Discussion:
Open invitation to Ardeedee & Straights Timed
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Goh Meng Seng
2004-05-20 13:24:42 UTC
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To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,

Even though we have very different views and perspective when it comes to
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you teach me
each time we sparred.

Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your own
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you have went
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights Timed).
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.

In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for Versak
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this invitation by
this weekend.

Goh Meng Seng
ardeedee
2004-05-20 16:31:13 UTC
Permalink
I am sorry but I am completely browned off by political parties and even by
opposition parties as I have had learning experience.

This is not to denigrate your position or your person as you obviously mean
well and intend to
be an effective and diligent opposition member.

I am not a racist but I am seeing rising discontent among the other races in
Singapore because we can just see ourselves sinking deeper into the mire of
poverty and frustration.If we are left with jobs that simply allow us to
survive on daily basis we cannot raise ourselves up and go beyond the pale
of poverty.

None of us are fools and we can see clearly above the horizons - we have no
future here unless we are PAP arse kissers or we have a major luck of the
draw but to progress on our own volition without having to hold onto the
coat-tails of PAP stalwarts is impossible for we are proud people and we see
no reason why we must humiliate ourselves to toady to another human being
whose sole claim to fame is because he is a man in white.

All talk of talent etc is pure bunkum if talent is only in the eye of the
powerful beholders who only see what they want.

I hope you are successful and perhaps one day we will have the cup of tea or
coffee but unless your party can prove that you have leaders who are intent
on working for the one united Singapore rather than a Chinese Singapore I
will prefer to be on the sidelines. Good luck.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it comes to
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you teach me
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your own
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you have went
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights Timed).
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for Versak
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this invitation by
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
Goh Meng Seng
2004-05-21 03:17:59 UTC
Permalink
Dear Ardeedee,

I am really puzzled sometimes, why you have this impression that WP is only
working for a "Chinese Singapore". Is this a common perception among your
community (or all other minority community)?

No politician in his right mind would put his agenda as "Chinese Singapore".
No one could win without the minority support. . In fact, during the many
Meet the People Sessions, we have been helping alot of Singaporeans from the
minority groups. There are people who we refused to help due to certain
known reasons, and these people include some Chinese as well. It is easy to
check out whether what I say is true or not. Just pay a visit to Hougang
MPS.If it is due to the fact that JBJ was "forced" to resign, then I think
that's unfair to us, the new generation of party workers and leadership.

There are many entangling issues in JBJ's eventual resign. I do not wish to
comment on it but if you have the time, I could present you on what I learnt
about the whole issue over tea. But in simple terms, would you fight for an
organization which is drowning with someone's doing? JBJ is suing WP CEC to
pay for the defamation damages in which WP CEC has already paid up half of
it. WP nearly gets wind up by PAP due to this incident.... anyway, it is a
long history to go by. But the simple fact is that if WP is really aiming
for "Chinese Singapore", JBJ won't have remained as secretary general for
the past three decades.

However, if there are any other reasons that make you think we are for
"Chinese Singapore", please let me know. I seriously want to learn about it.

I thank you for the blessings and I seriously hope that we could sit down
and have a cup of tea, no matter whether I succeed in becoming a MP.


Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
I am sorry but I am completely browned off by political parties and even by
opposition parties as I have had learning experience.
This is not to denigrate your position or your person as you obviously mean
well and intend to
be an effective and diligent opposition member.
I am not a racist but I am seeing rising discontent among the other races in
Singapore because we can just see ourselves sinking deeper into the mire of
poverty and frustration.If we are left with jobs that simply allow us to
survive on daily basis we cannot raise ourselves up and go beyond the pale
of poverty.
None of us are fools and we can see clearly above the horizons - we have no
future here unless we are PAP arse kissers or we have a major luck of the
draw but to progress on our own volition without having to hold onto the
coat-tails of PAP stalwarts is impossible for we are proud people and we see
no reason why we must humiliate ourselves to toady to another human being
whose sole claim to fame is because he is a man in white.
All talk of talent etc is pure bunkum if talent is only in the eye of the
powerful beholders who only see what they want.
I hope you are successful and perhaps one day we will have the cup of tea or
coffee but unless your party can prove that you have leaders who are intent
on working for the one united Singapore rather than a Chinese Singapore I
will prefer to be on the sidelines. Good luck.
Lau Niu
2004-05-21 04:42:08 UTC
Permalink
May be Low Thia Kiang is Chinese Educated and give many peoples that
impression.
especially after JBJ resigned and left WP.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Ardeedee,
I am really puzzled sometimes, why you have this impression that WP is only
working for a "Chinese Singapore". Is this a common perception among your
community (or all other minority community)?
No politician in his right mind would put his agenda as "Chinese Singapore".
No one could win without the minority support. . In fact, during the many
Meet the People Sessions, we have been helping alot of Singaporeans from the
minority groups. There are people who we refused to help due to certain
known reasons, and these people include some Chinese as well. It is easy to
check out whether what I say is true or not. Just pay a visit to Hougang
MPS.If it is due to the fact that JBJ was "forced" to resign, then I think
that's unfair to us, the new generation of party workers and leadership.
There are many entangling issues in JBJ's eventual resign. I do not wish to
comment on it but if you have the time, I could present you on what I learnt
about the whole issue over tea. But in simple terms, would you fight for an
organization which is drowning with someone's doing? JBJ is suing WP CEC to
pay for the defamation damages in which WP CEC has already paid up half of
it. WP nearly gets wind up by PAP due to this incident.... anyway, it is a
long history to go by. But the simple fact is that if WP is really aiming
for "Chinese Singapore", JBJ won't have remained as secretary general for
the past three decades.
However, if there are any other reasons that make you think we are for
"Chinese Singapore", please let me know. I seriously want to learn about it.
I thank you for the blessings and I seriously hope that we could sit down
and have a cup of tea, no matter whether I succeed in becoming a MP.
Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
I am sorry but I am completely browned off by political parties and even
by
Post by ardeedee
opposition parties as I have had learning experience.
This is not to denigrate your position or your person as you obviously
mean
Post by ardeedee
well and intend to
be an effective and diligent opposition member.
I am not a racist but I am seeing rising discontent among the other
races
Post by Goh Meng Seng
in
Post by ardeedee
Singapore because we can just see ourselves sinking deeper into the mire
of
Post by ardeedee
poverty and frustration.If we are left with jobs that simply allow us to
survive on daily basis we cannot raise ourselves up and go beyond the pale
of poverty.
None of us are fools and we can see clearly above the horizons - we have
no
Post by ardeedee
future here unless we are PAP arse kissers or we have a major luck of the
draw but to progress on our own volition without having to hold onto the
coat-tails of PAP stalwarts is impossible for we are proud people and we
see
Post by ardeedee
no reason why we must humiliate ourselves to toady to another human being
whose sole claim to fame is because he is a man in white.
All talk of talent etc is pure bunkum if talent is only in the eye of the
powerful beholders who only see what they want.
I hope you are successful and perhaps one day we will have the cup of
tea
Post by Goh Meng Seng
or
Post by ardeedee
coffee but unless your party can prove that you have leaders who are
intent
Post by ardeedee
on working for the one united Singapore rather than a Chinese Singapore I
will prefer to be on the sidelines. Good luck.
ardeedee
2004-05-21 05:01:43 UTC
Permalink
Partly but WP must make concerted campaign to insist that they are a united
party for all Singaporeans but this might risk losing some die- hard Chinese
supporters.
Post by Lau Niu
May be Low Thia Kiang is Chinese Educated and give many peoples that
impression.
especially after JBJ resigned and left WP.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Ardeedee,
I am really puzzled sometimes, why you have this impression that WP is
only
Post by Goh Meng Seng
working for a "Chinese Singapore". Is this a common perception among your
community (or all other minority community)?
No politician in his right mind would put his agenda as "Chinese
Singapore".
Post by Goh Meng Seng
No one could win without the minority support. . In fact, during the many
Meet the People Sessions, we have been helping alot of Singaporeans from
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
minority groups. There are people who we refused to help due to certain
known reasons, and these people include some Chinese as well. It is easy
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
check out whether what I say is true or not. Just pay a visit to Hougang
MPS.If it is due to the fact that JBJ was "forced" to resign, then I think
that's unfair to us, the new generation of party workers and leadership.
There are many entangling issues in JBJ's eventual resign. I do not wish
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
comment on it but if you have the time, I could present you on what I
learnt
Post by Goh Meng Seng
about the whole issue over tea. But in simple terms, would you fight for
an
Post by Goh Meng Seng
organization which is drowning with someone's doing? JBJ is suing WP CEC
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
pay for the defamation damages in which WP CEC has already paid up half of
it. WP nearly gets wind up by PAP due to this incident.... anyway, it is a
long history to go by. But the simple fact is that if WP is really aiming
for "Chinese Singapore", JBJ won't have remained as secretary general for
the past three decades.
However, if there are any other reasons that make you think we are for
"Chinese Singapore", please let me know. I seriously want to learn about
it.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
I thank you for the blessings and I seriously hope that we could sit down
and have a cup of tea, no matter whether I succeed in becoming a MP.
Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
I am sorry but I am completely browned off by political parties and even
by
Post by ardeedee
opposition parties as I have had learning experience.
This is not to denigrate your position or your person as you obviously
mean
Post by ardeedee
well and intend to
be an effective and diligent opposition member.
I am not a racist but I am seeing rising discontent among the other
races
Post by Goh Meng Seng
in
Post by ardeedee
Singapore because we can just see ourselves sinking deeper into the mire
of
Post by ardeedee
poverty and frustration.If we are left with jobs that simply allow us
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
survive on daily basis we cannot raise ourselves up and go beyond the
pale
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
of poverty.
None of us are fools and we can see clearly above the horizons - we have
no
Post by ardeedee
future here unless we are PAP arse kissers or we have a major luck of
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
draw but to progress on our own volition without having to hold onto the
coat-tails of PAP stalwarts is impossible for we are proud people and we
see
Post by ardeedee
no reason why we must humiliate ourselves to toady to another human
being
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
whose sole claim to fame is because he is a man in white.
All talk of talent etc is pure bunkum if talent is only in the eye of
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
powerful beholders who only see what they want.
I hope you are successful and perhaps one day we will have the cup of
tea
Post by Goh Meng Seng
or
Post by ardeedee
coffee but unless your party can prove that you have leaders who are
intent
Post by ardeedee
on working for the one united Singapore rather than a Chinese
Singapore
Post by Lau Niu
I
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
will prefer to be on the sidelines. Good luck.
truth
2004-05-21 07:28:53 UTC
Permalink
You have to remember that in fighting for the minority
the political parties cannot go overboard otherwise
they will antagonise the majority.
It is a fine balance, but do appreciate their limited
resources and difficulties.
Post by ardeedee
Partly but WP must make concerted campaign to insist that they are a united
party for all Singaporeans but this might risk losing some die- hard Chinese
supporters.
Post by Lau Niu
May be Low Thia Kiang is Chinese Educated and give many peoples that
impression.
especially after JBJ resigned and left WP.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Ardeedee,
I am really puzzled sometimes, why you have this impression that WP is
only
Post by Goh Meng Seng
working for a "Chinese Singapore". Is this a common perception among
your
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
community (or all other minority community)?
No politician in his right mind would put his agenda as "Chinese
Singapore".
Post by Goh Meng Seng
No one could win without the minority support. . In fact, during the
many
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Meet the People Sessions, we have been helping alot of Singaporeans from
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
minority groups. There are people who we refused to help due to certain
known reasons, and these people include some Chinese as well. It is easy
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
check out whether what I say is true or not. Just pay a visit to Hougang
MPS.If it is due to the fact that JBJ was "forced" to resign, then I
think
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
that's unfair to us, the new generation of party workers and leadership.
There are many entangling issues in JBJ's eventual resign. I do not wish
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
comment on it but if you have the time, I could present you on what I
learnt
Post by Goh Meng Seng
about the whole issue over tea. But in simple terms, would you fight for
an
Post by Goh Meng Seng
organization which is drowning with someone's doing? JBJ is suing WP CEC
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
pay for the defamation damages in which WP CEC has already paid up
half
Post by ardeedee
of
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
it. WP nearly gets wind up by PAP due to this incident.... anyway, it
is
Post by ardeedee
a
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
long history to go by. But the simple fact is that if WP is really
aiming
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
for "Chinese Singapore", JBJ won't have remained as secretary general
for
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
the past three decades.
However, if there are any other reasons that make you think we are for
"Chinese Singapore", please let me know. I seriously want to learn about
it.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
I thank you for the blessings and I seriously hope that we could sit
down
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
and have a cup of tea, no matter whether I succeed in becoming a MP.
Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
I am sorry but I am completely browned off by political parties and
even
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
by
Post by ardeedee
opposition parties as I have had learning experience.
This is not to denigrate your position or your person as you obviously
mean
Post by ardeedee
well and intend to
be an effective and diligent opposition member.
I am not a racist but I am seeing rising discontent among the other
races
Post by Goh Meng Seng
in
Post by ardeedee
Singapore because we can just see ourselves sinking deeper into the
mire
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
of
Post by ardeedee
poverty and frustration.If we are left with jobs that simply allow us
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
survive on daily basis we cannot raise ourselves up and go beyond the
pale
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
of poverty.
None of us are fools and we can see clearly above the horizons - we
have
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
no
Post by ardeedee
future here unless we are PAP arse kissers or we have a major luck of
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
draw but to progress on our own volition without having to hold onto
the
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
coat-tails of PAP stalwarts is impossible for we are proud people
and
Post by ardeedee
we
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
see
Post by ardeedee
no reason why we must humiliate ourselves to toady to another human
being
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
whose sole claim to fame is because he is a man in white.
All talk of talent etc is pure bunkum if talent is only in the eye of
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
powerful beholders who only see what they want.
I hope you are successful and perhaps one day we will have the cup of
tea
Post by Goh Meng Seng
or
Post by ardeedee
coffee but unless your party can prove that you have leaders who are
intent
Post by ardeedee
on working for the one united Singapore rather than a Chinese
Singapore
Post by Lau Niu
I
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
will prefer to be on the sidelines. Good luck.
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2004-05-21 07:52:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by truth
You have to remember that in fighting for the minority
the political parties cannot go overboard otherwise
they will antagonise the majority.
It is a fine balance, but do appreciate their limited
resources and difficulties.
it must take real lunatic and a one can beer drunkard arsehole to come with
such idiocracies....why must one fight for minorities rights in the first
place ?....why must the majority race be antagonized by giving the
minorities their dues ?...is that what the white aussies do to you fucken
Chinese ?.....make you fight for your basic rights ?....are the whites
sitting comfy and make you fucken Chinese crawl for everything ?....if so
why than are you there down under ?...fucking hypocrite ;preaching something
here while enjoying something else in the white man's land....

the very foundation of Singapore was laid because it rejected Malaysia's
bumi privileges....it was founded on multi racial basis only...Singapore
don't belong to the Chinese....the Chinese were allowed to outnumber others
because of the other races graces only....but once in power it was totally
abused by the Chinese...the sense of being betrayed by the Chinese is indeed
very very deep !
truth
2004-05-21 12:55:40 UTC
Permalink
Not read.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by truth
You have to remember that in fighting for the minority
the political parties cannot go overboard otherwise
they will antagonise the majority.
It is a fine balance, but do appreciate their limited
resources and difficulties.
it must take real lunatic and a one can beer drunkard arsehole to come with
such idiocracies....why must one fight for minorities rights in the first
place ?....why must the majority race be antagonized by giving the
minorities their dues ?...is that what the white aussies do to you fucken
Chinese ?.....make you fight for your basic rights ?....are the whites
sitting comfy and make you fucken Chinese crawl for everything ?....if so
why than are you there down under ?...fucking hypocrite ;preaching something
here while enjoying something else in the white man's land....
the very foundation of Singapore was laid because it rejected Malaysia's
bumi privileges....it was founded on multi racial basis only...Singapore
don't belong to the Chinese....the Chinese were allowed to outnumber others
because of the other races graces only....but once in power it was totally
abused by the Chinese...the sense of being betrayed by the Chinese is indeed
very very deep !
ardeedee
2004-05-21 09:44:12 UTC
Permalink
Yes and that is why National Service should only be for the majority race.
Post by truth
You have to remember that in fighting for the minority
the political parties cannot go overboard otherwise
they will antagonise the majority.
It is a fine balance, but do appreciate their limited
resources and difficulties.
Post by ardeedee
Partly but WP must make concerted campaign to insist that they are a
united
Post by ardeedee
party for all Singaporeans but this might risk losing some die- hard
Chinese
Post by ardeedee
supporters.
Post by Lau Niu
May be Low Thia Kiang is Chinese Educated and give many peoples that
impression.
especially after JBJ resigned and left WP.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Ardeedee,
I am really puzzled sometimes, why you have this impression that WP is
only
Post by Goh Meng Seng
working for a "Chinese Singapore". Is this a common perception among
your
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
community (or all other minority community)?
No politician in his right mind would put his agenda as "Chinese
Singapore".
Post by Goh Meng Seng
No one could win without the minority support. . In fact, during the
many
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Meet the People Sessions, we have been helping alot of Singaporeans
from
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
minority groups. There are people who we refused to help due to
certain
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
known reasons, and these people include some Chinese as well. It is
easy
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
check out whether what I say is true or not. Just pay a visit to
Hougang
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
MPS.If it is due to the fact that JBJ was "forced" to resign, then I
think
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
that's unfair to us, the new generation of party workers and
leadership.
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
There are many entangling issues in JBJ's eventual resign. I do not
wish
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
comment on it but if you have the time, I could present you on what I
learnt
Post by Goh Meng Seng
about the whole issue over tea. But in simple terms, would you fight
for
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
an
Post by Goh Meng Seng
organization which is drowning with someone's doing? JBJ is suing WP
CEC
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
pay for the defamation damages in which WP CEC has already paid up
half
Post by ardeedee
of
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
it. WP nearly gets wind up by PAP due to this incident.... anyway, it
is
Post by ardeedee
a
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
long history to go by. But the simple fact is that if WP is really
aiming
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
for "Chinese Singapore", JBJ won't have remained as secretary general
for
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
the past three decades.
However, if there are any other reasons that make you think we are for
"Chinese Singapore", please let me know. I seriously want to learn
about
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
it.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
I thank you for the blessings and I seriously hope that we could sit
down
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
and have a cup of tea, no matter whether I succeed in becoming a MP.
Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
I am sorry but I am completely browned off by political parties and
even
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
by
Post by ardeedee
opposition parties as I have had learning experience.
This is not to denigrate your position or your person as you
obviously
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
mean
Post by ardeedee
well and intend to
be an effective and diligent opposition member.
I am not a racist but I am seeing rising discontent among the other
races
Post by Goh Meng Seng
in
Post by ardeedee
Singapore because we can just see ourselves sinking deeper into the
mire
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
of
Post by ardeedee
poverty and frustration.If we are left with jobs that simply
allow
Post by truth
us
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
survive on daily basis we cannot raise ourselves up and go beyond
the
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
pale
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
of poverty.
None of us are fools and we can see clearly above the horizons - we
have
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
no
Post by ardeedee
future here unless we are PAP arse kissers or we have a major luck
of
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
draw but to progress on our own volition without having to hold onto
the
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
coat-tails of PAP stalwarts is impossible for we are proud people
and
Post by ardeedee
we
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
see
Post by ardeedee
no reason why we must humiliate ourselves to toady to another human
being
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
whose sole claim to fame is because he is a man in white.
All talk of talent etc is pure bunkum if talent is only in the eye
of
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
powerful beholders who only see what they want.
I hope you are successful and perhaps one day we will have the cup
of
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
tea
Post by Goh Meng Seng
or
Post by ardeedee
coffee but unless your party can prove that you have leaders who are
intent
Post by ardeedee
on working for the one united Singapore rather than a Chinese
Singapore
Post by Lau Niu
I
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
will prefer to be on the sidelines. Good luck.
truth
2004-05-21 13:34:20 UTC
Permalink
Then people will complain that the Singapore government discriminate
against the minority for not giving them the honour to serve the
country.
Post by ardeedee
Yes and that is why National Service should only be for the majority race.
Post by truth
You have to remember that in fighting for the minority
the political parties cannot go overboard otherwise
they will antagonise the majority.
It is a fine balance, but do appreciate their limited
resources and difficulties.
Post by ardeedee
Partly but WP must make concerted campaign to insist that they are a
united
Post by ardeedee
party for all Singaporeans but this might risk losing some die- hard
Chinese
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supporters.
Post by Lau Niu
May be Low Thia Kiang is Chinese Educated and give many peoples that
impression.
especially after JBJ resigned and left WP.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Ardeedee,
I am really puzzled sometimes, why you have this impression that
WP
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is
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Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
only
Post by Goh Meng Seng
working for a "Chinese Singapore". Is this a common perception among
your
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
community (or all other minority community)?
No politician in his right mind would put his agenda as "Chinese
Singapore".
Post by Goh Meng Seng
No one could win without the minority support. . In fact, during the
many
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Meet the People Sessions, we have been helping alot of
Singaporeans
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
from
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Post by Lau Niu
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
minority groups. There are people who we refused to help due to
certain
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
known reasons, and these people include some Chinese as well. It is
easy
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
check out whether what I say is true or not. Just pay a visit to
Hougang
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
MPS.If it is due to the fact that JBJ was "forced" to resign, then I
think
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
that's unfair to us, the new generation of party workers and
leadership.
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
There are many entangling issues in JBJ's eventual resign. I do not
wish
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
comment on it but if you have the time, I could present you on
what
Post by ardeedee
I
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
learnt
Post by Goh Meng Seng
about the whole issue over tea. But in simple terms, would you fight
for
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
an
Post by Goh Meng Seng
organization which is drowning with someone's doing? JBJ is suing WP
CEC
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
to
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pay for the defamation damages in which WP CEC has already paid up
half
Post by ardeedee
of
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Post by Goh Meng Seng
it. WP nearly gets wind up by PAP due to this incident.... anyway,
it
Post by truth
is
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a
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
long history to go by. But the simple fact is that if WP is really
aiming
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
for "Chinese Singapore", JBJ won't have remained as secretary
general
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
for
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
the past three decades.
However, if there are any other reasons that make you think we are
for
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
"Chinese Singapore", please let me know. I seriously want to learn
about
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
it.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
I thank you for the blessings and I seriously hope that we could sit
down
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
and have a cup of tea, no matter whether I succeed in becoming a MP.
Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
I am sorry but I am completely browned off by political parties
and
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
even
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
by
Post by ardeedee
opposition parties as I have had learning experience.
This is not to denigrate your position or your person as you
obviously
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
mean
Post by ardeedee
well and intend to
be an effective and diligent opposition member.
I am not a racist but I am seeing rising discontent among the
other
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
races
Post by Goh Meng Seng
in
Post by ardeedee
Singapore because we can just see ourselves sinking deeper into
the
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
mire
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
of
Post by ardeedee
poverty and frustration.If we are left with jobs that simply
allow
Post by truth
us
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
survive on daily basis we cannot raise ourselves up and go beyond
the
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
pale
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
of poverty.
None of us are fools and we can see clearly above the horizons -
we
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
have
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
no
Post by ardeedee
future here unless we are PAP arse kissers or we have a major luck
of
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
draw but to progress on our own volition without having to hold
onto
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
the
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
coat-tails of PAP stalwarts is impossible for we are proud people
and
Post by ardeedee
we
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
see
Post by ardeedee
no reason why we must humiliate ourselves to toady to another
human
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
being
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
whose sole claim to fame is because he is a man in white.
All talk of talent etc is pure bunkum if talent is only in the eye
of
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
powerful beholders who only see what they want.
I hope you are successful and perhaps one day we will have the cup
of
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
tea
Post by Goh Meng Seng
or
Post by ardeedee
coffee but unless your party can prove that you have leaders who
are
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
intent
Post by ardeedee
on working for the one united Singapore rather than a Chinese
Singapore
Post by Lau Niu
I
Post by Goh Meng Seng
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will prefer to be on the sidelines. Good luck.
ardeedee
2004-05-22 02:06:08 UTC
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Provided that not serving NS does not deprive other priviliges as it did for
the Malays in early 80s.
Post by truth
Then people will complain that the Singapore government discriminate
against the minority for not giving them the honour to serve the
country.
Post by ardeedee
Yes and that is why National Service should only be for the majority race.
Post by truth
You have to remember that in fighting for the minority
the political parties cannot go overboard otherwise
they will antagonise the majority.
It is a fine balance, but do appreciate their limited
resources and difficulties.
Post by ardeedee
Partly but WP must make concerted campaign to insist that they are a
united
Post by ardeedee
party for all Singaporeans but this might risk losing some die- hard
Chinese
Post by ardeedee
supporters.
Post by Lau Niu
May be Low Thia Kiang is Chinese Educated and give many peoples that
impression.
especially after JBJ resigned and left WP.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Ardeedee,
I am really puzzled sometimes, why you have this impression that
WP
Post by ardeedee
is
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
only
Post by Goh Meng Seng
working for a "Chinese Singapore". Is this a common perception
among
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
your
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
community (or all other minority community)?
No politician in his right mind would put his agenda as "Chinese
Singapore".
Post by Goh Meng Seng
No one could win without the minority support. . In fact, during
the
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
many
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Meet the People Sessions, we have been helping alot of
Singaporeans
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
from
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
minority groups. There are people who we refused to help due to
certain
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
known reasons, and these people include some Chinese as well. It
is
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
easy
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
check out whether what I say is true or not. Just pay a visit to
Hougang
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
MPS.If it is due to the fact that JBJ was "forced" to resign,
then
Post by truth
I
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
think
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
that's unfair to us, the new generation of party workers and
leadership.
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
There are many entangling issues in JBJ's eventual resign. I do
not
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
wish
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
comment on it but if you have the time, I could present you on
what
Post by ardeedee
I
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
learnt
Post by Goh Meng Seng
about the whole issue over tea. But in simple terms, would you
fight
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
for
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
an
Post by Goh Meng Seng
organization which is drowning with someone's doing? JBJ is
suing
Post by truth
WP
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
CEC
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
pay for the defamation damages in which WP CEC has already paid up
half
Post by ardeedee
of
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
it. WP nearly gets wind up by PAP due to this incident.... anyway,
it
Post by truth
is
Post by ardeedee
a
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
long history to go by. But the simple fact is that if WP is really
aiming
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
for "Chinese Singapore", JBJ won't have remained as secretary
general
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
for
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
the past three decades.
However, if there are any other reasons that make you think we are
for
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
"Chinese Singapore", please let me know. I seriously want to learn
about
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
it.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
I thank you for the blessings and I seriously hope that we could
sit
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
down
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
and have a cup of tea, no matter whether I succeed in becoming a
MP.
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
I am sorry but I am completely browned off by political parties
and
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
even
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
by
Post by ardeedee
opposition parties as I have had learning experience.
This is not to denigrate your position or your person as you
obviously
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
mean
Post by ardeedee
well and intend to
be an effective and diligent opposition member.
I am not a racist but I am seeing rising discontent among the
other
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
races
Post by Goh Meng Seng
in
Post by ardeedee
Singapore because we can just see ourselves sinking deeper into
the
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
mire
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
of
Post by ardeedee
poverty and frustration.If we are left with jobs that simply
allow
Post by truth
us
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
to
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
survive on daily basis we cannot raise ourselves up and go
beyond
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
the
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
pale
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
of poverty.
None of us are fools and we can see clearly above the horizons -
we
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
have
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
no
Post by ardeedee
future here unless we are PAP arse kissers or we have a major
luck
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
of
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
draw but to progress on our own volition without having to hold
onto
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
the
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
coat-tails of PAP stalwarts is impossible for we are proud
people
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
and
Post by ardeedee
we
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
see
Post by ardeedee
no reason why we must humiliate ourselves to toady to another
human
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
being
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
whose sole claim to fame is because he is a man in white.
All talk of talent etc is pure bunkum if talent is only in the
eye
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
of
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
the
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
powerful beholders who only see what they want.
I hope you are successful and perhaps one day we will have the
cup
Post by ardeedee
Post by truth
of
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
tea
Post by Goh Meng Seng
or
Post by ardeedee
coffee but unless your party can prove that you have leaders who
are
Post by truth
Post by ardeedee
Post by Lau Niu
Post by Goh Meng Seng
intent
Post by ardeedee
on working for the one united Singapore rather than a Chinese
Singapore
Post by Lau Niu
I
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
will prefer to be on the sidelines. Good luck.
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2004-05-21 05:51:09 UTC
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Post by Lau Niu
May be Low Thia Kiang is Chinese Educated and give many peoples that
impression.
especially after JBJ resigned and left WP.
alamak ,please lar ! this is an era when indigenous Indians had voted an
Italian to be their head.....besides,our first CM was a Jew amongst the
Muslim Malays too....it was only our SM who once publicly stated Dhanabala
was not considered for PM post because of his race...so you see hor ! except
Chinese most and even the rest of the world are indeed quite color blind....

bigotry and racism are there plenty but mostly that melts if you start to
integrate on personal basis....

I do recall once MADCOW gave me this example of 2 friends in need
approaching for help,1 your own race and the other not...he justified tht
its natural , given everything equal,you must help your own race first....I
was aghast....never in my life had I harbored such perceptions....to me a
friend is still a friend and I had even fought for my Chinese friend with my
own kins and kiths...afterall we are all humans ...

so you see,it does not make any difference whether Mr.Low is Chinese
educated or have no education at all...

but what puzzles me is why has WP made its stand unknown about Muslim's
marginalisation in Singapore whereas SDP has.....and what exactly is the
WP's manifesto regarding the minorities status here....I had asked MADCOW
many a times for clarification but he had always conveniently side stepped
or refused or even had offered excuses that he never received my posts...
ardeedee
2004-05-21 05:00:14 UTC
Permalink
The general perception on the ground is that WP is basically going to
support the main race first.This is mainly vote-catching and secondly
because of perceptions and bias.

Such being the case the "others" might as well be with the devil we know
than one we do not which means sticking to the PAP as status quo.

As for JBJ I have my own enounter with him and I am of the considered
opinion based on that encounter that he is an opportunist first.

Maybe one day when you are a lttle more illuminated by politics we can sit
for that cuppa.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Ardeedee,
I am really puzzled sometimes, why you have this impression that WP is only
working for a "Chinese Singapore". Is this a common perception among your
community (or all other minority community)?
No politician in his right mind would put his agenda as "Chinese Singapore".
No one could win without the minority support. . In fact, during the many
Meet the People Sessions, we have been helping alot of Singaporeans from the
minority groups. There are people who we refused to help due to certain
known reasons, and these people include some Chinese as well. It is easy to
check out whether what I say is true or not. Just pay a visit to Hougang
MPS.If it is due to the fact that JBJ was "forced" to resign, then I think
that's unfair to us, the new generation of party workers and leadership.
There are many entangling issues in JBJ's eventual resign. I do not wish to
comment on it but if you have the time, I could present you on what I learnt
about the whole issue over tea. But in simple terms, would you fight for an
organization which is drowning with someone's doing? JBJ is suing WP CEC to
pay for the defamation damages in which WP CEC has already paid up half of
it. WP nearly gets wind up by PAP due to this incident.... anyway, it is a
long history to go by. But the simple fact is that if WP is really aiming
for "Chinese Singapore", JBJ won't have remained as secretary general for
the past three decades.
However, if there are any other reasons that make you think we are for
"Chinese Singapore", please let me know. I seriously want to learn about it.
I thank you for the blessings and I seriously hope that we could sit down
and have a cup of tea, no matter whether I succeed in becoming a MP.
Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
I am sorry but I am completely browned off by political parties and even
by
Post by ardeedee
opposition parties as I have had learning experience.
This is not to denigrate your position or your person as you obviously
mean
Post by ardeedee
well and intend to
be an effective and diligent opposition member.
I am not a racist but I am seeing rising discontent among the other
races
Post by Goh Meng Seng
in
Post by ardeedee
Singapore because we can just see ourselves sinking deeper into the mire
of
Post by ardeedee
poverty and frustration.If we are left with jobs that simply allow us to
survive on daily basis we cannot raise ourselves up and go beyond the pale
of poverty.
None of us are fools and we can see clearly above the horizons - we have
no
Post by ardeedee
future here unless we are PAP arse kissers or we have a major luck of the
draw but to progress on our own volition without having to hold onto the
coat-tails of PAP stalwarts is impossible for we are proud people and we
see
Post by ardeedee
no reason why we must humiliate ourselves to toady to another human being
whose sole claim to fame is because he is a man in white.
All talk of talent etc is pure bunkum if talent is only in the eye of the
powerful beholders who only see what they want.
I hope you are successful and perhaps one day we will have the cup of
tea
Post by Goh Meng Seng
or
Post by ardeedee
coffee but unless your party can prove that you have leaders who are
intent
Post by ardeedee
on working for the one united Singapore rather than a Chinese Singapore I
will prefer to be on the sidelines. Good luck.
Goh Meng Seng
2004-05-21 07:10:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by ardeedee
The general perception on the ground is that WP is basically going to
support the main race first.This is mainly vote-catching and secondly
because of perceptions and bias.
I do not understand. If it applies to us, it should apply to everybody,
including PAP, right?

One cannot be merely live by perceptions. Experience it and you will know
how supportive we are towards the minority groups.
Post by ardeedee
Such being the case the "others" might as well be with the devil we know
than one we do not which means sticking to the PAP as status quo.
This is true to a large extend. The "others" normally are very closely
knitted communities and peer pressure is extremely great on each
individuals. We have tried very hard to reach out to these "others", but
with little success. The enormous effort we spent in talking and sending
feelers into the communities, is much more than our effort in reaching out
to the main race. Thus the perception that we will spend more efforts in
supporting the main race is not true at all.
Post by ardeedee
As for JBJ I have my own enounter with him and I am of the considered
opinion based on that encounter that he is an opportunist first.
I may not have direct encounters with him but from what I see as a
bystander, I don't approve of many of his doings. WP could have been much
stronger if the renewal process took place 5 or 10 years earlier. Much time
has been wasted in restling unnecessary issues.
Post by ardeedee
Maybe one day when you are a lttle more illuminated by politics we can sit
for that cuppa.
Sure. ;)

Goh Meng Seng
ardeedee
2004-05-21 07:16:21 UTC
Permalink
Yes of course but they are the devil we know so might as well stick with
them and their main race supporters are not so hungry now.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by ardeedee
The general perception on the ground is that WP is basically going to
support the main race first.This is mainly vote-catching and secondly
because of perceptions and bias.
I do not understand. If it applies to us, it should apply to everybody,
including PAP, right?
One cannot be merely live by perceptions. Experience it and you will know
how supportive we are towards the minority groups.
Post by ardeedee
Such being the case the "others" might as well be with the devil we know
than one we do not which means sticking to the PAP as status quo.
This is true to a large extend. The "others" normally are very closely
knitted communities and peer pressure is extremely great on each
individuals. We have tried very hard to reach out to these "others", but
with little success. The enormous effort we spent in talking and sending
feelers into the communities, is much more than our effort in reaching out
to the main race. Thus the perception that we will spend more efforts in
supporting the main race is not true at all.
Post by ardeedee
As for JBJ I have my own enounter with him and I am of the considered
opinion based on that encounter that he is an opportunist first.
I may not have direct encounters with him but from what I see as a
bystander, I don't approve of many of his doings. WP could have been much
stronger if the renewal process took place 5 or 10 years earlier. Much time
has been wasted in restling unnecessary issues.
Post by ardeedee
Maybe one day when you are a lttle more illuminated by politics we can sit
for that cuppa.
Sure. ;)
Goh Meng Seng
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2004-05-20 21:54:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it comes to
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you teach me
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your own
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you have went
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights Timed).
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for Versak
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this invitation by
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
so what is the price for my conscience ?...a lavish dinner !....fool ,I had
been courted numerous times for my silence even by your uncle "Calamari",the
right hand man to the Minister who tempted me with wealth.....as I always
had repeated umpteen times here before and also will now that I deal with
issues here not with personalities...I don't deal with people or individuals
I deal with issues and what's your problem that you cannot discuss here
?....

and I do find MADCOW a fake and a phoney and lacks character....I saw
Mr.Heng of Nichol tragedy as a human and fought for him ;MADCOW saw him as a
chinese only than fought for him ....that's our differences...MADCOW had
always cursed that I would suffer by my Karma retribution....let's see who
will be put on the stand now and scrtutinised and quried by the public....it
may even bring his whole party down....

MADCOW had belittled and trivilised the plight of minorities by painting
everyone who raises the issue of chinese racism in singapore by painting and
tarnishing them as racists....its a sad day for Singapore if these are our
future leaders !

well let's see who this Karma thingy will finally comes to haunt ,besides I
always had maintained that its better a knowm devil (PAP) than an unknown
angel (MADCOW) !....we know PAP for what they have done but we don't know
MADCOW for what lurks in his mind !!!
Goh Meng Seng
2004-05-21 02:19:03 UTC
Permalink
Dear Straights Timed,

If you think that your conscience could be bought over by a dinner, then I
have nothing to say! Nobody wants your conscience and it is only recently
when I read your many postings, I realize that here is a man with so much
grievances and anger but at least he fought fiercely (too fiercely most of
the time) for his community. I want your grievances and anger, not your
conscience. Why? You may be right afterall, I may not understand my fellow
Singaporeans of different races due to my past training. I would better
start to learn more about it.

I could offer nothing. Not wealth, for I don't even have much like you, nor
fame, for I have none also. I have been walking around in areas filled with
poverty, before I move on to HK. It makes me think, is there really some
correlations between race and wealth? I have seen wealthy Indians and
Malays, I have seen those in poverty. Unless we get hold on the raw census
data which is so heavily guarded by PAP govt, we may never know. But
perception is something too powerful and destructive.

There is nothing to curse, for karma takes its own course. I am merely
reminding you from time to time. And I am not afraid of your scrutinising.
If you think you could bring me down that easily, think again. I have been
here long enough. I talk straight, unlike you. If it is not for me, you
would still be using all sorts of stupid nicks! I gave you the identity that
you seriously need, unknowing to you. I have never been afraid of your fiery
words, for such, only hurt yourself, not me.

As for racial issues, just look at all your writings! You attack people
because they are Chinese! Of course, you do show your sympathy towards those
disadvantaged or in distress. This is the only good thing I find in you.
However, if there is such an award here "Most Racist Award", nobody else but
you are deserving of it! You think you have perfect skills in
"genearlization" of everything under the sun, but it just shows how
unreasonable you can be.

I do not mind you bringing up "Chinese racism", but it must be reasonable.
And it doesn't give you the god damn right of attacking Chinese in such a
racist way. Most of the time, I dissect the problems with you and it took
pains for me to tell you that whether it is just presumptious generalization
of isolate cases or otherwise. If the future leaders of Singapore are mad
men who would just jump the gun and make all sorts of accusations
(especially racist ones) without proper dissection, you should worry more
about that.

And it is not me that deliberately "tarnish" you as racist; nobody could
define your own self, but you alone. Just look at your writings! I have told
you many times that if you behave like that, whatever "truth" and "concerns"
you brought up would be washed away by your own racist out front. If you are
serious in discussion, do it in proper. There is no need to bring in
personal hatred into it. If you are only interested in ranting and rumbling
away, fine. Talk too much won't bring results in solving your community's
problems, especially in your fiery ways. Imagine if I were to be like you,
ranting away mindlessly, putting in so many loose racial remarks, what will
happen to me? You should know with your experience.

I can only fool somebody some time, or even all people some time, but I
cannot possibly fool all the people all the time. For all the one decade or
so of participation in newsgroup discussions, many friends and even my
opponents, should know me well. As I look back, I am pretty consistent in
what I write and say here; even though I did grow up in the process in many
ways. I have nothing to fear or hide. Some concerned friends ask me whether
I am afraid of having all my past postings being archived and used against
me, I could only smile. I would appreciate people of making archives of my
postings because I have never done it myself. And I would ask them to give
me the whole archive as birthday presents! ;) If you want to look at a
person, you look at him as a whole. Taking things out of context and attack
him is the most despicable ways of dealings. I would challenge them to
provide the FULL archive for everybody to read. It might help me actually,
for people to understand me more in the process!

If you want to sleep with the "known devil", fine. GO ahead, but please,
stop complaining! You are complaining against your own choice? This is
illogical! ;)

In conclusion, I invited you and ardeedee to tea or dinner, not because I
want to "buy your conscience". I just want to learn more about your anger
and grievances which I do not want you to spit it all out here in open forum
like this. This is bad for you. If you decline the offer, fine and there is
no need to have spikes in your answers.



Goh Meng Seng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
so what is the price for my conscience ?...a lavish dinner !....fool ,I had
been courted numerous times for my silence even by your uncle
"Calamari",the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
right hand man to the Minister who tempted me with wealth.....as I always
had repeated umpteen times here before and also will now that I deal with
issues here not with personalities...I don't deal with people or individuals
I deal with issues and what's your problem that you cannot discuss here
?....
and I do find MADCOW a fake and a phoney and lacks character....I saw
Mr.Heng of Nichol tragedy as a human and fought for him ;MADCOW saw him as a
chinese only than fought for him ....that's our differences...MADCOW had
always cursed that I would suffer by my Karma retribution....let's see who
will be put on the stand now and scrtutinised and quried by the public....it
may even bring his whole party down....
MADCOW had belittled and trivilised the plight of minorities by painting
everyone who raises the issue of chinese racism in singapore by painting and
tarnishing them as racists....its a sad day for Singapore if these are our
future leaders !
well let's see who this Karma thingy will finally comes to haunt ,besides I
always had maintained that its better a knowm devil (PAP) than an unknown
angel (MADCOW) !....we know PAP for what they have done but we don't know
MADCOW for what lurks in his mind !!!
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2004-05-21 04:49:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Straights Timed,
If you think that your conscience could be bought over by a dinner, then I
have nothing to say! Nobody wants your conscience and it is only recently
when I read your many postings, I realize that here is a man with so much
grievances and anger but at least he fought fiercely (too fiercely most of
the time) for his community. I want your grievances and anger, not your
conscience. Why? You may be right afterall, I may not understand my fellow
Singaporeans of different races due to my past training. I would better
start to learn more about it.
I could offer nothing. Not wealth, for I don't even have much like you, nor
fame, for I have none also. I have been walking around in areas filled with
poverty, before I move on to HK. It makes me think, is there really some
correlations between race and wealth? I have seen wealthy Indians and
Malays, I have seen those in poverty. Unless we get hold on the raw census
data which is so heavily guarded by PAP govt, we may never know. But
perception is something too powerful and destructive.
There is nothing to curse, for karma takes its own course. I am merely
reminding you from time to time. And I am not afraid of your scrutinising.
If you think you could bring me down that easily, think again. I have been
here long enough. I talk straight, unlike you. If it is not for me, you
would still be using all sorts of stupid nicks! I gave you the identity that
you seriously need, unknowing to you. I have never been afraid of your fiery
words, for such, only hurt yourself, not me.
As for racial issues, just look at all your writings! You attack people
because they are Chinese! Of course, you do show your sympathy towards those
disadvantaged or in distress. This is the only good thing I find in you.
However, if there is such an award here "Most Racist Award", nobody else but
you are deserving of it! You think you have perfect skills in
"genearlization" of everything under the sun, but it just shows how
unreasonable you can be.
I do not mind you bringing up "Chinese racism", but it must be reasonable.
And it doesn't give you the god damn right of attacking Chinese in such a
racist way. Most of the time, I dissect the problems with you and it took
pains for me to tell you that whether it is just presumptious
generalization
Post by Goh Meng Seng
of isolate cases or otherwise. If the future leaders of Singapore are mad
men who would just jump the gun and make all sorts of accusations
(especially racist ones) without proper dissection, you should worry more
about that.
And it is not me that deliberately "tarnish" you as racist; nobody could
define your own self, but you alone. Just look at your writings! I have told
you many times that if you behave like that, whatever "truth" and "concerns"
you brought up would be washed away by your own racist out front. If you are
serious in discussion, do it in proper. There is no need to bring in
personal hatred into it. If you are only interested in ranting and rumbling
away, fine. Talk too much won't bring results in solving your community's
problems, especially in your fiery ways. Imagine if I were to be like you,
ranting away mindlessly, putting in so many loose racial remarks, what will
happen to me? You should know with your experience.
I can only fool somebody some time, or even all people some time, but I
cannot possibly fool all the people all the time. For all the one decade or
so of participation in newsgroup discussions, many friends and even my
opponents, should know me well. As I look back, I am pretty consistent in
what I write and say here; even though I did grow up in the process in many
ways. I have nothing to fear or hide. Some concerned friends ask me whether
I am afraid of having all my past postings being archived and used against
me, I could only smile. I would appreciate people of making archives of my
postings because I have never done it myself. And I would ask them to give
me the whole archive as birthday presents! ;) If you want to look at a
person, you look at him as a whole. Taking things out of context and attack
him is the most despicable ways of dealings. I would challenge them to
provide the FULL archive for everybody to read. It might help me actually,
for people to understand me more in the process!
If you want to sleep with the "known devil", fine. GO ahead, but please,
stop complaining! You are complaining against your own choice? This is
illogical! ;)
In conclusion, I invited you and ardeedee to tea or dinner, not because I
want to "buy your conscience". I just want to learn more about your anger
and grievances which I do not want you to spit it all out here in open forum
like this. This is bad for you. If you decline the offer, fine and there is
no need to have spikes in your answers.
Goh Meng Seng
the major hallmark of politician is his ability to vile lie obfuscate and
white wash the truth ; MADCOW has this ability...why ? can whisky and soda
mix ! YES but can whisky and milk mix ! NO...that's how I see this racially
segregated SAP schooled MADCOW playing a cross between a Buddhist monk and a
politician....

so,it suddenly it had downed on our poor lil cow that afterall we are
talking truth about Chinese racism in Singapore eh ?....why ! is it because
election
is around the corner and Chinese racist just can't kiss Malays and Indian's
babies for votes while spewing Chinese racism hor !

who are you kidding here ?...that you must get the guarded census only than
to be
aware of minorities abuse by majority Chinese in Singapore ! if so on what
basis were you consistently defending Chinese racism for more than 10 years
?......why look for census why not in this forum itself ! SHOW ME ONE POST
OF MADCOW"S THAT TOOK CHINESE RACISTS TO TASK IN THIS FORUM !......but
MADCOW WAS
extremely very eager and quick and enthusiastic to pin racist label on non
Chinese...WHY WHY WHY......

look around ,who is bad mouthing minorities,Indians,Malays and Muslims day
in and day out in this forum? ....Chinese ! and of course some Hindus but
mostly Chinese...so if I refute that why should you Chinese stick your
fingers into other asses and shouting it stinks but do try to stick into
your own ass and see how it stinks worse than I become a racist hor !.....if
so WHERE ARE YOUR POSTS TAKING THIS SAME CHINESE RACISTS TO TASK ?....

besides,why do you chose not answer my query about the different stand by WP
and SDP in bringing up the Muslim marginalisation just 2 posts ago? ANSWER
ME THIS !

the racist Chinese posters had me concluded that we minorities would be
worse off under their kinds.....be warned MADCOW that you have in me a
very motivated and a very formidable person who is going to take people like
you head on....in all
forums online as well as any that I deem fit.....from now onwards...there is
a greater urgency to stop Chinese racists seizing power in Singapore....why
should we drop from a boiling pot into the fire itself ?....and give
legitimacy to Chinese racism in Singapore........!!!
Winter
2004-05-21 17:02:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Straights Timed,
If you think that your conscience could be bought over by a dinner, then I
have nothing to say! Nobody wants your conscience and it is only recently
when I read your many postings, I realize that here is a man with so much
grievances and anger but at least he fought fiercely (too fiercely most of
the time) for his community. I want your grievances and anger, not your
conscience. Why? You may be right afterall, I may not understand my fellow
Singaporeans of different races due to my past training. I would better
start to learn more about it.
Straights Timed has his own views and he is always right, so let him
be. There are many Indians or Malays or other minorities out there
whom you can reach out and listen to... and that you would get a more
balanced feedback. Let your real actions speak.
Observer
2004-05-21 21:45:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Winter
Straights Timed has his own views and he is always right, so let him
be. There are many Indians or Malays or other minorities out there
whom you can reach out and listen to... and that you would get a more
balanced feedback.
Is this the same type of feedback where
a moron calls them "keling kia" and then
conclude that they liked being called that
because they did not protest and looked
like smiling?
LOL.
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2004-05-22 01:13:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Winter
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Straights Timed,
If you think that your conscience could be bought over by a dinner, then I
have nothing to say! Nobody wants your conscience and it is only recently
when I read your many postings, I realize that here is a man with so much
grievances and anger but at least he fought fiercely (too fiercely most of
the time) for his community. I want your grievances and anger, not your
conscience. Why? You may be right afterall, I may not understand my fellow
Singaporeans of different races due to my past training. I would better
start to learn more about it.
Straights Timed has his own views and he is always right, so let him
be. There are many Indians or Malays or other minorities out there
whom you can reach out and listen to... and that you would get a more
balanced feedback. Let your real actions speak.
alamak ! I am not a PAP lar ,always must be right one ok....why not MADCOW
rebuts me instead ?...see,he never answers why he so enthusiastic calling
non Chinese racists but never once a Chinese racist as one !....I had
repeatedly asked him why SDP see Muslims as marginalized but nothing heard
from WP on this issue ;also no answer.....MADCOW also like PAP lar hiding
away from truths....
Lau Niu
2004-05-22 01:44:40 UTC
Permalink
Because SDP have nothing else to talk.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by Winter
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Straights Timed,
If you think that your conscience could be bought over by a dinner,
then
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I
Post by Winter
Post by Goh Meng Seng
have nothing to say! Nobody wants your conscience and it is only
recently
Post by Winter
Post by Goh Meng Seng
when I read your many postings, I realize that here is a man with so
much
Post by Winter
Post by Goh Meng Seng
grievances and anger but at least he fought fiercely (too fiercely
most
Post by Goh Meng Seng
of
Post by Winter
Post by Goh Meng Seng
the time) for his community. I want your grievances and anger, not your
conscience. Why? You may be right afterall, I may not understand my
fellow
Post by Winter
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Singaporeans of different races due to my past training. I would better
start to learn more about it.
Straights Timed has his own views and he is always right, so let him
be. There are many Indians or Malays or other minorities out there
whom you can reach out and listen to... and that you would get a more
balanced feedback. Let your real actions speak.
alamak ! I am not a PAP lar ,always must be right one ok....why not MADCOW
rebuts me instead ?...see,he never answers why he so enthusiastic calling
non Chinese racists but never once a Chinese racist as one !....I had
repeatedly asked him why SDP see Muslims as marginalized but nothing heard
from WP on this issue ;also no answer.....MADCOW also like PAP lar hiding
away from truths....
Goh Meng Seng
2004-05-22 02:15:49 UTC
Permalink
Dear Straights Timed,

I chose not to reply not because I can't reply. But by replying will make
you do more "mistakes" of putting forth a racist front, why reply? You
decline the invitation already, so be it.

Goh Meng Seng
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Post by Winter
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Straights Timed,
If you think that your conscience could be bought over by a dinner,
then
Post by Goh Meng Seng
I
Post by Winter
Post by Goh Meng Seng
have nothing to say! Nobody wants your conscience and it is only
recently
Post by Winter
Post by Goh Meng Seng
when I read your many postings, I realize that here is a man with so
much
Post by Winter
Post by Goh Meng Seng
grievances and anger but at least he fought fiercely (too fiercely
most
Post by Goh Meng Seng
of
Post by Winter
Post by Goh Meng Seng
the time) for his community. I want your grievances and anger, not your
conscience. Why? You may be right afterall, I may not understand my
fellow
Post by Winter
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Singaporeans of different races due to my past training. I would better
start to learn more about it.
Straights Timed has his own views and he is always right, so let him
be. There are many Indians or Malays or other minorities out there
whom you can reach out and listen to... and that you would get a more
balanced feedback. Let your real actions speak.
alamak ! I am not a PAP lar ,always must be right one ok....why not MADCOW
rebuts me instead ?...see,he never answers why he so enthusiastic calling
non Chinese racists but never once a Chinese racist as one !....I had
repeatedly asked him why SDP see Muslims as marginalized but nothing heard
from WP on this issue ;also no answer.....MADCOW also like PAP lar hiding
away from truths....
The Bishop
2004-05-22 02:32:41 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 22 May 2004 10:15:49 +0800, "Goh Meng Seng"
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Straights Timed,
I chose not to reply not because I can't reply. But by replying will make
you do more "mistakes" of putting forth a racist front, why reply? You
decline the invitation already, so be it.
At the rate this is going, there would have been 3 orders of rendang
and gado-gado waiting on the table for 6 hours. Is it because the
chilling is too hot, or you guys cannot eat beef. or maybe just plain
shy of eating in front of each. But I think it is a good idea that
you all settle for KFC vouchers, that way it can be eaten a home and
the fingers can also cover your faces while you eat ..... :))
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2004-05-22 04:52:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Straights Timed,
I chose not to reply not because I can't reply. But by replying will make
you do more "mistakes" of putting forth a racist front, why reply? You
decline the invitation already, so be it.
Goh Meng Seng
its a matter of choice eh ?....why than are you here whining all over this
newsgroup and especially in a thread which YOU intimated yourself for
me?.....don't you have the common decency to answer me when I duly reply to
the very thread you opened to vilify me ?....

...and you are telling this whole group you are worried that not only I
made mistakes all the time but will make more mistakes eh ! if you were so
fucken concerned about my welfare why than you chose to vilify me at every
one of your posts ?..you are certainly rubbing salt on the wounds and I am
becoming more and more determined to vindicate this wrong you had slurred
on me....

I am willing to take lessons from you if you can prove your worth and what
can 30 year old novice in life can teach this seasoned man who had eaten
more salt (metaphor) than you and your entire family put together ?

now,wasn't it the PAP who ais lways telling us that they are right and they
know best and they choose not to reply whereas they demand the right of
reply ? ...you are indeed saying the same ;why should I listen to a PAP
wannebe ?
Lau Niu
2004-05-23 07:58:04 UTC
Permalink
So much salt, beware of high blood pressure eh!
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
I am willing to take lessons from you if you can prove your worth and what
can 30 year old novice in life can teach this seasoned man who had eaten
more salt (metaphor) than you and your entire family put together ?
Goh Meng Seng
2004-05-23 12:16:13 UTC
Permalink
It is a matter of choice. I have already reply to your response to my
initial invitation out of coutesy, even though your post is filled with
poisons and spikes. No problem on that. But your subsequent vicious attacks
against me, I chose not to reply and there is no more obligation for me to
reply to any of your unreasonable remarks at all.

Respect is does not automatic come with age. You are older but not wiser.

Goh Meng Seng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Dear Straights Timed,
I chose not to reply not because I can't reply. But by replying will make
you do more "mistakes" of putting forth a racist front, why reply? You
decline the invitation already, so be it.
Goh Meng Seng
its a matter of choice eh ?....why than are you here whining all over this
newsgroup and especially in a thread which YOU intimated yourself for
me?.....don't you have the common decency to answer me when I duly reply to
the very thread you opened to vilify me ?....
...and you are telling this whole group you are worried that not only I
made mistakes all the time but will make more mistakes eh ! if you were so
fucken concerned about my welfare why than you chose to vilify me at every
one of your posts ?..you are certainly rubbing salt on the wounds and I am
becoming more and more determined to vindicate this wrong you had slurred
on me....
I am willing to take lessons from you if you can prove your worth and what
can 30 year old novice in life can teach this seasoned man who had eaten
more salt (metaphor) than you and your entire family put together ?
now,wasn't it the PAP who ais lways telling us that they are right and they
know best and they choose not to reply whereas they demand the right of
reply ? ...you are indeed saying the same ;why should I listen to a PAP
wannebe ?
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2004-05-23 13:48:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by Goh Meng Seng
It is a matter of choice. I have already reply to your response to my
initial invitation out of coutesy, even though your post is filled with
poisons and spikes. No problem on that. But your subsequent vicious attacks
against me, I chose not to reply and there is no more obligation for me to
reply to any of your unreasonable remarks at all.
Respect is does not automatic come with age. You are older but not wiser.
Goh Meng Seng
fool ! I always fore warn posters before delivering them the punch
line....obviously , you are not up it and did I said I am awesome ?...Oh,yes
I did ! LOL...........why hor ?....that's because I already had pre empted
you.....I bet you had xxxxxxxxxxx.....did I not ask you will this poster
will now denounce all his past posts as in his nick as "MADCOW" ?.....you
duly replied NO !.....that you and what you posted as the MADCOW are the
same

....with it goes all that you had previously vilified me including every one
of your insults,taunts and defamations....so,your amateurish attempt to
avoid answering me is simply telling on you.....

you started this thread for me....I replied...its decent and also the
netiquette of Usenet to answer me but you chose not to.....its your choice
alright but not in the eyes of the law....silence is also construed as
admission of guilt....
Georg Ng
2004-05-22 02:16:14 UTC
Permalink
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't? Is that why the
Germans continued to support Hitler and blind their conscience to the
persecution of the Jews? Or the Iraqis who supported Saddam Hussein
so long as they themselves are not victimised? Is that why those in
landed property turned a blind eye when the Prime Minister threatened
to turn into slums the HBD dwellers who dared to try vote in the
opposition? Do we still want to maintain the status quo of double
standards? Lee Kuan Yew says it's natural for the char kawy teow
seller to give him an extra egg for his portion, but we normal
peasants can be called up for corruption for less. Did not Chee Soon
Juan lose his job because of a $10 courier charge? Yet nobody dares
talk about Mrs Yeo Cheow Tong's handling of the 69 Holland Road
property transaction. IMHO, the straw broke when the police found
evidence of downloaded pornographic material in a Member of
Parliament's personal computer and yet was let off with a verbal
warning because of politics. Anything got to be better than this
state of affairs. Hence, the One Who Used To Be Called Madcow ( or
anyone else not wearing white) deserves to be heard.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it comes to
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you teach me
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your own
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you have
went
Post by Goh Meng Seng
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights Timed).
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for Versak
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this invitation by
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
so what is the price for my conscience ?...a lavish dinner !....fool ,I had
been courted numerous times for my silence even by your uncle "Calamari",the
right hand man to the Minister who tempted me with wealth.....as I always
had repeated umpteen times here before and also will now that I deal with
issues here not with personalities...I don't deal with people or individuals
I deal with issues and what's your problem that you cannot discuss here
?....
and I do find MADCOW a fake and a phoney and lacks character....I saw
Mr.Heng of Nichol tragedy as a human and fought for him ;MADCOW saw him as a
chinese only than fought for him ....that's our differences...MADCOW had
always cursed that I would suffer by my Karma retribution....let's see who
will be put on the stand now and scrtutinised and quried by the public....it
may even bring his whole party down....
MADCOW had belittled and trivilised the plight of minorities by painting
everyone who raises the issue of chinese racism in singapore by painting and
tarnishing them as racists....its a sad day for Singapore if these are our
future leaders !
well let's see who this Karma thingy will finally comes to haunt ,besides I
always had maintained that its better a knowm devil (PAP) than an unknown
angel (MADCOW) !....we know PAP for what they have done but we don't know
MADCOW for what lurks in his mind !!!
ardeedee
2004-05-22 02:41:27 UTC
Permalink
Yes we must elect opposition MPs who have the guts of their convictions and
can be lucid and verbose in their arguments and presentations.

If they are willing to be economically destroyed for us we will vote for
them - but guts must be present and honesty to ensure they carry out what
they intend.

The PAP cannot be allowed to continue being rampant - at least 5
oppositionists in Parliament next elections must be our aim.
Post by Georg Ng
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't? Is that why the
Germans continued to support Hitler and blind their conscience to the
persecution of the Jews? Or the Iraqis who supported Saddam Hussein
so long as they themselves are not victimised? Is that why those in
landed property turned a blind eye when the Prime Minister threatened
to turn into slums the HBD dwellers who dared to try vote in the
opposition? Do we still want to maintain the status quo of double
standards? Lee Kuan Yew says it's natural for the char kawy teow
seller to give him an extra egg for his portion, but we normal
peasants can be called up for corruption for less. Did not Chee Soon
Juan lose his job because of a $10 courier charge? Yet nobody dares
talk about Mrs Yeo Cheow Tong's handling of the 69 Holland Road
property transaction. IMHO, the straw broke when the police found
evidence of downloaded pornographic material in a Member of
Parliament's personal computer and yet was let off with a verbal
warning because of politics. Anything got to be better than this
state of affairs. Hence, the One Who Used To Be Called Madcow ( or
anyone else not wearing white) deserves to be heard.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it comes to
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you teach me
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your own
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you have
went
Post by Goh Meng Seng
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights Timed).
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for Versak
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this invitation by
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
so what is the price for my conscience ?...a lavish dinner !....fool ,I had
been courted numerous times for my silence even by your uncle "Calamari",the
right hand man to the Minister who tempted me with wealth.....as I always
had repeated umpteen times here before and also will now that I deal with
issues here not with personalities...I don't deal with people or individuals
I deal with issues and what's your problem that you cannot discuss here
?....
and I do find MADCOW a fake and a phoney and lacks character....I saw
Mr.Heng of Nichol tragedy as a human and fought for him ;MADCOW saw him as a
chinese only than fought for him ....that's our differences...MADCOW had
always cursed that I would suffer by my Karma retribution....let's see who
will be put on the stand now and scrtutinised and quried by the public....it
may even bring his whole party down....
MADCOW had belittled and trivilised the plight of minorities by painting
everyone who raises the issue of chinese racism in singapore by painting and
tarnishing them as racists....its a sad day for Singapore if these are our
future leaders !
well let's see who this Karma thingy will finally comes to haunt ,besides I
always had maintained that its better a knowm devil (PAP) than an unknown
angel (MADCOW) !....we know PAP for what they have done but we don't know
MADCOW for what lurks in his mind !!!
Lau Niu
2004-05-23 08:08:34 UTC
Permalink
Why 5?
One GRC already 6.
We should try Marine Parade GRC, the funniest GRC
It covers Marine Parade to Braddel Height.
Even when GCT is the PM, the "upgrading" can be "degrading"
so when he step-down as PM, the peoples may vote for opposition.
Post by ardeedee
Yes we must elect opposition MPs who have the guts of their convictions and
can be lucid and verbose in their arguments and presentations.
If they are willing to be economically destroyed for us we will vote for
them - but guts must be present and honesty to ensure they carry out what
they intend.
The PAP cannot be allowed to continue being rampant - at least 5
oppositionists in Parliament next elections must be our aim.
Post by Georg Ng
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't? Is that why the
Germans continued to support Hitler and blind their conscience to the
persecution of the Jews? Or the Iraqis who supported Saddam Hussein
so long as they themselves are not victimised? Is that why those in
landed property turned a blind eye when the Prime Minister threatened
to turn into slums the HBD dwellers who dared to try vote in the
opposition? Do we still want to maintain the status quo of double
standards? Lee Kuan Yew says it's natural for the char kawy teow
seller to give him an extra egg for his portion, but we normal
peasants can be called up for corruption for less. Did not Chee Soon
Juan lose his job because of a $10 courier charge? Yet nobody dares
talk about Mrs Yeo Cheow Tong's handling of the 69 Holland Road
property transaction. IMHO, the straw broke when the police found
evidence of downloaded pornographic material in a Member of
Parliament's personal computer and yet was let off with a verbal
warning because of politics. Anything got to be better than this
state of affairs. Hence, the One Who Used To Be Called Madcow ( or
anyone else not wearing white) deserves to be heard.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it
comes
Post by ardeedee
to
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you
teach me
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your
own
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you have
went
Post by Goh Meng Seng
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights Timed).
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for
Versak
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this
invitation by
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
so what is the price for my conscience ?...a lavish dinner !....fool
,I
Post by ardeedee
had
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
been courted numerous times for my silence even by your uncle
"Calamari",the
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
right hand man to the Minister who tempted me with wealth.....as I
always
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
had repeated umpteen times here before and also will now that I deal
with
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
issues here not with personalities...I don't deal with people or
individuals
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
I deal with issues and what's your problem that you cannot discuss here
?....
and I do find MADCOW a fake and a phoney and lacks character....I saw
Mr.Heng of Nichol tragedy as a human and fought for him ;MADCOW saw
him
Post by ardeedee
as a
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
chinese only than fought for him ....that's our differences...MADCOW had
always cursed that I would suffer by my Karma retribution....let's
see
Post by ardeedee
who
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
will be put on the stand now and scrtutinised and quried by the
public....it
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
may even bring his whole party down....
MADCOW had belittled and trivilised the plight of minorities by painting
everyone who raises the issue of chinese racism in singapore by
painting
Post by ardeedee
and
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
tarnishing them as racists....its a sad day for Singapore if these are
our
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
future leaders !
well let's see who this Karma thingy will finally comes to haunt
,besides I
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
always had maintained that its better a knowm devil (PAP) than an
unknown
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
angel (MADCOW) !....we know PAP for what they have done but we don't
know
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
MADCOW for what lurks in his mind !!!
ardeedee
2004-05-23 18:57:19 UTC
Permalink
When he steps down it will not be a GRC - get it?
Post by Lau Niu
Why 5?
One GRC already 6.
We should try Marine Parade GRC, the funniest GRC
It covers Marine Parade to Braddel Height.
Even when GCT is the PM, the "upgrading" can be "degrading"
so when he step-down as PM, the peoples may vote for opposition.
Post by ardeedee
Yes we must elect opposition MPs who have the guts of their convictions
and
Post by ardeedee
can be lucid and verbose in their arguments and presentations.
If they are willing to be economically destroyed for us we will vote for
them - but guts must be present and honesty to ensure they carry out what
they intend.
The PAP cannot be allowed to continue being rampant - at least 5
oppositionists in Parliament next elections must be our aim.
Post by Georg Ng
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't? Is that why the
Germans continued to support Hitler and blind their conscience to the
persecution of the Jews? Or the Iraqis who supported Saddam Hussein
so long as they themselves are not victimised? Is that why those in
landed property turned a blind eye when the Prime Minister threatened
to turn into slums the HBD dwellers who dared to try vote in the
opposition? Do we still want to maintain the status quo of double
standards? Lee Kuan Yew says it's natural for the char kawy teow
seller to give him an extra egg for his portion, but we normal
peasants can be called up for corruption for less. Did not Chee Soon
Juan lose his job because of a $10 courier charge? Yet nobody dares
talk about Mrs Yeo Cheow Tong's handling of the 69 Holland Road
property transaction. IMHO, the straw broke when the police found
evidence of downloaded pornographic material in a Member of
Parliament's personal computer and yet was let off with a verbal
warning because of politics. Anything got to be better than this
state of affairs. Hence, the One Who Used To Be Called Madcow ( or
anyone else not wearing white) deserves to be heard.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it
comes
Post by ardeedee
to
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you
teach me
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your
own
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you
have
Post by ardeedee
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
went
Post by Goh Meng Seng
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights
Timed).
Post by ardeedee
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for
Versak
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this
invitation by
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Goh Meng Seng
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
so what is the price for my conscience ?...a lavish dinner !....fool
,I
Post by ardeedee
had
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
been courted numerous times for my silence even by your uncle
"Calamari",the
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
right hand man to the Minister who tempted me with wealth.....as I
always
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
had repeated umpteen times here before and also will now that I deal
with
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
issues here not with personalities...I don't deal with people or
individuals
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
I deal with issues and what's your problem that you cannot discuss
here
Post by ardeedee
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
?....
and I do find MADCOW a fake and a phoney and lacks character....I saw
Mr.Heng of Nichol tragedy as a human and fought for him ;MADCOW saw
him
Post by ardeedee
as a
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
chinese only than fought for him ....that's our differences...MADCOW
had
Post by ardeedee
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
always cursed that I would suffer by my Karma retribution....let's
see
Post by ardeedee
who
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
will be put on the stand now and scrtutinised and quried by the
public....it
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
may even bring his whole party down....
MADCOW had belittled and trivilised the plight of minorities by
painting
Post by ardeedee
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
everyone who raises the issue of chinese racism in singapore by
painting
Post by ardeedee
and
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
tarnishing them as racists....its a sad day for Singapore if these are
our
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
future leaders !
well let's see who this Karma thingy will finally comes to haunt
,besides I
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
always had maintained that its better a knowm devil (PAP) than an
unknown
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
angel (MADCOW) !....we know PAP for what they have done but we don't
know
Post by Georg Ng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
MADCOW for what lurks in his mind !!!
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2004-05-22 04:51:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by Georg Ng
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't? Is that why the
Germans continued to support Hitler and blind their conscience to the
persecution of the Jews? Or the Iraqis who supported Saddam Hussein
so long as they themselves are not victimised? Is that why those in
landed property turned a blind eye when the Prime Minister threatened
to turn into slums the HBD dwellers who dared to try vote in the
opposition? Do we still want to maintain the status quo of double
standards? Lee Kuan Yew says it's natural for the char kawy teow
seller to give him an extra egg for his portion, but we normal
peasants can be called up for corruption for less. Did not Chee Soon
Juan lose his job because of a $10 courier charge? Yet nobody dares
talk about Mrs Yeo Cheow Tong's handling of the 69 Holland Road
property transaction. IMHO, the straw broke when the police found
evidence of downloaded pornographic material in a Member of
Parliament's personal computer and yet was let off with a verbal
warning because of politics. Anything got to be better than this
state of affairs. Hence, the One Who Used To Be Called Madcow ( or
anyone else not wearing white) deserves to be heard.
sure ! MADCOW deserves to be heard...he is being heard here for than 10
years.....a pretty loud voice I must say....but what about us Mr.
Ng?...every time when we raise about Chinese racism here MADCOW always jumps
to his feet to silence us....why have you not asked him why?

besides MADCOW had repeatedly asserted that the minority races are enjoying
life under PAP at the expense of majority Chinese race in Singapore...so
what will happen to us if these people capture power in Singapore ? ethnic
cleansing ?is that too far fetched ? NO! why ? you see the so called
freedom fighters like 'truth' says Muslims are like bad tooth that ought to
be removed and our virgin contractor w.o.r.l.d.p.i.s.s would probably rape
Muslim girls in retaliation everytme some terrorist kills some body in the
middle east....of course our mother fucker 'Ethical egoist' asserts its an
endearment to call indians 'kelings'..'Bad boy 'of course wants Malays
purged from the entire universe....do MADCOW takes them to task ? NO NO
NO.....and these are his supporters !!! ...Sheeesh...

so what is in store for us minorities after such people seize power in
singapore.!...now do you understand why a known devil is better than an
unknown angel ?
truth
2004-05-21 08:08:18 UTC
Permalink
Don't waste your time on Indian Muslim. They are
so small in number that you might as well consider
them irrelevant. They are trouble maker with split
identity. Neither Indian nor Arab.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it comes to
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you teach me
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your own
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you have went
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights Timed).
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for Versak
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this invitation by
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2004-05-21 08:50:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by truth
Don't waste your time on Indian Muslim. They are
so small in number that you might as well consider
them irrelevant. They are trouble maker with split
identity. Neither Indian nor Arab.
really hor ! it just took 1 and the entire south asia became an Islamic
nation...and today Indonesia is the largest Muslim nation on this
earth....now who else but a Mahathir Kutty just 1 such descendent who
changed the entire Malaysian history....

Indian Muslim were the ones beside Asoka to have united India as one and
ruled it for 800 years....nobody else did....today its brightest and
brainiest acclaimed in India is one Dr.Abdul Kalaam,its top sports
personalities and almost all its bollywood hunks are also the same...its
accliamed artist and also music director also happens to be one....you are
just a friggin ravin lunatic and a sour grape too....
truth
2004-05-21 12:54:42 UTC
Permalink
Not read. Not interested in a self confessed, convicted racial
trouble maker.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by truth
Don't waste your time on Indian Muslim. They are
so small in number that you might as well consider
them irrelevant. They are trouble maker with split
identity. Neither Indian nor Arab.
really hor ! it just took 1 and the entire south asia became an Islamic
nation...and today Indonesia is the largest Muslim nation on this
earth....now who else but a Mahathir Kutty just 1 such descendent who
changed the entire Malaysian history....
Indian Muslim were the ones beside Asoka to have united India as one and
ruled it for 800 years....nobody else did....today its brightest and
brainiest acclaimed in India is one Dr.Abdul Kalaam,its top sports
personalities and almost all its bollywood hunks are also the same...its
accliamed artist and also music director also happens to be one....you are
just a friggin ravin lunatic and a sour grape too....
Lau Niu
2004-05-22 01:50:54 UTC
Permalink
Then go back to your "kelengstan'
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by truth
Don't waste your time on Indian Muslim. They are
so small in number that you might as well consider
them irrelevant. They are trouble maker with split
identity. Neither Indian nor Arab.
really hor ! it just took 1 and the entire south asia became an Islamic
nation...and today Indonesia is the largest Muslim nation on this
earth....now who else but a Mahathir Kutty just 1 such descendent who
changed the entire Malaysian history....
Indian Muslim were the ones beside Asoka to have united India as one and
ruled it for 800 years....nobody else did....today its brightest and
brainiest acclaimed in India is one Dr.Abdul Kalaam,its top sports
personalities and almost all its bollywood hunks are also the same...its
accliamed artist and also music director also happens to be one....you are
just a friggin ravin lunatic and a sour grape too....
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2004-05-22 05:06:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lau Niu
Then go back to your "kelengstan'
fool ! where do you think you are right now? LOL
t***@notrashmagix.com.sg
2004-05-23 12:00:12 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 21 May 2004 16:50:19 +0800, "STRAIGHTS TIMED"
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
really hor ! it just took 1 and the entire south asia became an Islamic
nation...and today Indonesia is the largest Muslim nation on this
earth....now who else but a Mahathir Kutty just 1 such descendent who
changed the entire Malaysian history....
Indian Muslim were the ones beside Asoka to have united India as one and
ruled it for 800 years....nobody else did....today its brightest and
brainiest acclaimed in India is one Dr.Abdul Kalaam,its top sports
personalities and almost all its bollywood hunks are also the same...its
accliamed artist and also music director also happens to be one....you are
just a friggin ravin lunatic and a sour grape too....
They united India all right. By how many innocent souls were murdered
in the process just because they failed to embrace Islam? If some new
power that be were to put a gun at your head - no-...that was not how
the Muslims did it - just pull out the nails from your fingers and
toes, hang Sikhs by their hair, immerse others in boiling oil, etc,
tell me, how many would protest? If Genghis Khan had invaded India,
and committed the same atrocities, by forcing everyone to be whatever
Mongolian religion he believed in, your ancestors would have followed
suit, and today you would be following that same religion, because
that was exactly how they became muslims.You are so proud of the
barbaric ways used by those Mughal rulers. And yet cry out that others
are racist. Is it because they are so much more humane and it makes
you feel all rotten inside?

You talk about Madcow not crying out when he sees traces of racist
chinese on scs. But have you, in return, cried out against all the
atrocities carried out by your Islamic terrorists? Which is far worse?
Those on scs have not taken even a single life, in fact, not even hurt
a single hair on your head.How true it is that whenever you point a
finger at another person, three fingers point back at you.

And if you choose to view 'bayee' is an endearing term, so do others
have a right to take a similar view with the word 'keling'.


SIAOGU

The husband is the head of the house. The wife is the neck. And the neck turns the head.
Lau Niu
2004-05-23 12:36:11 UTC
Permalink
That's the problem with some peoples who complained being discriminated.
They think that the whole world owe them a living.
Only they have the right to use the word fxxk.
Post by t***@notrashmagix.com.sg
On Fri, 21 May 2004 16:50:19 +0800, "STRAIGHTS TIMED"
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
really hor ! it just took 1 and the entire south asia became an Islamic
nation...and today Indonesia is the largest Muslim nation on this
earth....now who else but a Mahathir Kutty just 1 such descendent who
changed the entire Malaysian history....
Indian Muslim were the ones beside Asoka to have united India as one and
ruled it for 800 years....nobody else did....today its brightest and
brainiest acclaimed in India is one Dr.Abdul Kalaam,its top sports
personalities and almost all its bollywood hunks are also the same...its
accliamed artist and also music director also happens to be one....you are
just a friggin ravin lunatic and a sour grape too....
They united India all right. By how many innocent souls were murdered
in the process just because they failed to embrace Islam? If some new
power that be were to put a gun at your head - no-...that was not how
the Muslims did it - just pull out the nails from your fingers and
toes, hang Sikhs by their hair, immerse others in boiling oil, etc,
tell me, how many would protest? If Genghis Khan had invaded India,
and committed the same atrocities, by forcing everyone to be whatever
Mongolian religion he believed in, your ancestors would have followed
suit, and today you would be following that same religion, because
that was exactly how they became muslims.You are so proud of the
barbaric ways used by those Mughal rulers. And yet cry out that others
are racist. Is it because they are so much more humane and it makes
you feel all rotten inside?
You talk about Madcow not crying out when he sees traces of racist
chinese on scs. But have you, in return, cried out against all the
atrocities carried out by your Islamic terrorists? Which is far worse?
Those on scs have not taken even a single life, in fact, not even hurt
a single hair on your head.How true it is that whenever you point a
finger at another person, three fingers point back at you.
And if you choose to view 'bayee' is an endearing term, so do others
have a right to take a similar view with the word 'keling'.
SIAOGU
The husband is the head of the house. The wife is the neck. And the neck turns the head.
Observer
2004-05-23 12:40:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lau Niu
That's the problem with some peoples who complained being discriminated.
They think that the whole world owe them a living.
Agreed.
But they have the right to demand
a level playing field.
Unless you think even that is not
a right.
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2004-05-23 14:18:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by t***@notrashmagix.com.sg
On Fri, 21 May 2004 16:50:19 +0800, "STRAIGHTS TIMED"
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
really hor ! it just took 1 and the entire south asia became an Islamic
nation...and today Indonesia is the largest Muslim nation on this
earth....now who else but a Mahathir Kutty just 1 such descendent who
changed the entire Malaysian history....
Indian Muslim were the ones beside Asoka to have united India as one and
ruled it for 800 years....nobody else did....today its brightest and
brainiest acclaimed in India is one Dr.Abdul Kalaam,its top sports
personalities and almost all its bollywood hunks are also the same...its
accliamed artist and also music director also happens to be one....you are
just a friggin ravin lunatic and a sour grape too....
They united India all right. By how many innocent souls were murdered
in the process just because they failed to embrace Islam? If some new
power that be were to put a gun at your head - no-...that was not how
the Muslims did it - just pull out the nails from your fingers and
toes, hang Sikhs by their hair, immerse others in boiling oil, etc,
tell me, how many would protest? If Genghis Khan had invaded India,
and committed the same atrocities, by forcing everyone to be whatever
Mongolian religion he believed in, your ancestors would have followed
suit, and today you would be following that same religion, because
that was exactly how they became muslims.You are so proud of the
barbaric ways used by those Mughal rulers. And yet cry out that others
are racist. Is it because they are so much more humane and it makes
you feel all rotten inside?
You talk about Madcow not crying out when he sees traces of racist
chinese on scs. But have you, in return, cried out against all the
atrocities carried out by your Islamic terrorists? Which is far worse?
Those on scs have not taken even a single life, in fact, not even hurt
a single hair on your head.How true it is that whenever you point a
finger at another person, three fingers point back at you.
And if you choose to view 'bayee' is an endearing term, so do others
have a right to take a similar view with the word 'keling'.
i don't know who is worse ?....a bayee who licks some yellow cunt or cretins
and apes who thinks who is the apex of creation....i know what bayee means
and in fact i had written a post on such teminology....so,if i called the
indian PM Mama Manmohan Singh ,he would not be offended and if if i sit
and start my conversation and agreeing with him 'yes bayee'; the PM would
not be offended. too..

but here is the challange to You ! you had called me a 'keling'....i want
you to put your money where your mouth is and if you call our president
Nathan as one you would certainly be behind bars...so fuckwit,you are simply
a foul mouthed bastard who is digrace to all indians....that is all...

besides,you seems to know fuck all about history...i was watching the
Barbarian series in our channell central....it was Gengis Khan who invaded
the muslim empire and slaugtered them mercilessly....it was only them
Mongols who eventaually became muslims and contributed to islam's
propagation...likwise,india was invaded just an any other territorial
conquest...if muslims really want to convert india into an islamic nation it
would have been done in days....just like spanish inqusition ....after 800
years of islamic rule india has hardly 15 % of muslims today.!!!...but the
living tesrimony is indeed indonesia ,the largest islamic nation on
earth....conversion not by a single blood drop !!....go and listen to
Bernard Shah,he said,'here is a sword go and see if you can spread a
religion'...

you are simply a bigoted bastard...and your stench is seeping through your
keyboard...
Post by t***@notrashmagix.com.sg
SIAOGU
The husband is the head of the house. The wife is the neck. And the neck turns the head.
Saddam Hussein
2004-05-24 02:41:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i don't know who is worse ?....a bayee who licks some yellow cunt or cretins
and apes who thinks who is the apex of creation....i know what bayee means
and in fact i had written a post on such teminology....so,if i called the
indian PM Mama Manmohan Singh ,he would not be offended and if if i sit
and start my conversation and agreeing with him 'yes bayee'; the PM would
not be offended. too..
but here is the challange to You ! you had called me a 'keling'....i want
you to put your money where your mouth is and if you call our president
Nathan as one you would certainly be behind bars...so fuckwit,you are simply
a foul mouthed bastard who is digrace to all indians....that is all...
If malay muslim uses the word keling would be acceptable to you
because they are muslim. If chinese used that word it is racist
remark.It is you fuckwit that should be thrown in jail.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,you seems to know fuck all about history...i was watching the
Barbarian series in our channell central....it was Gengis Khan who invaded
the muslim empire and slaugtered them mercilessly....it was only them
Mongols who eventaually became muslims and contributed to islam's
propagation...likwise,india was invaded just an any other territorial
conquest...if muslims really want to convert india into an islamic nation it
would have been done in days....just like spanish inqusition ....after 800
years of islamic rule india has hardly 15 % of muslims today.!!!...
Yeah you also forgot to mentioned that the muslim ruler also has been
advised that to convert whole India to Islam would only invite back
slash again him by the Hindu India population. That is why India is
not Islamic country.

but the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
living tesrimony is indeed indonesia ,the largest islamic nation on
earth....conversion not by a single blood drop !!....go and listen to
Bernard Shah,he said,'here is a sword go and see if you can spread a
religion'...
You must be fucking moron. Violent is still raging in Indonesia. Stop
writing nonsense here Pakis arse-licker. How many of the Indonesian
are practising Islam in Indonesia?
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you are simply a bigoted bastard...and your stench is seeping through your
keyboard...
You are a bigger bastard here. Siagou has the right to say what he
wants here the same as you. Nobody bother much about what you have
written here racist bastard Pakis arse-licking keling
Ceciro
2004-05-24 15:12:53 UTC
Permalink
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Saddam racist bastard,

Shut the fuck up and start fucking your mother. Mother Fucker.
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i don't know who is worse ?....a bayee who licks some yellow cunt or cretins
and apes who thinks who is the apex of creation....i know what bayee means
and in fact i had written a post on such teminology....so,if i called the
indian PM Mama Manmohan Singh ,he would not be offended and if if i sit
and start my conversation and agreeing with him 'yes bayee'; the PM would
not be offended. too..
but here is the challange to You ! you had called me a 'keling'....i want
you to put your money where your mouth is and if you call our president
Nathan as one you would certainly be behind bars...so fuckwit,you are simply
a foul mouthed bastard who is digrace to all indians....that is all...
If malay muslim uses the word keling would be acceptable to you
because they are muslim. If chinese used that word it is racist
remark.It is you fuckwit that should be thrown in jail.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,you seems to know fuck all about history...i was watching the
Barbarian series in our channell central....it was Gengis Khan who invaded
the muslim empire and slaugtered them mercilessly....it was only them
Mongols who eventaually became muslims and contributed to islam's
propagation...likwise,india was invaded just an any other territorial
conquest...if muslims really want to convert india into an islamic nation it
would have been done in days....just like spanish inqusition ....after 800
years of islamic rule india has hardly 15 % of muslims today.!!!...
Yeah you also forgot to mentioned that the muslim ruler also has been
advised that to convert whole India to Islam would only invite back
slash again him by the Hindu India population. That is why India is
not Islamic country.
but the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
living tesrimony is indeed indonesia ,the largest islamic nation on
earth....conversion not by a single blood drop !!....go and listen to
Bernard Shah,he said,'here is a sword go and see if you can spread a
religion'...
You must be fucking moron. Violent is still raging in Indonesia. Stop
writing nonsense here Pakis arse-licker. How many of the Indonesian
are practising Islam in Indonesia?
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you are simply a bigoted bastard...and your stench is seeping through your
keyboard...
You are a bigger bastard here. Siagou has the right to say what he
wants here the same as you. Nobody bother much about what you have
written here racist bastard Pakis arse-licking keling
Lau Niu
2004-05-25 02:03:32 UTC
Permalink
another copycat, why must you follow ST to fucking your mother.
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Saddam racist bastard,
Shut the fuck up and start fucking your mother. Mother Fucker.
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i don't know who is worse ?....a bayee who licks some yellow cunt or cretins
and apes who thinks who is the apex of creation....i know what bayee means
and in fact i had written a post on such teminology....so,if i called the
indian PM Mama Manmohan Singh ,he would not be offended and if if i sit
and start my conversation and agreeing with him 'yes bayee'; the PM would
not be offended. too..
but here is the challange to You ! you had called me a 'keling'....i want
you to put your money where your mouth is and if you call our president
Nathan as one you would certainly be behind bars...so fuckwit,you are simply
a foul mouthed bastard who is digrace to all indians....that is all...
If malay muslim uses the word keling would be acceptable to you
because they are muslim. If chinese used that word it is racist
remark.It is you fuckwit that should be thrown in jail.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,you seems to know fuck all about history...i was watching the
Barbarian series in our channell central....it was Gengis Khan who invaded
the muslim empire and slaugtered them mercilessly....it was only them
Mongols who eventaually became muslims and contributed to islam's
propagation...likwise,india was invaded just an any other territorial
conquest...if muslims really want to convert india into an islamic nation it
would have been done in days....just like spanish inqusition ....after 800
years of islamic rule india has hardly 15 % of muslims today.!!!...
Yeah you also forgot to mentioned that the muslim ruler also has been
advised that to convert whole India to Islam would only invite back
slash again him by the Hindu India population. That is why India is
not Islamic country.
but the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
living tesrimony is indeed indonesia ,the largest islamic nation on
earth....conversion not by a single blood drop !!....go and listen to
Bernard Shah,he said,'here is a sword go and see if you can spread a
religion'...
You must be fucking moron. Violent is still raging in Indonesia. Stop
writing nonsense here Pakis arse-licker. How many of the Indonesian
are practising Islam in Indonesia?
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you are simply a bigoted bastard...and your stench is seeping through your
keyboard...
You are a bigger bastard here. Siagou has the right to say what he
wants here the same as you. Nobody bother much about what you have
written here racist bastard Pakis arse-licking keling
Ceciro
2004-05-25 07:09:04 UTC
Permalink
Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Racist Bastard Lau Niu,

Son, I am the Father of all motherfuckers. You are just a
mother-fucking novice waiting to be bloody fucked.

I am not a copycat. If you do not believe, by all means ask the
racist mother fucking bastard Metta darling and his fucker and arse
licker ***@hotmail.com and
***@hotmail.com .

I have fucked all of them and their mothers many times over. They will
provide paramount evidence that I am the first to fucker their mothers
and yours too.

Let history be my witness that I am an original fucker of your
mothers.

Good luck son.
Post by Lau Niu
another copycat, why must you follow ST to fucking your mother.
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Saddam racist bastard,
Shut the fuck up and start fucking your mother. Mother Fucker.
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i don't know who is worse ?....a bayee who licks some yellow cunt or
cretins
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and apes who thinks who is the apex of creation....i know what bayee
means
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and in fact i had written a post on such teminology....so,if i called
the
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
indian PM Mama Manmohan Singh ,he would not be offended and if if i
sit
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and start my conversation and agreeing with him 'yes bayee'; the PM
would
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
not be offended. too..
but here is the challange to You ! you had called me a 'keling'....i
want
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you to put your money where your mouth is and if you call our
president
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Nathan as one you would certainly be behind bars...so fuckwit,you are
simply
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
a foul mouthed bastard who is digrace to all indians....that is all...
If malay muslim uses the word keling would be acceptable to you
because they are muslim. If chinese used that word it is racist
remark.It is you fuckwit that should be thrown in jail.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,you seems to know fuck all about history...i was watching the
Barbarian series in our channell central....it was Gengis Khan who
invaded
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
the muslim empire and slaugtered them mercilessly....it was only them
Mongols who eventaually became muslims and contributed to islam's
propagation...likwise,india was invaded just an any other territorial
conquest...if muslims really want to convert india into an islamic
nation it
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
would have been done in days....just like spanish inqusition ....after
800
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
years of islamic rule india has hardly 15 % of muslims today.!!!...
Yeah you also forgot to mentioned that the muslim ruler also has been
advised that to convert whole India to Islam would only invite back
slash again him by the Hindu India population. That is why India is
not Islamic country.
but the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
living tesrimony is indeed indonesia ,the largest islamic nation on
earth....conversion not by a single blood drop !!....go and listen to
Bernard Shah,he said,'here is a sword go and see if you can spread a
religion'...
You must be fucking moron. Violent is still raging in Indonesia. Stop
writing nonsense here Pakis arse-licker. How many of the Indonesian
are practising Islam in Indonesia?
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you are simply a bigoted bastard...and your stench is seeping through
your
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
keyboard...
You are a bigger bastard here. Siagou has the right to say what he
wants here the same as you. Nobody bother much about what you have
written here racist bastard Pakis arse-licking keling
Ceciro
2004-05-25 07:31:41 UTC
Permalink
Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Racist Bastard Lau Niu,

Son, I am the Father of all motherfuckers. You are just a
mother-fucking novice waiting to be bloody fucked.

I am not a copycat. If you do not believe, by all means ask the
racist mother fucking bastard Metta darling and his fucker and arse
licker ***@hotmail.com and
***@hotmail.com .

I have fucked all of them and their mothers many times over. They will
provide paramount evidence that I am the first to fucker their mothers
and yours too.

Let history be my witness that I am an original fucker of your
mothers.

Good luck son.
Post by Lau Niu
another copycat, why must you follow ST to fucking your mother.
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Saddam racist bastard,
Shut the fuck up and start fucking your mother. Mother Fucker.
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i don't know who is worse ?....a bayee who licks some yellow cunt or
cretins
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and apes who thinks who is the apex of creation....i know what bayee
means
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and in fact i had written a post on such teminology....so,if i called
the
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
indian PM Mama Manmohan Singh ,he would not be offended and if if i
sit
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and start my conversation and agreeing with him 'yes bayee'; the PM
would
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
not be offended. too..
but here is the challange to You ! you had called me a 'keling'....i
want
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you to put your money where your mouth is and if you call our
president
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Nathan as one you would certainly be behind bars...so fuckwit,you are
simply
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
a foul mouthed bastard who is digrace to all indians....that is all...
If malay muslim uses the word keling would be acceptable to you
because they are muslim. If chinese used that word it is racist
remark.It is you fuckwit that should be thrown in jail.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,you seems to know fuck all about history...i was watching the
Barbarian series in our channell central....it was Gengis Khan who
invaded
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
the muslim empire and slaugtered them mercilessly....it was only them
Mongols who eventaually became muslims and contributed to islam's
propagation...likwise,india was invaded just an any other territorial
conquest...if muslims really want to convert india into an islamic
nation it
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
would have been done in days....just like spanish inqusition ....after
800
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
years of islamic rule india has hardly 15 % of muslims today.!!!...
Yeah you also forgot to mentioned that the muslim ruler also has been
advised that to convert whole India to Islam would only invite back
slash again him by the Hindu India population. That is why India is
not Islamic country.
but the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
living tesrimony is indeed indonesia ,the largest islamic nation on
earth....conversion not by a single blood drop !!....go and listen to
Bernard Shah,he said,'here is a sword go and see if you can spread a
religion'...
You must be fucking moron. Violent is still raging in Indonesia. Stop
writing nonsense here Pakis arse-licker. How many of the Indonesian
are practising Islam in Indonesia?
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you are simply a bigoted bastard...and your stench is seeping through
your
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
keyboard...
You are a bigger bastard here. Siagou has the right to say what he
wants here the same as you. Nobody bother much about what you have
written here racist bastard Pakis arse-licking keling
Ceciro
2004-05-25 07:31:50 UTC
Permalink
Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Racist Bastard Lau Niu,

Son, I am the Father of all motherfuckers. You are just a
mother-fucking novice waiting to be bloody fucked.

I am not a copycat. If you do not believe, by all means ask the
racist mother fucking bastard Metta darling and his fucker and arse
licker ***@hotmail.com and
***@hotmail.com .

I have fucked all of them and their mothers many times over. They will
provide paramount evidence that I am the first to fucker their mothers
and yours too.

Let history be my witness that I am an original fucker of your
mothers.

Good luck son.
Post by Lau Niu
another copycat, why must you follow ST to fucking your mother.
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Saddam racist bastard,
Shut the fuck up and start fucking your mother. Mother Fucker.
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i don't know who is worse ?....a bayee who licks some yellow cunt or
cretins
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and apes who thinks who is the apex of creation....i know what bayee
means
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and in fact i had written a post on such teminology....so,if i called
the
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
indian PM Mama Manmohan Singh ,he would not be offended and if if i
sit
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and start my conversation and agreeing with him 'yes bayee'; the PM
would
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
not be offended. too..
but here is the challange to You ! you had called me a 'keling'....i
want
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you to put your money where your mouth is and if you call our
president
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Nathan as one you would certainly be behind bars...so fuckwit,you are
simply
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
a foul mouthed bastard who is digrace to all indians....that is all...
If malay muslim uses the word keling would be acceptable to you
because they are muslim. If chinese used that word it is racist
remark.It is you fuckwit that should be thrown in jail.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,you seems to know fuck all about history...i was watching the
Barbarian series in our channell central....it was Gengis Khan who
invaded
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
the muslim empire and slaugtered them mercilessly....it was only them
Mongols who eventaually became muslims and contributed to islam's
propagation...likwise,india was invaded just an any other territorial
conquest...if muslims really want to convert india into an islamic
nation it
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
would have been done in days....just like spanish inqusition ....after
800
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
years of islamic rule india has hardly 15 % of muslims today.!!!...
Yeah you also forgot to mentioned that the muslim ruler also has been
advised that to convert whole India to Islam would only invite back
slash again him by the Hindu India population. That is why India is
not Islamic country.
but the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
living tesrimony is indeed indonesia ,the largest islamic nation on
earth....conversion not by a single blood drop !!....go and listen to
Bernard Shah,he said,'here is a sword go and see if you can spread a
religion'...
You must be fucking moron. Violent is still raging in Indonesia. Stop
writing nonsense here Pakis arse-licker. How many of the Indonesian
are practising Islam in Indonesia?
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you are simply a bigoted bastard...and your stench is seeping through
your
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
keyboard...
You are a bigger bastard here. Siagou has the right to say what he
wants here the same as you. Nobody bother much about what you have
written here racist bastard Pakis arse-licking keling
Ceciro
2004-05-25 08:01:21 UTC
Permalink
Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Racist Bastard Lau Niu,

Son, I am the Father of all motherfuckers. You are just a
mother-fucking novice waiting to be bloody fucked.

I am not a copycat. If you do not believe, by all means ask the
racist mother fucking bastard Metta darling and his fucker and arse
licker ***@hotmail.com and
***@hotmail.com .

I have fucked all of them and their mothers many times over. They will
provide paramount evidence that I am the first to fucker their mothers
and yours too.

Let history be my witness that I am an original fucker of your
mothers.

Good luck son.
Post by Lau Niu
another copycat, why must you follow ST to fucking your mother.
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Saddam racist bastard,
Shut the fuck up and start fucking your mother. Mother Fucker.
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i don't know who is worse ?....a bayee who licks some yellow cunt or
cretins
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and apes who thinks who is the apex of creation....i know what bayee
means
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and in fact i had written a post on such teminology....so,if i called
the
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
indian PM Mama Manmohan Singh ,he would not be offended and if if i
sit
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and start my conversation and agreeing with him 'yes bayee'; the PM
would
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
not be offended. too..
but here is the challange to You ! you had called me a 'keling'....i
want
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you to put your money where your mouth is and if you call our
president
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Nathan as one you would certainly be behind bars...so fuckwit,you are
simply
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
a foul mouthed bastard who is digrace to all indians....that is all...
If malay muslim uses the word keling would be acceptable to you
because they are muslim. If chinese used that word it is racist
remark.It is you fuckwit that should be thrown in jail.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,you seems to know fuck all about history...i was watching the
Barbarian series in our channell central....it was Gengis Khan who
invaded
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
the muslim empire and slaugtered them mercilessly....it was only them
Mongols who eventaually became muslims and contributed to islam's
propagation...likwise,india was invaded just an any other territorial
conquest...if muslims really want to convert india into an islamic
nation it
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
would have been done in days....just like spanish inqusition ....after
800
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
years of islamic rule india has hardly 15 % of muslims today.!!!...
Yeah you also forgot to mentioned that the muslim ruler also has been
advised that to convert whole India to Islam would only invite back
slash again him by the Hindu India population. That is why India is
not Islamic country.
but the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
living tesrimony is indeed indonesia ,the largest islamic nation on
earth....conversion not by a single blood drop !!....go and listen to
Bernard Shah,he said,'here is a sword go and see if you can spread a
religion'...
You must be fucking moron. Violent is still raging in Indonesia. Stop
writing nonsense here Pakis arse-licker. How many of the Indonesian
are practising Islam in Indonesia?
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you are simply a bigoted bastard...and your stench is seeping through
your
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
keyboard...
You are a bigger bastard here. Siagou has the right to say what he
wants here the same as you. Nobody bother much about what you have
written here racist bastard Pakis arse-licking keling
Ceciro
2004-05-25 08:01:33 UTC
Permalink
Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Racist Bastard Lau Niu,

Son, I am the Father of all motherfuckers. You are just a
mother-fucking novice waiting to be bloody fucked.

I am not a copycat. If you do not believe, by all means ask the
racist mother fucking bastard Metta darling and his fucker and arse
licker ***@hotmail.com and
***@hotmail.com .

I have fucked all of them and their mothers many times over. They will
provide paramount evidence that I am the first to fucker their mothers
and yours too.

Let history be my witness that I am an original fucker of your
mothers.

Good luck son.
Post by Lau Niu
another copycat, why must you follow ST to fucking your mother.
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Saddam racist bastard,
Shut the fuck up and start fucking your mother. Mother Fucker.
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i don't know who is worse ?....a bayee who licks some yellow cunt or
cretins
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and apes who thinks who is the apex of creation....i know what bayee
means
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and in fact i had written a post on such teminology....so,if i called
the
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
indian PM Mama Manmohan Singh ,he would not be offended and if if i
sit
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and start my conversation and agreeing with him 'yes bayee'; the PM
would
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
not be offended. too..
but here is the challange to You ! you had called me a 'keling'....i
want
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you to put your money where your mouth is and if you call our
president
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Nathan as one you would certainly be behind bars...so fuckwit,you are
simply
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
a foul mouthed bastard who is digrace to all indians....that is all...
If malay muslim uses the word keling would be acceptable to you
because they are muslim. If chinese used that word it is racist
remark.It is you fuckwit that should be thrown in jail.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,you seems to know fuck all about history...i was watching the
Barbarian series in our channell central....it was Gengis Khan who
invaded
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
the muslim empire and slaugtered them mercilessly....it was only them
Mongols who eventaually became muslims and contributed to islam's
propagation...likwise,india was invaded just an any other territorial
conquest...if muslims really want to convert india into an islamic
nation it
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
would have been done in days....just like spanish inqusition ....after
800
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
years of islamic rule india has hardly 15 % of muslims today.!!!...
Yeah you also forgot to mentioned that the muslim ruler also has been
advised that to convert whole India to Islam would only invite back
slash again him by the Hindu India population. That is why India is
not Islamic country.
but the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
living tesrimony is indeed indonesia ,the largest islamic nation on
earth....conversion not by a single blood drop !!....go and listen to
Bernard Shah,he said,'here is a sword go and see if you can spread a
religion'...
You must be fucking moron. Violent is still raging in Indonesia. Stop
writing nonsense here Pakis arse-licker. How many of the Indonesian
are practising Islam in Indonesia?
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you are simply a bigoted bastard...and your stench is seeping through
your
Post by Ceciro
Post by Saddam Hussein
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
keyboard...
You are a bigger bastard here. Siagou has the right to say what he
wants here the same as you. Nobody bother much about what you have
written here racist bastard Pakis arse-licking keling
metta
2004-05-27 10:23:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ceciro
Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Racist Bastard Lau Niu,
Son, I am the Father of all motherfuckers. You are just a
mother-fucking novice waiting to be bloody fucked.
I am not a copycat. If you do not believe, by all means ask the
racist mother fucking bastard Metta darling and his fucker and arse
I have fucked all of them and their mothers many times over. They will
provide paramount evidence that I am the first to fucker their mothers
and yours too.
Let history be my witness that I am an original fucker of your
mothers.
Good luck son.
George Fernandez, you are a disgrace to the National Library Board
Singapore and the public service sector of Singapore with your
profanity. We are not afraid of your profanity. Keep throwing the
profanity. I hope somebody in National Library Board will have the gut
to take action against you and terminate your service there.
Otherwise, I congratulate you for disgracing the National Library
Board Singapore reputation and our public service sector. Not many
people here even our Richard Ho is able to disgrace the public sector
of Singapore but you.
Ceciro
2004-06-04 11:49:44 UTC
Permalink
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Metta Bastard,

Due to economic problems I am not able to pay the usual S$10.00 for
fucking your mother. I will reduce the payment to S$5.00 per fuck.
Once the public sector rewards itself for its performance, I will
follow suit to reward your fucking mother. So long Mother Fucker!

Is there anybody in the National Library Board who has the bloody
mother fucking guts to sack the CIO. I repeat, is there anybody in
the National Library Board who has the bloody mother fucking guts to
sack the CIO.

If not you can cut all these bravado of yours.

Son,
Before faulting with others clean thy closet first. It is impressive
that now you have learned to communicate without profanity. Mother
Fucker keep it up.
Father George Fernandez Sir,
I am a disgrace to the National Library Board
Singapore and the public service sector of Singapore with my fucking
profanity. I am not afraid of my fucking profanity. I will keep throwing the
fucking profanity. I hope somebody in National Library Board will have the gut
to take fucking action against me and terminate my fucking service there.
Lau Niu
2004-06-04 14:48:20 UTC
Permalink
you moron, a disgrace of your family, community, race and religion.
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Metta Bastard,
Kan_Ne_Nair_George
2004-05-25 02:10:50 UTC
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Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Saddam racist bastard,
Shut the fuck up and start fucking your mother. Mother Fucker.
Every where we go, we want to OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
We are pariah keling, always OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
Mamak Keling also want to OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
Our KOONCHIK always find old PONDEX to OOLU-OOLU
Because we are keling, the OOLU-OOLU klan.
Ceciro
2004-05-25 07:21:29 UTC
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Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard
hiding behindthe incognito "***@hotmail.com ",

Do you truly believe that fucking your mother will make you a better
homosexual? Please for the last time, you are not a lesbian.

Though you pimp and prostitute your mother, wife, daughters and
sisters for money I do not fault you. You are after all a human.
That is why I did not take issues with you even when you had at
multiple times sucked on my phallus while I was asleep.

I tolerate your mistakes. After all I am your pseudo stepfather and
you are my pseudo stepson.

Good luck fucking your mother son.
Post by Kan_Ne_Nair_George
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Saddam racist bastard,
Shut the fuck up and start fucking your mother. Mother Fucker.
Every where we go, we want to OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
We are pariah keling, always OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
Mamak Keling also want to OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
Our KOONCHIK always find old PONDEX to OOLU-OOLU
Because we are keling, the OOLU-OOLU klan.
Lau Niu
2004-05-25 08:06:36 UTC
Permalink
It must be the practices of your community and religion.
Post by Ceciro
Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard
Do you truly believe that fucking your mother will make you a better
homosexual? Please for the last time, you are not a lesbian.
Though you pimp and prostitute your mother, wife, daughters and
sisters for money I do not fault you. You are after all a human.
That is why I did not take issues with you even when you had at
multiple times sucked on my phallus while I was asleep.
I tolerate your mistakes. After all I am your pseudo stepfather and
you are my pseudo stepson.
Good luck fucking your mother son.
Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard
Post by Kan_Ne_Nair_George
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Saddam racist bastard,
Shut the fuck up and start fucking your mother. Mother Fucker.
Every where we go, we want to OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
We are pariah keling, always OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
Mamak Keling also want to OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
Our KOONCHIK always find old PONDEX to OOLU-OOLU
Because we are keling, the OOLU-OOLU klan.
Ceciro
2004-05-25 14:06:30 UTC
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Dear Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

My religion requires me to fuck your mother, wife, sisters, daughters
and all other females of your fucking family,

Don't be scared. It is sacred holy fucking. YOur mother, after my
fucking had attained divinity,
Post by Lau Niu
It must be the practices of your community and religion.
Post by Ceciro
Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard
Do you truly believe that fucking your mother will make you a better
homosexual? Please for the last time, you are not a lesbian.
Though you pimp and prostitute your mother, wife, daughters and
sisters for money I do not fault you. You are after all a human.
That is why I did not take issues with you even when you had at
multiple times sucked on my phallus while I was asleep.
I tolerate your mistakes. After all I am your pseudo stepfather and
you are my pseudo stepson.
Good luck fucking your mother son.
Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard
Post by Kan_Ne_Nair_George
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Saddam racist bastard,
Shut the fuck up and start fucking your mother. Mother Fucker.
Every where we go, we want to OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
We are pariah keling, always OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
Mamak Keling also want to OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
Our KOONCHIK always find old PONDEX to OOLU-OOLU
Because we are keling, the OOLU-OOLU klan.
Lau Niu
2004-05-26 02:31:14 UTC
Permalink
It must be the practices of your religion and the happening in your
community.
.
Post by Ceciro
Dear Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
My religion requires me to fuck your mother, wife, sisters, daughters
and all other females of your fucking family,
Don't be scared. It is sacred holy fucking. YOur mother, after my
fucking had attained divinity,
Post by Lau Niu
It must be the practices of your community and religion.
Post by Ceciro
Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard
Do you truly believe that fucking your mother will make you a better
homosexual? Please for the last time, you are not a lesbian.
Though you pimp and prostitute your mother, wife, daughters and
sisters for money I do not fault you. You are after all a human.
That is why I did not take issues with you even when you had at
multiple times sucked on my phallus while I was asleep.
I tolerate your mistakes. After all I am your pseudo stepfather and
you are my pseudo stepson.
Good luck fucking your mother son.
Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard
Post by Kan_Ne_Nair_George
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Saddam racist bastard,
Shut the fuck up and start fucking your mother. Mother Fucker.
Every where we go, we want to OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
We are pariah keling, always OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
Mamak Keling also want to OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
Our KOONCHIK always find old PONDEX to OOLU-OOLU
Because we are keling, the OOLU-OOLU klan.
Ceciro
2004-05-26 14:18:44 UTC
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Dear Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

I am also getting cheap fuck from your mother. My religion is to fuck
your female family members. Get them ready will you? Mother Fucker.
It must be the practices of my religion and the happening in my
community to fuck all our women. I am sorry.
.
Lau Niu
2004-05-27 04:14:44 UTC
Permalink
It must be the practices of your religion and the happening in your
community.
.
Post by Ceciro
Dear Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
I am also getting free fuck from my mother. My religion is to fuck
my female family members.
.
Ceciro
2004-05-27 12:13:28 UTC
Permalink
Dear Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

I am also getting cheap fuck from your mother. My religion is to fuck
your female family members. Get them ready will you? Mother Fucker.
It must be the fucking practices of my fucking religion
and the fucking happening in my fucking community.
.
I the Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
Am also geting free fuck from my mother. My religion is to fuck
my female family members. Thank you.
Ceciro
2004-05-27 12:14:29 UTC
Permalink
Dear Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

I am also getting cheap fuck from your mother. My religion is to fuck
your female family members. Get them ready will you? Mother Fucker.
It must be the fucking practices of my fucking religion
and the fucking happening in my fucking community.
.
I the Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
Am also geting free fuck from my mother. My religion is to fuck
my female family members.
Lau Niu
2004-05-27 22:54:55 UTC
Permalink
Practice of you religion!
Post by Ceciro
Dear Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
I am also getting cheap fuck from your mother. My religion is to fuck
my female family members.
Ceciro
2004-05-31 02:24:54 UTC
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Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

Due to economic problems I am not able to pay the usual S$10.00 for
fucking your mother. I will reduce the payment to S$5.00 per fuck.
Once the public sector rewards itself for its performance, I will
follow suit to reward your fucking mother. So long Mother Fucker!


Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

Is there anybody in the National Library Board who has the bloody
mother fucking guts to sack the CIO. I repeat, is there anybody in
the National Library Board who has the bloody mother fucking guts to
sack the CIO.

If not you can cut all this bravado of your.

Son,
Before faulting with others clean thy closet first. It is impressive
that now you have learned to communicate without profanity. Mother
Fucker keep it up.
George Fernandez, I am a disgrace to the National Library Board
Singapore and the public service sector of Singapore with my fucking
profanity. I am not afraid of my fucking profanity. I will keep throwing the
fucking profanity. I hope somebody in National Library Board will have the gut
 to take fucking action against me and terminate my fucking
service there.
Lau Niu
2004-05-31 05:32:08 UTC
Permalink
hahaha
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
Due to economic problems I am not able to pay the usual S$10.00 for
fucking my mother. I will reduce the payment to S$5.00 per fuck.
Once the public sector rewards itself for its performance, I will
follow suit to reward my fucking mother. So long Mother !
Ceciro
2004-06-04 11:50:29 UTC
Permalink
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

Due to economic problems I am not able to pay the usual S$10.00 for
fucking your mother. I will reduce the payment to S$5.00 per fuck.
Once the public sector rewards itself for its performance, I will
follow suit to reward your fucking mother. So long Mother Fucker!

Is there anybody in the National Library Board who has the bloody
mother fucking guts to sack the CIO. I repeat, is there anybody in
the National Library Board who has the bloody mother fucking guts to
sack the CIO.

If not you can cut all these bravado of yours.

Son,
Before faulting with others clean thy closet first. It is impressive
that now you have learned to communicate without profanity. Mother
Fucker keep it up.
Father George Fernandez Sir,
I am a disgrace to the National Library Board
Singapore and the public service sector of Singapore with my fucking
profanity. I am not afraid of my fucking profanity. I will keep throwing the
fucking profanity. I hope somebody in National Library Board will have the gut
to take fucking action against me and terminate my fucking service there.
Lau Niu
2004-06-04 14:59:30 UTC
Permalink
you moron, a disgrace of your family, community, race and religion.
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
King_Of_KYellow_Khookhoos
2004-05-26 14:58:46 UTC
Permalink
Can I fuck thy mother deep inside once more ?
Ceciro
2004-05-25 12:45:41 UTC
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Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard hiding behind
the incognito " ***@hotmail.com " ,

Son it is clear that you are not aware that I have fucked your mother
multiple times. She now blames me for her fibroid and cysts that had
developed within her. Dear son please explain to your mother that she
is a whore and this medical condition that she has had been the direct
result of you fucking her every time immediately after you returned
from thailand.

Please do your fucking part and be a responsible fucking son.
Post by Kan_Ne_Nair_George
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Saddam racist bastard,
Shut the fuck up and start fucking your mother. Mother Fucker.
Every where we go, we want to OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
We are pariah keling, always OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
Mamak Keling also want to OOLU-OOLU old PONDEX
Our KOONCHIK always find old PONDEX to OOLU-OOLU
Because we are keling, the OOLU-OOLU klan.
t***@notrashmagix.com.sg
2004-05-26 11:11:37 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:18:33 +0800, "STRAIGHTS TIMED"
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i don't know who is worse ?....a bayee who licks some yellow cunt or cretins
and apes who thinks who is the apex of creation....i know what bayee means
and in fact i had written a post on such teminology....so,if i called the
indian PM Mama Manmohan Singh ,he would not be offended and if if i sit
and start my conversation and agreeing with him 'yes bayee'; the PM would
not be offended. too..
Ha ha ha! See, your racism stinks so bad you can't even smell it due
to the fact that you got so used to the stench. I wrote on a host of
things, but you ignored them all and homed in on the word "keling".
The rest of your Islamic atrocities you just chose to ignore cos it
makes you look like a bigoted fool.

You know nuts about the various races around you, except to think that
everyone is looking down on you. By your behaviour, I am not
surprised. it is YOU they look down upon, not your race. Go figure out
why. But it is so easy for you to use race as the tool to camouflage
your shortcomings.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
but here is the challange to You ! you had called me a 'keling'....i want
you to put your money where your mouth is and if you call our president
Nathan as one you would certainly be behind bars...so fuckwit,you are simply
a foul mouthed bastard who is digrace to all indians....that is all...
Don't bring presidents and prime ministers into the picture. I am
referring to you. You are so good at bending issues that the term
"bengkok" describes you aptly. Go learn to pronounce the term
correctly before you even venture to use it. What you said above only
serves to prove that the Sikhs are a more tolerant breed than the
kelings. And if you want to throw that challenge at me, let me throw
it back at you. Why don't you go try to tell S Dhanabalan or Professor
Jayakumar that they lick yellow cunts too? And let's see if YOU don't
end up behind bars?
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,you seems to know fuck all about history...i was watching the
Barbarian series in our channell central....it was Gengis Khan who invaded
the muslim empire and slaugtered them mercilessly....it was only them
Mongols who eventaually became muslims and contributed to islam's
propagation...likwise,india was invaded just an any other territorial
conquest...if muslims really want to convert india into an islamic nation it
would have been done in days....just like spanish inqusition ....after 800
years of islamic rule india has hardly 15 % of muslims today.!!!...but the
living tesrimony is indeed indonesia ,the largest islamic nation on
earth....conversion not by a single blood drop !!....go and listen to
Bernard Shah,he said,'here is a sword go and see if you can spread a
religion'...
Pardon me, I didn't know I was speaking to a historical genius! I beg
your pardon professor laureate and nobel prize winner!
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you are simply a bigoted bastard...and your stench is seeping through your
keyboard...
I don't need to say who is the real bigoted bastard here. The whole of
netizens on SCS can see for themselves.


SIAOGU

The husband is the head of the house. The wife is the neck. And the neck turns the head.
ardeedee
2004-05-26 11:44:41 UTC
Permalink
If it is true that they Danabalan and Jaya lick yellow cunts then why do
they have to jail anyone?
You write so much and mean so little.
Post by t***@notrashmagix.com.sg
On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:18:33 +0800, "STRAIGHTS TIMED"
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i don't know who is worse ?....a bayee who licks some yellow cunt or cretins
and apes who thinks who is the apex of creation....i know what bayee means
and in fact i had written a post on such teminology....so,if i called the
indian PM Mama Manmohan Singh ,he would not be offended and if if i sit
and start my conversation and agreeing with him 'yes bayee'; the PM would
not be offended. too..
Ha ha ha! See, your racism stinks so bad you can't even smell it due
to the fact that you got so used to the stench. I wrote on a host of
things, but you ignored them all and homed in on the word "keling".
The rest of your Islamic atrocities you just chose to ignore cos it
makes you look like a bigoted fool.
You know nuts about the various races around you, except to think that
everyone is looking down on you. By your behaviour, I am not
surprised. it is YOU they look down upon, not your race. Go figure out
why. But it is so easy for you to use race as the tool to camouflage
your shortcomings.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
but here is the challange to You ! you had called me a 'keling'....i want
you to put your money where your mouth is and if you call our president
Nathan as one you would certainly be behind bars...so fuckwit,you are simply
a foul mouthed bastard who is digrace to all indians....that is all...
Don't bring presidents and prime ministers into the picture. I am
referring to you. You are so good at bending issues that the term
"bengkok" describes you aptly. Go learn to pronounce the term
correctly before you even venture to use it. What you said above only
serves to prove that the Sikhs are a more tolerant breed than the
kelings. And if you want to throw that challenge at me, let me throw
it back at you. Why don't you go try to tell S Dhanabalan or Professor
Jayakumar that they lick yellow cunts too? And let's see if YOU don't
end up behind bars?
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,you seems to know fuck all about history...i was watching the
Barbarian series in our channell central....it was Gengis Khan who invaded
the muslim empire and slaugtered them mercilessly....it was only them
Mongols who eventaually became muslims and contributed to islam's
propagation...likwise,india was invaded just an any other territorial
conquest...if muslims really want to convert india into an islamic nation it
would have been done in days....just like spanish inqusition ....after 800
years of islamic rule india has hardly 15 % of muslims today.!!!...but the
living tesrimony is indeed indonesia ,the largest islamic nation on
earth....conversion not by a single blood drop !!....go and listen to
Bernard Shah,he said,'here is a sword go and see if you can spread a
religion'...
Pardon me, I didn't know I was speaking to a historical genius! I beg
your pardon professor laureate and nobel prize winner!
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you are simply a bigoted bastard...and your stench is seeping through your
keyboard...
I don't need to say who is the real bigoted bastard here. The whole of
netizens on SCS can see for themselves.
SIAOGU
The husband is the head of the house. The wife is the neck. And the neck turns the head.
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2004-05-27 02:41:09 UTC
Permalink
what a pathetic sounding yellow cunt licker whining all over here to be
heard !.....did I ask for the slaughter of all Sikhs as you asked for the
slaughter of all Muslims ? No !....did I belittled all Indians as kelings as
you did ? No ! you justified the word kelings to describe Indians giving
support to Chinese racists since you are licking a yellow cunt....why should
I ?

anyway,I see you have no balls to take my challenge that I can call our
president ,Nathan mama or Indian PM as baiyee Vajpayee or Manmohan but can
you try the same with our indian ministers or our president as
kelings.....!!!

go fuckwit,go and grow your beard once more and cover your face with the
munda you used as a turban and hide yourself....

here is a second chance,if you do have balls and its in the size of peanuts
why don't you show us some balls by going to an India temple and
shout,'kelings I love you'

....or if you have absolutely no balls at all why not open a new thread here
to justify your stand that Indians should be called 'kelings' from now
nwards....go yellow cunt licker,show us some balls !
Post by t***@notrashmagix.com.sg
On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:18:33 +0800, "STRAIGHTS TIMED"
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i don't know who is worse ?....a bayee who licks some yellow cunt or cretins
and apes who thinks who is the apex of creation....i know what bayee means
and in fact i had written a post on such teminology....so,if i called the
indian PM Mama Manmohan Singh ,he would not be offended and if if i sit
and start my conversation and agreeing with him 'yes bayee'; the PM would
not be offended. too..
Ha ha ha! See, your racism stinks so bad you can't even smell it due
to the fact that you got so used to the stench. I wrote on a host of
things, but you ignored them all and homed in on the word "keling".
The rest of your Islamic atrocities you just chose to ignore cos it
makes you look like a bigoted fool.
You know nuts about the various races around you, except to think that
everyone is looking down on you. By your behaviour, I am not
surprised. it is YOU they look down upon, not your race. Go figure out
why. But it is so easy for you to use race as the tool to camouflage
your shortcomings.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
but here is the challange to You ! you had called me a 'keling'....i want
you to put your money where your mouth is and if you call our president
Nathan as one you would certainly be behind bars...so fuckwit,you are simply
a foul mouthed bastard who is digrace to all indians....that is all...
Don't bring presidents and prime ministers into the picture. I am
referring to you. You are so good at bending issues that the term
"bengkok" describes you aptly. Go learn to pronounce the term
correctly before you even venture to use it. What you said above only
serves to prove that the Sikhs are a more tolerant breed than the
kelings. And if you want to throw that challenge at me, let me throw
it back at you. Why don't you go try to tell S Dhanabalan or Professor
Jayakumar that they lick yellow cunts too? And let's see if YOU don't
end up behind bars?
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,you seems to know fuck all about history...i was watching the
Barbarian series in our channell central....it was Gengis Khan who invaded
the muslim empire and slaugtered them mercilessly....it was only them
Mongols who eventaually became muslims and contributed to islam's
propagation...likwise,india was invaded just an any other territorial
conquest...if muslims really want to convert india into an islamic nation it
would have been done in days....just like spanish inqusition ....after 800
years of islamic rule india has hardly 15 % of muslims today.!!!...but the
living tesrimony is indeed indonesia ,the largest islamic nation on
earth....conversion not by a single blood drop !!....go and listen to
Bernard Shah,he said,'here is a sword go and see if you can spread a
religion'...
Pardon me, I didn't know I was speaking to a historical genius! I beg
your pardon professor laureate and nobel prize winner!
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you are simply a bigoted bastard...and your stench is seeping through your
keyboard...
I don't need to say who is the real bigoted bastard here. The whole of
netizens on SCS can see for themselves.
SIAOGU
The husband is the head of the house. The wife is the neck. And the neck turns the head.
t***@notrashmagix.com.sg
2004-05-28 06:56:52 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 27 May 2004 10:41:09 +0800, "STRAIGHTS TIMED"
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
what a pathetic sounding yellow cunt licker whining all over here to be
heard !.....did I ask for the slaughter of all Sikhs as you asked for the
slaughter of all Muslims ? No !....did I belittled all Indians as kelings as
you did ? No ! you justified the word kelings to describe Indians giving
support to Chinese racists since you are licking a yellow cunt....why should
I ?
Did I ask for the slaughter of all Muslims? But then, everyone here is
aware that you tend to bengkok everything so I don't need to delve on
the issue futher. And when you can't find anything to support your
case then you accuse your victims of deleting posts.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
anyway,I see you have no balls to take my challenge that I can call our
president ,Nathan mama or Indian PM as baiyee Vajpayee or Manmohan but can
you try the same with our indian ministers or our president as
kelings.....!!!
Neither have you the balls to take mine.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
go fuckwit,go and grow your beard once more and cover your face with the
munda you used as a turban and hide yourself....
Well, you too go grow a goatie, tie a turban and migrate to Pakistan
where you can stone adulterous women to your heart's content
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
here is a second chance,if you do have balls and its in the size of peanuts
why don't you show us some balls by going to an India temple and
shout,'kelings I love you'
As soon as you go there and shout 'motherfuckers I love you'
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
....or if you have absolutely no balls at all why not open a new thread here
to justify your stand that Indians should be called 'kelings' from now
nwards....go yellow cunt licker,show us some balls !
Speak of yourself


SIAOGU

The husband is the head of the house. The wife is the neck. And the neck turns the head.
Lau Niu
2004-05-22 01:47:15 UTC
Permalink
Inferior complex mah!
Post by truth
Don't waste your time on Indian Muslim. They are
so small in number that you might as well consider
them irrelevant. They are trouble maker with split
identity. Neither Indian nor Arab.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it comes to
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you teach me
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your own
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you have
went
Post by Goh Meng Seng
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights Timed).
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for Versak
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this invitation by
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
Ceciro
2004-05-25 07:22:50 UTC
Permalink
Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard ,

The same way you feel when I fuck your mother.
Post by Lau Niu
Inferior complex mah!
Post by truth
Don't waste your time on Indian Muslim. They are
so small in number that you might as well consider
them irrelevant. They are trouble maker with split
identity. Neither Indian nor Arab.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it comes
to
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you teach
me
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your own
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you have
went
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights Timed).
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for
Versak
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this invitation
by
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
Lau Niu
2004-05-25 08:07:57 UTC
Permalink
Someone has done it to your mother and you feel inferior.
Post by Ceciro
Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard ,
The same way you feel when I fuck your mother.
Post by Lau Niu
Inferior complex mah!
Post by truth
Don't waste your time on Indian Muslim. They are
so small in number that you might as well consider
them irrelevant. They are trouble maker with split
identity. Neither Indian nor Arab.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it comes
to
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you teach
me
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your own
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you have
went
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights Timed).
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for
Versak
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this invitation
by
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
Ceciro
2004-05-25 14:03:46 UTC
Permalink
There is no point denying. Your mother is fucked, period.

There is nothing to be inferior about. Fucking your mother is an act of nature.
Post by Lau Niu
Someone has done it to your mother and you feel inferior.
Post by Ceciro
Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard ,
The same way you feel when I fuck your mother.
Post by Lau Niu
Inferior complex mah!
Post by truth
Don't waste your time on Indian Muslim. They are
so small in number that you might as well consider
them irrelevant. They are trouble maker with split
identity. Neither Indian nor Arab.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it
comes
to
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you
teach
me
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your
own
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you
have
went
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights
Timed).
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for
Versak
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this
invitation
by
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
Lau Niu
2004-05-26 02:32:02 UTC
Permalink
It must be the practices of your religion and such incidents are common in
your community.
Post by Ceciro
There is no point denying. Your mother is fucked, period.
There is nothing to be inferior about. Fucking your mother is an act of nature.
Post by Lau Niu
Someone has done it to your mother and you feel inferior.
Post by Ceciro
Dearest Darling Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard ,
The same way you feel when I fuck your mother.
Post by Lau Niu
Inferior complex mah!
Post by truth
Don't waste your time on Indian Muslim. They are
so small in number that you might as well consider
them irrelevant. They are trouble maker with split
identity. Neither Indian nor Arab.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it
comes
to
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you
teach
me
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your
own
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you
have
went
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights
Timed).
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for
Versak
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this
invitation
by
Post by Ceciro
Post by Lau Niu
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
Ceciro
2004-05-26 14:22:06 UTC
Permalink
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

Son it is clear that you are not aware that I have fucked your mother
multiple times. She now blames me for her fibroid and cysts that had
developed within her. Dear son please explain to your mother that she
is a whore and this medical condition that she has had been the direct
result of you fucking her every time immediately after you returned
from thailand.

Please do your fucking part and be a responsible fucking son.
It must be the fucking practices of my religion and such fucking
incidents are common in my fucking community. We fuck all our women.
Sorry, no left over for you.
Lau Niu
2004-05-27 04:17:42 UTC
Permalink
It must be the practices of your religion and such incidents are common in
your community.
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
it is clear that my father is not aware that I have fucked my mother
multiple times. She now blames me for her fibroid and cysts that had
developed within her. please explain to my mother that she
is a whore and this medical condition that she has had been the direct
result of me fucking her every time immediately after I returned
from thailand.
Ceciro
2004-05-27 12:14:50 UTC
Permalink
Dear Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

I am also getting cheap fuck from your mother. My religion is to fuck
your female family members. Get them ready will you? Mother Fucker.
It must be the fucking practices of my fucking religion
and the fucking happening in my fucking community.
.
I the Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
Am also geting free fuck from my mother. My religion is to fuck
my female family members.
King_Of_KYellow_Khookhoos
2004-05-26 14:59:24 UTC
Permalink
Can I fuck thy mother deep inside once more ?
Ceciro
2004-05-25 12:48:37 UTC
Permalink
Inferior is what I make your mother do. She simply bend over and
stands at an inferior height to mine and proactively takes my penis
and shaft it into her vagina.

And screams "God is Fucking me!" "God is Fucking! me!!!!!!"...
"God is Fucking!... me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"...............
Post by Lau Niu
Inferior complex mah!
Post by truth
Don't waste your time on Indian Muslim. They are
so small in number that you might as well consider
them irrelevant. They are trouble maker with split
identity. Neither Indian nor Arab.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it comes
to
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you teach
me
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your own
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you have
went
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights Timed).
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for
Versak
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this invitation
by
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
Lau Niu
2004-05-26 02:33:02 UTC
Permalink
It must be the practices of your religion and the happening in your
community.
That's is why you feel inferior and start complaining in SCS.
Post by Ceciro
Inferior is what I make your mother do. She simply bend over and
stands at an inferior height to mine and proactively takes my penis
and shaft it into her vagina.
And screams "God is Fucking me!" "God is Fucking! me!!!!!!"...
"God is Fucking!... me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"...............
Post by Lau Niu
Inferior complex mah!
Post by truth
Don't waste your time on Indian Muslim. They are
so small in number that you might as well consider
them irrelevant. They are trouble maker with split
identity. Neither Indian nor Arab.
Post by Goh Meng Seng
To Ardeedee & Straights Timed,
Even though we have very different views and perspective when it comes
to
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
race issues and such, I still treasure the valuable "lessons" you teach
me
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
each time we sparred.
Both of you are just strong advocators for better treatments to your own
race in one sense or another. But sometimes, I just feel that you have
went
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
overboard by attacking Chinese as a race (especially Straights Timed).
Attacking another race doesn't make your own race better.
In view of such situation, I would cordially invite both of you to
tea/coffee or even dinner when I return to Singapore early June for
Versak
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
Day. Please email me and let me know whether you accept this invitation
by
Post by truth
Post by Goh Meng Seng
this weekend.
Goh Meng Seng
Ceciro
2004-05-26 14:25:15 UTC
Permalink
Dear Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

I am also getting cheap fuck from your mother. My religion is to fuck
your female family members. Get them ready will you? Mother Fucker.
It must be the fucking practices of my fucking religion
and the fucking happening in my Fucking community.
That's is why I fucking feel fucking inferior and
start fucking complaining in fucking SCS. Sorry sirs.
Lau Niu
2004-05-27 04:24:24 UTC
Permalink
It must be the practices of your religion and the happening in your
community.
That's is why you feel inferior and start complaining in SCS.
Post by Ceciro
Dear Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
I am also getting fre fuck from my mother. My religion is to fuck
our female family members. .
Ceciro
2004-05-27 12:15:18 UTC
Permalink
Dear Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

I am also getting cheap fuck from your mother. My religion is to fuck
your female family members. Get them ready will you? Mother Fucker.
It must be the fucking practices of my fucking religion
and the fucking happening in my fucking community.
.
I the Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
Am also geting free fuck from my mother. My religion is to fuck
my female family members.
Lau Niu
2004-05-27 22:56:48 UTC
Permalink
George Fernandez, you are a disgrace to the National Library Board
Singapore and the public service sector of Singapore with your
profanity. We are not afraid of your profanity. Keep throwing the
profanity. I hope somebody in National Library Board will have the gut
to take action against you and terminate your service there.
Otherwise, I congratulate you for disgracing the National Library
Board Singapore reputation and our public service sector.
Post by Ceciro
Dear Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
I am also getting cheap fuck from your mother. My religion is to fuck
your female family members. Get them ready will you? Mother Fucker.
It must be the fucking practices of my fucking religion
and the fucking happening in my fucking community.
.
I the Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
Am also geting free fuck from my mother. My religion is to fuck
my female family members.
Ceciro
2004-05-31 02:25:34 UTC
Permalink
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

Due to economic problems I am not able to pay the usual S$10.00 for
fucking your mother. I will reduce the payment to S$5.00 per fuck.
Once the public sector rewards itself for its performance, I will
follow suit to reward your fucking mother. So long Mother Fucker!


Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

Is there anybody in the National Library Board who has the bloody
mother fucking guts to sack the CIO. I repeat, is there anybody in
the National Library Board who has the bloody mother fucking guts to
sack the CIO.

If not you can cut all this bravado of your.

Son,
Before faulting with others clean thy closet first. It is impressive
that now you have learned to communicate without profanity. Mother
Fucker keep it up.
George Fernandez, I am a disgrace to the National Library Board
Singapore and the public service sector of Singapore with my fucking
profanity. I am not afraid of my fucking profanity. I will keep throwing the
fucking profanity. I hope somebody in National Library Board will have the gut
 to take fucking action against me and terminate my fucking
service there.
Lau Niu
2004-05-31 05:33:00 UTC
Permalink
hehehe
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
Due to economic problems I am not able to pay the usual S$10.00 for
fucking my mother. I will reduce the payment to S$5.00 per fuck.
Once the public sector rewards itself for its performance, I will
follow suit to reward my fucking mother. So long Mother !
Ceciro
2004-06-04 11:51:24 UTC
Permalink
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

Due to economic problems I am not able to pay the usual S$10.00 for
fucking your mother. I will reduce the payment to S$5.00 per fuck.
Once the public sector rewards itself for its performance, I will
follow suit to reward your fucking mother. So long Mother Fucker!

Is there anybody in the National Library Board who has the bloody
mother fucking guts to sack the CIO. I repeat, is there anybody in
the National Library Board who has the bloody mother fucking guts to
sack the CIO.

If not you can cut all these bravado of yours.

Son,
Before faulting with others clean thy closet first. It is impressive
that now you have learned to communicate without profanity. Mother
Fucker keep it up.
Father George Fernandez Sir,
I am a disgrace to the National Library Board
Singapore and the public service sector of Singapore with my fucking
profanity. I am not afraid of my fucking profanity. I will keep throwing the
fucking profanity. I hope somebody in National Library Board will have the gut
to take fucking action against me and terminate my fucking service there.
Ceciro
2004-06-04 15:18:19 UTC
Permalink
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,

Is there anybody in the National Library Board who has the bloody
mother fucking guts to sack the CIO. I repeat, is there anybody in
the National Library Board who has the bloody mother fucking guts to
sack the CIO.

If not you can cut all this bravado of yours.

Son,
Before faulting with others clean thy closet first. It is impressive
that now you have learned to communicate without profanity. Mother
Fucker keep it up.
George Fernandez, I am a disgrace to the National Library Board
Singapore and the public service sector of Singapore with my fucking
profanity. I am not afraid of my fucking profanity. I will keep throwing the
fucking profanity. I hope somebody in National Library Board will have the gut
to take fucking action against me and terminate my fucking service there.
Lau Niu
2004-06-05 08:34:30 UTC
Permalink
disgrace
Post by Ceciro
Dear Bloody Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
Kan_Ne_Nair_George
2004-05-28 00:37:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ceciro
Dear Blooding Fucking Mother Fucking Stupid Racist Bastard,
I am also getting cheap fuck from your mother. My religion is to fuck
your female family members. Get them ready will you? Mother Fucker.
George Fernandez is working in National Library Board in Singapore.
He is a pariah staff of National Library Board. He is an Indian origin
possibly from India working as a programmer. He is currently writing
under
Ceciro and King_Of_KYellow_Khookhoos. His opening always starts with
profanity. Have pity and sympathy on George who has gone cockos.
Google webmaster has terminated his account as George Fernandez due
to excessive profanity and spamming but he continues writing under
Ceciro and
King_Of_KYellow_Khookhoos. If anyone who is offended by his profanity,
wants to write a complaint to the authority here about him please do
so. I am forwarding his post to all the persons listed below. He has
been warned before and it's about time we take back our scs from
people like him. Here are the emails of the people you can write
to:

Prime Minister Office: ***@pmo.gov.sg
Public Service Department: ***@psd.gov.sg
NLB : ***@nlb.gov.sg
Webmaster of NLB: ***@NLB.GOV.SG
King_Of_KYellow_Khookhoos
2004-05-26 14:59:07 UTC
Permalink
Can I fuck thy mother deep inside once more ?
Kan_Ne_Nair_George
2004-05-27 05:13:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by King_Of_KYellow_Khookhoos
Can I fuck thy mother deep inside once more ?
George Fernandez is working in National Library Board in Singapore.
He is a pariah staff of National Library Board. He is an Indian origin
possibly from India working as a programmer. He is writing under
Ceciro and King_Of_KYellow_Khookhoos. His opening always starts with
profanity. Have pity and sympathy on George who has gone cockos.
Google webmaster has terminated his account as George Fernandez due
to excessive profanity and spamming but he is writing under Ceciro and
King_Of_KYellow_Khookhoos. If anyone who is offended by his profanity,
wants to write a complaint to the authority here about him please do
so. He has been warned before and it's about time we take back our scs
from people like him. Here are the emails of the people you can write
to:

Prime Minister Office: ***@pmo.gov.sg
Public Service Department: ***@psd.gov.sg
NLB : ***@nlb.gov.sg
Webmaster of NLB: ***@NLB.GOV.SG
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