I DID IT!!!!

[Sarns]

Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job that
had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well i
applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
ONNN!!!!!

Sarns

[BTMO]

"Sarns" <> wrote

> Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
> that
> had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well i
> applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> ONNN!!!!!


Ha ha!!

Well done!!!

When do you leave the Evil Empire?

Which reminds me - Theresa was in the news yesterday saying Telecom was
losing the handset war because they "were our parents phone company, didn't
have sexy handsets and didn't do text very well".

Stupid slapper. I tried to tell them that for 8 years when I worked there,
but Telecom doesn't listen to the troops...

Of course, when Moutter and the rest started saying the same thing, it
became policy pretty damn quickly...

[Gib Bogle]

BTMO wrote:

> "Sarns" <> wrote
>
>
>>Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
>>that
>>had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well i
>>applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
>>HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
>>ONNN!!!!!
>
>
>
> Ha ha!!
>
> Well done!!!
>
> When do you leave the Evil Empire?
>
> Which reminds me - Theresa was in the news yesterday saying Telecom was
> losing the handset war because they "were our parents phone company, didn't
> have sexy handsets and didn't do text very well".

How odd. I can't imaging taking against a company because it sold
things to my parents, and I don't need a sexy handset, in fact the idea
that a handset could be sexy sounds quite twisted to me. As for "doing
text", I wonder what that means.

[BTMO]

"Gib Bogle" <> wrote

>> Which reminds me - Theresa was in the news yesterday saying Telecom was
>> losing the handset war because they "were our parents phone company,
>> didn't have sexy handsets and didn't do text very well".
>
> How odd. I can't imaging taking against a company because it sold things
> to my parents, and I don't need a sexy handset, in fact the idea that a
> handset could be sexy sounds quite twisted to me. As for "doing text", I
> wonder what that means.

And yet, from a cold start, Vodaphone overtook Telecom in the mobile market
in less than ten years...

Funny, huh?

[Alastair McAllister]

In <d8u4pg$3jq$***@lust.ihug.co.nz> Gib Bogle wrote:

> BTMO wrote:

>> Which reminds me - Theresa was in the news yesterday saying Telecom
>> was losing the handset war because they "were our parents phone
>> company, didn't have sexy handsets and didn't do text very well".

> How odd. I can't imaging taking against a company because it sold
> things to my parents, and I don't need a sexy handset, in fact the
> idea that a handset could be sexy sounds quite twisted to me. As for
> "doing text", I wonder what that means.

Having a trendy phone is no different from having a trendy watch, pair
of shoes, jacket, etc. Regardless of whether you care how 'sexy' your
phone is, there is a huge chunk of the market that does care and, when
Telecom was perceived as conservative and middle-aged, they were missing
out on a lot of potential customers.

Don't forget that whilst there isn't too much revenue in the youth
market because of their limited disposable income, the margins are
extremely good because of the fact that most teenagers are on prepaid
plans which have horrendously high calling charges, and they send large
volumes of text messages which cost stuff all to transmit over the
network.

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[Tilly]

Alastair McAllister wrote:
> Having a trendy phone is no different from having a trendy watch, pair
> of shoes, jacket, etc. Regardless of whether you care how 'sexy' your
> phone is, there is a huge chunk of the market that does care and, when
> Telecom was perceived as conservative and middle-aged, they were
> missing out on a lot of potential customers.


I have a 'sexy' mobile and I have noticed no increase in my libido.

>
> Don't forget that whilst there isn't too much revenue in the youth
> market because of their limited disposable income, the margins are
> extremely good because of the fact that most teenagers are on prepaid
> plans which have horrendously high calling charges, and they send
> large volumes of text messages which cost stuff all to transmit over
> the network.


It is the youngsters who provide a large percentage of the revenue. They are
the ones who download the bells and whistles such as ringtones, cards ,
games etc.....At upwards of $3 each it is revenue sent from heaven .

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[Alastair McAllister]

In <eDNse.8255$***@news.xtra.co.nz> Tilly wrote:

> Alastair McAllister wrote:

>> Having a trendy phone is no different from having a trendy watch,
>> pair of shoes, jacket, etc. Regardless of whether you care how 'sexy'
>> your phone is, there is a huge chunk of the market that does care and,
>> when Telecom was perceived as conservative and middle-aged, they were
>> missing out on a lot of potential customers.

> I have a 'sexy' mobile and I have noticed no increase in my libido.

I don't necessarily believe that a 'sexy' phone is a wise investment.
I'm just describing the buying habits of one particular segment of the
market.


>> Don't forget that whilst there isn't too much revenue in the youth
>> market because of their limited disposable income, the margins are
>> extremely good because of the fact that most teenagers are on prepaid
>> plans which have horrendously high calling charges, and they send
>> large volumes of text messages which cost stuff all to transmit over
>> the network.

> It is the youngsters who provide a large percentage of the revenue.
> They are the ones who download the bells and whistles such as
> ringtones, cards , games etc.....At upwards of $3 each it is revenue
> sent from heaven .

I doubt that teenagers provide anywhere near as much revenue as business
customers do, but I'm sure that the teenage customers are just as
profitable because, as you rightly point out, they go for the gimmicks
which have huge profit margins on them.

IMO, they're getting ripped off, but I daresay it's all part of learning
how to manage their money (albeit the hard way).

--
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Wellington, New Zealand
www.alastair.geek.nz

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[Agnes Volestrangler XIII]

Alastair McAllister wrote:

>
> Don't forget that whilst there isn't too much revenue in the youth
> market because of their limited disposable income, the margins are
> extremely good because of the fact that most teenagers are on prepaid
> plans which have horrendously high calling charges, and they send large
> volumes of text messages which cost stuff all to transmit over the
> network.
>

I haven't got a cell phone yet though I sometimes consider it: is the
cost and occasional convenience of being able to call when I want to,
greater than the annoyance of being within constant reach of Timewasters
& Tossers Inc?

Anyway I've tried to get some idea of what combination of plan & phone
the best (cheapest) for someone who doesn't envisage using it a lot. I
think what I'd like best is one of the new plain phones that have big
print and don't do anything fancy, but they are very expensive so I'll
rule them out.

Ideas, please?

A L P

[E. Scrooge]

"Agnes Volestrangler XIII" <b|***@clear.net.nz> wrote in message
news:42b3cb1a$***@clear.net.nz...
> Alastair McAllister wrote:
>
> >
> > Don't forget that whilst there isn't too much revenue in the youth
> > market because of their limited disposable income, the margins are
> > extremely good because of the fact that most teenagers are on prepaid
> > plans which have horrendously high calling charges, and they send large
> > volumes of text messages which cost stuff all to transmit over the
> > network.
> >
>
> I haven't got a cell phone yet though I sometimes consider it: is the
> cost and occasional convenience of being able to call when I want to,
> greater than the annoyance of being within constant reach of Timewasters
> & Tossers Inc?
>
> Anyway I've tried to get some idea of what combination of plan & phone
> the best (cheapest) for someone who doesn't envisage using it a lot. I
> think what I'd like best is one of the new plain phones that have big
> print and don't do anything fancy, but they are very expensive so I'll
> rule them out.
>
> Ideas, please?
>
> A L P

The only real advantage of the things is if you should break down in your
car somewhere for emergency purposes.
These days there's young idiots that will have their cell phones out texting
each other while sitting in the same fucking room only a couple of feet away
from each other. Telecom loves such simple minded suckers that blindly give
what money they have all away to Telecom.

E. Scrooge

[Alastair McAllister]

In <***@ftpsrv1> E. Scrooge wrote:

> "Agnes Volestrangler XIII" <b|***@clear.net.nz> wrote in message
> news:42b3cb1a$***@clear.net.nz...

>> Anyway I've tried to get some idea of what combination of plan &
>> phone the best (cheapest) for someone who doesn't envisage using it a
>> lot. I think what I'd like best is one of the new plain phones that
>> have big print and don't do anything fancy, but they are very
>> expensive so I'll rule them out.

> The only real advantage of the things is if you should break down in
> your car somewhere for emergency purposes. These days there's young
> idiots that will have their cell phones out texting each other while
> sitting in the same fucking room only a couple of feet away from each
> other. Telecom loves such simple minded suckers that blindly give
> what money they have all away to Telecom.

Considering that you seemingly never move more than ten metres away from
your computer, it's probably hard for you to imagine that normal people
might like to be contactable when they're away from home.

--
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Wellington, New Zealand
www.alastair.geek.nz

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[E. Scrooge]

"Alastair McAllister" <***@mail.com> wrote in message
news:20050618210331079+***@news.paradise.net.nz...
> In <***@ftpsrv1> E. Scrooge wrote:
>
> > "Agnes Volestrangler XIII" <b|***@clear.net.nz> wrote in message
> > news:42b3cb1a$***@clear.net.nz...
>
> >> Anyway I've tried to get some idea of what combination of plan &
> >> phone the best (cheapest) for someone who doesn't envisage using it a
> >> lot. I think what I'd like best is one of the new plain phones that
> >> have big print and don't do anything fancy, but they are very
> >> expensive so I'll rule them out.
>
> > The only real advantage of the things is if you should break down in
> > your car somewhere for emergency purposes. These days there's young
> > idiots that will have their cell phones out texting each other while
> > sitting in the same fucking room only a couple of feet away from each
> > other. Telecom loves such simple minded suckers that blindly give
> > what money they have all away to Telecom.
>
> Considering that you seemingly never move more than ten metres away from
> your computer, it's probably hard for you to imagine that normal people
> might like to be contactable when they're away from home.
>
> --
> Regards, Alastair.

Just because you have a computer, fax machine, and phone in your toilet
means nothing to me in slightest. I wouldn't expect you to have anything
less apart from a dozen spare rolls of shit paper as well.

I didn't criticise the having of a cell phone at all, just the stupid way
that many idiots choose to them.

E. Scrooge

[Alastair McAllister]

In <***@ftpsrv1> E. Scrooge wrote:

> "Alastair McAllister" <***@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:20050618210331079+***@news.paradise.net.nz...

>> Considering that you seemingly never move more than ten metres away
>> from your computer, it's probably hard for you to imagine that normal
>> people might like to be contactable when they're away from home.

> Just because you have a computer, fax machine, and phone in your
> toilet means nothing to me in slightest. I wouldn't expect you to
> have anything less apart from a dozen spare rolls of shit paper as
> well.

Of all the times you've gone off on a complete tangent, this would have
to be your biggest display of stupidity yet.


> I didn't criticise the having of a cell phone at all, just the stupid
> way that many idiots choose to [use] them.

So you were saying that anyone who uses a wireless phone for anything
other than a vehicle breakdown is an 'idiot'?

Christ, I need another beer...

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Wellington, New Zealand
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[E. Scrooge]

"Alastair McAllister" <***@mail.com> wrote in message
news:20050618223238471+***@news.paradise.net.nz...
> In <***@ftpsrv1> E. Scrooge wrote:
>
> > "Alastair McAllister" <***@mail.com> wrote in message
> > news:20050618210331079+***@news.paradise.net.nz...
>
> >> Considering that you seemingly never move more than ten metres away
> >> from your computer, it's probably hard for you to imagine that normal
> >> people might like to be contactable when they're away from home.
>
> > Just because you have a computer, fax machine, and phone in your
> > toilet means nothing to me in slightest. I wouldn't expect you to
> > have anything less apart from a dozen spare rolls of shit paper as
> > well.
>
> Of all the times you've gone off on a complete tangent, this would have
> to be your biggest display of stupidity yet.
>
>
> > I didn't criticise the having of a cell phone at all, just the stupid
> > way that many idiots choose to [use] them.
>
> So you were saying that anyone who uses a wireless phone for anything
> other than a vehicle breakdown is an 'idiot'?
>
> Christ, I need another beer...
>
> --
> Regards, Alastair.

You just do that. It should a good laugh to see your next deluded claim
about what I've said.
Must be good having Jesus as your personal bar tender though. Might be just
as well that he doesn't tell you that he can't really turn piss into beer.

E. Scrooge

[Agnes Volestrangler XIII]

Alastair McAllister wrote:
> In <***@ftpsrv1> E. Scrooge wrote:

>
> Considering that you seemingly never move more than ten metres away from
> your computer, it's probably hard for you to imagine that normal people
> might like to be contactable when they're away from home.
>
It's a matter of degree. I've seen people so contactable that they
never seem to have five minutes of peace without someone texting or
calling for what seems to be the equivalent of exchanging white noise.

A L P

[Alastair McAllister]

In <42b4abac$***@clear.net.nz> Agnes Volestrangler XIII wrote:

> Alastair McAllister wrote:

>> Considering that you seemingly never move more than ten metres away
>> from your computer, it's probably hard for you to imagine that
>> normal people might like to be contactable when they're away from
>> home.

> It's a matter of degree. I've seen people so contactable that they
> never seem to have five minutes of peace without someone texting or
> calling for what seems to be the equivalent of exchanging white noise.

True, but modern handsets allow a lot of control over how contactable
you want to be. At the end of the day, you always have the option of
switching your phone off or leaving it at home, so people who are
constantly disrupted by their phones do so by choice.

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[Tilly]

Alastair McAllister wrote:
> Considering that you seemingly never move more than ten metres away
> from your computer, it's probably hard for you to imagine that normal
> people might like to be contactable when they're away from home.


Mobiles are a godsend to women who are out alone. If the car breaks down,
injures oneself ,or feels that their safety is threatened in any way ,a
mobile is very handy. I personally wouldn't get out of my car if a tyre
punctured when travelling alone at night.
--
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[BTMO]

"Tilly" <> wrote

> Mobiles are a godsend to women who are out alone. If the car breaks down,
> injures oneself ,or feels that their safety is threatened in any way ,a
> mobile is very handy. I personally wouldn't get out of my car if a tyre
> punctured when travelling alone at night.

I taught my wife to change her own tyres.

Far more useful skill than worrying about the boogie man...

[Tilly]

BTMO wrote:
> I taught my wife to change her own tyres.
>
> Far more useful skill than worrying about the boogie man...

I can change my own tyres but I won't do it at night.


--
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[BTMO]

"Tilly" <> wrote

>> I taught my wife to change her own tyres.
>>
>> Far more useful skill than worrying about the boogie man...
>
> I can change my own tyres but I won't do it at night.

Poor night vision, huh?

Oh well...

[Tilly]

BTMO wrote:
> Poor night vision, huh?
>
> Oh well...

No Brendon based on experience, the details of which I have no wish to
discuss here.


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[Nicolaas Hawkins]

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Tilly <***@yahoo.co.nz>
wrote in <news:iV7te.8465$***@news.xtra.co.nz>:

> BTMO wrote:
>> I taught my wife to change her own tyres.
>>
>> Far more useful skill than worrying about the boogie man...
>
> I can change my own tyres but I won't do it at night.

You wait for daylight?
Could make for a bloody cold and lonely night stuck in the middle of the
desert road...

--
Regards,
Nicolaas.





... No good deed goes unpunished.

[Tilly]

Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:
> You wait for daylight?

I would. I have blankets in the boot and I would keep warm while I waited
for help.

> Could make for a bloody cold and lonely night stuck in the middle of
> the desert road...

See above.

--
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[Alastair McAllister]

In <wo7te.8451$***@news.xtra.co.nz> Tilly wrote:

> Alastair McAllister wrote:

>> Considering that you seemingly never move more than ten metres away
>> from your computer, it's probably hard for you to imagine that normal
>> people might like to be contactable when they're away from home.

> Mobiles are a godsend to women who are out alone. If the car breaks
> down, injures oneself ,or feels that their safety is threatened in any
> way ,a mobile is very handy. I personally wouldn't get out of my car
> if a tyre punctured when travelling alone at night.

Absolutely. They're also a great way for parents to have piece of mind
while their teenagers are out and about. People seem to get caught up in
the negative aspects of the technology, and forget about the benefits.

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[Tilly]

Alastair McAllister wrote:
> Absolutely. They're also a great way for parents to have piece of mind
> while their teenagers are out and about.

Yes. I recall a few times I would have been grateful to have one when I was
a teenager.


People seem to get caught up
> in the negative aspects of the technology, and forget about the
> benefits.


Most of the men I know would far rather their kids and wives/girlfriends
phoned for help, rather than taking risks in the dark.

--
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[Tarla]

Tilly wrote:
> Alastair McAllister wrote:
>
>>Considering that you seemingly never move more than ten metres away
>>from your computer, it's probably hard for you to imagine that normal
>>people might like to be contactable when they're away from home.
>
>
>
> Mobiles are a godsend to women who are out alone. If the car breaks down,
> injures oneself ,or feels that their safety is threatened in any way ,a
> mobile is very handy. I personally wouldn't get out of my car if a tyre
> punctured when travelling alone at night.

I would. I'd be changing the damned tire.

[Tilly]

Tarla wrote:
> I would. I'd be changing the damned tire.


WEell you are a lot bigger than me Tarla.;-)


--
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[Alastair McAllister]

In <42b3cb1a$***@clear.net.nz> Agnes Volestrangler XIII wrote:

> Alastair McAllister wrote:

>> Don't forget that whilst there isn't too much revenue in the youth
>> market because of their limited disposable income, the margins are
>> extremely good because of the fact that most teenagers are on prepaid
>> plans which have horrendously high calling charges, and they send
>> large volumes of text messages which cost stuff all to transmit over
>> the network.

> I haven't got a cell phone yet though I sometimes consider it: is the
> cost and occasional convenience of being able to call when I want to,
> greater than the annoyance of being within constant reach of
> Timewasters & Tossers Inc?
>
> Anyway I've tried to get some idea of what combination of plan & phone
> the best (cheapest) for someone who doesn't envisage using it a lot.
> I think what I'd like best is one of the new plain phones that have
> big print and don't do anything fancy, but they are very expensive so
> I'll rule them out.

The prepaid plans are generally aimed at people who use their phones
very rarely but, despite being in this category myself, I have opted not
to use a prepaid plan because I like having my calling itemised on a
bill at the end of the month in order to see exactly how much I'm
spending. The other problem with prepaid plans is that you risk running
out of credit in awkward situations if you're not careful to monitor how
much credit you have on your account.

I'm on Telecom's Mytime 100 which offers 100 off-peak minutes per month
at a monthly charge of $20. It's good value, but it would only suit if
you *never* make calls during business hours, because they charge
penalty rates that these times.

--
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[Tarla]

Agnes Volestrangler XIII wrote:
>
> I haven't got a cell phone yet though I sometimes consider it: is the
> cost and occasional convenience of being able to call when I want to,
> greater than the annoyance of being within constant reach of Timewasters
> & Tossers Inc?

I used to feel that way too. Now, I leave mine turned off unless *I*
need it.
>
> Anyway I've tried to get some idea of what combination of plan & phone
> the best (cheapest) for someone who doesn't envisage using it a lot. I
> think what I'd like best is one of the new plain phones that have big
> print and don't do anything fancy, but they are very expensive so I'll
> rule them out.
>
> Ideas, please?

For your uses, get a cheap phone and a $20 phone card. It'll last you
forever!

[Barry Lennox]

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:51:25 +1200, Tarla <***@inspire.net.nz>
wrote:


>>
>> Anyway I've tried to get some idea of what combination of plan & phone
>> the best (cheapest) for someone who doesn't envisage using it a lot. I
>> think what I'd like best is one of the new plain phones that have big
>> print and don't do anything fancy, but they are very expensive so I'll
>> rule them out.
>>
>> Ideas, please?
>
>For your uses, get a cheap phone and a $20 phone card. It'll last you
>forever!

Agree, the little Motorola C155 is pretty good value at around $79 at
the moment, comes with $15 credit that lasts me for months. Then
top-up with the $20 cards. Two warnings:

1. If you don't top-up every 12 months, they cancel the SIM card,your
number, any credit, and the works! Thieving bastards!

2. Call Vodaphone and dump their damm voicemail instantly, It COSTS
you 20c to retrieve a call, and is quite unwanted to me. If sombody
rings me, and it's engaged, or off, then they try again later. Simple
really.

[Agnes Volestrangler XIII]

Barry Lennox wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:51:25 +1200, Tarla <***@inspire.net.nz>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>Anyway I've tried to get some idea of what combination of plan & phone
>>>the best (cheapest) for someone who doesn't envisage using it a lot. I
>>>think what I'd like best is one of the new plain phones that have big
>>>print and don't do anything fancy, but they are very expensive so I'll
>>>rule them out.
>>>
>>>Ideas, please?
>>
>>For your uses, get a cheap phone and a $20 phone card. It'll last you
>>forever!
>
>
> Agree, the little Motorola C155 is pretty good value at around $79 at
> the moment, comes with $15 credit that lasts me for months. Then
> top-up with the $20 cards. Two warnings:
>
> 1. If you don't top-up every 12 months, they cancel the SIM card,your
> number, any credit, and the works! Thieving bastards!
>
> 2. Call Vodaphone and dump their damm voicemail instantly, It COSTS
> you 20c to retrieve a call, and is quite unwanted to me. If sombody
> rings me, and it's engaged, or off, then they try again later. Simple
> really.
>
Ah! Many thanks! I haven't got the hang of what a SIM card is - is
that the info that makes it "your" phone?

A L P

[BTMO]

"Agnes Volestrangler XIII" <> wrote

> Ah! Many thanks! I haven't got the hang of what a SIM card is - is that
> the info that makes it "your" phone?

A SIM card is a small memory card that is placed into your phone when you
buy it.

It contains the details of your number, account, and your phone book.

You can swap a SIM from one phone to another, and your details will be
transfered to the new phone...

Only available on GSM networks at this stage, though I understand there are
moves...

[Agnes Volestrangler XIII]

BTMO wrote:
> "Agnes Volestrangler XIII" <> wrote
>
>
>>Ah! Many thanks! I haven't got the hang of what a SIM card is - is that
>>the info that makes it "your" phone?
>
>
> A SIM card is a small memory card that is placed into your phone when you
> buy it.
>
> It contains the details of your number, account, and your phone book.
>
> You can swap a SIM from one phone to another, and your details will be
> transfered to the new phone...
>
> Only available on GSM networks at this stage, though I understand there are
> moves...
>
>
That was SO useful then you threw in "GSM networks" and now I have to ask:

What's a GSM network, and what changes/alternatives are you himting at?

A L P

[BTMO]

"Agnes Volestrangler XIII" <> wrote

>> Only available on GSM networks at this stage, though I understand there
>> are moves...
> That was SO useful then you threw in "GSM networks" and now I have to ask:
>
> What's a GSM network, and what changes/alternatives are you himting at?

Global Systeme Mobile (or however it is spelled) - the European designed
mobile phone standard. It was *specifically* designed to work well across
international boundaries. It is basically the biggest phone standard (in
terms of numbers) in the world, and it is the reason people travelling
overseas generally take a vodafone with them.

The changes are that the US (which has its own standards) and China (which,
perversely perhaps, uses the US standards) are going to converge with the
GSM standard over the next few years, as regulators finally realise that
common standards are a better form of competition for consumers than
competing standards that lock you to one company via a handset purchase.

It is still a few years away...

[Tarla]

Agnes Volestrangler XIII wrote:

> Ah! Many thanks! I haven't got the hang of what a SIM card is - is
> that the info that makes it "your" phone?

Yes. It's a little card that fits in the back of your phone. I don't
have one in mine because I have an account, but if you're going pre-pay,
that's the way. Later, if you decide you want a nicer phone or your
cheap one gets damaged, all you do is remove the SIM card and put it in
your new phone and you still have the same phone number and all your
phone numbers and other data. It stands for S(omething) Identity Module.

[BTMO]

"Tarla" <> wrote

>> Ah! Many thanks! I haven't got the hang of what a SIM card is - is that
>> the info that makes it "your" phone?
>
> Yes. It's a little card that fits in the back of your phone. I don't have
> one in mine because I have an account, but if you're going pre-pay,


You don't have one in your phone because it isn't a GSM phone...

GSM (ie, vodafone) phones (account and prepaid) have SIMs.

CDMA and TDMA (ie, telecom) phones (account and prepaid) don't.

[Alastair McAllister]

In <ku4te.8381$***@news.xtra.co.nz> BTMO wrote:

> "Tarla" <> wrote

>> Yes. It's a little card that fits in the back of your phone. I don't
>> have one in mine because I have an account, but if you're going pre-
>> pay,

> You don't have one in your phone because it isn't a GSM phone...
> GSM (ie, vodafone) phones (account and prepaid) have SIMs.
> CDMA and TDMA (ie, telecom) phones (account and prepaid) don't.

Yep. CDMA handsets have an ESN (electronic serial number) instead. When
the handset is switched on, it transmits its ESN to the network and the
network then uses that information to identify the owner of the phone.
If you change your handset, then you just need to supply the ESN of your
new phone to Telecom.

--
Regards, Alastair.
Wellington, New Zealand
www.alastair.geek.nz

My supplied email address is fake. Any views expressed in this posting
are personal and its content remains the property of Alastair. Alastair
accepts no responsibility for any misinformation resulting from this
posting.

[BTMO]

"Alastair McAllister" <> wrote

> Yep. CDMA handsets have an ESN (electronic serial number) instead. When
> the handset is switched on, it transmits its ESN to the network and the
> network then uses that information to identify the owner of the phone.
> If you change your handset, then you just need to supply the ESN of your
> new phone to Telecom.

:-)

Normally, Telecom tells you...

[Agnes Volestrangler XIII]

Tarla wrote:
> Agnes Volestrangler XIII wrote:
>
>>
>> I haven't got a cell phone yet though I sometimes consider it: is the
>> cost and occasional convenience of being able to call when I want to,
>> greater than the annoyance of being within constant reach of
>> Timewasters & Tossers Inc?
>
>
> I used to feel that way too. Now, I leave mine turned off unless *I*
> need it.
>
>>
>> Anyway I've tried to get some idea of what combination of plan & phone
>> the best (cheapest) for someone who doesn't envisage using it a lot.
>> I think what I'd like best is one of the new plain phones that have
>> big print and don't do anything fancy, but they are very expensive so
>> I'll rule them out.
>>
>> Ideas, please?
>
>
> For your uses, get a cheap phone and a $20 phone card. It'll last you
> forever!

Thanks Tarla. It's mainly for things like calling tradesmen - I
sometimes have to work in a house with no phone and it can be a plain
having to come home to call the plumber or sparky. Is one company
better than the other? I've read through the various "plans" and there
seem to be innumerable permutations. Some plans seem to have to be
renewed every 12 months whether you have used the minutes or not.

A L P

[Tarla]

Agnes Volestrangler XIII wrote:
> Tarla wrote:

>>
>> For your uses, get a cheap phone and a $20 phone card. It'll last you
>> forever!
>
>
> Thanks Tarla. It's mainly for things like calling tradesmen - I
> sometimes have to work in a house with no phone and it can be a plain
> having to come home to call the plumber or sparky. Is one company
> better than the other? I've read through the various "plans" and there
> seem to be innumerable permutations. Some plans seem to have to be
> renewed every 12 months whether you have used the minutes or not.

The cheapest deal around would be Vodafone pre-pay. You DO have to top
up every year though, but they all make you do that.

[Alastair McAllister]

In <42b4abad$***@clear.net.nz> Agnes Volestrangler XIII wrote:

> Tarla wrote:


>> For your uses, get a cheap phone and a $20 phone card. It'll last you
>> forever!

> Thanks Tarla. It's mainly for things like calling tradesmen - I
> sometimes have to work in a house with no phone and it can be a plain
> having to come home to call the plumber or sparky. Is one company
> better than the other?

Both of the major networks are pretty good. I'm on Telecom because they
have exclusive coverage in a couple of areas where I need it (primarily
the Wairarapa coast, and Taylor's Mistake in Christchurch), but
international travellers are probably better off on Vodafone as their
roaming coverage is more comprehensive.

For your purposes, it shouldn't make a difference which company you go
with.

--
Regards, Alastair.
Wellington, New Zealand
www.alastair.geek.nz

My supplied email address is fake. Any views expressed in this posting
are personal and its content remains the property of Alastair. Alastair
accepts no responsibility for any misinformation resulting from this
posting.

[geoffm]

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:56:59 +1200, Agnes Volestrangler XIII
<b|***@clear.net.nz> wrote:

>
>Anyway I've tried to get some idea of what combination of plan & phone
>the best (cheapest) for someone who doesn't envisage using it a lot. I
>think what I'd like best is one of the new plain phones that have big
>print and don't do anything fancy, but they are very expensive so I'll
>rule them out.
Prepaid Vodaphone sim card and a second hand phone. I prefer Nokia
phones, as the menus are easiest, they seem tougher than the erricsons
I had, and the power adapters don't have the stupid little plug thant
never stays in.
My cheap Nokia 3310 (?) lets ou set the size of the print on the
screen.
Geoff

[Brian Dooley]

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:56:59 +1200, Agnes Volestrangler XIII
<b|***@clear.net.nz> wrote:

>Alastair McAllister wrote:
>
>>
>> Don't forget that whilst there isn't too much revenue in the youth
>> market because of their limited disposable income, the margins are
>> extremely good because of the fact that most teenagers are on prepaid
>> plans which have horrendously high calling charges, and they send large
>> volumes of text messages which cost stuff all to transmit over the
>> network.
>>
>
>I haven't got a cell phone yet though I sometimes consider it: is the
>cost and occasional convenience of being able to call when I want to,
>greater than the annoyance of being within constant reach of Timewasters
>& Tossers Inc?
>
>Anyway I've tried to get some idea of what combination of plan & phone
>the best (cheapest) for someone who doesn't envisage using it a lot. I
>think what I'd like best is one of the new plain phones that have big
>print and don't do anything fancy, but they are very expensive so I'll
>rule them out.
>
>Ideas, please?

Have somebody give you one, as I did.
--

Brian Dooley

Wellington New Zealand

[Agnes Volestrangler XIII]

Brian Dooley wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:56:59 +1200, Agnes Volestrangler XIII
> <b|***@clear.net.nz> wrote:

>>
>>Anyway I've tried to get some idea of what combination of plan & phone
>>the best (cheapest) for someone who doesn't envisage using it a lot.
>
>
> Have somebody give you one, as I did.

How did you get to be so lovable? Nobody cares about me.... boo
hoo-ooo-oo-oo (sniff) whimper.

[Brian Dooley]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:01:48 +1200, Agnes Volestrangler XIII
<b|***@clear.net.nz> wrote:

>Brian Dooley wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:56:59 +1200, Agnes Volestrangler XIII
>> <b|***@clear.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Anyway I've tried to get some idea of what combination of plan & phone
>>>the best (cheapest) for someone who doesn't envisage using it a lot.
>>
>>
>> Have somebody give you one, as I did.
>
>How did you get to be so lovable? Nobody cares about me.... boo
>hoo-ooo-oo-oo (sniff) whimper.

There must be thousands of old models around to be given away.
--

Brian Dooley

Wellington New Zealand

[Hermit]

"Gib Bogle" <***@ihug.too.much.spam.co.nz> wrote in message
news:d8u4pg$3jq$***@lust.ihug.co.nz...

> I don't need a sexy handset, in fact the idea that a handset could be sexy
> sounds quite twisted to me.

Perhaps they're referring to the "vibrate" mode?

[Bobs]

Hermit wrote:
> "Gib Bogle" <***@ihug.too.much.spam.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:d8u4pg$3jq$***@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>
>
>>I don't need a sexy handset, in fact the idea that a handset could be sexy
>>sounds quite twisted to me.
>
>
> Perhaps they're referring to the "vibrate" mode?
>
>

I notice a lot of women have their cellphone set to vibrate. Completely
innocent I'm sure, but Bobs still finds it amusing.

[E. Scrooge]

"Bobs" <***@extra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:5bMse.8236$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
> Hermit wrote:
>> "Gib Bogle" <***@ihug.too.much.spam.co.nz> wrote in message
>> news:d8u4pg$3jq$***@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>
>>
>>>I don't need a sexy handset, in fact the idea that a handset could be
>>>sexy sounds quite twisted to me.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps they're referring to the "vibrate" mode?
>
> I notice a lot of women have their cellphone set to vibrate. Completely
> innocent I'm sure, but Bobs still finds it amusing.

And you must really enjoying feeling them up, just to see if their cell
phone is vibrating of course.

E. Scrooge

[Tilly]

Bobs wrote:
> Hermit wrote:
> > "Gib Bogle" <***@ihug.too.much.spam.co.nz> wrote in message
> > news:d8u4pg$3jq$***@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> >
> >
> > > I don't need a sexy handset, in fact the idea that a handset
> > > could be sexy sounds quite twisted to me.
> >
> >
> > Perhaps they're referring to the "vibrate" mode?
> >
> >
>
> I notice a lot of women have their cellphone set to vibrate.
> Completely innocent I'm sure, but Bobs still finds it amusing.


Vibration mode is useful in meetings , or if you are having a fling.


--
***@hotmail.com

[Nicolaas Hawkins]

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:04:22 +1200, Bobs <***@extra.co.nz> wrote in
<news:5bMse.8236$***@news.xtra.co.nz>:

> Hermit wrote:
>> "Gib Bogle" <***@ihug.too.much.spam.co.nz> wrote in message
>> news:d8u4pg$3jq$***@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>
>>>I don't need a sexy handset, in fact the idea that a handset could be sexy
>>>sounds quite twisted to me.
>>
>> Perhaps they're referring to the "vibrate" mode?
>>
>
> I notice a lot of women have their cellphone set to vibrate. Completely
> innocent I'm sure, but Bobs still finds it amusing.

Yes, Bobs would.

[Tilly]

Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:
.
>
> Yes, Bobs would.

What I want to know Nicholas is how Bobs knows this . Do you think he has
his hands in locations he shouldn't? LOL


--
***@hotmail.com

[Nicolaas Hawkins]

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:36:33 +1200, Tilly <***@yahoo.co.nz>
wrote in <news:unOse.8269$***@news.xtra.co.nz>:

> Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:
> .
>>
>> Yes, Bobs would.
>
> What I want to know Nicholas is how Bobs knows this . Do you think he has
> his hands in locations he shouldn't? LOL

You may well think that, but _I_ couldn't _possibly_ comment.

Oh ... and would you mind terribly if I asked you to please spell my name
the same way that I do? Thanks.

--
Regards,
Nicolaas.





... A real person has two reasons for doing anything...a good reason and
the real reason.

[Tilly]

Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:
> Oh ... and would you mind terribly if I asked you to please spell my
> name the same way that I do? Thanks.

Sorry Nicholaas.


--
***@hotmail.com

[Nicolaas Hawkins]

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:17:32 +1200, Tilly <***@yahoo.co.nz>
wrote in <news:to7te.8448$***@news.xtra.co.nz>:

> Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:
>> Oh ... and would you mind terribly if I asked you to please spell my
>> name the same way that I do? Thanks.
>
> Sorry Nicholaas.

5/10 for that one. Like to have another bite at the cherry? :-)


--
Regards,
Nicolaas.





... No good deed goes unpunished.

[Tarla]

Tilly wrote:
> Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:
>
>>Oh ... and would you mind terribly if I asked you to please spell my
>>name the same way that I do? Thanks.
>
>
> Sorry Nicholaas.

No "H", Tilly.

[Ashley]

"Tarla" <***@inspire.net.nz> wrote in message
news:***@clear.net.nz...
> Tilly wrote:
>> Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:
>>
>>>Oh ... and would you mind terribly if I asked you to please spell my
>>>name the same way that I do? Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Sorry Nicholaas.
>
> No "H", Tilly.

Christ, is he still going on?

[Nicolaas Hawkins]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:59:52 +1200, Ashley <***@xtra.co.nz>
wrote in <news:91lte.8543$***@news.xtra.co.nz>:

> "Tarla" <***@inspire.net.nz> wrote in message
> news:***@clear.net.nz...
>> Tilly wrote:
>>> Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:
>>>
>>>>Oh ... and would you mind terribly if I asked you to please spell my
>>>>name the same way that I do? Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry Nicholaas.
>>
>> No "H", Tilly.
>
> Christ, is he still going on?

Pull your bollard head in.
Just because you're being offensive there's no reason for anyone else to
follow your contemptible example.

--
Regards,
Nicolaas.





... One often gets much more than one asks for - not all of it necessarily
good.

[E. Scrooge]

"Nicolaas Hawkins" <***@t.large> wrote in message
news:53pktvnqi83g$***@nrph.top.net.nz...
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:59:52 +1200, Ashley <***@xtra.co.nz>
> wrote in <news:91lte.8543$***@news.xtra.co.nz>:
>
>> "Tarla" <***@inspire.net.nz> wrote in message
>> news:***@clear.net.nz...
>>> Tilly wrote:
>>>> Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Oh ... and would you mind terribly if I asked you to please spell my
>>>>>name the same way that I do? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry Nicholaas.
>>>
>>> No "H", Tilly.
>>
>> Christ, is he still going on?
>
> Pull your bollard head in.
> Just because you're being offensive there's no reason for anyone else to
> follow your contemptible example.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Nicolaas.

Well said that man.

E. Scrooge

[Agnes Volestrangler XIII]

Ashley wrote:
> "Tarla" <***@inspire.net.nz> wrote in message
> news:***@clear.net.nz...
>
>>Tilly wrote:
>>
>>>Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Oh ... and would you mind terribly if I asked you to please spell my
>>>>name the same way that I do? Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>Sorry Nicholaas.
>>
>>No "H", Tilly.
>
>
> Christ, is he still going on?
>
>
Well, he's got a point. The courtesy of getting someone's name right,
when people have seen/heard it innumerable times, doesn't seem too much
to ask.

A L P

[Ashley]

"Agnes Volestrangler XIII" <b|***@clear.net.nz> wrote in message
news:***@clear.net.nz...


> Well, he's got a point. The courtesy of getting someone's name right,
> when people have seen/heard it innumerable times, doesn't seem too much to
> ask.

Sorry, but it's also something that, as you grow up and get wiser, you learn
to get over because you realise it's just one of those things that people
do. I got an email reply from a colleague at work the other day in which
she, as many people do when they're not entirely focused, called me Ainsley.
Am I upset? No. Because I don't actually expect to be the centre of her
world, and I know how easy it is in a moment's inattention.

I have learned not to worry about not being the centre of everyone's world.
Young Nic needs to do the same.

[Nicolaas Hawkins]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:29:16 +1200, Ashley <***@xtra.co.nz>
wrote in <news:Zmtte.8667$***@news.xtra.co.nz>:

> "Agnes Volestrangler XIII" <b|***@clear.net.nz> wrote in message
> news:***@clear.net.nz...
>
>> Well, he's got a point. The courtesy of getting someone's name right,
>> when people have seen/heard it innumerable times, doesn't seem too much to
>> ask.
>
> Sorry, but it's also something that, as you grow up and get wiser, you learn
> to get over because you realise it's just one of those things that people
> do. I got an email reply from a colleague at work the other day in which
> she, as many people do when they're not entirely focused, called me Ainsley.
> Am I upset? No. Because I don't actually expect to be the centre of her
> world, and I know how easy it is in a moment's inattention.
>
> I have learned not to worry about not being the centre of everyone's world.
> Young Nic needs to do the same.

You don't get to tell me what I need, you sassy, rustic bint. Young Nic,
indeed! ... I'm probably old enough to be your father!

--
Nicolaas

... CAVEAS: Sow not the wind, lest you reap the whirlwind!

[Tarla]

Tilly wrote:
> Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:
> .
>
>>Yes, Bobs would.
>
>
> What I want to know Nicholas is how Bobs knows this . Do you think he has
> his hands in locations he shouldn't? LOL
>
>
It's Nicolaas. C'mon Tilly.

[Tilly]

Tarla wrote:
> It's Nicolaas. C'mon Tilly.


For years people spelt my name wrongly because it wasn't spelt the way it is
most commonl;y. After thirty years I finally changed the spelling legally.


--
***@hotmail.com

[Sarns]

"BTMO" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nFvse.8096$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> "Sarns" <> wrote
>
> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
> > that
> > had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well
i
> > applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> > HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> > ONNN!!!!!
>
>
> Ha ha!!
>
> Well done!!!

thanx omg i'm so stoked!

> When do you leave the Evil Empire?

15th July..have to give months notice.

> Which reminds me - Theresa was in the news yesterday saying Telecom was
> losing the handset war because they "were our parents phone company,
didn't
> have sexy handsets and didn't do text very well".

Don't be fooled...they are doing just fine...we had the roadshow this week.

Sarns

[BTMO]

"Sarns" <> wrote

>> Which reminds me - Theresa was in the news yesterday saying Telecom was
>> losing the handset war because they "were our parents phone company,
> didn't
>> have sexy handsets and didn't do text very well".
>
> Don't be fooled...they are doing just fine...we had the roadshow this
> week.

The roadshow?

Bullshit Mk III...

;-)

[Sarns]

"BTMO" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:C9xse.8118$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> "Sarns" <> wrote
>
> >> Which reminds me - Theresa was in the news yesterday saying Telecom was
> >> losing the handset war because they "were our parents phone company,
> > didn't
> >> have sexy handsets and didn't do text very well".
> >
> > Don't be fooled...they are doing just fine...we had the roadshow this
> > week.
>
> The roadshow?
>
> Bullshit Mk III...
>
> ;-)

LOL very succint and accurate lol

Sarns

[E. Scrooge]

"Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:lZwse.8113$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> "BTMO" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:nFvse.8096$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>
>> "Sarns" <> wrote
>>
>> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
>> > that
>> > had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad
>> > study.......well
> i
>> > applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got
>> > it..WOOOOO
>> > HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
>> > ONNN!!!!!
>>
>>
>> Ha ha!!
>>
>> Well done!!!
>
> thanx omg i'm so stoked!
>
>> When do you leave the Evil Empire?
>
> 15th July..have to give months notice.
>
>> Which reminds me - Theresa was in the news yesterday saying Telecom was
>> losing the handset war because they "were our parents phone company,
> didn't
>> have sexy handsets and didn't do text very well".
>
> Don't be fooled...they are doing just fine...we had the roadshow this
> week.
>
> Sarns

The network must be really stuffed if they've got to drive the messages from
phone to phone.
No wonder Tim's votes from his thousands of supportors didn't arrive to TVNZ
in time, they were still on the road through Monday and Tuesday slowly
travelling towards TVNZ.

E. Scrooge

[Mr Scebe]

"Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:lZwse.8113$***@news.xtra.co.nz...

> Don't be fooled...they are doing just fine...we had the roadshow this
> week.

That's because all the negative people have left to pursue other interests
(present company excluded of course).

--
Mr Scebe
Losersh always whine about their 'besht'.
Winnersh go home and fuck the prom queen".
~Sean Connery in "The Rock"

[Sarns]

"Mr Scebe" <***@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:1%Fse.8155$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:lZwse.8113$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> > Don't be fooled...they are doing just fine...we had the roadshow this
> > week.
>
> That's because all the negative people have left to pursue other interests
> (present company excluded of course).


LOL :-) ...they have HUGEEE turnover...but on saying that..they have been
one of the best employers i have ever had and are totally committed to their
staff...well in my area anyway :-)

Sarns

[Alastair McAllister]

In <1FHse.8165$***@news.xtra.co.nz> Sarns wrote:

> "Mr Scebe" <***@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:1%Fse.8155$***@news.xtra.co.nz...

>> That's because all the negative people have left to pursue other
>> interests (present company excluded of course).

> LOL :-) ...they have HUGEEE turnover...but on saying that..they have
> been one of the best employers i have ever had and are totally
> committed to their staff...well in my area anyway :-)

I worked for Yellow Pages for a brief period of time and the staff
turnover there was frighteningly high, although that tends to be the
case in most sales environments. I still always believed that they have
a positive attitude towards their staff, but the problem was purely
related to the way in which they provided support to staff.

I left after a breif period of time because the department and I had
different goals, and there was very limited scope for me to develop in
the role that I was in, but I still like them as a company and will
continue to be a customer.

--
Regards, Alastair.
Wellington, New Zealand
www.alastair.geek.nz

My supplied email address is fake. Any views expressed in this posting
are personal and its content remains the property of Alastair. Alastair
accepts no responsibility for any misinformation resulting from this
posting.

[BTMO]

"Sarns" <> wrote

>> That's because all the negative people have left to pursue other
>> interests
>> (present company excluded of course).
>
>
> LOL :-) ...they have HUGEEE turnover...

There is a reason for that (oh, and Scebee? I was there for 8 years...)

> but on saying that..they have been
> one of the best employers i have ever had and are totally committed to
> their
> staff...well in my area anyway :-)

Yep. A lot of the sales areas in Telecom are like that.

Of course, in the network areas, part of their business plan is the number
of people they can dump each year...

[Sarns]

"BTMO" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rWNse.8259$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> "Sarns" <> wrote
>
> >> That's because all the negative people have left to pursue other
> >> interests
> >> (present company excluded of course).
> >
> >
> > LOL :-) ...they have HUGEEE turnover...
>
> There is a reason for that (oh, and Scebee? I was there for 8 years...)
>
> > but on saying that..they have been
> > one of the best employers i have ever had and are totally committed to
> > their
> > staff...well in my area anyway :-)
>
> Yep. A lot of the sales areas in Telecom are like that.
>

I'm not in sales :P

(snip)

Sarns

[Judges1318]

BTMO wrote:


>
> Which reminds me - Theresa was in the news yesterday saying Telecom was
> losing the handset war because they "were our parents phone company, didn't
> have sexy handsets and didn't do text very well".
>
> Stupid slapper. I tried to tell them that for 8 years when I worked there,
> but Telecom doesn't listen to the troops...
>
>
>

Opting for the american mobile standard instead of the gsm
used in the rest of the world did not help either.

[BTMO]

"Judges1318" <> wrote

> Opting for the american mobile standard instead of the gsm
> used in the rest of the world did not help either.

That is a big part of it, yes, but I still feel there was a lot of
opportunity to market their way past that - pricing phones so that kids
could afford them, decent plans for non-business users, more rapid
introduction of cross-network texting (admittedly that was as much voda's
fault - they didn't want to give up their monopoly on the "youf" market)

The fact that telecom didn't catch on to the fact that text was even a
phenomenon until vodafone was just stunning too. But they eventually got the
idea.

I mean look at the situation today - Telecom has had something of a
resurgence in terms of numbers - handsets have helped, but the *plans*
available are possibly the biggest drawcards.

The funny thing is the people you meet in Telecom - they have the most
*amazing* belief in their mobile products - but unfortunately this belief
isn't based on anything resembling reality. It is all hype....

[Kay Neich]

"Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:lmvse.8093$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
> Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
that
> had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well i
> applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> ONNN!!!!!
>
> Sarns
>
>
BRILLIANT SARNDRA! i'm pleased for you.

k

[Sarns]

"Kay Neich" <***@clear.net.BLAH> wrote in message
news:***@clear.net.nz...
>
> "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:lmvse.8093$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
> that
> > had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well
i
> > applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> > HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> > ONNN!!!!!
> >
> > Sarns
> >
> >
> BRILLIANT SARNDRA! i'm pleased for you.
>

Thanx K :-) angst works sometimes lol... getting this job has been an
amazing experience... like nothing before... i feel like ive gone up 10
steps in the world

Sarns

[Alastair McAllister]

In <lmvse.8093$***@news.xtra.co.nz> Sarns wrote:

> Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the
> job that had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......
> well i applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got
> it..WOOOOO HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER
> PATH...ROCK ONNN!!!!!

Congrats, Sarns. It's always been my experience that when these
opportunities pop up out of nowhere, it's always because they were meant
to be. Even if you find the transition hard, you'll definitely enjoy the
rewards in the end.

--
Regards, Alastair.
Wellington, New Zealand
www.alastair.geek.nz

My supplied email address is fake. Any views expressed in this posting
are personal and its content remains the property of Alastair. Alastair
accepts no responsibility for any misinformation resulting from this
posting.

[Sarns]

"Alastair McAllister" <***@mail.com> wrote in message
news:20050617202558441+***@news.paradise.net.nz...
> In <lmvse.8093$***@news.xtra.co.nz> Sarns wrote:
>
> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the
> > job that had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad
study.......
> > well i applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got
> > it..WOOOOO HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER
> > PATH...ROCK ONNN!!!!!
>
> Congrats, Sarns. It's always been my experience that when these
> opportunities pop up out of nowhere, it's always because they were meant
> to be. Even if you find the transition hard, you'll definitely enjoy the
> rewards in the end.

Indeed Alistair and I know that as much as anyone else :-) ...5 years ago i
was a single mum in a dead end part time job.... but i had a vision for
myself...today...is a huge step towards that coming to fruition.... this
year my life has been hugely synchronistic....it's very humbling

Sarns

[Nelly]

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:50:35 +1200, "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:

>
>"Alastair McAllister" <***@mail.com> wrote in message
>news:20050617202558441+***@news.paradise.net.nz...
>> In <lmvse.8093$***@news.xtra.co.nz> Sarns wrote:
>>
>> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the
>> > job that had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad
>study.......
>> > well i applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got
>> > it..WOOOOO HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER
>> > PATH...ROCK ONNN!!!!!
>>
>> Congrats, Sarns. It's always been my experience that when these
>> opportunities pop up out of nowhere, it's always because they were meant
>> to be. Even if you find the transition hard, you'll definitely enjoy the
>> rewards in the end.
>
>Indeed Alistair and I know that as much as anyone else :-) ...5 years ago i
>was a single mum in a dead end part time job.... but i had a vision for
>myself...today...is a huge step towards that coming to fruition.... this
>year my life has been hugely synchronistic....it's very humbling
>
>Sarns
>
Good on you Sarns and Congrats.


Nelly.
If you see someone without a smile, give them one of yours :-)

[Sarns]

"Nelly" <***@g-removeme-mail.com > wrote in message
news:***@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:50:35 +1200, "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Alastair McAllister" <***@mail.com> wrote in message
> >news:20050617202558441+***@news.paradise.net.nz...
> >> In <lmvse.8093$***@news.xtra.co.nz> Sarns wrote:
> >>
> >> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the
> >> > job that had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad
> >study.......
> >> > well i applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got
> >> > it..WOOOOO HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN
CAREER
> >> > PATH...ROCK ONNN!!!!!
> >>
> >> Congrats, Sarns. It's always been my experience that when these
> >> opportunities pop up out of nowhere, it's always because they were
meant
> >> to be. Even if you find the transition hard, you'll definitely enjoy
the
> >> rewards in the end.
> >
> >Indeed Alistair and I know that as much as anyone else :-) ...5 years ago
i
> >was a single mum in a dead end part time job.... but i had a vision for
> >myself...today...is a huge step towards that coming to fruition.... this
> >year my life has been hugely synchronistic....it's very humbling
> >
> >Sarns
> >
> Good on you Sarns and Congrats.
>

:D Thanx Nells...see there is life after kids LOL !!

Sarns

[Mr Scebe]

"Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:45xse.8117$***@news.xtra.co.nz...

> Indeed Alistair and I know that as much as anyone else :-) ...5 years ago
> i
> was a single mum in a dead end part time job.... but i had a vision for
> myself...today...is a huge step towards that coming to fruition

That's the best bit - and pretty much what some of us have said for a number
of years. There is no reason why *anyone* can't change their circumstances -
all they need is the drive to do it.

--
Mr Scebe
Losersh always whine about their 'besht'.
Winnersh go home and fuck the prom queen".
~Sean Connery in "The Rock"

[Sarns]

"Mr Scebe" <***@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:k1Gse.8156$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:45xse.8117$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> > Indeed Alistair and I know that as much as anyone else :-) ...5 years
ago
> > i
> > was a single mum in a dead end part time job.... but i had a vision for
> > myself...today...is a huge step towards that coming to fruition
>
> That's the best bit - and pretty much what some of us have said for a
number
> of years. There is no reason why *anyone* can't change their
circumstances -
> all they need is the drive to do it.

I didn't always have drive...but i guess i'm lucky i'm a pretty strong
person mentally and if i take something on such as study...i'm determined to
get thru it.... many don't have that in their personality....

Sarns

[Mr Scebe]

"Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:lmvse.8093$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
> Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
> that
> had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well i
> applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> ONNN!!!!!

Congratulations - i'm glad to see that you took my advice.

--
Mr Scebe
Losersh always whine about their 'besht'.
Winnersh go home and fuck the prom queen".
~Sean Connery in "The Rock"

[Sarns]

"Mr Scebe" <***@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Iiwse.8104$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:lmvse.8093$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
> > that
> > had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well
i
> > applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> > HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> > ONNN!!!!!
>
> Congratulations - i'm glad to see that you took my advice.

Can't remeber wholly what it was..but yeah i stuck my neck out .... and it
feels great now! I was brutally honest with them to lol

Sarns

[Nelly]

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:01:12 +1200, "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:

>
>"Mr Scebe" <***@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:Iiwse.8104$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>
>> "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
>> news:lmvse.8093$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
>> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
>> > that
>> > had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well
>i
>> > applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
>> > HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
>> > ONNN!!!!!
>>
>> Congratulations - i'm glad to see that you took my advice.
>
>Can't remeber wholly what it was..but yeah i stuck my neck out .... and it
>feels great now! I was brutally honest with them to lol
>
>Sarns
>
I have also secured myself employment over the last few weeks. I used
that 'brutal honesty' in my interviews, told them what I want and why
I left the previous company. I now have two contracts that I can work
at in the school term and managed to meet someone who knew my previous
employers personally and confirmed I was indeed working for people who
thought they were the Mafia.

I have worked at one of the positions since last Tuesday, start
training at another this coming Monday and was phoned with another
today (had to turn that one away).

Good luck Sarns and I hope everything works out for you. You certainly
deserve it :D


Nelly.
If you see someone without a smile, give them one of yours :-)

[Sarns]

"Nelly" <***@g-removeme-mail.com > wrote in message
news:***@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:01:12 +1200, "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mr Scebe" <***@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> >news:Iiwse.8104$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
> >>
> >> "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> >> news:lmvse.8093$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
> >> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the
job
> >> > that
> >> > had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad
study.......well
> >i
> >> > applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got
it..WOOOOO
> >> > HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER
PATH...ROCK
> >> > ONNN!!!!!
> >>
> >> Congratulations - i'm glad to see that you took my advice.
> >
> >Can't remeber wholly what it was..but yeah i stuck my neck out .... and
it
> >feels great now! I was brutally honest with them to lol
> >
> >Sarns
> >
> I have also secured myself employment over the last few weeks. I used
> that 'brutal honesty' in my interviews, told them what I want and why
> I left the previous company. I now have two contracts that I can work
> at in the school term and managed to meet someone who knew my previous
> employers personally and confirmed I was indeed working for people who
> thought they were the Mafia.
>
> I have worked at one of the positions since last Tuesday, start
> training at another this coming Monday and was phoned with another
> today (had to turn that one away).
>
> Good luck Sarns and I hope everything works out for you. You certainly
> deserve it :D

Aww Nells that's excellent!! Well done you taking that on and raising your
family..i know it's not easy and you had the guts to go out there and find
something you were happier in instead of your comfort zone...well done you
:-) ...... EVERYONE who works to better themselves deserves it....for
some it just comes quicker than others lol

Hugs Nells

Sarns

[Kay Neich]

"Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:DBHse.8162$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> "Nelly" <***@g-removeme-mail.com > wrote in message
> news:***@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:01:12 +1200, "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Mr Scebe" <***@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > >news:Iiwse.8104$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
> > >>
> > >> "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> > >> news:lmvse.8093$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
> > >> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the
> job
> > >> > that
> > >> > had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad
> study.......well
> > >i
> > >> > applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got
> it..WOOOOO
> > >> > HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER
> PATH...ROCK
> > >> > ONNN!!!!!
> > >>
> > >> Congratulations - i'm glad to see that you took my advice.
> > >
> > >Can't remeber wholly what it was..but yeah i stuck my neck out .... and
> it
> > >feels great now! I was brutally honest with them to lol
> > >
> > >Sarns
> > >
> > I have also secured myself employment over the last few weeks. I used
> > that 'brutal honesty' in my interviews, told them what I want and why
> > I left the previous company. I now have two contracts that I can work
> > at in the school term and managed to meet someone who knew my previous
> > employers personally and confirmed I was indeed working for people who
> > thought they were the Mafia.
> >
> > I have worked at one of the positions since last Tuesday, start
> > training at another this coming Monday and was phoned with another
> > today (had to turn that one away).
> >
> > Good luck Sarns and I hope everything works out for you. You certainly
> > deserve it :D
>
> Aww Nells that's excellent!! Well done you taking that on and raising
your
> family..i know it's not easy and you had the guts to go out there and find
> something you were happier in instead of your comfort zone...well done you
> :-) ...... EVERYONE who works to better themselves deserves it....for
> some it just comes quicker than others lol
>
> Hugs Nells
>
> Sarns
>
>
all good news, i'd say. incl the angst & brutal honesty. sounds like fun
actually when executed with a bit of knowhow, precision & technique. it's
given me a bit more of a boost on reinstating a few things now that i've
seen more of what goes belly-up and what doesn't.
I love to hear of people's efforts shaping into fruition. it's great.

K

[Sarns]

"Kay Neich" <***@clear.net.BLAH> wrote in message
news:***@clear.net.nz...
>
> "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

[snip]

> > Aww Nells that's excellent!! Well done you taking that on and raising
> your
> > family..i know it's not easy and you had the guts to go out there and
find
> > something you were happier in instead of your comfort zone...well done
you
> > :-) ...... EVERYONE who works to better themselves deserves it....for
> > some it just comes quicker than others lol
> >
> > Hugs Nells
> >
> > Sarns


> all good news, i'd say. incl the angst & brutal honesty. sounds like fun
> actually when executed with a bit of knowhow, precision & technique. it's
> given me a bit more of a boost on reinstating a few things now that i've
> seen more of what goes belly-up and what doesn't.
> I love to hear of people's efforts shaping into fruition. it's great.


LOL it's only fun when it works out :-) ... but yes you are right K....

Sarns

[David Lloyd]

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:52:28 +1200, "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:

>Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job that
>had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well i
>applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
>HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
>ONNN!!!!!
>
>Sarns
>

Well done Sarns, I knew you could do it. I'll tell Rodney my spirit
guide too, it will be thrilled...

[Sarns]

"David Lloyd" <***@nowhere.co.nz> wrote in message
news:***@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:52:28 +1200, "Sarns" <***@xtra.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
> >Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
that
> >had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well
i
> >applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> >HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> >ONNN!!!!!
> >
> >Sarns
> >
>
> Well done Sarns, I knew you could do it. I'll tell Rodney my spirit
> guide too, it will be thrilled...

LOL Ok thanx to both you and Rodders D.... positive thinking and
visualisation does count :-) so does the universe.. ;-)

Sarns

[Tarla]

Sarns wrote:
> Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job that
> had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well i
> applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> ONNN!!!!!
>
> Sarns
>
>
Good on you, Sarndra! I can't wish you enough good luck in this.

[Sarns]

"Tarla" <***@inspire.net.nz> wrote in message
news:42b2ffc0$***@clear.net.nz...
> Sarns wrote:
> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
that
> > had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well
i
> > applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> > HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> > ONNN!!!!!
> >
> > Sarns
> >
> >
> Good on you, Sarndra! I can't wish you enough good luck in this.

Awww thanx so much Tars!!!! I just can't believe i got it...and do you know
what is the best part.... they told me they recognise what i am bringing to
their organisation...... THAT is the reward also...people who can see your
worth :-) and it's lovely to be finally recognised!

Sarns

[Chris Wilkinson]

Hi there,

Sarns wrote:
> Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job that
> had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well i
> applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> ONNN!!!!!

Awesome score girl! All that hard work repaid in kind! :-)

--
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[Sarns]

"Chris Wilkinson" <***@SPAMOFF.con> wrote in message
news:42b35c9f$***@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> Hi there,
>
> Sarns wrote:
> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
that
> > had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well
i
> > applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> > HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> > ONNN!!!!!
>
> Awesome score girl! All that hard work repaid in kind! :-)


Indeed C :-) and listening to other people who love me badgering me on LOL!
Thanx!!

Sarns

[Chris Wilkinson]

Hi there,

Sarns wrote:
> "Chris Wilkinson" <***@SPAMOFF.con> wrote in message
> news:42b35c9f$***@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>
>>Hi there,
>>
>>Sarns wrote:
>>
>>>Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
>
> that
>
>>>had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well
>
> i
>
>>>applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
>>>HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
>>>ONNN!!!!!
>>
>>Awesome score girl! All that hard work repaid in kind! :-)
>
> Indeed C :-) and listening to other people who love me badgering me on LOL!
> Thanx!!

No worries! Nowt wrong with well-intentioned friendly badgering to
help motivate someone to better things... :-)


--
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[EMB]

Sarns wrote:
> Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job that
> had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well i
> applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> ONNN!!!!!
>
> Sarns
>
>
Well done Sarns - I hope the new job lives up to your hopes and
expectations.

--
EMB

[Sarns]

"EMB" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d90psp$cp2$***@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Sarns wrote:
> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
that
> > had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well
i
> > applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> > HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> > ONNN!!!!!
> >
> > Sarns
> >
> >
> Well done Sarns - I hope the new job lives up to your hopes and
> expectations.
>
> --
> EMB

Thanx EMBer... it already has :D

Sarns

[Tilly]

Sarns wrote:
> Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the
> job that had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad
> study.......well i applied...went for the interview and found out
> today i've got it..WOOOOO HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is
> my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK ONNN!!!!!
>
> Sarns


Congrats Sarns!


--
***@hotmail.com

[Sarns]

"Tilly" <***@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:fG7te.8460$***@news.xtra.co.nz...
> Sarns wrote:
> > Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the
> > job that had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad
> > study.......well i applied...went for the interview and found out
> > today i've got it..WOOOOO HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is
> > my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK ONNN!!!!!
> >
> > Sarns
>
>
> Congrats Sarns!


Slobberrrrrsss Tills :D xx

Sarns

[Sc00ter]

On , , Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:52:28 +1200, I DID IT!!!!, "Sarns"
<***@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

>Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job that
>had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well i
>applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
>HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
>ONNN!!!!!

Is the fabulous job in Kuwait?

--
"I ain't proud of much I done in my life and what I
am proud of is disgusting." - Moe, "The Simpsons"

[Sarns]

"Sc00ter" <***@claer.net.zn> wrote in message
news:***@4ax.com...
> On , , Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:52:28 +1200, I DID IT!!!!, "Sarns"
> <***@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >Remember a few weeks back i was in angst over whether to go for the job
that
> >had cropped up that is directly related to my post grad study.......well
i
> >applied...went for the interview and found out today i've got it..WOOOOO
> >HOOOO!!! This isn't just a job...this is my CHOSEN CAREER PATH...ROCK
> >ONNN!!!!!
>
> Is the fabulous job in Kuwait?

No... the finance is raised for that and under process.... it's still in my
path..however the contacts i have there.. i would have a job any time i
want. For now i've decided to do my post grad then look further

Sarns