https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/05/27/report-sweden-top-in-europe-for-deadly-gun-violence/
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonPost by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonPost by ScottWPost by MiNe109Post by ScottWPost by Trevor Wilson**Shocking. Of course, compared to the US, Sweden is an extremely
Post by MiNe109Post by ScottWPost by MiNe109Post by ScottWPost by Trevor Wilsonpeaceful place. The US has approximately 5 times the number
of gun related homicide rate.
Hope you're quoting "per capita" or little Sweden's in deep
deep shit.
Look for the word "rate." It's similar to the word "ratio."
Most often used against a unit of time....as in murders per year.
Well-clarified! What does that have to do with your comment?
"The rate in Sweden ranks very high in relation to other European
countries, at approximately four deaths per million
inhabitants per
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonPost by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonPost by ScottWPost by MiNe109Post by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonPost by MiNe109year."
That seems to have all the elements. Here's one for the US, from
NPR: 3.96 deaths per 100,000 people in 2019.
Yes, Trevor's off by an order of magnitude. Good catch!
I'm dealing with math wizards..... Are you still waiting for
Blumenthal to hand out a million $ to every US citizen as CNN claimed
he could do for his campaign ad budget too?
What about that? How about the rate of gun deaths?
You both get F on this sixth grade level quiz.
What was the question again? Something about per capita? Sweden: 4 per
million vs US: 4 per 100k.
Too bad your borrowed gotcha deflated in the face of comparison to the US.
Tucker had an interesting take tonight....he ran a list of dem run cities that
have a higher crime rate than El Salvador or Guatemala.
Camela's going to fix their problems but doesn't do squat for Americans.
**I see what you did there.
* You posed a comment about gun HOMICIDE figures in Sweden.
I did.
Post by Trevor Wilson* I then pointed out that, although Sweden's figures are high, they are
still MUCH, MUCH lower than those gun related homicide figures in the US.
Yes...even though you still couldn't get the simple math correct.
**Really? What math did I present?
the math with a wrong answer
**Cite.
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonPost by ScottWPost by Trevor Wilson* You then displayed you ignorance of plain English
you did? (snicker)
**Umm, nope. You failed to understand the term: "rate".
It's just no fun poking fun at someone with you ignorance.
**Care to re-phrase that into English?
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonPost by ScottWPost by Trevor Wilsonand babbled on about
irrelevancies.
* NOW, you cite some rubbery data about REPORTED (and that is very
important) crimes. Not specifically gun homicides, but "crime".
It was actually "violent crime"....but no matter.
**It DOES matter. We were discussing GUN HOMICIDE rates. NOT some
rubbery "crime".
I don't know what kind of rubbery crime you're into over there but
we got real issues so....
**"Crime" is a very rubbery catch-all. It is meaningless when comparing
(say) LA to Guatemala. "Crime" reporting is VERY different in those two
places. Even homicides may be differently reported.
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonAnd I stress once more: REPORTED crime figures. Do you
think that "crimes" are reported in Guatemala as often as they are
reported in LA?
Maybe more...since in LA cops won't even take a report now for many crimes
the "reported crime rate" should be in decline.
**Prove that more crimes are reported in Guatemala than in LA.
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonYou can use murders if you want.
**YOU were the one who introduced GUN HOMICIDES. YOU did so in the first
post in this thread.
I actually said "gun fatalities" which could be a bunch of suicidal
swedes cuz their country
Post by ScottWhas gone to shit....
**Sweden "has gone to shit"? Really? In what way/s?
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonPost by ScottWWhy are dems so worried about "root cause" in Guatemala...when they
can't get to the root causes in Chicago?
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor Wilson**I am discussing the horrendous level of GUN HOMICIDE in the US,
You're not really discussing anything.....
**Wrong. I am comparing the level of gun homicide in Sweden to that in
the US.
just doing your usual rage thing to eventually
Post by ScottWget to some BS about gun control...that isn't going to ever happen.
**Prove it. The NRA is in the toilet, Trump is gone and will be in gaol
soon and, hopefully, the religious right's stangle-hold on the Supreme
Court will be smashed.
Post by ScottWMore people are now gun owners than ever before.
**So?
Post by ScottWYou shouldn't ever come to America again....you could get shot.
**Sure. I am 20 times more likely to be shot to death in the US, than I
am in Australia. Sobering, huh?
Oops. Update. The figure is now 30 TIMES more likely to be shot to death
in the US. I didn't realise how much safer Australia had become in the
last 15 years.
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor Wilsoncompared to the level in Sweden. YOU started the thread about Sweden.
Sweden is trying to catch up....but we got a head start.
**How do you know Sweden is "trying to catch up"?
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonNote the header. Please do try to remain on-topic.
Post by ScottWThey won't even talk about it. Trump at least started a program to
pursue federal enforcement of gun crimes.
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor Wilsonhttps://www.factcheck.org/2019/08/trumps-mixed-record-on-gun-control/
"In fiscal year 2019, the Department of Justice successfully
prosecuted 10,623 defendants of firearms offenses, according to data
provided by department spokesman Peter Carr. That’s the most since at
least fiscal year 1992, based on a review of the department’s annual
statistical reports since fiscal year 1992. The previous high was 10,466
in fiscal 2006,"
**So? Trump made it easier for bad people to acquire firearms. Dumb
public policy. Civilians should not have guns. It's THAT simple.
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonTrump was useless. Worse, he stacked the Supreme Court with gun lovers,
Oh the horror of our constitution. I hope you can't sleep nights.
**There are faults in the US Constitution and BoR. Like the poor wording
of the 2nd.
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor Wilsonreligious loons and fuckwits.
Post by ScottWBut anything Trump did...Biden seems compelled to undo.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/a-competition-to-win-the-21st-century-us-senate-passes-anti-china-bill-20210609-p57zdz.html
Post by ScottWI won't read SuckMyHiney until you'll read my twitter references.
Fair is fair.
**SMH employs world-class journalists and has very high credibility.
Twitter employs anyone who wants to make noise.
You're an idiot for comparing the two.
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonNothing to do with Sweden and gun homicide though.
Exactly...stay on topic.
Post by Trevor WilsonPost by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonYour seriously dodgy strawman is duly noted. You built it, you burn it
down.
The US has the most appalling gun related homicide rate of any Western,
developed nation.
The US has, by an astonishing coincidence (well, not really a
coincidence), the weakest, most haphazard gun control laws of any
Western, developed nation.
and since dems have gone on a defund the police and ignore
skyrocketing crime rates
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonPost by ScottWwe actually have elected Sheriffs warning people to get a gun...get
a CC permit...and defend yourself.
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor Wilson**Popularly elected sheriffs can be a very bad idea.
Post by ScottWWhat do you say to the LA County Sheriff?
**He is an idiot to for placing his own officers and the general public
at greater risk.
It's not his fault. The LA DA won't put anyone in jail.
**Really? I call that a lie.
He see's the world getting more dangerous every day and is warning
people to protect themselves.
Post by ScottWYou want to be protected.
Post by Trevor WilsonPerhaps you would post a link showing where the LA County Sheriff said
what you claim he said.
Google it yourself....I already have posted it elsewhere.
**I note your inability to provide proof of your claim. Claim rejected.
Post by ScottWPost by Trevor WilsonArming the public is really dumb public policy. As is evidenced by the
insanely high rates of gun homicide in the US.
IF the LA County Sheriff and the NRA was right, then the US would be the
safest place on the planet.
It isn't. Guns have no place in the hands of civilians.
You being the civilian you know best, I understand why you feel that way.
**10,000 dead Americans each and every year is proof that the American
experiment that seeks to arm civilians is not working.
10,000 dead. That's 3 X 9/11 events each and every year.
10,000 dead. That's more Americans killed each year than were killed in
Vietnam each year.
It's incredible that you have these religious loons banging on about
safe, legal abortions and those same religious loons say nothing about
10,000 murdered Americans each year. All from a mis-reading of the 2nd
Amendment.
The real question is this:
Why do YOU accept this horrendous situation?
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