Daniel Bernard
2005-04-22 09:03:11 UTC
'The future doesn't hang on one man': why Peres could hold key to road
map success
Consensus is essential for peace, says former PM
Chris McGreal in Tel Aviv
Friday April 22, 2005
Guardian
Shimon Peres doesn't like talking about the past. History, the Israeli
vice-premier and Labour party leader says, bores him. "I never think
back. Since I cannot change the past, why should I deal with it? You
have to really deal with the future," he said in an interview with the
Guardian.
Those Israelis who cast the Nobel peace prize winner as one of the
"Oslo criminals" for attempting to make peace with the Palestinians a
decade ago might say he cannot bear to reflect on his failure.
But the octogenarian former prime minister is almost as reluctant to
talk about a not-too-distant future; what Israelis call "the day
after".
Only the very pessimistic - or optimistic for those who share the
views of the hard core of Jewish settlers - now doubt that Ariel
Sharon intends to carry through his "unilateral disengagement plan" to
pull out of the Gaza Strip.
The Israeli prime minister has staked his political future on removing
the 8,000 Jewish settlers living there. The Israeli public
overwhelmingly backs the move as a step toward "separation" from the
Palestinians, and Mr Peres has taken his Labour party into the
government to ensure it goes ahead.
But then what? Is Gaza the beginning of a process that will also see
Israel withdraw from most of the West Bank and the establishment of a
real state for the Palestinians?
Or is it Gaza first and last, as the Palestinians fear, with
disengagement a cover for Mr Sharon to entrench more than 400,000
settlers living in the rest of the occupied territories while
unilaterally imposing the borders of a rump Palestinian homeland that
would remain in Israel's grip?
Mr Sharon is not saying, but Mr Peres may hold the key.
"The only reason I am in the government is the peace process. We don't
have any other reason," he said, adding that the party would leave the
government if Israel halted the peace process.
"One thing I believe is that the future doesn't hang on a single man,
whether he's a prime minister or anybody else. It is the reality and
the climate that are being established after a reaction that creates a
new reality. Clearly it's not the man that decides about reality, it's
the reality that decides about the leader."
By rights, it should be Mr Peres's Labour party that is leading the
charge from Gaza. Under a different leader, the party campaigned in
the general election two years ago on a pledge to unilaterally pull
out of Gaza, and it first proposed building a "security fence" along
the West Bank border. Mr Sharon used to dismiss both measures as a
victory for terrorism.
The prime minister stole the tactics when his support began to ebb,
but the manoeuvre deeply divided his Likud party and now he is forced
to rely on Labour to make his disengagement plan possible.
Mr Peres has come under strong criticism within his own party for
serving under Mr Sharon as his vice-premier, and some Labour members
want him to force an election once the Gaza withdrawal is complete.
But the Labour leader says he will keep the administration afloat so
long as there is a return to the US-led "road map" that Mr Sharon has
declared frozen.
"The day after there will be an extreme difference between us and
Likud. Labour will say go for the road map. Likud will say it too but
only after the Palestinians destroy the infrastructure of terror," he
said. "I see in the road map the expression of a political vision and
I would like to have a full peace and a full agreement."
But Mr Peres is in no great hurry to get there.
"If you have a brilliant plan without a majority or a mediocre plan
with a majority, you have to pay attention to the majority, not to the
brilliance of the proposals," he said.
"And for the first time here there was created a majority ... Not as
perfect as we would like but a working majority. So there must be a
combination of a good plan and a real majority."
Talk of moving slowly makes the Palestinians nervous and suspicious.
They say Israel uses delay to tighten its grip on territory by
creating "new facts on the ground". In the decade after the signing of
the 1993 Oslo accords, Israel doubled the size of Jewish settlements
in the West Bank.
"It seems the Israeli negotiations are on the basis of making peace
among themselves," said the Palestinian chief negotiator, Saeb Erekat.
"My analysis is that Mr Sharon is trying to cancel the third phase of
the road map that specifies Israel has to end the occupation and
negotiate the status of Jerusalem and refugees. Everything I see is
going in that direction."
The Palestinian leadership wants Israel to state clearly that the
final objective is a Palestinian state based on 1967 borders with East
Jerusalem as its capital, with some swapping of territory to take
account of Jewish settlements in and around Jerusalem that it is
widely agreed will inevitably be incorporated into Israel.
Mr Sharon's allies say that even if that is his intent he cannot say
so publicly without inflaming opposition to the withdrawal from Gaza
and provoking a further revolt in his Likud party that might bring
down the government.
Mr Peres doubts that the Israeli public is ready to go that far.
"I'm not sure. I think I would wait on the issue of Jerusalem ... and
also the issue of refugees. These are the two things that may prevent
us from having a majority for the time being," he said.
But others in the Labour party argue for continued unilateral action.
"The day after, there will be no serious negotiations about permanent
status," said a senior Labour MP, Haim Ramon. "I believe the next step
should be Disengagement 2, where we go back and repeat that we do not
want to rule that area [the West Bank] ... The public in general is
ripe to leave the rest of the territories."
But Mr Erekat suspects that the reason Mr Sharon remains silent is
that he has no intention either of negotiating or of adhering to the
1967 borders. He believes that disengagement, along with the "security
fence" and continued settlement expansion, is part of the Israeli
prime minister's strategy to dictate the borders of a rump Palestinian
state.
So is Mr Peres confident that, after the pullout from Gaza is
complete, Mr Sharon will return to the road map and negotiate a
settlement?
"I don't have a reason to deny what the prime minister says but I
believe a combination of what he said and what is happening on the
ground will really push all of us to continue the peace process," he
said.
"You can't stop it. If you reach the middle of the lake and you feel
tired, don't swim back."
--
amicalement,
Daniel
map success
Consensus is essential for peace, says former PM
Chris McGreal in Tel Aviv
Friday April 22, 2005
Guardian
Shimon Peres doesn't like talking about the past. History, the Israeli
vice-premier and Labour party leader says, bores him. "I never think
back. Since I cannot change the past, why should I deal with it? You
have to really deal with the future," he said in an interview with the
Guardian.
Those Israelis who cast the Nobel peace prize winner as one of the
"Oslo criminals" for attempting to make peace with the Palestinians a
decade ago might say he cannot bear to reflect on his failure.
But the octogenarian former prime minister is almost as reluctant to
talk about a not-too-distant future; what Israelis call "the day
after".
Only the very pessimistic - or optimistic for those who share the
views of the hard core of Jewish settlers - now doubt that Ariel
Sharon intends to carry through his "unilateral disengagement plan" to
pull out of the Gaza Strip.
The Israeli prime minister has staked his political future on removing
the 8,000 Jewish settlers living there. The Israeli public
overwhelmingly backs the move as a step toward "separation" from the
Palestinians, and Mr Peres has taken his Labour party into the
government to ensure it goes ahead.
But then what? Is Gaza the beginning of a process that will also see
Israel withdraw from most of the West Bank and the establishment of a
real state for the Palestinians?
Or is it Gaza first and last, as the Palestinians fear, with
disengagement a cover for Mr Sharon to entrench more than 400,000
settlers living in the rest of the occupied territories while
unilaterally imposing the borders of a rump Palestinian homeland that
would remain in Israel's grip?
Mr Sharon is not saying, but Mr Peres may hold the key.
"The only reason I am in the government is the peace process. We don't
have any other reason," he said, adding that the party would leave the
government if Israel halted the peace process.
"One thing I believe is that the future doesn't hang on a single man,
whether he's a prime minister or anybody else. It is the reality and
the climate that are being established after a reaction that creates a
new reality. Clearly it's not the man that decides about reality, it's
the reality that decides about the leader."
By rights, it should be Mr Peres's Labour party that is leading the
charge from Gaza. Under a different leader, the party campaigned in
the general election two years ago on a pledge to unilaterally pull
out of Gaza, and it first proposed building a "security fence" along
the West Bank border. Mr Sharon used to dismiss both measures as a
victory for terrorism.
The prime minister stole the tactics when his support began to ebb,
but the manoeuvre deeply divided his Likud party and now he is forced
to rely on Labour to make his disengagement plan possible.
Mr Peres has come under strong criticism within his own party for
serving under Mr Sharon as his vice-premier, and some Labour members
want him to force an election once the Gaza withdrawal is complete.
But the Labour leader says he will keep the administration afloat so
long as there is a return to the US-led "road map" that Mr Sharon has
declared frozen.
"The day after there will be an extreme difference between us and
Likud. Labour will say go for the road map. Likud will say it too but
only after the Palestinians destroy the infrastructure of terror," he
said. "I see in the road map the expression of a political vision and
I would like to have a full peace and a full agreement."
But Mr Peres is in no great hurry to get there.
"If you have a brilliant plan without a majority or a mediocre plan
with a majority, you have to pay attention to the majority, not to the
brilliance of the proposals," he said.
"And for the first time here there was created a majority ... Not as
perfect as we would like but a working majority. So there must be a
combination of a good plan and a real majority."
Talk of moving slowly makes the Palestinians nervous and suspicious.
They say Israel uses delay to tighten its grip on territory by
creating "new facts on the ground". In the decade after the signing of
the 1993 Oslo accords, Israel doubled the size of Jewish settlements
in the West Bank.
"It seems the Israeli negotiations are on the basis of making peace
among themselves," said the Palestinian chief negotiator, Saeb Erekat.
"My analysis is that Mr Sharon is trying to cancel the third phase of
the road map that specifies Israel has to end the occupation and
negotiate the status of Jerusalem and refugees. Everything I see is
going in that direction."
The Palestinian leadership wants Israel to state clearly that the
final objective is a Palestinian state based on 1967 borders with East
Jerusalem as its capital, with some swapping of territory to take
account of Jewish settlements in and around Jerusalem that it is
widely agreed will inevitably be incorporated into Israel.
Mr Sharon's allies say that even if that is his intent he cannot say
so publicly without inflaming opposition to the withdrawal from Gaza
and provoking a further revolt in his Likud party that might bring
down the government.
Mr Peres doubts that the Israeli public is ready to go that far.
"I'm not sure. I think I would wait on the issue of Jerusalem ... and
also the issue of refugees. These are the two things that may prevent
us from having a majority for the time being," he said.
But others in the Labour party argue for continued unilateral action.
"The day after, there will be no serious negotiations about permanent
status," said a senior Labour MP, Haim Ramon. "I believe the next step
should be Disengagement 2, where we go back and repeat that we do not
want to rule that area [the West Bank] ... The public in general is
ripe to leave the rest of the territories."
But Mr Erekat suspects that the reason Mr Sharon remains silent is
that he has no intention either of negotiating or of adhering to the
1967 borders. He believes that disengagement, along with the "security
fence" and continued settlement expansion, is part of the Israeli
prime minister's strategy to dictate the borders of a rump Palestinian
state.
So is Mr Peres confident that, after the pullout from Gaza is
complete, Mr Sharon will return to the road map and negotiate a
settlement?
"I don't have a reason to deny what the prime minister says but I
believe a combination of what he said and what is happening on the
ground will really push all of us to continue the peace process," he
said.
"You can't stop it. If you reach the middle of the lake and you feel
tired, don't swim back."
--
amicalement,
Daniel