OT: Google Calendar

[Jenny M Benson]

I use Google Calendar and have added 2 other Calendars for live events
which are broadcast (at least weekly) from the US. One of them is
usually timed at 2 pm EST and for the next 2 events (which are
advertised as starting at 2 pm EST), Google has shown the first at 6 pm
and the next at 7 pm GMT. The other event is timed at 10 am their time
from Phoenix, Arizona where they don't adjust their clocks for
Winter/Summer. I have been attending those webinars for over a year, at
5 pm in the Winter and 6 pm in the summer. Now I see that Google
Calendar tells me the timing is 4 pm GMT, though I know that they will
continue to be broadcast at 10 am Phoenix time.

Has Google lost the plot?

[Nick Leverton]

Post by Jenny M Benson
I use Google Calendar and have added 2 other Calendars for live events
which are broadcast (at least weekly) from the US. One of them is
usually timed at 2 pm EST and for the next 2 events (which are
advertised as starting at 2 pm EST), Google has shown the first at 6 pm
and the next at 7 pm GMT. The other event is timed at 10 am their time
from Phoenix, Arizona where they don't adjust their clocks for
Winter/Summer. I have been attending those webinars for over a year, at
5 pm in the Winter and 6 pm in the summer. Now I see that Google
Calendar tells me the timing is 4 pm GMT, though I know that they will
continue to be broadcast at 10 am Phoenix time.
Has Google lost the plot?

I don't use Google apps, but I do know somewhat about how time zone
software generally works (except in Windows which is a law to itself
and usually does things wrongly/the hard way (delete as applicable)).

First thing I would check is whether the Phoenix events are actually
listed in the calendar as Mountain Time, or whether the calendar events
are for some reason in EST/EDT like the East Coast ones ? EST/EDT is
a common default timezone for historical reasons (probably to do with
the location of MIT) and possibly whoever listed them didn't set them
up correctly.

Nick

[BrritSki]

Post by Jenny M Benson
from Phoenix, Arizona where they don't adjust their clocks for
Winter/Summer.

Are you sure about that ? I though the USians DID adjust their clocks,
but change on a different date to us...

[Jenny M Benson]

Post by Jenny M Benson
from Phoenix, Arizona where they don't adjust their clocks for
Winter/Summer.

Are you sure about that ?   I though the USians DID adjust their clocks,
but change on a different date to us...

I think in most places they do, but AIUI they don't in Phoenix - maybe
the whole of Arizona but I only know what the person presenting the
events from Phoenix has said.

[BrritSki]

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by Jenny M Benson
from Phoenix, Arizona where they don't adjust their clocks for
Winter/Summer.

Are you sure about that ?   I though the USians DID adjust their
clocks, but change on a different date to us...

I think in most places they do, but AIUI they don't in Phoenix - maybe
the whole of Arizona but I only know what the person presenting the
events from Phoenix has said.

Coo. You learn something new every day on umra.

"Most of the US state of Arizona does not use Daylight Saving Time
(DST). The exception is the Navajo Nation. Most of Arizona has no
Daylight Saving Time. ... With the exception of the Navajo Nation,
Arizona does not set the clocks forward 1 hour in spring for DST with
the rest of the United States."

[Tony Smith Gloucestershire]

On Thursday, 31 October 2019 14:36:30 UTC, BrritSki wrote:

<snipped>

Post by BrritSki
"Most of the US state of Arizona does not use Daylight Saving Time
(DST). The exception is the Navajo Nation. Most of Arizona has no
Daylight Saving Time. ... With the exception of the Navajo Nation,
Arizona does not set the clocks forward 1 hour in spring for DST with
the rest of the United States."

Neither does Belarus. We made a day trip to Grodno. I had checked they use Moscow Time but failed to spot they don't use Summer Time.

Grodno bus station is every bit as boring as any British bus station to while away an extra hour in. We could have had a proper meal rather than using a snack bar opposite the bus station.

[Nick Odell]

On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:44:36 -0700 (PDT), Tony Smith Gloucestershire

Post by Tony Smith Gloucestershire
<snipped>

Post by BrritSki
"Most of the US state of Arizona does not use Daylight Saving Time
(DST). The exception is the Navajo Nation. Most of Arizona has no
Daylight Saving Time. ... With the exception of the Navajo Nation,
Arizona does not set the clocks forward 1 hour in spring for DST with
the rest of the United States."

Neither does Belarus. We made a day trip to Grodno. I had checked they use Moscow Time but failed to spot they don't use Summer Time.
Grodno bus station is every bit as boring as any British bus station to while away an extra hour in. We could have had a proper meal rather than using a snack bar opposite the bus station.

Argentina doesn't have daylight saving time: they set their clocks
three hours behind GMT even though the capital city is almost as far
to the west of the three-hour marker as it is possible to go and most
of the country really ought to be in the four-hour zone. Chile, its
neighbour, is one hour behind Argentina but during the summer, when it
observes DST, the times are the same.

We had booked seats on a very early international bus from Bariloche,
near the west of Argentina to Puerto Montt as far to the west of Chile
as it is possible to go at that latitude. I'm always a bit nervous
about turning up late for a long-distance trip so tend to err on the
side of caution. Time spent in the cafe watching your
train/boat/plane/bus preparing for boarding is never wasted time IMO.
We arrived at Bariloche with more than an hour to spare and a bus to
Puerto Montt was already boarding. It was quarter to six.

I hadn't realised that Puerto Montt was such a popular destination so
I casually asked how many buses ran there each day.

"Just the one," came the reply

"But we have booked seats on the seven o'clock"

"This is the seven o'clock."

"But it's not even six o'clock yet!"

"Oh. The seven o'clock bus always leaves at six o'clock in the
summer."

And that explanation was all that I was going to get.

Nick

[Mike]

Post by Nick Odell
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:44:36 -0700 (PDT), Tony Smith Gloucestershire

Post by Tony Smith Gloucestershire
<snipped>

Post by BrritSki
"Most of the US state of Arizona does not use Daylight Saving Time
(DST). The exception is the Navajo Nation. Most of Arizona has no
Daylight Saving Time. ... With the exception of the Navajo Nation,
Arizona does not set the clocks forward 1 hour in spring for DST with
the rest of the United States."

Neither does Belarus. We made a day trip to Grodno. I had checked they
use Moscow Time but failed to spot they don't use Summer Time.
Grodno bus station is every bit as boring as any British bus station to
while away an extra hour in. We could have had a proper meal rather than
using a snack bar opposite the bus station.

Argentina doesn't have daylight saving time: they set their clocks
three hours behind GMT even though the capital city is almost as far
to the west of the three-hour marker as it is possible to go and most
of the country really ought to be in the four-hour zone. Chile, its
neighbour, is one hour behind Argentina but during the summer, when it
observes DST, the times are the same.
We had booked seats on a very early international bus from Bariloche,
near the west of Argentina to Puerto Montt as far to the west of Chile
as it is possible to go at that latitude. I'm always a bit nervous
about turning up late for a long-distance trip so tend to err on the
side of caution. Time spent in the cafe watching your
train/boat/plane/bus preparing for boarding is never wasted time IMO.
We arrived at Bariloche with more than an hour to spare and a bus to
Puerto Montt was already boarding. It was quarter to six.
I hadn't realised that Puerto Montt was such a popular destination so
I casually asked how many buses ran there each day.
"Just the one," came the reply
"But we have booked seats on the seven o'clock"
"This is the seven o'clock."
"But it's not even six o'clock yet!"
"Oh. The seven o'clock bus always leaves at six o'clock in the
summer."
And that explanation was all that I was going to get.
Nick

And China has just the one timezone....

[Chris J Dixon]

Post by Nick Odell
I hadn't realised that Puerto Montt was such a popular destination so
I casually asked how many buses ran there each day.
"Just the one," came the reply
"But we have booked seats on the seven o'clock"
"This is the seven o'clock."
"But it's not even six o'clock yet!"
"Oh. The seven o'clock bus always leaves at six o'clock in the
summer."

When is the next bus?

It has just left.

Chris

[John Ashby]

Post by BrritSki

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by Jenny M Benson
from Phoenix, Arizona where they don't adjust their clocks for
Winter/Summer.

Are you sure about that ?   I though the USians DID adjust their
clocks, but change on a different date to us...

I think in most places they do, but AIUI they don't in Phoenix - maybe
the whole of Arizona but I only know what the person presenting the
events from Phoenix has said.

Coo. You learn something new every day on umra.
"Most of the US state of Arizona does not use Daylight Saving Time
(DST). The exception is the Navajo Nation. Most of Arizona has no
Daylight Saving Time. ... With the exception of the Navajo Nation,
Arizona does not set the clocks forward 1 hour in spring for DST with
the rest of the United States."

Just to clarify, does Arizona use Daylight Saving Time?

john

[Nick Leverton]

Post by John Ashby

Post by BrritSki

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by Jenny M Benson
from Phoenix, Arizona where they don't adjust their clocks for
Winter/Summer.

Are you sure about that ?   I though the USians DID adjust their
clocks, but change on a different date to us...

I think in most places they do, but AIUI they don't in Phoenix - maybe
the whole of Arizona but I only know what the person presenting the
events from Phoenix has said.

Coo. You learn something new every day on umra.
"Most of the US state of Arizona does not use Daylight Saving Time
(DST). The exception is the Navajo Nation. Most of Arizona has no
Daylight Saving Time. ... With the exception of the Navajo Nation,
Arizona does not set the clocks forward 1 hour in spring for DST with
the rest of the United States."

Just to clarify, does Arizona use Daylight Saving Time?

:-) the thread for that question is thataway ----->

Nick

[Mike]

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by Jenny M Benson
from Phoenix, Arizona where they don't adjust their clocks for
Winter/Summer.

Are you sure about that ?   I though the USians DID adjust their clocks,
but change on a different date to us...

I think in most places they do, but AIUI they don't in Phoenix - maybe
the whole of Arizona but I only know what the person presenting the
events from Phoenix has said.

Was he a ghost presenter?

[Sam Plusnet]

Post by Jenny M Benson
from Phoenix, Arizona where they don't adjust their clocks for
Winter/Summer.

Are you sure about that ?   I though the USians DID adjust their clocks,
but change on a different date to us...

Each state does its own thing.

[Penny]

On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 11:47:42 +0000, Jenny M Benson <***@hotmail.co.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Jenny M Benson
I use Google Calendar and have added 2 other Calendars for live events
which are broadcast (at least weekly) from the US. One of them is
usually timed at 2 pm EST and for the next 2 events (which are
advertised as starting at 2 pm EST), Google has shown the first at 6 pm
and the next at 7 pm GMT. The other event is timed at 10 am their time
from Phoenix, Arizona where they don't adjust their clocks for
Winter/Summer. I have been attending those webinars for over a year, at
5 pm in the Winter and 6 pm in the summer. Now I see that Google
Calendar tells me the timing is 4 pm GMT, though I know that they will
continue to be broadcast at 10 am Phoenix time.
Has Google lost the plot?

Can't answer that but I find it convenient to record some of the American
TV series I enjoy, in the early hours of the morning when they are less
likely to interfere with other viewing/recording activity. My PVR let me
down badly on Sunday night/Monday morning by getting the times wrong :(

[Sid Nuncius]

The other event is timed at 10 am their time from Phoenix

That's my earworm for the evening, then. Glenn Campbell has already
started in my head...

[Mike]

Post by Sid Nuncius

The other event is timed at 10 am their time from Phoenix

That's my earworm for the evening, then. Glenn Campbell has already
started in my head...

But you haven’t reached the place yet Sid? It must be bad.

[Vicky Ayech]

On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 18:22:32 +0000, Sid Nuncius

Post by Sid Nuncius

The other event is timed at 10 am their time from Phoenix

That's my earworm for the evening, then. Glenn Campbell has

I've had this all day after seeing a post
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/21/middleeast/lebanon-protests-baby-shark-trnd/index.html?no-st=1572105212

[BrritSki]

The other event is timed at 10 am their time from Phoenix

That's my earworm for the evening, then.  Glenn Campbell has already
started in my head...
Just as well it wasn't Tulsa or it would have been with you for 24 hours !

[Sid Nuncius]

The other event is timed at 10 am their time from Phoenix

That's my earworm for the evening, then.  Glenn Campbell has already
started in my head...

Just as well it wasn't Tulsa or it would have been with you for 24 hours !

:o)
Mind you, they live on their own time there: