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New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans at the End of World War Two
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John Baker
2008-04-21 22:19:08 UTC
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New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two



By Mark Weber








Germany's defeat in May 1945, and the end of World War II in Europe, did not
bring an end to death and suffering for the vanquished German people.
Instead the victorious Allies ushered in a horrible new era that, in many
ways, was worse than the destruction wrought by war.

In a sobering and courageous new book, After the Reich: The Brutal History
of Allied Occupation, British historian Giles MacDonogh details how the
ruined and prostrate Reich (including Austria) was systematically raped and
robbed, and how many Germans who survived the war were either killed in cold
blood or deliberately left to die of disease, cold, malnutrition or
starvation.

Many people take the view that, given the wartime misdeeds of the Nazis,
some degree of vengeful violence against the defeated Germans was inevitable
and perhaps justified. A common response to reports of Allied atrocities is
to say that the Germans "deserved what they got." But as MacDonogh
establishes, the appalling cruelties inflicted on the totally prostrate
German people went far beyond that.

His best estimate is that some three million Germans, military and
civilians, died unnecessarily after the official end of hostilities.

A million of these were men who were being held as prisoners of war, most of
whom died in Soviet captivity. (Of the 90,000 Germans who surrendered at
Stalingrad, for example, only 5,000 ever returned to their homeland.) Less
well known is the story of the many thousands of German prisoners who died
in American and British captivity, most infamously in horrid holding camps
along the Rhine river, with no shelter and very little food. Others, more
fortunate, toiled as slave labor in Allied countries, often for years.

Most of the two million German civilians who perished after the end of the
war were women, children and elderly -- victims of disease, cold, hunger,
suicide, and mass murder.

Apart from the wide-scale rape of millions of German girls and woman in the
Soviet occupation zones, perhaps the most shocking outrage recorded by
MacDonogh is the slaughter of a quarter of a million Sudeten Germans by
their vengeful Czech compatriots. The wretched survivors of this ethnic
cleansing were pitched across the border, never to return to their homes.
There were similar scenes of death and dispossession in Pomerania, Silesia
and East Prussia as the age-old German communities of those provinces were
likewise brutally expunged.

We are ceaselessly reminded of the Third Reich's wartime concentration
camps. But few Americans are aware that such infamous camps as Dachau,
Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen and Auschwitz stayed in business after the end of
the war, only now packed with German captives, many of whom perished
miserably.

The vengeful plan by US Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau to turn defeated
Germany into an impoverished "pastoral" country, stripped of modern
industry, is recounted by MacDonogh, as well as other genocidal schemes to
starve, sterilize or deport the population of what was left of the
bombed-out cities.

It wasn't an awakening of humanitarian concern that prompted a change in
American and British attitudes toward the defeated Germans. The shift in
postwar policy was based on fear of Soviet Russian expansion, and prompted a
calculated appeal to the German public to support the new anti-Soviet stance
of the US and Britain.

MacDonogh's important book is an antidote to the simplistic but enduring
propaganda portrait of World War II as a clash between Good and Evil, and
debunks the widely accepted image of benevolent Allied treatment of defeated
Germany.

This 615-page volume is much more than a gruesome chronicle of death and
human suffering. Enhanced with moving anecdotes, it also provides historical
context and perspective. It is probably the best work available in English
on this shameful chapter of twentieth century history
--
John Baker
***@yahoo.com


" Live and let live "
AirRaid
2008-04-21 22:30:28 UTC
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Fuck the god damn Germans.

I WOULD hope they suffered after WWII for allowing a monster like
Hitler rise to power.
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
By Mark Weber
Germany's defeat in May 1945, and the end of World War II in Europe, did not
bring an end to death and suffering for the vanquished German people.
Instead the victorious Allies ushered in a horrible new era that, in many
ways, was worse than the destruction wrought by war.
In a sobering and courageous new book, After the Reich: The Brutal History
of Allied Occupation, British historian Giles MacDonogh details how the
ruined and prostrate Reich (including Austria) was systematically raped and
robbed, and how many Germans who survived the war were either killed in cold
blood or deliberately left to die of disease, cold, malnutrition or
starvation.
Many people take the view that, given the wartime misdeeds of the Nazis,
some degree of vengeful violence against the defeated Germans was inevitable
and perhaps justified. A common response to reports of Allied atrocities is
to say that the Germans "deserved what they got." But as MacDonogh
establishes, the appalling cruelties inflicted on the totally prostrate
German people went far beyond that.
His best estimate is that some three million Germans, military and
civilians, died unnecessarily after the official end of hostilities.
A million of these were men who were being held as prisoners of war, most of
whom died in Soviet captivity. (Of the 90,000 Germans who surrendered at
Stalingrad, for example, only 5,000 ever returned to their homeland.) Less
well known is the story of the many thousands of German prisoners who died
in American and British captivity, most infamously in horrid holding camps
along the Rhine river, with no shelter and very little food. Others, more
fortunate, toiled as slave labor in Allied countries, often for years.
Most of the two million German civilians who perished after the end of the
war were women, children and elderly -- victims of disease, cold, hunger,
suicide, and mass murder.
Apart from the wide-scale rape of millions of German girls and woman in the
Soviet occupation zones, perhaps the most shocking outrage recorded by
MacDonogh is the slaughter of a quarter of a million Sudeten Germans by
their vengeful Czech compatriots. The wretched survivors of this ethnic
cleansing were pitched across the border, never to return to their homes.
There were similar scenes of death and dispossession in Pomerania, Silesia
and East Prussia as the age-old German communities of those provinces were
likewise brutally expunged.
We are ceaselessly reminded of the Third Reich's wartime concentration
camps. But few Americans are aware that such infamous camps as Dachau,
Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen and Auschwitz stayed in business after the end of
the war, only now packed with German captives, many of whom perished
miserably.
The vengeful plan by US Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau to turn defeated
Germany into an impoverished "pastoral" country, stripped of modern
industry, is recounted by MacDonogh, as well as other genocidal schemes to
starve, sterilize or deport the population of what was left of the
bombed-out cities.
It wasn't an awakening of humanitarian concern that prompted a change in
American and British attitudes toward the defeated Germans. The shift in
postwar policy was based on fear of Soviet Russian expansion, and prompted a
calculated appeal to the German public to support the new anti-Soviet stance
of the US and Britain.
MacDonogh's important book is an antidote to the simplistic but enduring
propaganda portrait of World War II as a clash between Good and Evil, and
debunks the widely accepted image of benevolent Allied treatment of defeated
Germany.
This 615-page volume is much more than a gruesome chronicle of death and
human suffering. Enhanced with moving anecdotes, it also provides historical
context and perspective. It is probably the best work available in English
on this shameful chapter of twentieth century history
--
John Baker
" Live and let live "
Anarchore
2008-04-22 00:43:16 UTC
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Post by AirRaid
Fuck the god damn Germans.
I WOULD hope they suffered after WWII for allowing a monster like
Hitler rise to power.
Your monsters are everywhere.
Post by AirRaid
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
By Mark Weber
Germany's defeat in May 1945, and the end of World War II in
Europe, did not bring an end to death and suffering for the
vanquished German people. Instead the victorious Allies ushered
in a horrible new era that, in many ways, was worse than the
destruction wrought by war.
In a sobering and courageous new book, After the Reich: The Brutal
History of Allied Occupation, British historian Giles MacDonogh
details how the ruined and prostrate Reich (including Austria) was
systematically raped and robbed, and how many Germans who survived
the war were either killed in cold blood or deliberately left to
die of disease, cold, malnutrition or starvation.
Many people take the view that, given the wartime misdeeds of the
Nazis, some degree of vengeful violence against the defeated
Germans was inevitable and perhaps justified. A common response to
reports of Allied atrocities is to say that the Germans "deserved
what they got." But as MacDonogh establishes, the appalling
cruelties inflicted on the totally prostrate German people went
far beyond that.
His best estimate is that some three million Germans, military and
civilians, died unnecessarily after the official end of
hostilities.
A million of these were men who were being held as prisoners of
war, most of whom died in Soviet captivity. (Of the 90,000 Germans
who surrendered at Stalingrad, for example, only 5,000 ever
returned to their homeland.) Less well known is the story of the
many thousands of German prisoners who died in American and
British captivity, most infamously in horrid holding camps along
the Rhine river, with no shelter and very little food. Others, more
fortunate, toiled as slave labor in Allied countries, often for years.
Most of the two million German civilians who perished after the
end of the war were women, children and elderly -- victims of
disease, cold, hunger, suicide, and mass murder.
Apart from the wide-scale rape of millions of German girls and
woman in the Soviet occupation zones, perhaps the most shocking
outrage recorded by MacDonogh is the slaughter of a quarter of a
million Sudeten Germans by their vengeful Czech compatriots. The
wretched survivors of this ethnic cleansing were pitched across
the border, never to return to their homes. There were similar
scenes of death and dispossession in Pomerania, Silesia and East
Prussia as the age-old German communities of those provinces were
likewise brutally expunged.
We are ceaselessly reminded of the Third Reich's wartime
concentration camps. But few Americans are aware that such
infamous camps as Dachau, Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen and Auschwitz
stayed in business after the end of the war, only now packed with
German captives, many of whom perished miserably.
The vengeful plan by US Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau to
turn defeated Germany into an impoverished "pastoral" country,
stripped of modern industry, is recounted by MacDonogh, as well as
other genocidal schemes to starve, sterilize or deport the
population of what was left of the bombed-out cities.
It wasn't an awakening of humanitarian concern that prompted a
change in American and British attitudes toward the defeated
Germans. The shift in postwar policy was based on fear of Soviet
Russian expansion, and prompted a calculated appeal to the German
public to support the new anti-Soviet stance of the US and Britain.
MacDonogh's important book is an antidote to the simplistic but
enduring propaganda portrait of World War II as a clash between
Good and Evil, and debunks the widely accepted image of benevolent
Allied treatment of defeated Germany.
This 615-page volume is much more than a gruesome chronicle of
death and human suffering. Enhanced with moving anecdotes, it also
provides historical context and perspective. It is probably the
best work available in English on this shameful chapter of
twentieth century history
--
John Baker
" Live and let live "
--
If you're thick enough to believe that Jews are your enemy why the
fuck would I want to have anything to do with you.
Consider me a Jew.
Consider me a fag.
Consider me an immigrant.
B. Cramer
2008-04-22 09:54:55 UTC
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Post by AirRaid
Fuck the god damn Germans.
I WOULD hope they suffered after WWII for allowing a monster like
Hitler rise to power.
I see you believe the yid's "official" version of history.

Well done. Another gullible fool for the collection.
Post by AirRaid
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
By Mark Weber
Germany's defeat in May 1945, and the end of World War II in Europe, did not
bring an end to death and suffering for the vanquished German people.
Instead the victorious Allies ushered in a horrible new era that, in many
ways, was worse than the destruction wrought by war.
In a sobering and courageous new book, After the Reich: The Brutal History
of Allied Occupation, British historian Giles MacDonogh details how the
ruined and prostrate Reich (including Austria) was systematically raped and
robbed, and how many Germans who survived the war were either killed in cold
blood or deliberately left to die of disease, cold, malnutrition or
starvation.
Many people take the view that, given the wartime misdeeds of the Nazis,
some degree of vengeful violence against the defeated Germans was inevitable
and perhaps justified. A common response to reports of Allied atrocities is
to say that the Germans "deserved what they got." But as MacDonogh
establishes, the appalling cruelties inflicted on the totally prostrate
German people went far beyond that.
His best estimate is that some three million Germans, military and
civilians, died unnecessarily after the official end of hostilities.
A million of these were men who were being held as prisoners of war, most of
whom died in Soviet captivity. (Of the 90,000 Germans who surrendered at
Stalingrad, for example, only 5,000 ever returned to their homeland.)
Less
well known is the story of the many thousands of German prisoners who died
in American and British captivity, most infamously in horrid holding camps
along the Rhine river, with no shelter and very little food. Others, more
fortunate, toiled as slave labor in Allied countries, often for years.
Most of the two million German civilians who perished after the end of the
war were women, children and elderly -- victims of disease, cold, hunger,
suicide, and mass murder.
Apart from the wide-scale rape of millions of German girls and woman in the
Soviet occupation zones, perhaps the most shocking outrage recorded by
MacDonogh is the slaughter of a quarter of a million Sudeten Germans by
their vengeful Czech compatriots. The wretched survivors of this ethnic
cleansing were pitched across the border, never to return to their homes.
There were similar scenes of death and dispossession in Pomerania, Silesia
and East Prussia as the age-old German communities of those provinces were
likewise brutally expunged.
We are ceaselessly reminded of the Third Reich's wartime concentration
camps. But few Americans are aware that such infamous camps as Dachau,
Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen and Auschwitz stayed in business after the end of
the war, only now packed with German captives, many of whom perished
miserably.
The vengeful plan by US Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau to turn defeated
Germany into an impoverished "pastoral" country, stripped of modern
industry, is recounted by MacDonogh, as well as other genocidal schemes to
starve, sterilize or deport the population of what was left of the
bombed-out cities.
It wasn't an awakening of humanitarian concern that prompted a change in
American and British attitudes toward the defeated Germans. The shift in
postwar policy was based on fear of Soviet Russian expansion, and prompted a
calculated appeal to the German public to support the new anti-Soviet stance
of the US and Britain.
MacDonogh's important book is an antidote to the simplistic but enduring
propaganda portrait of World War II as a clash between Good and Evil, and
debunks the widely accepted image of benevolent Allied treatment of defeated
Germany.
This 615-page volume is much more than a gruesome chronicle of death and
human suffering. Enhanced with moving anecdotes, it also provides historical
context and perspective. It is probably the best work available in English
on this shameful chapter of twentieth century history
--
John Baker
" Live and let live "
gatt
2008-04-22 14:25:10 UTC
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Post by B. Cramer
Post by AirRaid
Fuck the god damn Germans.
I WOULD hope they suffered after WWII for allowing a monster like
Hitler rise to power.
I see you believe the yid's "official" version of history.
Well done. Another gullible fool for the collection.
That's it. Time to start bombing Dresden again. Back-breathing shithead.

-c
Anarchore
2008-04-22 14:44:15 UTC
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Post by gatt
Post by B. Cramer
om...
Post by AirRaid
Fuck the god damn Germans.
I WOULD hope they suffered after WWII for allowing a monster like
Hitler rise to power.
I see you believe the yid's "official" version of history.
Well done. Another gullible fool for the collection.
That's it. Time to start bombing Dresden again. Back-breathing shithead.
Filthy genocidal Zionist Jewboy, we will get you off our backs!
Germany is about to throw you fuckers in the river!
--
If you're thick enough to believe that Jews are your enemy why the
fuck would I want to have anything to do with you.
Consider me a Jew.
Consider me a fag.
Consider me an immigrant.
gatt
2008-04-22 18:28:52 UTC
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Post by Anarchore
Filthy genocidal Zionist Jewboy, we will get you off our backs!
Germany is about to throw you fuckers in the river!
I'm not remotely Jewish, stupid.

In fact, my ancestors came from Germany. They returned to bomb and
shoot them, and saw what the Germans were doing while they were there,
which is they didn't regret killing so much Nazi trash.

Ha Ha.

I got invited to play guitar at a huge-ass musical festival there a few
years ago, but when I think of 80,000 screaming Germans, I think of Dresden.

-c
Anarchore
2008-04-22 20:04:17 UTC
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Post by gatt
Post by Anarchore
Filthy genocidal Zionist Jewboy, we will get you off our backs!
Germany is about to throw you fuckers in the river!
I'm not remotely Jewish, stupid.
You're emphatically Jewish, Jewboy.
Post by gatt
In fact, my ancestors came from Germany. They returned to bomb and
shoot them, and saw what the Germans were doing while they were
there, which is they didn't regret killing so much Nazi trash.
Lying Jewboy.
Post by gatt
Ha Ha.
Jew.
Post by gatt
I got invited to play guitar at a huge-ass musical festival there a
few years ago, but when I think of 80,000 screaming Germans, I think
of Dresden.
Jewboy.
--
If you're thick enough to believe that Jews are your enemy why the
fuck would I want to have anything to do with you.
Consider me a Jew.
Consider me a fag.
Consider me an immigrant.
gatt
2008-04-22 20:39:22 UTC
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Post by Anarchore
Post by gatt
Post by Anarchore
Filthy genocidal Zionist Jewboy, we will get you off our backs!
Germany is about to throw you fuckers in the river!
I'm not remotely Jewish, stupid.
You're emphatically Jewish, Jewboy.
Getting called a "jew" doesn't bother me any more than being called
Chinese or Mormon might.

All it does is prove how desperately stupid you'd have to be to make
such a claim. I'm named after a Grand Wizard. T'was his sons that
murdered so many Germans. You simply don't rank. Hell, you're
probably not even a legitimate Aryan. 'Course, neither was your
fraudulent drug-addict hero.
Post by Anarchore
Post by gatt
They returned to bomb and
shoot them, and saw what the Germans were doing while they were
there, which is they didn't regret killing so much Nazi trash.
Lying Jewboy.
Check the records, Nazi-wannabe. Jewboy. You're not even an effective
troll.


-c
Anarchore
2008-04-23 00:41:05 UTC
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Post by gatt
Post by Anarchore
Post by gatt
Post by Anarchore
Filthy genocidal Zionist Jewboy, we will get you off our backs!
Germany is about to throw you fuckers in the river!
I'm not remotely Jewish, stupid.
You're emphatically Jewish, Jewboy.
Getting called a "jew" doesn't bother me any more than being called
Chinese or Mormon might.
All it does is prove how desperately stupid you'd have to be to make
such a claim. I'm named after a Grand Wizard. T'was his sons that
murdered so many Germans. You simply don't rank. Hell, you're
probably not even a legitimate Aryan. 'Course, neither was your
fraudulent drug-addict hero.
Collective punishment is a tactic enjoyed by you desert sand-eaters and
worshipers of elder Cthulu.

Who else but a mentally-ill Jew raised on a lifetime of hate would
claim joy at burning alive the sick, women and children at Dresden?
Post by gatt
Post by Anarchore
Post by gatt
They returned to bomb and
shoot them, and saw what the Germans were doing while they were
there, which is they didn't regret killing so much Nazi trash.
Lying Jewboy.
Check the records, Nazi-wannabe. Jewboy. You're not even an
effective troll.
-c
--
If you're thick enough to believe that Jews are your enemy why the
fuck would I want to have anything to do with you.
Consider me a Jew.
Consider me a fag.
Consider me an immigrant.
gatt
2008-04-23 01:12:36 UTC
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Post by Anarchore
Collective punishment is a tactic enjoyed by you desert sand-eaters and
worshipers of elder Cthulu.
Who else but a mentally-ill Jew raised on a lifetime of hate would
claim joy at burning alive the sick, women and children at Dresden?
Q: How many Dresden citizens can you put in a Volkswagen?
A: 40,000 if you have a shovel.
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-23 01:27:51 UTC
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Post by gatt
Post by Anarchore
Collective punishment is a tactic enjoyed by you desert sand-eaters and
worshipers of elder Cthulu.
Who else but a mentally-ill Jew raised on a lifetime of hate would
claim joy at burning alive the sick, women and children at Dresden?
Q: How many Dresden citizens can you put in a Volkswagen?
A: 40,000 if you have a shovel.
The ameriKKKans should not have bombed Dresden!!
Logan 5
2008-04-23 03:53:57 UTC
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:27:51 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gatt
Post by Anarchore
Collective punishment is a tactic enjoyed by you desert sand-eaters and
worshipers of elder Cthulu.
Who else but a mentally-ill Jew raised on a lifetime of hate would
claim joy at burning alive the sick, women and children at Dresden?
Q: How many Dresden citizens can you put in a Volkswagen?
A: 40,000 if you have a shovel.
The ameriKKKans should not have bombed Dresden!!
Sod off, Heinz~!
Al Nakba
2008-04-23 15:59:44 UTC
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Post by Logan 5
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:27:51 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by gatt
 Collective punishment is a tactic enjoyed by you desert sand-eaters and
worshipers of elder Cthulu.
Who else but a mentally-ill Jew raised on a lifetime of hate would
claim joy at burning alive the sick, women and children at Dresden?
Q: How many Dresden citizens can you put in a Volkswagen?
A: 40,000 if you have a shovel.
           The ameriKKKans should not have bombed Dresden!!
Sod off, Heinz~!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
They lost a war they started. There were bound to be consequences..
Anarchore
2008-04-23 18:30:03 UTC
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Post by Al Nakba
Post by Logan 5
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:27:51 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by gatt
 Collective punishment is a tactic enjoyed by you desert
sand-eaters and >>> worshipers of elder Cthulu.
Post by gatt
Who else but a mentally-ill Jew raised on a lifetime of hate
would >>> claim joy at burning alive the sick, women and children
at Dresden?
Post by gatt
Q: How many Dresden citizens can you put in a Volkswagen?
A: 40,000 if you have a shovel.
           The ameriKKKans should not have bombed Dresden!!
Sod off, Heinz~!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
They lost a war they started. There were bound to be consequences..
War crimes.
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If you're thick enough to believe that Jews are your enemy why the
fuck would I want to have anything to do with you.
Consider me a Jew.
Consider me a fag.
Consider me an immigrant.
gene
2008-04-23 04:09:11 UTC
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You dumb fu*k...it was the Brits
Post by Robert Sveinson
The ameriKKKans should not have bombed Dresden!!
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-23 16:20:59 UTC
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Post by gene
You dumb fu*k...it was the Brits
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.

The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945, 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945.

Can you count the difference??
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-24 01:13:15 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
You dumb fu*k...it was the Brits
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945, 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945.
Can you count the difference??
gene
2008-04-24 02:00:34 UTC
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The "FIREBOMBING OF DRESDEN"....which is what was being discussed you moron,
was done by over 700 aircraft of BRITISH BOMBER COMMAND dropping 1400 tons
of HE bombs and 1100 tons of incendiarys on the CITY CENTRE early on the
14rh of February 1945...by the time the USAAF got there, later on the 14th,
the city was already an inferno...the USAAF dropped 780 tons on the rail
yards on the 14th AFTER the Brits had alredy fried the city centre...the
USAAF attacked the rail yards again on the 15th, dropping 460 tons of HE
bombs...no incendiarys.

The Brits are the ones who fried the city....all the raids by the USAAF that
you listed targeted the RAIL YARDS...away from the city centre.
Post by Robert Sveinson
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945, 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945.
Can you count the difference??
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-25 00:38:32 UTC
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Post by gene
The "FIREBOMBING OF DRESDEN"....which is what was being discussed you moron,
was done by over 700 aircraft of BRITISH BOMBER COMMAND dropping 1400 tons
of HE bombs and 1100 tons of incendiarys on the CITY CENTRE early on the
14rh of February 1945...by the time the USAAF got there, later on the 14th,
the city was already an inferno...the USAAF dropped 780 tons on the rail
yards on the 14th AFTER the Brits had alredy fried the city centre...the
USAAF attacked the rail yards again on the 15th, dropping 460 tons of HE
bombs...no incendiarys.
Sooo! It took 5 trys to bomb thr rail yards did it?
No pickle barrels down there to aim at so it
was just spread around?

I know how difficult it will be for you
to read the following, as it's not in "comic book"
format. Maybe some one could read it to you.
Post by gene
The Brits are the ones who fried the city....all the raids by the USAAF that
you listed targeted the RAIL YARDS...away from the city centre.
http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/dresden.htm

. In as much as it is exclusively the 14-15 February 1945 bombings of
Dresden that have repeatedly been the subject of inquiry and controversy and
the basis of Communist propaganda, the subsequent historical analysis and
the attached supporting documents are primarily concerned with and relevant
to the February bombings only. Nevertheless, as a matter of record, the
following is an authoritative tabulation of all Allied bombings of Dresden:
1

NOTE!! Below, the tonnage of incendiaries dropped
by the USAAF that you knew nothing about.


Date
Target Area
Force
Acft
High Explosive bombs on target (tons)
Incediary bombs on target (tons)
Total
7/10/44
Marshalling Yards

8th AF
30
72.5

72.5
16/1/45
Marshalling Yards

8th AF
133
279.8 **41.6**
321.4
14/2/45
City Area

RAF BC
772
1477.7
1181.6
2659.3
14/2/45
Marshalling Yards

8th AF
316
487.7
**294.3**
782.0
15/2/45
Marshalling Yards

8th AF
211
465.6

465.6
2/3/45
Marshalling Yards

8th AF
406
940.3
**140.5**
1080.8
17/4/45
Marshalling Yards

8th AF
572
1526.4
**164.5**
1690.9
17/4/45
Industrial Area

8th AF
8
28.0

28.0




The Forces and Means Employed by the Allies in the Bombing of Dresden:

23. In the Dresden bombing attacks of 14-15 February 1945 the American
Eighth Air Force and the RAF Bomber Command together employed a total of
1299 bomber aircraft (527 from the Eighth Air Force, 722 from the RAF Bomber
Command) for a total weight, on targets, of 3906.9 tons. Of this tonnage,
1247.6 tons were expanded by the Eighth Air Force, 2659.3 tons by the RAF
Bomber Command. The Americans employed 953.3 tons of high explosive bombs
and** 294.3 tons of incendiary bombs**--all aimed at the Dresden Marshalling
Yards. The British employed 1477.7 tons of high explosive bombs and 1181.6
tons of incendiary bombs--all aimed against the Dresden city area.42 The
American aircraft used H2X (radar) bombing method, with visual assists, and
the British used the marker and visual method.43




I wonder what the USAAF thought would be in the marshalling yards
that *their incendiaries would burn. Can you tell me??


Look at this table and tell me that the noble ameriKKKans did nothing
serious at Dresden
Allied Aerial Bombardments of the Seven Largest German Cities99
Chart A


City
Population in 1939

American Tonnage British Tonnage
Total Tonnage

Berlin
4,339,000
22,090.3
45,517
67,607.3

Hamburg
1,129,000
17,104.6
22,583
39,687.6

Munich
841,000
11,471.4
7,858
27,110.9

Cologne
772,000
10,211.2
34,712
44,923.2

Leipzig
707,000
5,410.4
6,206
11,616.4

Essen
667,000
1,518.0
36,420
37,938.0

Dresden
642,000
**4,441.2**
2,659.3
7,100.5





http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/timeline/factfiles/nonflash/a1138385.shtml?sectionId=7&articleId=1138385

Fact File : Dresden Raid
13 to 15 February 1945

Theatre: Western Europe
Location: Dresden, eastern Germany
Players: Allies: Air Chief Marshal Sir Arthur Harris's RAF Bomber Command;
General James Doolittle's 8th US Army Air Force (USAAF).
Outcome: The devastation of the German city of Dresden.



There were five bombing raids on Dresden in 1945. The 8th USAAF bombed
Dresden on 16 January and 2 March, as well as carrying out raids
co-ordinated with Bomber Command on 14 and 15 February. Targeting Dresden's
marshalling yards, the US raids also caused damage in the city.



http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II_-_The_attacks/id/618605



Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks

Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks: Encyclopedia II -
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks

The railway yards, near the centre of Dresden, had been targeted and
bombed twice before the night of February 13 by the USAAF Eighth Air Force
in daytime raids: on October 7, 1944 with 70 tons of high-explosive bombs,
and then again with 133 bombers on January 16, 1945 during which 279 tons of
high-explosives and 41 tons of incendiaries were dropped.[12] The
firebombing campaign should have begun with an USAAF Eighth Air Force raid
on Dres ...
Post by gene
Post by Robert Sveinson
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945, 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945.
Can you count the difference??
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gatt
2008-04-25 00:59:57 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
the city was already an inferno...the USAAF dropped 780 tons on the rail
yards on the 14th AFTER the Brits had alredy fried the city centre...the
USAAF attacked the rail yards again on the 15th, dropping 460 tons of HE
bombs...no incendiarys.
Sooo! It took 5 trys to bomb thr rail yards did it?
No pickle barrels down there to aim at so it
was just spread around?
Sure. Why not? Jeez, you act like bombing the piss out of Nazis is a
BAD thing.

'Course they'd have been a lot more accurate if the Germans hadn't have
thrown up all that flak and fighter coverage to knock their aim off.

Freakin' Nazi cowards obviously didn't care about their own citizens any
more than they cared about bombing London at the beginning at the war,
so why should the allies? I don't suppose you've heard of the Battle of
Britain.

-c
B. Cramer
2008-04-25 01:41:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
the city was already an inferno...the USAAF dropped 780 tons on the rail
yards on the 14th AFTER the Brits had alredy fried the city centre...the
USAAF attacked the rail yards again on the 15th, dropping 460 tons of HE
bombs...no incendiarys.
Sooo! It took 5 trys to bomb thr rail yards did it?
No pickle barrels down there to aim at so it
was just spread around?
Sure. Why not? Jeez, you act like bombing the piss out of Nazis is a BAD
thing.
'Course they'd have been a lot more accurate if the Germans hadn't have
thrown up all that flak and fighter coverage to knock their aim off.
There was bugger all flak and NO aircover over Dresden.

But you continue with your yid lies and bullshit. You do it so very well.
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-25 01:54:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by gene
the city was already an inferno...the USAAF dropped 780 tons on the rail
yards on the 14th AFTER the Brits had alredy fried the city centre...the
USAAF attacked the rail yards again on the 15th, dropping 460 tons of HE
bombs...no incendiarys.
Sooo! It took 5 trys to bomb the rail yards did it?
No pickle barrels down there to aim at so it
was just spread around?
Sure. Why not? Jeez, you act like bombing the piss out of Nazis is a BAD
thing.
Well considering the *bragging done by the USAAF about how
accurate their bombing was, and they *never* aimed at civilians,
and considering that several times that they bombed BLIND,
oops "precision blind" it should only take
one visit to hit the rail lines, don't you think.
Oh! And the USAAF did indeed drop incendiaries. To
burn up the steel rails no doubt.
I don't suppose you've heard of the Battle of Britain.
Can you tell me about that?
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-25 03:23:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gatt
Post by gene
the city was already an inferno...the USAAF dropped 780 tons on the
rail yards on the 14th AFTER the Brits had alredy fried the city
centre...the USAAF attacked the rail yards again on the 15th,
dropping 460 tons of HE bombs...no incendiarys.
Sooo! It took 5 trys to bomb the rail yards did it?
No pickle barrels down there to aim at so it
was just spread around?
Sure. Why not? Jeez, you act like bombing the piss out of Nazis is a
BAD thing.
Well considering the *bragging done by the USAAF about how
accurate their bombing was, and they *never* aimed at civilians,
and considering that several times that they bombed BLIND,
oops "precision blind" it should only take
one visit to hit the rail lines, don't you think.
Oh! And the USAAF did indeed drop incendiaries. To
burn up the steel rails no doubt.
Nope. To burn rolling stock and wooden infrastructure such as locomotive
sheds.
Bill Shatzer
2008-04-25 04:43:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert Sveinson
Well considering the *bragging done by the USAAF about how
accurate their bombing was, and they *never* aimed at civilians,
and considering that several times that they bombed BLIND,
oops "precision blind" it should only take
one visit to hit the rail lines, don't you think.
Rail lines are remarkably easy to repair.

The USAAF bombing of the Dresden rail facilities was at approximately
one month intervals, starting in January, 1945. About the time required
to completely repair the rail lines.
Post by Robert Sveinson
Oh! And the USAAF did indeed drop incendiaries. To
burn up the steel rails no doubt.
War is hell. If you don't like the consequences of war, you shouldn't
start one.

"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give
them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman -
Post by Robert Sveinson
I don't suppose you've heard of the Battle of Britain.
Can you tell me about that?
He means the Blitz. But "Battle of Britain" is close enough.

Which was mostly non-precision bombing as well.

Later, the Germans went to the rather notorious V-1s and V-2s which were
even less accurate which landed more or less at random and were targeted
at cities in general without even the pretense of being aimed at
military targets.


Peace and justice,
gene
2008-04-25 02:20:25 UTC
Permalink
You're blind hatred of the USA is also clouding if not completely blinding
you to the facts in your own cite you cretin...it states catergorically that
the USAAF targetted the marshalling yards.
You further prove your stupidity by asking what the Americans thought
required the use of incendiaries in the marshalling yards...if you can't
figure that out you really are too stupid to be takeing up space on this
planet.

The more you post on here Sveinson, the more you only end up advertiseing
your ignorance. Keep up the good work.
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
The "FIREBOMBING OF DRESDEN"....which is what was being discussed you moron,
was done by over 700 aircraft of BRITISH BOMBER COMMAND dropping 1400 tons
of HE bombs and 1100 tons of incendiarys on the CITY CENTRE early on the
14rh of February 1945...by the time the USAAF got there, later on the 14th,
the city was already an inferno...the USAAF dropped 780 tons on the rail
yards on the 14th AFTER the Brits had alredy fried the city centre...the
USAAF attacked the rail yards again on the 15th, dropping 460 tons of HE
bombs...no incendiarys.
Sooo! It took 5 trys to bomb thr rail yards did it?
No pickle barrels down there to aim at so it
was just spread around?
I know how difficult it will be for you
to read the following, as it's not in "comic book"
format. Maybe some one could read it to you.
Post by gene
The Brits are the ones who fried the city....all the raids by the USAAF that
you listed targeted the RAIL YARDS...away from the city centre.
http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/dresden.htm
. In as much as it is exclusively the 14-15 February 1945 bombings of
Dresden that have repeatedly been the subject of inquiry and controversy
and the basis of Communist propaganda, the subsequent historical analysis
and the attached supporting documents are primarily concerned with and
relevant to the February bombings only. Nevertheless, as a matter of
record, the following is an authoritative tabulation of all Allied
bombings of Dresden: 1
NOTE!! Below, the tonnage of incendiaries dropped
by the USAAF that you knew nothing about.
Date
Target Area
Force
Acft
High Explosive bombs on target (tons)
Incediary bombs on target (tons)
Total
7/10/44
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
30
72.5
72.5
16/1/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
133
279.8 **41.6**
321.4
14/2/45
City Area
RAF BC
772
1477.7
1181.6
2659.3
14/2/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
316
487.7
**294.3**
782.0
15/2/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
211
465.6
465.6
2/3/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
406
940.3
**140.5**
1080.8
17/4/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
572
1526.4
**164.5**
1690.9
17/4/45
Industrial Area
8th AF
8
28.0
28.0
23. In the Dresden bombing attacks of 14-15 February 1945 the American
Eighth Air Force and the RAF Bomber Command together employed a total of
1299 bomber aircraft (527 from the Eighth Air Force, 722 from the RAF
Bomber Command) for a total weight, on targets, of 3906.9 tons. Of this
tonnage, 1247.6 tons were expanded by the Eighth Air Force, 2659.3 tons by
the RAF Bomber Command. The Americans employed 953.3 tons of high
explosive bombs and** 294.3 tons of incendiary bombs**--all aimed at the
Dresden Marshalling Yards. The British employed 1477.7 tons of high
explosive bombs and 1181.6 tons of incendiary bombs--all aimed against the
Dresden city area.42 The American aircraft used H2X (radar) bombing
method, with visual assists, and the British used the marker and visual
method.43
I wonder what the USAAF thought would be in the marshalling yards
that *their incendiaries would burn. Can you tell me??
Look at this table and tell me that the noble ameriKKKans did nothing
serious at Dresden
Allied Aerial Bombardments of the Seven Largest German Cities99
Chart A
City
Population in 1939
American Tonnage British Tonnage
Total Tonnage
Berlin
4,339,000
22,090.3
45,517
67,607.3
Hamburg
1,129,000
17,104.6
22,583
39,687.6
Munich
841,000
11,471.4
7,858
27,110.9
Cologne
772,000
10,211.2
34,712
44,923.2
Leipzig
707,000
5,410.4
6,206
11,616.4
Essen
667,000
1,518.0
36,420
37,938.0
Dresden
642,000
**4,441.2**
2,659.3
7,100.5
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/timeline/factfiles/nonflash/a1138385.shtml?sectionId=7&articleId=1138385
Fact File : Dresden Raid
13 to 15 February 1945
Theatre: Western Europe
Location: Dresden, eastern Germany
Players: Allies: Air Chief Marshal Sir Arthur Harris's RAF Bomber Command;
General James Doolittle's 8th US Army Air Force (USAAF).
Outcome: The devastation of the German city of Dresden.
There were five bombing raids on Dresden in 1945. The 8th USAAF bombed
Dresden on 16 January and 2 March, as well as carrying out raids
co-ordinated with Bomber Command on 14 and 15 February. Targeting
Dresden's marshalling yards, the US raids also caused damage in the city.
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II_-_The_attacks/id/618605
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks: Encyclopedia II -
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks
The railway yards, near the centre of Dresden, had been targeted and
bombed twice before the night of February 13 by the USAAF Eighth Air Force
in daytime raids: on October 7, 1944 with 70 tons of high-explosive bombs,
and then again with 133 bombers on January 16, 1945 during which 279 tons
of high-explosives and 41 tons of incendiaries were dropped.[12] The
firebombing campaign should have begun with an USAAF Eighth Air Force raid
on Dres ...
Post by gene
Post by Robert Sveinson
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945, 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945.
Can you count the difference??
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-25 02:56:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by gene
You're blind hatred of the USA is also clouding if not completely blinding
you to the facts in your own cite you cretin...it states catergorically
that the USAAF targetted the marshalling yards.
Well just now I aimed to slap you on the back of your
hollow head! Did it hurt? No! But I did target your hollow head!
Post by gene
You further prove your stupidity by asking what the Americans thought
required the use of incendiaries in the marshalling yards...if you can't
figure that out you really are too stupid to be takeing up space on this
planet.
Do enlighten me! Don't feel that you have to strain
yourself looking for poly-syllables to explain it,
but do tell me that ameriKKKan incendiaries
burn the steel rails. You know steel rails
the important part of any rail system.
Post by gene
The more you post on here Sveinson, the more you only end up advertiseing
your ignorance. Keep up the good work.
POT.....KETTLE!


Read and learn!
Post by gene
http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/dresden.htm
. In as much as it is exclusively the 14-15 February 1945 bombings of
Dresden that have repeatedly been the subject of inquiry and controversy
and the basis of Communist propaganda, the subsequent historical analysis
and the attached supporting documents are primarily concerned with and
relevant to the February bombings only. Nevertheless, as a matter of
record, the following is an authoritative tabulation of all Allied
bombings of Dresden: 1
NOTE!! Below, the tonnage of incendiaries dropped
by the USAAF that you knew nothing about.
Date
Target Area
Force
Acft
High Explosive bombs on target (tons)
Incediary bombs on target (tons)
Total
7/10/44
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
30 a/c
72.5 HE
72.5 Total
16/1/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
133 a/c
279.8 HE
**41.6** Incend
Post by gene
321.4 Total
14/2/45
City Area
RAF BC
772 a/c
1477.7 HE
1181.6 Incend
2659.3 Total
14/2/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
316 a/c
487.7 HE
**294.3** Incend
782.0 Total
15/2/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
211 a/c
465.6 HE
465.6 Total
2/3/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
406 a/c
940.3 HE
**140.5** Incend
1080.8 Total
17/4/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
572 a/c
1526.4 HE
**164.5** Incend
1690.9 Total
17/4/45
Industrial Area
8th AF
8 a/c
28.0 HE
28.0 Total
23. In the Dresden bombing attacks of 14-15 February 1945 the American
Eighth Air Force and the RAF Bomber Command together employed a total of
1299 bomber aircraft (527 from the Eighth Air Force, 722 from the RAF
Bomber Command) for a total weight, on targets, of 3906.9 tons. Of this
tonnage, 1247.6 tons were expanded by the Eighth Air Force, 2659.3 tons by
the RAF Bomber Command. The Americans employed 953.3 tons of high
explosive bombs and** 294.3 tons of incendiary bombs**--all aimed at the
Dresden Marshalling Yards. The British employed 1477.7 tons of high
explosive bombs and 1181.6 tons of incendiary bombs--all aimed against the
Dresden city area.42 The American aircraft used H2X (radar) bombing
method, with visual assists, and the British used the marker and visual
method.43
I wonder what the USAAF thought would be in the marshalling yards
that *their incendiaries would burn. Can you tell me??
Look at this table and tell me that the noble ameriKKKans did nothing
serious at Dresden
Allied Aerial Bombardments of the Seven Largest German Cities99
Chart A
City
Population in 1939
American Tonnage British Tonnage
Total Tonnage
Berlin
Pop. 4,339,000
US 22,090.3
Br 45,517
Tot 67,607.3
Hamburg
Pop 1,129,000
US 17,104.6
Br 22,583
Tot 39,687.6
Munich
Pop 841,000
US 11,471.4
Br 7,858
Tot 27,110.9
Cologne
Pop 772,000
US 10,211.2
Br 34,712
Tot 44,923.2
Leipzig
Pop 707,000
US 5,410.4
Br 6,206
Tot 11,616.4
Essen
Pop 667,000
US 1,518.0
Br 36,420
Tot 37,938.0
Dresden
Pop 642,000
US **4,441.2**
Br 2,659.3
Tot 7,100.5
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/timeline/factfiles/nonflash/a1138385.shtml?sectionId=7&articleId=1138385
Fact File : Dresden Raid
13 to 15 February 1945
Theatre: Western Europe
Location: Dresden, eastern Germany
Players: Allies: Air Chief Marshal Sir Arthur Harris's RAF Bomber Command;
General James Doolittle's 8th US Army Air Force (USAAF).
Outcome: The devastation of the German city of Dresden.
There were five bombing raids on Dresden in 1945. The 8th USAAF bombed
Dresden on 16 January and 2 March, as well as carrying out raids
co-ordinated with Bomber Command on 14 and 15 February. Targeting
Dresden's marshalling yards, the US raids also caused damage in the city.
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II_-_The_attacks/id/618605
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks: Encyclopedia II -
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks
The railway yards, near the centre of Dresden, had been targeted and
bombed twice before the night of February 13 by the USAAF Eighth Air Force
in daytime raids: on October 7, 1944 with 70 tons of high-explosive bombs,
and then again with 133 bombers on January 16, 1945 during which 279 tons
of high-explosives and 41 tons of incendiaries were dropped.[12] The
firebombing campaign should have begun with an USAAF Eighth Air Force raid
on Dres ...
Post by Robert Sveinson
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945.
Can you count the difference??
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-25 03:25:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert Sveinson
Do enlighten me! Don't feel that you have to strain
yourself looking for poly-syllables to explain it,
but do tell me that ameriKKKan incendiaries
burn the steel rails. You know steel rails
the important part of any rail system.
The easiest part to repair. You just don't know much about this shit. Might
want to widen the scope of your reading before making yourself look even
more stupid than you already have.
gene
2008-04-25 04:54:36 UTC
Permalink
Well I really don't want to waste my time trying to educate you Sveinson
because you've proven over and over that your a total moron...but I've got a
spare minute so please try and follow if it's not to hard for your tiny
brain..

Railroad marshalling yards are full of flammables( thats things that can
burn), especially dureing wartime...such as lots of wooden freight cars, gas
and diesel fueltankers,wooden loco and freight sheds, piles of loco coal,
lumber and all that lovely ammunition for the German army and airforce...it
all tends to burn really well....not to mention the actual wooden ties that
the rails are attached to....set that lot on fire and you have not only
destroyed weapons and supplies that the German army needs, you've also
destroyed large numbers of rail equipment, locos and freight cars, trackage,
thereby interferring with the Germans ability to fight or transport men or
equipment. Its all about fucking with your enemies logistics and supply
lines to impair their warfighting ability.
Of course anybody with a modicum of intelligence would have been able to
figure that out by themselves, but you Sveinson have continued to show your
total lack of intelligence, yet again.
Post by Robert Sveinson
Do enlighten me! Don't feel that you have to strain
yourself looking for poly-syllables to explain it,
but do tell me that ameriKKKan incendiaries
burn the steel rails. You know steel rails
the important part of any rail system.
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-25 03:21:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
The "FIREBOMBING OF DRESDEN"....which is what was being discussed you moron,
was done by over 700 aircraft of BRITISH BOMBER COMMAND dropping 1400
tons of HE bombs and 1100 tons of incendiarys on the CITY CENTRE
early on the 14rh of February 1945...by the time the USAAF got there,
later on the 14th,
the city was already an inferno...the USAAF dropped 780 tons on the
rail yards on the 14th AFTER the Brits had alredy fried the city
centre...the USAAF attacked the rail yards again on the 15th,
dropping 460 tons of HE bombs...no incendiarys.
Sooo! It took 5 trys to bomb thr rail yards did it?
No pickle barrels down there to aim at so it
was just spread around?
I know how difficult it will be for you
to read the following, as it's not in "comic book"
format. Maybe some one could read it to you.
Post by gene
The Brits are the ones who fried the city....all the raids by the USAAF that
you listed targeted the RAIL YARDS...away from the city centre.
http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/dresden.htm
. In as much as it is exclusively the 14-15 February 1945 bombings of
Dresden that have repeatedly been the subject of inquiry and
controversy and the basis of Communist propaganda, the subsequent
historical analysis and the attached supporting documents are
primarily concerned with and relevant to the February bombings only.
Nevertheless, as a matter of record, the following is an authoritative
tabulation of all Allied bombings of Dresden: 1
NOTE!! Below, the tonnage of incendiaries dropped
by the USAAF that you knew nothing about.
Date
Target Area
Force
Acft
High Explosive bombs on target (tons)
Incediary bombs on target (tons)
Total
7/10/44
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
30
72.5
72.5
16/1/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
133
279.8 **41.6**
321.4
14/2/45
City Area
RAF BC
772
1477.7
1181.6
2659.3
14/2/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
316
487.7
**294.3**
782.0
15/2/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
211
465.6
465.6
2/3/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
406
940.3
**140.5**
1080.8
17/4/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
572
1526.4
**164.5**
1690.9
17/4/45
Industrial Area
8th AF
8
28.0
28.0
23. In the Dresden bombing attacks of 14-15 February 1945 the American
Eighth Air Force and the RAF Bomber Command together employed a total
of 1299 bomber aircraft (527 from the Eighth Air Force, 722 from the
RAF Bomber Command) for a total weight, on targets, of 3906.9 tons. Of
this tonnage, 1247.6 tons were expanded by the Eighth Air Force,
2659.3 tons by the RAF Bomber Command. The Americans employed 953.3
tons of high explosive bombs and** 294.3 tons of incendiary
bombs**--all aimed at the Dresden Marshalling Yards. The British
employed 1477.7 tons of high explosive bombs and 1181.6 tons of
incendiary bombs--all aimed against the Dresden city area.42 The
American aircraft used H2X (radar) bombing method, with visual
assists, and the British used the marker and visual method.43
I wonder what the USAAF thought would be in the marshalling yards
that *their incendiaries would burn. Can you tell me??
Look at this table and tell me that the noble ameriKKKans did nothing
serious at Dresden
Allied Aerial Bombardments of the Seven Largest German Cities99
Chart A
City
Population in 1939
American Tonnage British Tonnage
Total Tonnage
Berlin
4,339,000
22,090.3
45,517
67,607.3
Hamburg
1,129,000
17,104.6
22,583
39,687.6
Munich
841,000
11,471.4
7,858
27,110.9
Cologne
772,000
10,211.2
34,712
44,923.2
Leipzig
707,000
5,410.4
6,206
11,616.4
Essen
667,000
1,518.0
36,420
37,938.0
Dresden
642,000
**4,441.2**
2,659.3
7,100.5
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/timeline/factfiles/nonflash/a1138385
.shtml?sectionId=7&articleId=1138385
Fact File : Dresden Raid
13 to 15 February 1945
Theatre: Western Europe
Location: Dresden, eastern Germany
Players: Allies: Air Chief Marshal Sir Arthur Harris's RAF Bomber
Command; General James Doolittle's 8th US Army Air Force (USAAF).
Outcome: The devastation of the German city of Dresden.
There were five bombing raids on Dresden in 1945. The 8th USAAF bombed
Dresden on 16 January and 2 March, as well as carrying out raids
co-ordinated with Bomber Command on 14 and 15 February. Targeting
Dresden's marshalling yards, the US raids also caused damage in the
city.
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II_
-_The_attacks/id/618605
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks: Encyclopedia II -
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks
The railway yards, near the centre of Dresden, had been targeted and
bombed twice before the night of February 13 by the USAAF Eighth Air
Force in daytime raids: on October 7, 1944 with 70 tons of
high-explosive bombs, and then again with 133 bombers on January 16,
1945 during which 279 tons of high-explosives and 41 tons of
incendiaries were dropped.[12] The firebombing campaign should have
begun with an USAAF Eighth Air Force raid on Dres ...
Post by gene
Post by Robert Sveinson
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945, 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945.
Can you count the difference??
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Looks like the Brits dropped more incendiaries than all the US raids put
togther.
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-25 04:08:38 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:21:17 GMT, Lobby Dosser
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
The "FIREBOMBING OF DRESDEN"....which is what was being discussed you moron,
was done by over 700 aircraft of BRITISH BOMBER COMMAND dropping 1400
tons of HE bombs and 1100 tons of incendiarys on the CITY CENTRE
early on the 14rh of February 1945...by the time the USAAF got there,
later on the 14th,
the city was already an inferno...the USAAF dropped 780 tons on the
rail yards on the 14th AFTER the Brits had alredy fried the city
centre...the USAAF attacked the rail yards again on the 15th,
dropping 460 tons of HE bombs...no incendiarys.
Sooo! It took 5 trys to bomb thr rail yards did it?
No pickle barrels down there to aim at so it
was just spread around?
I know how difficult it will be for you
to read the following, as it's not in "comic book"
format. Maybe some one could read it to you.
Post by gene
The Brits are the ones who fried the city....all the raids by the USAAF that
you listed targeted the RAIL YARDS...away from the city centre.
http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/dresden.htm
. In as much as it is exclusively the 14-15 February 1945 bombings of
Dresden that have repeatedly been the subject of inquiry and
controversy and the basis of Communist propaganda, the subsequent
historical analysis and the attached supporting documents are
primarily concerned with and relevant to the February bombings only.
Nevertheless, as a matter of record, the following is an authoritative
tabulation of all Allied bombings of Dresden: 1
NOTE!! Below, the tonnage of incendiaries dropped
by the USAAF that you knew nothing about.
Date
Target Area
Force
Acft
High Explosive bombs on target (tons)
Incediary bombs on target (tons)
Total
7/10/44
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
30
72.5
72.5
16/1/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
133
279.8 **41.6**
321.4
14/2/45
City Area
RAF BC
772
1477.7
1181.6
2659.3
14/2/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
316
487.7
**294.3**
782.0
15/2/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
211
465.6
465.6
2/3/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
406
940.3
**140.5**
1080.8
17/4/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
572
1526.4
**164.5**
1690.9
17/4/45
Industrial Area
8th AF
8
28.0
28.0
23. In the Dresden bombing attacks of 14-15 February 1945 the American
Eighth Air Force and the RAF Bomber Command together employed a total
of 1299 bomber aircraft (527 from the Eighth Air Force, 722 from the
RAF Bomber Command) for a total weight, on targets, of 3906.9 tons. Of
this tonnage, 1247.6 tons were expanded by the Eighth Air Force,
2659.3 tons by the RAF Bomber Command. The Americans employed 953.3
tons of high explosive bombs and** 294.3 tons of incendiary
bombs**--all aimed at the Dresden Marshalling Yards. The British
employed 1477.7 tons of high explosive bombs and 1181.6 tons of
incendiary bombs--all aimed against the Dresden city area.42 The
American aircraft used H2X (radar) bombing method, with visual
assists, and the British used the marker and visual method.43
I wonder what the USAAF thought would be in the marshalling yards
that *their incendiaries would burn. Can you tell me??
Look at this table and tell me that the noble ameriKKKans did nothing
serious at Dresden
Allied Aerial Bombardments of the Seven Largest German Cities99
Chart A
City
Population in 1939
American Tonnage British Tonnage
Total Tonnage
Berlin
4,339,000
22,090.3
45,517
67,607.3
Hamburg
1,129,000
17,104.6
22,583
39,687.6
Munich
841,000
11,471.4
7,858
27,110.9
Cologne
772,000
10,211.2
34,712
44,923.2
Leipzig
707,000
5,410.4
6,206
11,616.4
Essen
667,000
1,518.0
36,420
37,938.0
Dresden
642,000
**4,441.2**
2,659.3
7,100.5
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/timeline/factfiles/nonflash/a1138385
.shtml?sectionId=7&articleId=1138385
Fact File : Dresden Raid
13 to 15 February 1945
Theatre: Western Europe
Location: Dresden, eastern Germany
Players: Allies: Air Chief Marshal Sir Arthur Harris's RAF Bomber
Command; General James Doolittle's 8th US Army Air Force (USAAF).
Outcome: The devastation of the German city of Dresden.
There were five bombing raids on Dresden in 1945. The 8th USAAF bombed
Dresden on 16 January and 2 March, as well as carrying out raids
co-ordinated with Bomber Command on 14 and 15 February. Targeting
Dresden's marshalling yards, the US raids also caused damage in the
city.
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II_
-_The_attacks/id/618605
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks: Encyclopedia II -
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks
The railway yards, near the centre of Dresden, had been targeted and
bombed twice before the night of February 13 by the USAAF Eighth Air
Force in daytime raids: on October 7, 1944 with 70 tons of
high-explosive bombs, and then again with 133 bombers on January 16,
1945 during which 279 tons of high-explosives and 41 tons of
incendiaries were dropped.[12] The firebombing campaign should have
begun with an USAAF Eighth Air Force raid on Dres ...
Post by gene
Post by Robert Sveinson
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945, 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945.
Can you count the difference??
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Looks like the Brits dropped more incendiaries than all the US raids put
togther.
Well done, lads!
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-25 04:22:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Karl Kolchak
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:21:17 GMT, Lobby Dosser
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
The "FIREBOMBING OF DRESDEN"....which is what was being discussed you moron,
was done by over 700 aircraft of BRITISH BOMBER COMMAND dropping
1400 tons of HE bombs and 1100 tons of incendiarys on the CITY
CENTRE early on the 14rh of February 1945...by the time the USAAF
got there, later on the 14th,
the city was already an inferno...the USAAF dropped 780 tons on the
rail yards on the 14th AFTER the Brits had alredy fried the city
centre...the USAAF attacked the rail yards again on the 15th,
dropping 460 tons of HE bombs...no incendiarys.
Sooo! It took 5 trys to bomb thr rail yards did it?
No pickle barrels down there to aim at so it
was just spread around?
I know how difficult it will be for you
to read the following, as it's not in "comic book"
format. Maybe some one could read it to you.
Post by gene
The Brits are the ones who fried the city....all the raids by the USAAF that
you listed targeted the RAIL YARDS...away from the city centre.
http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/dresden.htm
. In as much as it is exclusively the 14-15 February 1945 bombings
of Dresden that have repeatedly been the subject of inquiry and
controversy and the basis of Communist propaganda, the subsequent
historical analysis and the attached supporting documents are
primarily concerned with and relevant to the February bombings only.
Nevertheless, as a matter of record, the following is an
authoritative tabulation of all Allied bombings of Dresden: 1
NOTE!! Below, the tonnage of incendiaries dropped
by the USAAF that you knew nothing about.
Date
Target Area
Force
Acft
High Explosive bombs on target (tons)
Incediary bombs on target (tons)
Total
7/10/44
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
30
72.5
72.5
16/1/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
133
279.8 **41.6**
321.4
14/2/45
City Area
RAF BC
772
1477.7
1181.6
2659.3
14/2/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
316
487.7
**294.3**
782.0
15/2/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
211
465.6
465.6
2/3/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
406
940.3
**140.5**
1080.8
17/4/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
572
1526.4
**164.5**
1690.9
17/4/45
Industrial Area
8th AF
8
28.0
28.0
23. In the Dresden bombing attacks of 14-15 February 1945 the
American Eighth Air Force and the RAF Bomber Command together
employed a total of 1299 bomber aircraft (527 from the Eighth Air
Force, 722 from the RAF Bomber Command) for a total weight, on
targets, of 3906.9 tons. Of this tonnage, 1247.6 tons were expanded
by the Eighth Air Force, 2659.3 tons by the RAF Bomber Command. The
Americans employed 953.3 tons of high explosive bombs and** 294.3
tons of incendiary bombs**--all aimed at the Dresden Marshalling
Yards. The British employed 1477.7 tons of high explosive bombs and
1181.6 tons of incendiary bombs--all aimed against the Dresden city
area.42 The American aircraft used H2X (radar) bombing method, with
visual assists, and the British used the marker and visual method.43
I wonder what the USAAF thought would be in the marshalling yards
that *their incendiaries would burn. Can you tell me??
Look at this table and tell me that the noble ameriKKKans did
nothing serious at Dresden
Allied Aerial Bombardments of the Seven Largest German Cities99
Chart A
City
Population in 1939
American Tonnage British Tonnage
Total Tonnage
Berlin
4,339,000
22,090.3
45,517
67,607.3
Hamburg
1,129,000
17,104.6
22,583
39,687.6
Munich
841,000
11,471.4
7,858
27,110.9
Cologne
772,000
10,211.2
34,712
44,923.2
Leipzig
707,000
5,410.4
6,206
11,616.4
Essen
667,000
1,518.0
36,420
37,938.0
Dresden
642,000
**4,441.2**
2,659.3
7,100.5
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/timeline/factfiles/nonflash/a11383
85 .shtml?sectionId=7&articleId=1138385
Fact File : Dresden Raid
13 to 15 February 1945
Theatre: Western Europe
Location: Dresden, eastern Germany
Players: Allies: Air Chief Marshal Sir Arthur Harris's RAF Bomber
Command; General James Doolittle's 8th US Army Air Force (USAAF).
Outcome: The devastation of the German city of Dresden.
There were five bombing raids on Dresden in 1945. The 8th USAAF
bombed Dresden on 16 January and 2 March, as well as carrying out
raids co-ordinated with Bomber Command on 14 and 15 February.
Targeting Dresden's marshalling yards, the US raids also caused
damage in the city.
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_I
I_ -_The_attacks/id/618605
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks: Encyclopedia II -
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks
The railway yards, near the centre of Dresden, had been targeted and
bombed twice before the night of February 13 by the USAAF Eighth Air
Force in daytime raids: on October 7, 1944 with 70 tons of
high-explosive bombs, and then again with 133 bombers on January 16,
1945 during which 279 tons of high-explosives and 41 tons of
incendiaries were dropped.[12] The firebombing campaign should have
begun with an USAAF Eighth Air Force raid on Dres ...
Post by gene
Post by Robert Sveinson
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945, 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945.
Can you count the difference??
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Looks like the Brits dropped more incendiaries than all the US raids
put togther.
Well done, lads!
There'll be bluebirds over
The white cliffs of Dover ...
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-25 04:34:42 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:22:23 GMT, Lobby Dosser
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Karl Kolchak
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:21:17 GMT, Lobby Dosser
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
The "FIREBOMBING OF DRESDEN"....which is what was being discussed you moron,
was done by over 700 aircraft of BRITISH BOMBER COMMAND dropping
1400 tons of HE bombs and 1100 tons of incendiarys on the CITY
CENTRE early on the 14rh of February 1945...by the time the USAAF
got there, later on the 14th,
the city was already an inferno...the USAAF dropped 780 tons on the
rail yards on the 14th AFTER the Brits had alredy fried the city
centre...the USAAF attacked the rail yards again on the 15th,
dropping 460 tons of HE bombs...no incendiarys.
Sooo! It took 5 trys to bomb thr rail yards did it?
No pickle barrels down there to aim at so it
was just spread around?
I know how difficult it will be for you
to read the following, as it's not in "comic book"
format. Maybe some one could read it to you.
Post by gene
The Brits are the ones who fried the city....all the raids by the USAAF that
you listed targeted the RAIL YARDS...away from the city centre.
http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/dresden.htm
. In as much as it is exclusively the 14-15 February 1945 bombings
of Dresden that have repeatedly been the subject of inquiry and
controversy and the basis of Communist propaganda, the subsequent
historical analysis and the attached supporting documents are
primarily concerned with and relevant to the February bombings only.
Nevertheless, as a matter of record, the following is an
authoritative tabulation of all Allied bombings of Dresden: 1
NOTE!! Below, the tonnage of incendiaries dropped
by the USAAF that you knew nothing about.
Date
Target Area
Force
Acft
High Explosive bombs on target (tons)
Incediary bombs on target (tons)
Total
7/10/44
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
30
72.5
72.5
16/1/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
133
279.8 **41.6**
321.4
14/2/45
City Area
RAF BC
772
1477.7
1181.6
2659.3
14/2/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
316
487.7
**294.3**
782.0
15/2/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
211
465.6
465.6
2/3/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
406
940.3
**140.5**
1080.8
17/4/45
Marshalling Yards
8th AF
572
1526.4
**164.5**
1690.9
17/4/45
Industrial Area
8th AF
8
28.0
28.0
23. In the Dresden bombing attacks of 14-15 February 1945 the
American Eighth Air Force and the RAF Bomber Command together
employed a total of 1299 bomber aircraft (527 from the Eighth Air
Force, 722 from the RAF Bomber Command) for a total weight, on
targets, of 3906.9 tons. Of this tonnage, 1247.6 tons were expanded
by the Eighth Air Force, 2659.3 tons by the RAF Bomber Command. The
Americans employed 953.3 tons of high explosive bombs and** 294.3
tons of incendiary bombs**--all aimed at the Dresden Marshalling
Yards. The British employed 1477.7 tons of high explosive bombs and
1181.6 tons of incendiary bombs--all aimed against the Dresden city
area.42 The American aircraft used H2X (radar) bombing method, with
visual assists, and the British used the marker and visual method.43
I wonder what the USAAF thought would be in the marshalling yards
that *their incendiaries would burn. Can you tell me??
Look at this table and tell me that the noble ameriKKKans did
nothing serious at Dresden
Allied Aerial Bombardments of the Seven Largest German Cities99
Chart A
City
Population in 1939
American Tonnage British Tonnage
Total Tonnage
Berlin
4,339,000
22,090.3
45,517
67,607.3
Hamburg
1,129,000
17,104.6
22,583
39,687.6
Munich
841,000
11,471.4
7,858
27,110.9
Cologne
772,000
10,211.2
34,712
44,923.2
Leipzig
707,000
5,410.4
6,206
11,616.4
Essen
667,000
1,518.0
36,420
37,938.0
Dresden
642,000
**4,441.2**
2,659.3
7,100.5
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/timeline/factfiles/nonflash/a11383
85 .shtml?sectionId=7&articleId=1138385
Fact File : Dresden Raid
13 to 15 February 1945
Theatre: Western Europe
Location: Dresden, eastern Germany
Players: Allies: Air Chief Marshal Sir Arthur Harris's RAF Bomber
Command; General James Doolittle's 8th US Army Air Force (USAAF).
Outcome: The devastation of the German city of Dresden.
There were five bombing raids on Dresden in 1945. The 8th USAAF
bombed Dresden on 16 January and 2 March, as well as carrying out
raids co-ordinated with Bomber Command on 14 and 15 February.
Targeting Dresden's marshalling yards, the US raids also caused
damage in the city.
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_I
I_ -_The_attacks/id/618605
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks: Encyclopedia II -
Bombing of Dresden in World War II - The attacks
The railway yards, near the centre of Dresden, had been targeted and
bombed twice before the night of February 13 by the USAAF Eighth Air
Force in daytime raids: on October 7, 1944 with 70 tons of
high-explosive bombs, and then again with 133 bombers on January 16,
1945 during which 279 tons of high-explosives and 41 tons of
incendiaries were dropped.[12] The firebombing campaign should have
begun with an USAAF Eighth Air Force raid on Dres ...
Post by gene
Post by Robert Sveinson
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945, 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945.
Can you count the difference??
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end
Looks like the Brits dropped more incendiaries than all the US raids
put togther.
Well done, lads!
There'll be bluebirds over
The white cliffs of Dover ...
I'm looking over a four leaf clover....
tankfixer
2008-04-24 02:42:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
You dumb fu*k...it was the Brits
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
Was that the first bombing mission ?
I doubt it
And BTW, why would they bomb it in October of 1945 ???
Post by Robert Sveinson
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945, 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945.
Can you count the difference??
--
"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-24 02:46:37 UTC
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Post by tankfixer
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
You dumb fu*k...it was the Brits
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
Was that the first bombing mission ?
I doubt it
And BTW, why would they bomb it in October of 1945 ???
Milo Minderbinder had a contract to fulfill.
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-24 03:43:12 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
You dumb fu*k...it was the Brits
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
Corrected text:

The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-24 03:52:19 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
You dumb fu*k...it was the Brits
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945.
The RAF FIRE BOMBED Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
Post by Robert Sveinson
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-24 05:18:53 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:52:19 GMT, Lobby Dosser
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
You dumb fu*k...it was the Brits
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945.
The RAF FIRE BOMBED Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!
Bill Shatzer
2008-04-24 03:34:40 UTC
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Post by tankfixer
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gene
You dumb fu*k...it was the Brits
Well done parrot! You obviuosly have NOT read any
history of the bombing of Dresden. I guess you get
your history lessons from ameriKKKan comic books.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
Was that the first bombing mission ?
I doubt it
It was - October 7, 1944, although it was a relatively small raid - some
30 aircraft.

The USAAF returned in more substantial numbers on January 16, 1945 -
some 133 bombers.
Post by tankfixer
And BTW, why would they bomb it in October of 1945 ???
Milo Minderbinder had the contract?


Peace and justice,
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-24 05:17:32 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:34:40 -0700, Bill Shatzer
Post by Bill Shatzer
Peace and justice,
911 TRAITOR:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"And over 4,000 Americans have paid with their lives for that little
adventure. Plus a half a trillion dollars in national treasure

You might compare that with the number of lives lost on 9-11. Or the
economic injury incurred from that event.

It would have been cheaper in both lives and money to just suffer
another 9-11 every six or seven years.



Peace and justice,"

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
gatt
2008-04-24 15:21:30 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945, 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945.
Can you count the difference??
They should bomb Dresden again just to remind you Nazi-wannabes what
happens if you don't mind your manners.


-c
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-24 16:52:55 UTC
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Post by gatt
Post by Robert Sveinson
The USAAF bombed Dresden on7 October, 1944, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on 16 January 1945, 1945.
The RAF bombed Dresden on the night of February13/14, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 14, 1945.
And strafed civilians fleeing the city.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on February 15, 1945.
The USAAF bombed Dresden on March 2, 1945.
Can you count the difference??
They should bomb Dresden again just to remind you Nazi-wannabes what
happens if you don't mind your manners.
-c
Mbwhahahahaa!!!
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-25 03:48:29 UTC
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Post by gene
You dumb fu*k...it was the Brits
Post by Robert Sveinson
The ameriKKKans should not have bombed Dresden!!
Hey Gomer....................
Strafing civilians

Just a few hours before Dresden had been a fairy-tale city of spires and
cobbled streets .... now total war had put an end to all that. ...The
ferocity of the US raid of 14th February had finally brought the people to
their knees... but it was not the bombs which finally demoralised the people
...


it was the Mustang fighters, which suddenly appeared low over the city,
firing on everything that moved .... one section of the Mustangs
concentrated on the river banks, where masses of bombed-out people had
gathered. ... British prisoners who had been released from their burning
camps were among the first to suffer the discomfort of machine-gunning
attacks .... wherever columns of tramping people were marching in or out of
the city they were pounced on by the fighters, and machine-gunned or raked
with cannon fire." [Image: Dresden skyline after Allied saturation bombing.]
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-25 04:22:29 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:48:29 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Hey Gomer....................
Strafing civilians
Yessir Sgt. Carter!
gatt
2008-04-24 15:17:54 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by gatt
Q: How many Dresden citizens can you put in a Volkswagen?
A: 40,000 if you have a shovel.
The ameriKKKans should not have bombed Dresden!!
Dresden was an RAF project, too.

You ever hear of a place called London? Dresden didn't seem to fuss much
about bombing London during the blitz.

-c
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-23 01:34:33 UTC
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A new book???

How about an "old book"?

Other Losses by James Bacque

Published 1991!

1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-23 02:56:22 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
A new book???
How about an "old book"?
Other Losses by James Bacque
Published 1991!
1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
Something like 99.99% of them in the USSR.
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-23 03:18:52 UTC
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Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
A new book???
How about an "old book"?
Other Losses by James Bacque
Published 1991!
1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
Something like 99.99% of them in the USSR.
No!
100% of them in Europe.
You know the part occupied
by the ameriKKKans!
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-23 03:20:29 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
A new book???
How about an "old book"?
Other Losses by James Bacque
Published 1991!
1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
Something like 99.99% of them in the USSR.
No!
100% of them in Europe.
You know the part occupied
by the ameriKKKans!
cite
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-23 04:11:59 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
A new book???
How about an "old book"?
Other Losses by James Bacque
Published 1991!
1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
Something like 99.99% of them in the USSR.
No!
100% of them in Europe.
You know the part occupied
by the ameriKKKans!
cite
Do you have trouble reading the title of the book above????

Jesus W Christ! Open your eyes!
Look up!
Way up!
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-24 01:49:59 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
A new book???
How about an "old book"?
Other Losses by James Bacque
Published 1991!
1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
Something like 99.99% of them in the USSR.
No!
100% of them in Europe.
You know the part occupied
by the ameriKKKans!
cite
Do you have trouble reading the title of the book
above????
Jesus W Christ! Open your eyes!
Look up!
Way up!
That's ALL you've got, some ranter?
gatt
2008-04-24 15:30:33 UTC
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!
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
Something like 99.99% of them in the USSR.
No!
100% of them in Europe.
by the ameriKKKans!
cite
Do you have trouble reading the title of the book above????
Oh, no. Look out, Lobby. He read a book!


-c
gatt
2008-04-24 15:26:35 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Lobby Dosser
Something like 99.99% of them in the USSR.
No!
100% of them in Europe.
You know the part occupied
by the ameriKKKans!
Somebody should have been court martialled for letting the last .01% live.


-c
tankfixer
2008-04-24 02:29:14 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
A new book???
How about an "old book"?
Other Losses by James Bacque
Published 1991!
1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
A discredited book...
--
"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-24 03:38:48 UTC
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Post by tankfixer
Post by Robert Sveinson
A new book???
How about an "old book"?
Other Losses by James Bacque
Published 1991!
1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
A discredited book...
Discredited by............................
Any body that can verify their veracity!
Post by tankfixer
--
"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-24 03:53:26 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
Post by Robert Sveinson
A new book???
How about an "old book"?
Other Losses by James Bacque
Published 1991!
1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
A discredited book...
Discredited by............................
Any body that can verify their veracity!
Quite right, Anybody and Everybody.
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-25 03:10:49 UTC
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Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
Post by Robert Sveinson
A new book???
How about an "old book"?
Other Losses by James Bacque
Published 1991!
1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
A discredited book...
Discredited by............................
Any body that can verify their veracity!
Quite right, Anybody and Everybody.
Well James Bacque does quote some notable liars.
Recognise any names?

D. D. Eisenhower
Gen Bedell Smith
John Morton Blum
Presidential Diaries Morganthau Papers
Henry L Stimson
Cordell Hull
Robert E Sherwood
Allied High Command Papers
David Eisenhower
George Patton
**Stephan Ambrose**
Capt. Harry Butcher
Lucius D Clay
need more??
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-25 03:46:51 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
Post by Robert Sveinson
A new book???
How about an "old book"?
Other Losses by James Bacque
Published 1991!
1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
A discredited book...
Discredited by............................
Any body that can verify their veracity!
Quite right, Anybody and Everybody.
Well James Bacque does quote some notable liars.
Recognise any names?
D. D. Eisenhower
Gen Bedell Smith
John Morton Blum
Presidential Diaries Morganthau Papers
Henry L Stimson
Cordell Hull
Robert E Sherwood
Allied High Command Papers
David Eisenhower
George Patton
**Stephan Ambrose**
Capt. Harry Butcher
Lucius D Clay
need more??
Why would I want more names of people you consider liars?
B.H. Cramer
2008-04-24 05:09:03 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
Post by Robert Sveinson
A new book???
How about an "old book"?
Other Losses by James Bacque
Published 1991!
1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
A discredited book...
Discredited by............................
The Holocaust(tm) industry.
Post by Robert Sveinson
Any body that can verify their veracity!
No.
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
--
"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
gatt
2008-04-24 15:39:57 UTC
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Post by B.H. Cramer
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
A discredited book...
Discredited by............................
The Holocaust(tm) industry.
Your daddy lost the war.

Deal with it.




-c
B.H. Cramer
2008-04-24 05:10:18 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
Post by Robert Sveinson
A new book???
How about an "old book"?
Other Losses by James Bacque
Published 1991!
1,000,000 German POWs die after April 1945.
A discredited book...
Discredited by............................
The Holocaust(tm) industry.
Post by Robert Sveinson
Any body that can verify their veracity!
No.
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
--
"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
Logan 5
2008-04-23 01:21:39 UTC
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Post by Anarchore
If you're thick enough to believe that Jews are your enemy why the
fuck would I want to have anything to do with you.
Consider me a Jew.
Consider me a fag.
Consider me an immigrant.
Dang, next you'll be an Obamatron...
Logan 5
2008-04-22 16:47:41 UTC
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:54:55 +1000, "B. Cramer"
Post by B. Cramer
I see you believe the yid's
Why hasn't someone killed you yet?
tankfixer
2008-04-24 02:42:20 UTC
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Post by Logan 5
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:54:55 +1000, "B. Cramer"
Post by B. Cramer
I see you believe the yid's
Why hasn't someone killed you yet?
He stays indoors and hands his money out to the pizza guy through a
crack in the door.....
--
"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
unknown
2008-04-21 23:48:09 UTC
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Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
New Book, perhaps.

Old News, definitively.

Some folks wanted their Vengeance.

And went out of their way to get it.
Floyd
2008-04-22 00:23:01 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
New Book, perhaps.
Old News, definitively.
Some folks wanted their Vengeance.
And went out of their way to get it.
What do you expect? Look at the graves of the war dead from both sides from
WW2. Lots of crucifixes on the grave markers and precious little else.

Christians are brutal even to their own.
unknown
2008-04-22 00:34:26 UTC
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Post by Floyd
Post by unknown
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
New Book, perhaps.
Old News, definitively.
Some folks wanted their Vengeance.
And went out of their way to get it.
What do you expect?
Precisely what happened. Nothing else, in fact.

We have documented incidents of Murken Soljers machine-gunning German
POWs as well. Same thing precisely. I'm not going to waste a lot of
time feeling sorry for the Krauts, certainly. It's too bad the Allied
authorities supposedly in charge didn't take care of these things
better, but then the higher command levels also had some
score-settling to do.
Post by Floyd
... Look at the graves of the war dead from both sides from
WW2. Lots of crucifixes on the grave markers and precious little else.
War is like that. (But don't forget the Stars of David here and there
too!)
Post by Floyd
Christians are brutal even to their own.
Humans are brutal, just pretty much across the board. This blather
about Human Life being somehow Sacred always was a bunch of nonsense.
Geert
2008-04-22 00:43:50 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Floyd
Post by unknown
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
New Book, perhaps.
Old News, definitively.
Some folks wanted their Vengeance.
And went out of their way to get it.
What do you expect?
Precisely what happened. Nothing else, in fact.
We have documented incidents of Murken Soljers machine-gunning German
POWs as well. Same thing precisely. I'm not going to waste a lot of
time feeling sorry for the Krauts, certainly. It's too bad the Allied
authorities supposedly in charge didn't take care of these things
better, but then the higher command levels also had some
score-settling to do.
Post by Floyd
... Look at the graves of the war dead from both sides from
WW2. Lots of crucifixes on the grave markers and precious little else.
War is like that. (But don't forget the Stars of David here and there
too!)
There are also graves marked with Crescents in European war cemeteries where
Allied soldiers are buried.
unknown
2008-04-22 01:23:19 UTC
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Post by Geert
Post by unknown
Post by Floyd
... Look at the graves of the war dead from both sides from
WW2. Lots of crucifixes on the grave markers and precious little else.
War is like that. (But don't forget the Stars of David here and there
too!)
There are also graves marked with Crescents in European war cemeteries where
Allied soldiers are buried.
Correct.
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-22 01:15:55 UTC
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Post by unknown
Murken Soljers
Shitzlish
Viejo Vizcacha
2008-04-22 02:34:26 UTC
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Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
By Mark Weber
Germany's defeat in May 1945, and the end of World War II in Europe, did not
bring an end to death and suffering for the vanquished German people.
Instead the victorious Allies ushered in a horrible new era that, in many
ways, was worse than the destruction wrought by war.
And here I stop reading. To write that the Plan Marshall was worse
than bombing of Dresden, is to expect the reader to be an idiot.

VV
Post by John Baker
In a sobering and courageous new book, After the Reich: The Brutal History
of Allied Occupation, British historian Giles MacDonogh details how the
ruined and prostrate Reich (including Austria) was systematically raped and
robbed, and how many Germans who survived the war were either killed in cold
blood or deliberately left to die of disease, cold, malnutrition or
starvation.
Many people take the view that, given the wartime misdeeds of the Nazis,
some degree of vengeful violence against the defeated Germans was inevitable
and perhaps justified. A common response to reports of Allied atrocities is
to say that the Germans "deserved what they got." But as MacDonogh
establishes, the appalling cruelties inflicted on the totally prostrate
German people went far beyond that.
His best estimate is that some three million Germans, military and
civilians, died unnecessarily after the official end of hostilities.
A million of these were men who were being held as prisoners of war, most of
whom died in Soviet captivity. (Of the 90,000 Germans who surrendered at
Stalingrad, for example, only 5,000 ever returned to their homeland.) Less
well known is the story of the many thousands of German prisoners who died
in American and British captivity, most infamously in horrid holding camps
along the Rhine river, with no shelter and very little food. Others, more
fortunate, toiled as slave labor in Allied countries, often for years.
Most of the two million German civilians who perished after the end of the
war were women, children and elderly -- victims of disease, cold, hunger,
suicide, and mass murder.
Apart from the wide-scale rape of millions of German girls and woman in the
Soviet occupation zones, perhaps the most shocking outrage recorded by
MacDonogh is the slaughter of a quarter of a million Sudeten Germans by
their vengeful Czech compatriots. The wretched survivors of this ethnic
cleansing were pitched across the border, never to return to their homes.
There were similar scenes of death and dispossession in Pomerania, Silesia
and East Prussia as the age-old German communities of those provinces were
likewise brutally expunged.
We are ceaselessly reminded of the Third Reich's wartime concentration
camps. But few Americans are aware that such infamous camps as Dachau,
Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen and Auschwitz stayed in business after the end of
the war, only now packed with German captives, many of whom perished
miserably.
The vengeful plan by US Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau to turn defeated
Germany into an impoverished "pastoral" country, stripped of modern
industry, is recounted by MacDonogh, as well as other genocidal schemes to
starve, sterilize or deport the population of what was left of the
bombed-out cities.
It wasn't an awakening of humanitarian concern that prompted a change in
American and British attitudes toward the defeated Germans. The shift in
postwar policy was based on fear of Soviet Russian expansion, and prompted a
calculated appeal to the German public to support the new anti-Soviet stance
of the US and Britain.
MacDonogh's important book is an antidote to the simplistic but enduring
propaganda portrait of World War II as a clash between Good and Evil, and
debunks the widely accepted image of benevolent Allied treatment of defeated
Germany.
This 615-page volume is much more than a gruesome chronicle of death and
human suffering. Enhanced with moving anecdotes, it also provides historical
context and perspective. It is probably the best work available in English
on this shameful chapter of twentieth century history
--
John Baker
" Live and let live "
Chom Noamsky
2008-04-23 05:35:52 UTC
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Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
That's what happens to supporters of the Antichrist.
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-23 15:56:15 UTC
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Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?

Other Losses by James Bacque.
published 1991
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-23 16:41:30 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:56:15 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Fuck the genocidal krauts.
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-23 20:46:26 UTC
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Post by Karl Kolchak
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:56:15 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Fuck the genocidal krauts.
How about the genocidal ameriKKKans
who killed the 1,000,000 Germans.
Oh I see..............
It's not genocide or even killing
when noble ameriKKKans do it!
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-23 21:37:16 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:46:26 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Karl Kolchak
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:56:15 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Fuck the genocidal krauts.
How about the genocidal ameriKKKans
who killed the 1,000,000 Germans.
You're insane, fuck off and bathe in sauerkraut.
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-23 22:39:56 UTC
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Post by Karl Kolchak
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:46:26 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Karl Kolchak
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:56:15 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Fuck the genocidal krauts.
How about the genocidal ameriKKKans
who killed the 1,000,000 Germans.
You're insane, fuck off and bathe in sauerkraut.
Pot.....Kettle!!
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-23 23:14:48 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:39:56 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Karl Kolchak
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:46:26 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Karl Kolchak
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:56:15 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Fuck the genocidal krauts.
How about the genocidal ameriKKKans
who killed the 1,000,000 Germans.
You're insane, fuck off and bathe in sauerkraut.
Pot.....Kettle!!
No really, get lost.
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-23 23:31:19 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:39:56 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Karl Kolchak
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:46:26 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Karl Kolchak
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:56:15 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Fuck the genocidal krauts.
How about the genocidal ameriKKKans
who killed the 1,000,000 Germans.
You're insane, fuck off and bathe in sauerkraut.
Pot.....Kettle!!
No really, get lost.
How about the genocidal ameriKKKans
who killed the 1,000,000 Germans.
Oh I see..............
It's not genocide or even killing
when noble ameriKKKans do it!
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-24 00:04:50 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:31:19 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
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the usual paranoiac useless shit....
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-24 01:11:57 UTC
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Post by Karl Kolchak
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:31:19 -0500, "Robert Sveinson"
the usual paranoiac useless shit....
Quit bragging
gatt
2008-04-24 15:40:59 UTC
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How about the genocidal ameriKKKans
who killed the 1,000,000 Germans.
Oh I see..............
It's not genocide or even killing
when noble ameriKKKans do it!
Oh, it was definately a killin', Schultz.
tankfixer
2008-04-24 02:42:21 UTC
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In article <q_IPj.110395$***@newsfe15.lga>, ***@mts.net
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Other Losses by James Bacque.
published 1991
How about a discredited book ?
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/b/bacque-james/ambrose-001.html
http://www.cbmh.ca/archive/00000202/
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1532707
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"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-24 03:37:35 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Other Losses by James Bacque.
published 1991
How about a discredited book ?
Would these "discreditors" be ameriKKKan by any chance.
They can't be there hasn't been a law suit!
Post by tankfixer
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/b/bacque-james/ambrose-001.html
http://www.cbmh.ca/archive/00000202/
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1532707
--
"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
tankfixer
2008-04-24 03:53:38 UTC
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In article <WfTPj.59533$***@newsfe21.lga>, ***@mts.net
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
says...
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Other Losses by James Bacque.
published 1991
How about a discredited book ?
Would these "discreditors" be ameriKKKan by any chance.
They can't be there hasn't been a law suit!
No need for one..
The book is discredited.
But I see I am dealing with a child here so bbye sonny.
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/b/bacque-james/ambrose-001.html
http://www.cbmh.ca/archive/00000202/
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1532707
--
"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-24 23:29:02 UTC
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Post by tankfixer
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
says...
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Other Losses by James Bacque.
published 1991
How about a discredited book ?
Would these "discreditors" be ameriKKKan by any chance.
They can't be there hasn't been a law suit!
No need for one..
The book is discredited.
By Mrrkan Myth Makers!
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-24 03:54:37 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Other Losses by James Bacque.
published 1991
How about a discredited book ?
Would these "discreditors" be ameriKKKan by any chance.
They can't be there hasn't been a law suit!
The author is canadian and they only do that kind of shit in the UK.
B.H. Cramer
2008-04-24 05:07:26 UTC
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Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Other Losses by James Bacque.
published 1991
How about a discredited book ?
Would these "discreditors" be ameriKKKan by any chance.
They can't be there hasn't been a law suit!
The author is canadian and they only do that kind of shit in the UK.
The book has been "discredited" by the yids. As they do with everything they
dislike.
gatt
2008-04-24 15:42:52 UTC
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Post by B.H. Cramer
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Would these "discreditors" be ameriKKKan by any chance.
They can't be there hasn't been a law suit!
The author is canadian and they only do that kind of shit in the UK.
The book has been "discredited" by the yids. As they do with everything
they dislike.
So, which is it? The "ameriKKKans", the UK, the Canadians or the "yids"?

You skinjob losers keep changing your story.
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-24 16:52:56 UTC
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Post by gatt
Post by B.H. Cramer
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Would these "discreditors" be ameriKKKan by any chance.
They can't be there hasn't been a law suit!
The author is canadian and they only do that kind of shit in the UK.
The book has been "discredited" by the yids. As they do with everything
they dislike.
So, which is it? The "ameriKKKans", the UK, the Canadians or the "yids"?
You skinjob losers keep changing your story.
Cramer should be made into a lamp...
gatt
2008-04-24 19:29:28 UTC
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Post by gatt
So, which is it? The "ameriKKKans", the UK, the Canadians or the "yids"?
You skinjob losers keep changing your story.
Cramer should be made into a lamp...
Not bright enough. :>

-c
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-25 01:50:42 UTC
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Post by gatt
Post by Karl Kolchak
Post by gatt
So, which is it? The "ameriKKKans", the UK, the Canadians or the "yids"?
You skinjob losers keep changing your story.
Cramer should be made into a lamp...
Not bright enough. :>
-c
LOL!

How about an oil lamp?
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-25 03:26:04 UTC
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Post by Karl Kolchak
Post by gatt
Post by Karl Kolchak
Post by gatt
So, which is it? The "ameriKKKans", the UK, the Canadians or the "yids"?
You skinjob losers keep changing your story.
Cramer should be made into a lamp...
Not bright enough. :>
-c
LOL!
How about an oil lamp?
Just the fat.
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-25 04:08:38 UTC
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:26:04 GMT, Lobby Dosser
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Karl Kolchak
Post by gatt
Post by Karl Kolchak
Post by gatt
So, which is it? The "ameriKKKans", the UK, the Canadians or the "yids"?
You skinjob losers keep changing your story.
Cramer should be made into a lamp...
Not bright enough. :>
-c
LOL!
How about an oil lamp?
Just the fat.
Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble...let him be as to a lamp unto my
feet...
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-25 00:32:59 UTC
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Post by gatt
Post by B.H. Cramer
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Would these "discreditors" be ameriKKKan by any chance.
They can't be there hasn't been a law suit!
The author is canadian and they only do that kind of shit in the UK.
The book has been "discredited" by the yids. As they do with
everything they dislike.
So, which is it? The "ameriKKKans", the UK, the Canadians or the "yids"?
You skinjob losers keep changing your story.
Cramer should be made into a lamp...
He have any tattoos? I'm thinking of doing some panels, kind of like
stained glass.
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-25 01:50:47 UTC
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:32:59 GMT, Lobby Dosser
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Karl Kolchak
Post by gatt
Post by B.H. Cramer
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Would these "discreditors" be ameriKKKan by any chance.
They can't be there hasn't been a law suit!
The author is canadian and they only do that kind of shit in the UK.
The book has been "discredited" by the yids. As they do with
everything they dislike.
So, which is it? The "ameriKKKans", the UK, the Canadians or the "yids"?
You skinjob losers keep changing your story.
Cramer should be made into a lamp...
He have any tattoos? I'm thinking of doing some panels, kind of like
stained glass.
LOL!
B. Cramer
2008-04-25 01:36:59 UTC
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Post by Karl Kolchak
Post by gatt
Post by B.H. Cramer
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Would these "discreditors" be ameriKKKan by any chance.
They can't be there hasn't been a law suit!
The author is canadian and they only do that kind of shit in the UK.
The book has been "discredited" by the yids. As they do with everything
they dislike.
So, which is it? The "ameriKKKans", the UK, the Canadians or the "yids"?
You skinjob losers keep changing your story.
Cramer should be made into a lamp...
Is it something I've said????????

I hope so, jew cunt.
Karl Kolchak
2008-04-25 04:08:36 UTC
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:36:59 +1000, "B. Cramer"
Post by B. Cramer
Post by Karl Kolchak
Post by gatt
Post by B.H. Cramer
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Would these "discreditors" be ameriKKKan by any chance.
They can't be there hasn't been a law suit!
The author is canadian and they only do that kind of shit in the UK.
The book has been "discredited" by the yids. As they do with everything
they dislike.
So, which is it? The "ameriKKKans", the UK, the Canadians or the "yids"?
You skinjob losers keep changing your story.
Cramer should be made into a lamp...
Is it something I've said????????
I hope so, jew cunt.
Ding!
Robert Sveinson
2008-04-24 23:30:06 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans
at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Other Losses by James Bacque.
published 1991
How about a discredited book ?
Would these "discreditors" be ameriKKKan by any chance.
They can't be there hasn't been a law suit!
The author is canadian and they only do that kind of shit in the UK.
You spelled U$$A incorrectly!!!
Lobby Dosser
2008-04-25 03:27:53 UTC
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by Lobby Dosser
Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by tankfixer
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Post by Robert Sveinson
Post by John Baker
New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of
Germans at the End of World War Two
How about the *old* book detailing mass killings and brutal
mistreatment of Germans at the end of WW II in Europe?
Other Losses by James Bacque.
published 1991
How about a discredited book ?
Would these "discreditors" be ameriKKKan by any chance.
They can't be there hasn't been a law suit!
The author is canadian and they only do that kind of shit in the UK.
You spelled U$$A incorrectly!!!
The author is canadian and one almost never hears of a lawsuit over a
book in the US.
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