix and pricks outsource their printing...
Because nobody in Britain will print those 60,000 monthly newspapers for us.
THanks to scum like you, MOUA.
don't play the victim...set up your own print shop you useless drips
then you'd be providing jobs for some of those layabout members you claim.

can't run a small press and yet you wanna run the country....you are
quite risible...
Post by Chris X
Post by abelard
you're a useless hypocrite and a fake patriot
Get stuffed you laughable old pseud.
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Chris X
2005-10-01 16:47:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by abelard
Post by Chris X
Post by abelard
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the end
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there," said
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss voluntary
redundancy and redeployment options.
meanwhile the bollix and pricks outsource their printing...
Because nobody in Britain will print those 60,000 monthly newspapers for us.
THanks to scum like you, MOUA.
don't play the victim...set up your own print shop you useless drips
then you'd be providing jobs for some of those layabout members you claim.
You've been told time and time again that buying a press costs hundreds of
thousands of pounds, would have to be housed in a building with 24 hour
security to protect against arson by scum like you and your ilk, and would
not be cost-effective for a monthly print run of 60,000 copies.
Now, I know you're an ignorant old fake intellectual, but I know you're not
stupid enough not to grasp that reasoning.
abelard
2005-10-01 16:57:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Chris X
Post by abelard
Post by Chris X
Post by abelard
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the end
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there," said
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss voluntary
redundancy and redeployment options.
meanwhile the bollix and pricks outsource their printing...
Because nobody in Britain will print those 60,000 monthly newspapers for us.
THanks to scum like you, MOUA.
don't play the victim...set up your own print shop you useless drips
then you'd be providing jobs for some of those layabout members you claim.
You've been told time and time again that buying a press costs hundreds of
thousands of pounds,
and you have been told several times that is unmitigated bollox...
stop squirming you hypocritical fake patriot..
Post by Chris X
would have to be housed in a building with 24 hour
security to protect against arson by scum like you and your ilk, and would
not be cost-effective for a monthly print run of 60,000 copies.
Now, I know you're an ignorant old fake intellectual, but I know you're not
stupid enough not to grasp that reasoning.
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Chris X
2005-10-01 17:05:32 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Chris X
Post by abelard
Post by Chris X
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:45:48 +0100, "Chris X"
Post by Chris X
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by
the
end
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there," said
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss voluntary
redundancy and redeployment options.
meanwhile the bollix and pricks outsource their printing...
Because nobody in Britain will print those 60,000 monthly newspapers for us.
THanks to scum like you, MOUA.
don't play the victim...set up your own print shop you useless drips
then you'd be providing jobs for some of those layabout members you claim.
You've been told time and time again that buying a press costs hundreds of
thousands of pounds,would have to be housed in a building with 24 hour
security to protect against arson by scum like you and your ilk, and would
not be cost-effective for a monthly print run of 60,000 copies.
Now, I know you're an ignorant old fake intellectual, but I know you're not
stupid enough not to grasp that reasoning.
and you have been told several times that is unmitigated bollox...
Crap - you never gave any satisfactory answers to back up your "case" on
those issues, which is hardly surprising since you haven't a clue what
you're talking about or about modern day presses.
abelard
2005-10-01 17:42:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Chris X
Post by abelard
Post by Chris X
You've been told time and time again that buying a press costs hundreds of
thousands of pounds,would have to be housed in a building with 24 hour
security to protect against arson by scum like you and your ilk, and would
not be cost-effective for a monthly print run of 60,000 copies.
Now, I know you're an ignorant old fake intellectual, but I know you're not
stupid enough not to grasp that reasoning.
and you have been told several times that is unmitigated bollox...
Crap - you never gave any satisfactory answers to back up your "case" on
those issues, which is hardly surprising since you haven't a clue what
you're talking about or about modern day presses.
i have given you all the basic facts you needed...
i have countered each one of your ignorant and false claims....
i see no reason to hold your clammy hand through it again....

you merely need to do a little serious fact gathering in between
collecting your dole payments...
go down the library of do some net searching...i have told you what
you need....i've pointed out to you that sg's claims were misdirected.
why on earth you think i'm going to go far in helping your bums and pricks
i know not....

the information is not difficult to collect....
that you are too busy playing victim is your problem...not mine

my interest stops at either educating you if possible...
or demonstrating to anyone with the slightest intelligence or education
that you are a liar, a fool, or both....

that task has been completed...
you are simply talking more bollix...
if there is any bit that is too complicated for you to grasp i will tell
you again....but i will not waste effort on a fool....
you appear determined to stay a fool....
that is your concern and your problem..not mine...

now you may go into your normal lying lazy behaviour...
i care not a bent cent....

you can serve me just as well as a figure of mockery...
or as an example of a person capable of learning.....

so far you appear fully determined to adhere to option 1
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all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
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Chris X
2005-10-01 17:48:14 UTC
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You've been told time and time again that buying a press costs hundreds of
thousands of pounds,would have to be housed in a building with 24 hour
security to protect against arson by scum like you and your ilk, and would
not be cost-effective for a monthly print run of 60,000 copies.
Now, I know you're an ignorant old fake intellectual, but I know you're not
stupid enough not to grasp that reasoning.
and you have been told several times that is unmitigated bollox...
Crap - you never gave any satisfactory answers to back up your "case" on
those issues, which is hardly surprising since you haven't a clue what
you're talking about or about modern day presses.
i have given you all the basic facts you needed...
i have countered each one of your ignorant and false claims....
i see no reason to hold your clammy hand through it again....
you merely need to do a little serious fact gathering in between
collecting your dole payments...
go down the library of do some net searching...i have told you what
you need....i've pointed out to you that sg's claims were misdirected.
why on earth you think i'm going to go far in helping your bums and pricks
i know not....
You're a liar and a pseud, your blathering is disregarded.
abelard
2005-10-01 18:27:51 UTC
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You've been told time and time again that buying a press costs hundreds of
thousands of pounds,would have to be housed in a building with 24 hour
security to protect against arson by scum like you and your ilk, and would
not be cost-effective for a monthly print run of 60,000 copies.
Now, I know you're an ignorant old fake intellectual, but I know you're not
stupid enough not to grasp that reasoning.
and you have been told several times that is unmitigated bollox...
Crap - you never gave any satisfactory answers to back up your "case" on
those issues, which is hardly surprising since you haven't a clue what
you're talking about or about modern day presses.
i have given you all the basic facts you needed...
i have countered each one of your ignorant and false claims....
i see no reason to hold your clammy hand through it again....
you merely need to do a little serious fact gathering in between
collecting your dole payments...
go down the library of do some net searching...i have told you what
you need....i've pointed out to you that sg's claims were misdirected.
why on earth you think i'm going to go far in helping your bums and pricks
i know not....
You're a liar and a pseud, your blathering is disregarded.
yes dear...
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web site at www.abelard.org - news and comment service, logic,
energy, education, politics, etc 1,531,404 document calls in year past
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all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
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Paul Hyett
2005-10-02 06:39:35 UTC
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don't play the victim...set up your own print shop you useless drips
then you'd be providing jobs for some of those layabout members you claim.
You've been told time and time again that buying a press costs hundreds of
thousands of pounds, would have to be housed in a building with 24 hour
security to protect against arson by scum like you and your ilk
You slip ever further into paranoia.
Post by Chris X
, and would
not be cost-effective for a monthly print run of 60,000 copies.
That's the only part of the above I can accept.
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Chris X
2005-10-02 08:43:50 UTC
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don't play the victim...set up your own print shop you useless drips
then you'd be providing jobs for some of those layabout members you claim.
You've been told time and time again that buying a press costs hundreds of
thousands of pounds, would have to be housed in a building with 24 hour
security to protect against arson by scum like you and your ilk
You slip ever further into paranoia.
No, it's happened before to one of our UK based printers.
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Post by Chris X
, and would
not be cost-effective for a monthly print run of 60,000 copies.
That's the only part of the above I can accept.
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Paul Hyett
2005-10-03 05:44:04 UTC
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don't play the victim...set up your own print shop you useless drips
then you'd be providing jobs for some of those layabout members you claim.
You've been told time and time again that buying a press costs hundreds of
thousands of pounds, would have to be housed in a building with 24 hour
security to protect against arson by scum like you and your ilk
You slip ever further into paranoia.
No, it's happened before to one of our UK based printers.
Was anyone prosecuted? Were the printers insured?
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Chris X
2005-10-03 17:37:52 UTC
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don't play the victim...set up your own print shop you useless drips
then you'd be providing jobs for some of those layabout members you claim.
You've been told time and time again that buying a press costs hundreds of
thousands of pounds, would have to be housed in a building with 24 hour
security to protect against arson by scum like you and your ilk
You slip ever further into paranoia.
No, it's happened before to one of our UK based printers.
Was anyone prosecuted?
You don't seriously suppose they were "caught", do you ?
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Were the printers insured?
No idea, I expect they were ..... but that's not exactly a mitigating
circumstance for politically-motivated arson.
Paul Hyett
2005-10-02 06:37:49 UTC
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meanwhile the bollix and pricks outsource their printing...
Because nobody in Britain will print those 60,000 monthly newspapers for us.
I don't believe that for one second - IMO it's purely for financial
reasons. That being the case, you are as big hypocrites as you claim all
the other parties are.
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Chris X
2005-10-02 08:44:48 UTC
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meanwhile the bollix and pricks outsource their printing...
Because nobody in Britain will print those 60,000 monthly newspapers for us.
I don't believe that for one second - IMO it's purely for financial
reasons. That being the case, you are as big hypocrites as you claim all
the other parties are.
I suggest you do a search and you'll see the kind of "pressure", for
example, that the last UK-based printer who took on our work came under.
Logician
2005-10-01 04:43:17 UTC
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the end
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
The UK needs to compete
Post by Chris X
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there," said
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss voluntary
redundancy and redeployment options.
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England. A refusal to be a province of Israel, or an outpost of
Yankee-Judaea."
-Ezra Pound
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Chris X
2005-10-01 08:10:20 UTC
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4295292.stm
Two hundred jobs are to go from the RAC's call centres in Bristol by the end
of the year.
The work is being transferred to India as part of the company's
rationalisation plans which were announced earlier this year.
The UK needs to compete
That old mantra so beloved of the globalist traitors who want to see every
last drop of wealth and self-respect siphoned off from the British people
into the pockets of Slav and Asian sweat-shop owners.
Post by Logician
Post by Chris X
"The work is being offshored because it's clearly cheaper over there," said
an RAC spokeswoman.
A 90-day consultation period will now begin with staff to discuss voluntary
redundancy and redeployment options.
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"There is only one start you can make, and that is a start toward being
England. A refusal to be a province of Israel, or an outpost of
Yankee-Judaea."
-Ezra Pound
http://www.bnp.org.uk
http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/policies.htm
http://www.nowarforisrael.com
http://www.no2id.org
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