Post by a***@gmail.comPost by Christopher A. LeePost by a***@gmail.comAtheists should be open minded, and not have blind hatred for theists.
Open minded about what? Imaginary magical superbeings vs reality?
No. Open minded of the value of religion, as ancient literature and philosophy.
We see all we need to know about its "value" from the behaviour of the
fundamentalist half of American Christians. Especially here.
In more than 25 years here, I have never seen any honesty or
intelligence from them, here - they rudely and stupidly post
unsolicited religious nonsense where they know nobody takes it
seriously, including preaching, lies to us about why we don't believe,
other stuff that rudely and stupidly presumes we already believe
enough of it to find arguments based on that convincing, stupid
questions that presume we already believe, like "who created all
this", etc.
No theist poster here has _ever_, in all that time, had the honesty to
acknowledge let alone address refutations and rebuttals of their
unsolicited nonsense including first cause arguments and other
so-called "proofs", their arguments against evolution, modern physics
and other sciences which refute their bronze-age myths and legends.
After a while, it's too much bother to show them anything other than
the contempt they have already shown us - many of them for more than
two decades. Some of us simply show their rudeness and stupidity the
same discourtesy.
The only difference being that we explain why they were wrong about
atheists, evolution, physics, biochemistry, logic and a whole slew of
other things _as_well_as_ treating them as the idiots and liars they
have already shown us they are.
But like you, they focus on the last bit while ignoring the meat of
the response - and they lie about why they get the responses they do.
Nobody asked them to come here, and just like you they have no reason
to turn into whining liars when they reap what they sow.
Post by a***@gmail.comPost by Christopher A. LeeAnd I don't know anybody who has "blind hatred" for theists - that's
what theists have for people who don't put up with their neverending
stream of unsolicited nonsense and nastiness.
I find atheists like you just as nasty as theists.
You simply reap what your rudeness and stupidity sow.
And you _still_ haven't explained why you accuse science of lying, and
hope "quark theory" will go away.
The kind of intellectual dishonesty which makes you invent paranoid
lies about others, doesn't help you.
Post by a***@gmail.comPost by Christopher A. LeeA straw man you use to attack the atheists here. In other words, a lie
about people who simply want to live and let live, but are prevented
from doing that by religious fanatics.
Theists are preventing you from living as you wish?
What part of not letting atheists live and let live, are you
pretending you don't understand?
Post by a***@gmail.comI have little respect, for fundamentalists (like you),whether atheist or theist.
Yet another of your personal lies rather than bother to address why
atheists react negatively.
Post by a***@gmail.comPost by Christopher A. LeeDo you really no understand how we concluded you were a troll almost
as soon as you first appeared?
You have reached several wrong conclusions, either because of your poor
English comprehension and reasoning skills,
Then you need to think about what you say before saying it, liar.
Post by a***@gmail.comOR you are lying and trolling for replies from me.
I'm not the one who lied about science lying and wishing that "quark
theory" would go away, after making several contentious posts whose
responses you ignored.
Post by a***@gmail.comPost by Christopher A. LeePost by a***@gmail.comThe tone of discussion between atheists and theists should be
respectful.
What is there to discuss? Theists who can't live and let live, wipe
their unsolicited nonsense and nastiness where it's inappropriate,
etc?
If theres nothing to discuss, dont.
Then don't post contentious, carefully phrased nonsense and nobody
will respond.
Post by a***@gmail.comPost by Christopher A. LeeAnd trolls who pretend they are atheist but make the same false
accusations and follow up with amateur-psychologised falsehoods when
they get the expected negative reaction?
Only atheist fundamentalists
No such thing, liar. What you lie is "atheist fundamentalism" is
merely the natural human response to your initial unsolicited rudeness
and stupidity - like preaching about a caricature of atheists who
don't do what you accuse them of.
Post by a***@gmail.comcan be offended by my discussions,
You don't "discuss" anything. Discussion is a two-way thing but you
treat it as a one-way monolog. You post contentious nonsense and
insist that we respond on your terms - instead of taking any notice of
what were initially polite responses.
On this group, at least, you are expected to defend your claims, not
cop out by saying you got what anybody with even high school general
science, knows is complete nonsense, from an "impeccable source".
Which is intellectually dishonest.
Post by a***@gmail.comand believe that I am an atheist.
It doesn't show.
Post by a***@gmail.comPost by Christopher A. LeePost by a***@gmail.comI am atheist, and many theists disrespect me for my lack of belief.
No. Because you act more like a sanctimonious, theist newbie who
arrives and attacks atheists.
That's the kind of lie about atheists, to atheists which shows us what
you are,
Post by a***@gmail.comAt the same time many atheists accuse me of being a theist, because
of my open mind.
As usual, you lie about the negative reaction you engender.
It's because you act just like the theist trolls we get here, with
things like lying about not having an open mind.
Face it, if you claim an open mind on magical superbeings vs reality,
then you are hardly the atheist you claim.
Post by a***@gmail.comIf your philosophy makes you happy,
What frikking "philosophy", troll who takes no notice whatsoever of
what is explained?
Post by a***@gmail.comwhile respecting the human rights
of others, I have no problem, whatever your beliefs.
What frikking "beliefs", troll who takes no notice whatsoever of what
is explained?
What we _do_ have a problem with, are sanctimonious newbies who come
into the group and attack people out of ignorance while claiming they
are atheists.
Your words just prove my point, and you are an example of an atheist
fundamentalist, who thinks he can tell others if they qualify to be an atheist.
And yours prove mine - that you can't defend your unsolicited nonsense
and your misrepresentation of atheists. So you invent motives of which
you accuse them.
If you don't mean what your remarks like the one that started this
thread imply, then you should be a heck of a lot more careful. But you
do this far too often for it to be an accident.
This time, you implied that the response to the neverending stream of
rudeness, stupidity and outright lies we have been getting here from
trolling theists, is somehow equivalent to their behaviour towards us.
I don't know anybody here who goes to the religious groups to behave
towards them, the way theists do here - although there have been a few
loonies who did that in the past because they enjoy cross-posting
flame wars.
Post by a***@gmail.comPost by Christopher A. LeePost by a***@gmail.comFundamentalism usually has a religious connotation that indicates
unwavering attachment to a set of irreducible beliefs.[1] However,
fundamentalism has come to be applied to a tendency among certain
groupsmainly, though not exclusively, in religionthat is
characterized by a markedly strict literalism as it is applied to certain
specific scriptures, dogmas, or ideologies, and a strong sense of the
importance of maintaining ingroup and outgroup distinctions,[2][3][4][5]
leading to an emphasis on purity and the desire to return to a previous
ideal from which advocates believe members have strayed. Rejection
of diversity of opinion as applied to these established "fundamentals"
and their accepted interpretation within the group often results from
this tendency.
So what? Atheists are individuals who sometimes get together to
discuss our own issues due to living in a predominantly theist society
which treats us as pariahs - all the way up to the former President
who just died, who said that atheists shouldn't be considered citizens
because this is "one nation under god" which was unconstitutionally
signed into law in the 1950s by Eisenhower for religious reasons in a
country that is supposed to be secular. Imagine the outcry if he had
said that about Jews, even though there are even less of them than
atheists in the USA.
Post by a***@gmail.comAbhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
I am the breaker of rules
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