Post by Nicolai P. ZwarPost by Jerry KohlPost by Nicolai P. ZwarWhich I like a lot, though I admit I have not heard it all that often. I
needed to fill the No. 3 slot, though, and couldn't think of anything
else at the time.
It would actually be difficult for me to think of more than two or three others I
would rate lower ...
Come on, try to think of four.
Hmm. Really bad Third Symphonies, huh? Well, obviously the Shostakovich. Then there's
the Villa-Lobos (by no means his worst symphony overall, but pretty bad nevertheless).
Now things begin to get difficult. I'd nominate the Hovhannes on general principles, but
I'm not sure whether I've ever actually heard it. Gorecki's Third is pretty bad, but not
really in the same category of symphony. Got it! Arvo Pärt's Third is very
disappointing, and without much doubt worse than the Saint-Saëns. That makes three, now
what about a fourth Third? I used to rate the Chávez Third more highly than I now do,
but I don't think it has sunk below the Saint-Saëns yet in my estimation ... Milhaud's
Third? I'm not sure (I'd have to go have a listen to refresh my memory). Henk Badings?
Again, I don't remember it well enough. Ah, I know! Schubert's Third--cute, but no
prizes. (And how old was he, again, when he wrote it? 17?)
Truth be told, I rather like Saint-Saëns's music in general (though I've not heard very
much of it--only 30 or 40 pieces all told, I'd say at a guess, out of a catalog
of--what?--200 opus numbers?), but I've never been able to take the "Organ" Symphony
seriously, it's just too ridiculous. Always reminds me of the Hoover and electric floor
polisher in Malcolm Arnold's "A Grand, Grand Overture".
Post by Nicolai P. ZwarPost by Jerry KohlPost by Nicolai P. ZwarPost by Jerry Kohland
(though I've not heard them so this is a bit unfair) the Glass
The mere mentioning of his name is of course always controversial in
this group.
Knee-jerk reaction, of course and, as I said, it was unfair of me to rubbish him
without even listening to the thing. Just because nothing by him that I've ever
heard up to now has been worth the bother doesn't mean he can't surprise me and
suddenly write something tolerable. I once nearly thought I had discovered an
aexception in the Kronos Quartet recording of his music for Company. Then I found
out the LP had a scratch in it, and when I got the copy replaced, all the interest
had disappeared.
LOL! Yeah, good ol' Glass is always an easy target for jokes.
Nevertheless, I like a lot of his music; especially his operas, like
Akhnaten for example. Though it's of course also a different kind of
music, way removed from Brahms or Mahler, and requires a different kind
of listening. I can understand if Glass' mosaic-like repetitions drive
some people up the wall.
On a serious level, I think the critical question is whether the "mosaic-like
repetitions" produce sufficient surface information to provide a structural depth to a
composition that is to last longer than about five minutes. It can become rather like
listening to a Schenkerian Ursatz without any elaboration even at the middleground
level--though I hasten to add that Glass's harmnic structures do not usually adhere to
the Schenkerian model.
Post by Nicolai P. ZwarPost by Jerry KohlPost by Nicolai P. ZwarYou should give that one a shot. Simpson is highly underrated in my
opinion. Try the recordings of his 3rd and 5th symphony on Hyperion, if
you get a chance; they are terrific.
So many symphonies, so little time!
And there are concertos, rhapsodies, operas, and string quartets, too.
Gee! Are we going to move on now to lists of top-9 (or just lain *any* 9) numbered
violin concertos, each by a different composer? (I'd suggest viola concertos, but that
would be silly.) Or numbered operas? Now *that* would be a challenge!
Post by Nicolai P. ZwarPost by Jerry KohlWe'll see. After the previous round on this
general theme, I was convinced to go out and try some Rautavaara. Nice try, no
cigar.
Now it's your turn to step up to the plate, Jerry. Your list, please...
Lemme think about this for a bit ...
--
Jerry Kohl <***@comcast.net>
"Légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal."