Discussion:
An Open Letter To Mother (f**king) Theresa
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quibbler
2007-08-28 22:18:09 UTC
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Dear So-called Mother Theresa,

I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that you're
not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you, there is
no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.

But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts. Most
people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan upon
seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest sections of
the world. You got to experience this to a limited extent. Imagine how
people who actually had die in your clinics, with no pain killers or
family visits, as per your directives, might have felt. They must have
really doubted god, despite your attempts to proselytize to them at their
most vulnerable moments.

Still, I am gratified to know that even you found it hard to believe.
After all, the Roman Catholic Church has some pretty incredible whoppers
that it tells. It's no wonder that you doubted throughout your life, all
the way up to your death.

What's not okay, however, is that fact that you outwardly pretended that
you did not doubt, when in the public eye. You advocated for an
organization which lived in opulence and asked others to sacrifice. You
actively promoted their agenda which said that death and epidemic were
better than condom usage. You savagely vilified those responsible enough
to practice family planning, even though such actions would have been
far and away more effective at reducing poverty and suffering than your
entire life's work in Calcutta. In short, you arrogantly claimed
certainty on matters for which you had grave doubts. The Jesus portrayed
in the New Testament might have called you a hypocrite for that (except
for the fact that he never existed). I merely lament that you were a
tool and a pawn in the great con known as christianity. Did you so badly
crave the false label of saint that nothing else mattered to you? If so
then you're not nearly as selfless as you attempted to portray yourself
either. You were in it for the fame and personal glory. Of course,
because of your own, self-selected route to get it, you could not very
easily attempt to indulge in your success, because living the high life
would make you look less saintly.

In any event, thank you for the service you have provided to secular and
skeptical movements all around the world. Your example has provided us
with a formidable arsenal with which we can assail the church that you
were too cowardly to oppose in public. I hope this same church is so out
of touch that they actually do make you a saint. It will point up the
worthlessness of that institution as well. You couldn't have done a
better job had you been an EAC sleeper cell agent. Then again, on second
thought, forget that I said that...;))))
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
Mark Earnest
2007-08-29 00:02:07 UTC
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Post by quibbler
Dear So-called Mother Theresa,
I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that you're
not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you, there is
no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.
But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts. Most
people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan upon
seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest sections of
the world. You got to experience this to a limited extent. Imagine how
people who actually had die in your clinics, with no pain killers or
family visits, as per your directives, might have felt. They must have
really doubted god, despite your attempts to proselytize to them at their
most vulnerable moments.
She tried the best she could with what she had.
She gave her life to the poor.
She sought honor only from God.
She has already read your letter,
and is currently praying for all atheists worldwide,
and she thanks you for the publicity.
Thandarr
2007-08-29 01:27:18 UTC
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Post by Mark Earnest
Post by quibbler
Dear So-called Mother Theresa,
I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that you're
not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you, there is
no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.
But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts. Most
people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan upon
seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest sections of
the world. You got to experience this to a limited extent. Imagine how
people who actually had die in your clinics, with no pain killers or
family visits, as per your directives, might have felt. They must have
really doubted god, despite your attempts to proselytize to them at their
most vulnerable moments.
She tried the best she could with what she had.
She gave her life to the poor.
She sought honor only from God.
She has already read your letter,
and is currently praying for all atheists worldwide,
and she thanks you for the publicity.
Mother Theresa reads Usenet? She must be in Hell.

Thandarr
Matt Silberstein
2007-08-29 01:41:23 UTC
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 01:27:18 -0000, in alt.atheism , Thandarr
Post by Thandarr
Post by Mark Earnest
Post by quibbler
Dear So-called Mother Theresa,
I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that you're
not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you, there is
no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.
But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts. Most
people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan upon
seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest sections of
the world. You got to experience this to a limited extent. Imagine how
people who actually had die in your clinics, with no pain killers or
family visits, as per your directives, might have felt. They must have
really doubted god, despite your attempts to proselytize to them at their
most vulnerable moments.
She tried the best she could with what she had.
She gave her life to the poor.
She sought honor only from God.
She has already read your letter,
and is currently praying for all atheists worldwide,
and she thanks you for the publicity.
Mother Theresa reads Usenet? She must be in Hell.
Why, this is Hell nor am I out of it.
--
Matt Silberstein

Do something today about the Darfur Genocide

http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org

"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
Mark Earnest
2007-08-29 02:39:33 UTC
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Post by Thandarr
Post by Mark Earnest
Post by quibbler
Dear So-called Mother Theresa,
I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that you're
not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you, there is
no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.
But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts. Most
people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan upon
seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest sections of
the world. You got to experience this to a limited extent. Imagine how
people who actually had die in your clinics, with no pain killers or
family visits, as per your directives, might have felt. They must have
really doubted god, despite your attempts to proselytize to them at their
most vulnerable moments.
She tried the best she could with what she had.
She gave her life to the poor.
She sought honor only from God.
She has already read your letter,
and is currently praying for all atheists worldwide,
and she thanks you for the publicity.
Mother Theresa reads Usenet? She must be in Hell.
Heaven isn't exactly heaven yet.
It needs to be built in men's hearts.
Doc Smartass
2007-08-29 03:10:20 UTC
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Post by Mark Earnest
Post by quibbler
Dear So-called Mother Theresa,
I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that
you're not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you,
there is no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.
But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts.
Most people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan
upon seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest
sections of the world. You got to experience this to a limited
extent. Imagine how people who actually had die in your clinics,
with no pain killers or family visits, as per your directives, might
have felt. They must have really doubted god, despite your attempts
to proselytize to them at their most vulnerable moments.
She tried the best she could with what she had.
..by hoarding the money and denying medical care to the sick--but she got
top-fucking-notch care herself if she got so much as a sniffle.
Post by Mark Earnest
She gave her life to the poor.
No. She gave the lives of the poor to her church and her god.
Post by Mark Earnest
She sought honor only from God.
Heh.
Post by Mark Earnest
She has already read your letter,
and is currently praying for all atheists worldwide,
and she thanks you for the publicity.
Wormfood tells no tales.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939

No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices.

--Edward R. Murrow
quibbler
2007-08-29 03:16:17 UTC
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In article <***@corp.supernews.com>, ***@yahoo.com
says...
Post by Mark Earnest
Post by quibbler
Dear So-called Mother Theresa,
I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that you're
not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you, there is
no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.
But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts. Most
people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan upon
seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest sections of
the world. You got to experience this to a limited extent. Imagine how
people who actually had die in your clinics, with no pain killers or
family visits, as per your directives, might have felt. They must have
really doubted god, despite your attempts to proselytize to them at their
most vulnerable moments.
She tried the best she could with what she had.
As do atheists. No gods are needed. We do the best we can. Helping the
poor is a secular act that requires no religious nonsense to embellish
it.
Post by Mark Earnest
She gave her life to the poor.
No she didn't. Huge amounts of money were funnelled out of her
convents. She also accepted money from the likes of the Duvalier regime
in Haiti. In any event, her service to the poor was ineffective,
compared to smarter actions and was tainted with her dogmatic agenda of
bribery for the purposes of conversion.
Post by Mark Earnest
She sought honor only from God.
No, she sought temporal honors as well, which is why she lied about her
beliefs. She did not deserve the Nobel Prize whatsoever, and knew
nothing about peace, but accepted it anyway. She actually claimed that
the greatest threat to world peace was abortion, which is an utterly
ridiculous position to take. She claimed that "condoms murder love",
while not worrying about those murdered by HIV and other diseases who
followed her advice.
Post by Mark Earnest
She has already read your letter,
Then she has already read this instruction to kiss my ass.
Post by Mark Earnest
and is currently praying for all atheists worldwide,
Including herself, apparently. It's not clear how you know any of this,
but I'll humor you for the moment.
Post by Mark Earnest
and she thanks you for the publicity.
I thank her for destroying her own reputation and her life's work. We
couldn't have done it nearly so easily as she has managed to do all by
herself.
Mark Earnest
2007-08-29 04:00:30 UTC
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"quibbler" wrote...
Post by quibbler
It's not clear how you know any of this,
Just as it is not clear how you knew you were writing to Mother Theresa.
quibbler
2007-08-29 06:55:38 UTC
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In article <***@corp.supernews.com>, ***@yahoo.com
says...
Post by Mark Earnest
"quibbler" wrote...
Post by quibbler
It's not clear how you know any of this,
Just as it is not clear how you knew you were writing to Mother Theresa.
No, I did make that clear. Unlike you, I'm not actually under the
delusion that this dead woman can read what I wrote. I'm really writing
to her followers, who are still dumb enough to buy the phony image that
the church has generated of her. Hope that helps, you fucking moron.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
Michael Gray
2007-08-29 09:00:25 UTC
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Post by quibbler
says...
Post by Mark Earnest
"quibbler" wrote...
Post by quibbler
It's not clear how you know any of this,
Just as it is not clear how you knew you were writing to Mother Theresa.
No, I did make that clear. Unlike you, I'm not actually under the
delusion that this dead woman can read what I wrote. I'm really writing
to her followers, who are still dumb enough to buy the phony image that
the church has generated of her. Hope that helps, you fucking moron.
Oh, how you just insulted the population of morons!
quibbler
2007-08-29 18:57:43 UTC
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Post by Michael Gray
Post by quibbler
says...
Post by Mark Earnest
"quibbler" wrote...
Post by quibbler
It's not clear how you know any of this,
Just as it is not clear how you knew you were writing to Mother Theresa.
No, I did make that clear. Unlike you, I'm not actually under the
delusion that this dead woman can read what I wrote. I'm really writing
to her followers, who are still dumb enough to buy the phony image that
the church has generated of her. Hope that helps, you fucking moron.
Oh, how you just insulted the population of morons!
Usually dookie takes umbrage, since he's the biggest moron in the
universe. But Markie gives dookie a run for his money.
Michael Gray
2007-08-29 21:46:56 UTC
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Post by quibbler
Post by Michael Gray
Post by quibbler
says...
Post by Mark Earnest
"quibbler" wrote...
Post by quibbler
It's not clear how you know any of this,
Just as it is not clear how you knew you were writing to Mother Theresa.
No, I did make that clear. Unlike you, I'm not actually under the
delusion that this dead woman can read what I wrote. I'm really writing
to her followers, who are still dumb enough to buy the phony image that
the church has generated of her. Hope that helps, you fucking moron.
Oh, how you just insulted the population of morons!
Usually dookie takes umbrage, since he's the biggest moron in the
universe. But Markie gives dookie a run for his money.
They should start a club.

And then beat themselves senseless with it.
Oops, too late...
Barry OGrady
2007-09-04 07:05:11 UTC
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Post by Mark Earnest
Post by quibbler
Dear So-called Mother Theresa,
I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that you're
not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you, there is
no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.
But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts. Most
people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan upon
seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest sections of
the world. You got to experience this to a limited extent. Imagine how
people who actually had die in your clinics, with no pain killers or
family visits, as per your directives, might have felt. They must have
really doubted god, despite your attempts to proselytize to them at their
most vulnerable moments.
She tried the best she could with what she had.
She gave her life to the poor.
She sought honor only from God.
She has already read your letter,
and is currently praying for all atheists worldwide,
and she thanks you for the publicity.
Christianity is proof of life, of a sort, after brain death.

Barry
=====
Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
I do not represent atheists or atheism
Michael Gray
2007-09-04 07:43:02 UTC
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:05:11 +1000, Barry OGrady
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by Mark Earnest
Post by quibbler
Dear So-called Mother Theresa,
I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that you're
not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you, there is
no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.
But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts. Most
people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan upon
seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest sections of
the world. You got to experience this to a limited extent. Imagine how
people who actually had die in your clinics, with no pain killers or
family visits, as per your directives, might have felt. They must have
really doubted god, despite your attempts to proselytize to them at their
most vulnerable moments.
She tried the best she could with what she had.
She gave her life to the poor.
She sought honor only from God.
She has already read your letter,
and is currently praying for all atheists worldwide,
and she thanks you for the publicity.
Christianity is proof of life, of a sort, after brain death.
I call it 'existing as a zombie' rather than living, but expect that
is what you were aiming at.
Stephen Knight
2007-08-29 02:51:09 UTC
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Post by quibbler
Dear So-called Mother Theresa,
I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that you're
not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you, there is
no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.
But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts. Most
people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan upon
seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest sections of
the world. You got to experience this to a limited extent. Imagine how
people who actually had die in your clinics, with no pain killers or
family visits, as per your directives, might have felt. They must have
really doubted god, despite your attempts to proselytize to them at their
most vulnerable moments.
Still, I am gratified to know that even you found it hard to believe.
After all, the Roman Catholic Church has some pretty incredible whoppers
that it tells. It's no wonder that you doubted throughout your life, all
the way up to your death.
What's not okay, however, is that fact that you outwardly pretended that
you did not doubt, when in the public eye. You advocated for an
organization which lived in opulence and asked others to sacrifice. You
actively promoted their agenda which said that death and epidemic were
better than condom usage. You savagely vilified those responsible enough
to practice family planning, even though such actions would have been
far and away more effective at reducing poverty and suffering than your
entire life's work in Calcutta. In short, you arrogantly claimed
certainty on matters for which you had grave doubts. The Jesus portrayed
in the New Testament might have called you a hypocrite for that (except
for the fact that he never existed). I merely lament that you were a
tool and a pawn in the great con known as christianity. Did you so badly
crave the false label of saint that nothing else mattered to you? If so
then you're not nearly as selfless as you attempted to portray yourself
either. You were in it for the fame and personal glory. Of course,
because of your own, self-selected route to get it, you could not very
easily attempt to indulge in your success, because living the high life
would make you look less saintly.
In any event, thank you for the service you have provided to secular and
skeptical movements all around the world. Your example has provided us
with a formidable arsenal with which we can assail the church that you
were too cowardly to oppose in public. I hope this same church is so out
of touch that they actually do make you a saint. It will point up the
worthlessness of that institution as well. You couldn't have done a
better job had you been an EAC sleeper cell agent. Then again, on second
thought, forget that I said that...;))))
Your words speak Truth against the horde of liars and superstitious
Con Men.

Bow before Excalibur!

(Taps Quibbler on shoulders...)

Arise! Sir Quibbler!

Take your rightfully earned place at the Table of BAAWA.

Warlord Steve
BAAWA
quibbler
2007-08-29 03:07:57 UTC
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In article <***@4ax.com>, wooly51
@comcast.net says...
Post by Stephen Knight
Post by quibbler
Dear So-called Mother Theresa,
I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that you're
not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you, there is
no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.
But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts. Most
people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan upon
seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest sections of
the world. You got to experience this to a limited extent. Imagine how
people who actually had die in your clinics, with no pain killers or
family visits, as per your directives, might have felt. They must have
really doubted god, despite your attempts to proselytize to them at their
most vulnerable moments.
Still, I am gratified to know that even you found it hard to believe.
After all, the Roman Catholic Church has some pretty incredible whoppers
that it tells. It's no wonder that you doubted throughout your life, all
the way up to your death.
What's not okay, however, is that fact that you outwardly pretended that
you did not doubt, when in the public eye. You advocated for an
organization which lived in opulence and asked others to sacrifice. You
actively promoted their agenda which said that death and epidemic were
better than condom usage. You savagely vilified those responsible enough
to practice family planning, even though such actions would have been
far and away more effective at reducing poverty and suffering than your
entire life's work in Calcutta. In short, you arrogantly claimed
certainty on matters for which you had grave doubts. The Jesus portrayed
in the New Testament might have called you a hypocrite for that (except
for the fact that he never existed). I merely lament that you were a
tool and a pawn in the great con known as christianity. Did you so badly
crave the false label of saint that nothing else mattered to you? If so
then you're not nearly as selfless as you attempted to portray yourself
either. You were in it for the fame and personal glory. Of course,
because of your own, self-selected route to get it, you could not very
easily attempt to indulge in your success, because living the high life
would make you look less saintly.
In any event, thank you for the service you have provided to secular and
skeptical movements all around the world. Your example has provided us
with a formidable arsenal with which we can assail the church that you
were too cowardly to oppose in public. I hope this same church is so out
of touch that they actually do make you a saint. It will point up the
worthlessness of that institution as well. You couldn't have done a
better job had you been an EAC sleeper cell agent. Then again, on second
thought, forget that I said that...;))))
Your words speak Truth against the horde of liars and superstitious
Con Men.
Bow before Excalibur!
(Taps Quibbler on shoulders...)
Arise! Sir Quibbler!
Thank you, your Excellency Steve. I accept this knighthood, though I
think I have been knighted before as well. I will endeavor to use my
knightly title of "Sir Quibbler the Anti-Crusader of BAWAA"
p***@hotmail.com
2007-08-31 00:36:57 UTC
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Post by quibbler
@comcast.net says...
Post by Stephen Knight
Post by quibbler
Dear So-called Mother Theresa,
I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that you're
not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you, there is
no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.
But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts. Most
people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan upon
seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest sections of
the world. You got to experience this to a limited extent. Imagine how
people who actually had die in your clinics, with no pain killers or
family visits, as per your directives, might have felt. They must have
really doubted god, despite your attempts to proselytize to them at their
most vulnerable moments.
Still, I am gratified to know that even you found it hard to believe.
After all, the Roman Catholic Church has some pretty incredible whoppers
that it tells. It's no wonder that you doubted throughout your life, all
the way up to your death.
What's not okay, however, is that fact that you outwardly pretended that
you did not doubt, when in the public eye. You advocated for an
organization which lived in opulence and asked others to sacrifice. You
actively promoted their agenda which said that death and epidemic were
better than condom usage. You savagely vilified those responsible enough
to practice family planning, even though such actions would have been
far and away more effective at reducing poverty and suffering than your
entire life's work in Calcutta. In short, you arrogantly claimed
certainty on matters for which you had grave doubts. The Jesus portrayed
in the New Testament might have called you a hypocrite for that (except
for the fact that he never existed). I merely lament that you were a
tool and a pawn in the great con known as christianity. Did you so badly
crave the false label of saint that nothing else mattered to you? If so
then you're not nearly as selfless as you attempted to portray yourself
either. You were in it for the fame and personal glory. Of course,
because of your own, self-selected route to get it, you could not very
easily attempt to indulge in your success, because living the high life
would make you look less saintly.
In any event, thank you for the service you have provided to secular and
skeptical movements all around the world. Your example has provided us
with a formidable arsenal with which we can assail the church that you
were too cowardly to oppose in public. I hope this same church is so out
of touch that they actually do make you a saint. It will point up the
worthlessness of that institution as well. You couldn't have done a
better job had you been an EAC sleeper cell agent. Then again, on second
thought, forget that I said that...;))))
Your words speak Truth against the horde of liars and superstitious
Con Men.
Bow before Excalibur!
(Taps Quibbler on shoulders...)
Arise! Sir Quibbler!
Thank you, your Excellency Steve. I accept this knighthood, though I
think I have been knighted before as well. I will endeavor to use my
knightly title of "Sir Quibbler the Anti-Crusader of BAWAA"
Welcome to the table, quib! You certainly earned it with that one! I
think we should have it printed and distributed. I think now that the
truth is out, they'll suddenly "discover" her bad deeds in India and
blame those on us as well.

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
2007-08-29 03:15:33 UTC
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Post by Stephen Knight
Your words speak Truth against the horde of liars and superstitious
Con Men.
Bow before Excalibur!
(Taps Quibbler on shoulders...)
Arise! Sir Quibbler!
Take your rightfully earned place at the Table of BAAWA.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Congratulations Quibbler!

Klazmon.
Michael Gray
2007-08-29 04:37:04 UTC
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On 29 Aug 2007 15:15:33 +1200, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
Post by Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
Post by Stephen Knight
Your words speak Truth against the horde of liars and superstitious
Con Men.
Bow before Excalibur!
(Taps Quibbler on shoulders...)
Arise! Sir Quibbler!
Take your rightfully earned place at the Table of BAAWA.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Congratulations Quibbler!
That's "SIR Q." to you, bud! ;)
Doc Smartass
2007-08-31 00:32:37 UTC
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<snippity>
Post by Stephen Knight
Post by quibbler
In any event, thank you for the service you have provided to secular
and skeptical movements all around the world. Your example has
provided us with a formidable arsenal with which we can assail the
church that you were too cowardly to oppose in public. I hope this
same church is so out of touch that they actually do make you a saint.
It will point up the worthlessness of that institution as well. You
couldn't have done a better job had you been an EAC sleeper cell
agent. Then again, on second thought, forget that I said that...;))))
Your words speak Truth against the horde of liars and superstitious
Con Men.
Bow before Excalibur!
(Taps Quibbler on shoulders...)
Arise! Sir Quibbler!
Take your rightfully earned place at the Table of BAAWA.
w0000000t!!
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939

No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices.

--Edward R. Murrow
Verizon
2007-08-30 21:16:51 UTC
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Jesus did exist and there are secular records...any way, who cares about
your nonesene...when you can hold a candle to such a woman (and you seem
like a woman hater) then you might complain. Faith means that there are
doubts..of course, the entire thing is so clear to you, afterall, you think
you are God.
Post by quibbler
Dear So-called Mother Theresa,
I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that you're
not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you, there is
no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.
But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts. Most
people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan upon
seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest sections of
the world. You got to experience this to a limited extent. Imagine how
people who actually had die in your clinics, with no pain killers or
family visits, as per your directives, might have felt. They must have
really doubted god, despite your attempts to proselytize to them at their
most vulnerable moments.
Still, I am gratified to know that even you found it hard to believe.
After all, the Roman Catholic Church has some pretty incredible whoppers
that it tells. It's no wonder that you doubted throughout your life, all
the way up to your death.
What's not okay, however, is that fact that you outwardly pretended that
you did not doubt, when in the public eye. You advocated for an
organization which lived in opulence and asked others to sacrifice. You
actively promoted their agenda which said that death and epidemic were
better than condom usage. You savagely vilified those responsible enough
to practice family planning, even though such actions would have been
far and away more effective at reducing poverty and suffering than your
entire life's work in Calcutta. In short, you arrogantly claimed
certainty on matters for which you had grave doubts. The Jesus portrayed
in the New Testament might have called you a hypocrite for that (except
for the fact that he never existed). I merely lament that you were a
tool and a pawn in the great con known as christianity. Did you so badly
crave the false label of saint that nothing else mattered to you? If so
then you're not nearly as selfless as you attempted to portray yourself
either. You were in it for the fame and personal glory. Of course,
because of your own, self-selected route to get it, you could not very
easily attempt to indulge in your success, because living the high life
would make you look less saintly.
In any event, thank you for the service you have provided to secular and
skeptical movements all around the world. Your example has provided us
with a formidable arsenal with which we can assail the church that you
were too cowardly to oppose in public. I hope this same church is so out
of touch that they actually do make you a saint. It will point up the
worthlessness of that institution as well. You couldn't have done a
better job had you been an EAC sleeper cell agent. Then again, on second
thought, forget that I said that...;))))
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
Christopher A.Lee
2007-08-30 21:22:43 UTC
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Post by Verizon
Jesus did exist and there are secular records.
Provide them. You'll be the first.
Post by Verizon
..any way, who cares about
your nonesene
What "nonsense", liar?
Post by Verizon
...when you can hold a candle to such a woman (and you seem
Quibbler hasn't obtained money for the church under false pretences,
including from a looted savings and loan. Nor has he refused
painkillers to the dying because "pain is Jesus kissing you" while
himself flying to the US for hospitalisation in a private jet. Nor has
he exacerbated the problem of the urban poor living on the streets by
preaching against birth control. Nor caused deaths from suicide and
botched abortions among rape victims he was supposed to be helping.
Post by Verizon
like a woman hater) then you might complain.
And you don't just seem like a deliberately nasty liar, you are one.
Post by Verizon
Faith means that there are
doubts..of course,
Faith is an excuse for an unjustified certainty. It's worthless.
Post by Verizon
the entire thing is so clear to you, afterall, you think
you are God.
Don't be so fucking stupid.
Post by Verizon
Post by quibbler
Dear So-called Mother Theresa,
I know that you were never really a mother, and I also know that you're
not around to actually read this letter. Fortunately for you, there is
no hell for you to go to, in punishment for your apostacy.
But I still wanted to say that it's okay for you to have doubts. Most
people do. Indeed, how could a person not doubt a divine plan upon
seeing the squalor and misery which prevails in the poorest sections of
the world. You got to experience this to a limited extent. Imagine how
people who actually had die in your clinics, with no pain killers or
family visits, as per your directives, might have felt. They must have
really doubted god, despite your attempts to proselytize to them at their
most vulnerable moments.
Still, I am gratified to know that even you found it hard to believe.
After all, the Roman Catholic Church has some pretty incredible whoppers
that it tells. It's no wonder that you doubted throughout your life, all
the way up to your death.
What's not okay, however, is that fact that you outwardly pretended that
you did not doubt, when in the public eye. You advocated for an
organization which lived in opulence and asked others to sacrifice. You
actively promoted their agenda which said that death and epidemic were
better than condom usage. You savagely vilified those responsible enough
to practice family planning, even though such actions would have been
far and away more effective at reducing poverty and suffering than your
entire life's work in Calcutta. In short, you arrogantly claimed
certainty on matters for which you had grave doubts. The Jesus portrayed
in the New Testament might have called you a hypocrite for that (except
for the fact that he never existed). I merely lament that you were a
tool and a pawn in the great con known as christianity. Did you so badly
crave the false label of saint that nothing else mattered to you? If so
then you're not nearly as selfless as you attempted to portray yourself
either. You were in it for the fame and personal glory. Of course,
because of your own, self-selected route to get it, you could not very
easily attempt to indulge in your success, because living the high life
would make you look less saintly.
In any event, thank you for the service you have provided to secular and
skeptical movements all around the world. Your example has provided us
with a formidable arsenal with which we can assail the church that you
were too cowardly to oppose in public. I hope this same church is so out
of touch that they actually do make you a saint. It will point up the
worthlessness of that institution as well. You couldn't have done a
better job had you been an EAC sleeper cell agent. Then again, on second
thought, forget that I said that...;))))
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
p***@hotmail.com
2007-08-31 00:43:14 UTC
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Post by Verizon
Jesus did exist and there are secular records...
This shit again? Josephus is a forgery, probably by Bishop Eusibius.
And Tacitus simply mentions that *Christians* exist. We already knew
there were Christians in the first century CE.

Don't *any* of you idiots do your homework before posting this stuff?

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
Michael Gray
2007-08-31 05:45:47 UTC
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Post by p***@hotmail.com
Post by Verizon
Jesus did exist and there are secular records...
This shit again? Josephus is a forgery, probably by Bishop Eusibius.
And Tacitus simply mentions that *Christians* exist. We already knew
there were Christians in the first century CE.
Even that is not established as fact, and is very likely a deliberate
mistranslation of a common term for 'slave'.

The truth is that there is NO (XERO) extant evidence for any form of
Christianty (let alone the fictional Jesus), prior to the 3rd or
possibly the 4th century.

If you have any, I will pay you $1million for it right away.
Post by p***@hotmail.com
Don't *any* of you idiots do your homework before posting this stuff?
These mentally crippled bozos don't need research, or even 'thinking'.
They have blind superstition on their side.
p***@hotmail.com
2007-09-01 00:17:37 UTC
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Post by Michael Gray
Post by p***@hotmail.com
Post by Verizon
Jesus did exist and there are secular records...
This shit again? Josephus is a forgery, probably by Bishop Eusibius.
And Tacitus simply mentions that *Christians* exist. We already knew
there were Christians in the first century CE.
Even that is not established as fact, and is very likely a deliberate
mistranslation of a common term for 'slave'.
That's what I get for only knowing one language. I'm at the mercy of
the translators.
Post by Michael Gray
The truth is that there is NO (XERO) extant evidence for any form of
Christianty (let alone the fictional Jesus), prior to the 3rd or
possibly the 4th century.
If you have any, I will pay you $1million for it right away.
Post by p***@hotmail.com
Don't *any* of you idiots do your homework before posting this stuff?
These mentally crippled bozos don't need research, or even 'thinking'.
They have blind superstition on their side.
No better than tribesmen in the desert going "booga-booga-booga" for
rain. Oh well, at least they're housebroken...

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
Michael Gray
2007-08-31 00:54:53 UTC
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Post by Verizon
Jesus did exist and there are secular records...
:

Thi is an outright lie.
There are zero contemporary extant records of any kind.

I thought that lying was prohibited in your cult?
quibbler
2007-08-31 13:54:49 UTC
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Post by Michael Gray
I thought that lying was prohibited in your cult?
<snork>
Ah Mikey my boy, lying couldn't possibly be prohibited in ChristInsanity.
It's a fricken holy sacrament. Their cult wouldn't exist without a cadre
of professional liars, known variously by terms like 'cardinal',
'monsignor', 'pope', 'priest' and 'theologian'. The lay folk are
expected to lie to themselves at least five times a day while bowing in
the direction of the Vati-con. You must not have the new Opus Dei
Operations Manual yet.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
p***@standardregister.com
2007-09-01 21:07:40 UTC
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Post by quibbler
Post by Michael Gray
I thought that lying was prohibited in your cult?
<snork>
Ah Mikey my boy, lying couldn't possibly be prohibited in ChristInsanity.
It's a fricken holy sacrament. Their cult wouldn't exist without a cadre
of professional liars, known variously by terms like 'cardinal',
'monsignor', 'pope', 'priest' and 'theologian'. The lay folk are
expected to lie to themselves at least five times a day while bowing in
the direction of the Vati-con. You must not have the new Opus Dei
Operations Manual yet.
Can you give some examples of these lies? I haven't heard of any
institutionalized lying in Christianity.
p***@hotmail.com
2007-09-01 21:24:22 UTC
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Post by p***@standardregister.com
Post by quibbler
Post by Michael Gray
I thought that lying was prohibited in your cult?
<snork>
Ah Mikey my boy, lying couldn't possibly be prohibited in ChristInsanity.
It's a fricken holy sacrament. Their cult wouldn't exist without a cadre
of professional liars, known variously by terms like 'cardinal',
'monsignor', 'pope', 'priest' and 'theologian'. The lay folk are
expected to lie to themselves at least five times a day while bowing in
the direction of the Vati-con. You must not have the new Opus Dei
Operations Manual yet.
Can you give some examples of these lies? I haven't heard of any
institutionalized lying in Christianity.
There is the case of the story about a man being born of a virgin and
rising from the dead after three days. Modern scholarship shows that
it's a myth caused by the collision between ancient paganism and a
strange new Bronze Age idea called "monotheism".

http://home.earthlink.net/~pgwhacker/ChristianOrigins/
http://mama.indstate.edu/users/nizrael/jesusrefutation.html
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/christian.htm
http://www.jesuspuzzle.com/

Yet even though this story has been discredited by modern archeology
and historical scholarship, people still earn a living by the
perpetration of this fraud.

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
wolf28
2007-09-04 11:57:46 UTC
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Post by p***@hotmail.com
Post by p***@standardregister.com
Post by quibbler
Post by Michael Gray
I thought that lying was prohibited in your cult?
<snork>
Ah Mikey my boy, lying couldn't possibly be prohibited in ChristInsanity.
It's a fricken holy sacrament. Their cult wouldn't exist without a cadre
of professional liars, known variously by terms like 'cardinal',
'monsignor', 'pope', 'priest' and 'theologian'. The lay folk are
expected to lie to themselves at least five times a day while bowing in
the direction of the Vati-con. You must not have the new Opus Dei
Operations Manual yet.
Can you give some examples of these lies? I haven't heard of any
institutionalized lying in Christianity.
There is the case of the story about a man being born of a virgin and
rising from the dead after three days. Modern scholarship shows that
it's a myth caused by the collision between ancient paganism and a
strange new Bronze Age idea called "monotheism".
http://home.earthlink.net/~pgwhacker/ChristianOrigins/http://mama.indstate.edu/users/nizrael/jesusrefutation.htmlhttp://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/christian.htmhttp://www.jesuspuzzle.com/
Yet even though this story has been discredited by modern archeology
and historical scholarship, people still earn a living by the
perpetration of this fraud.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
http://zeitgeistmovie.com
p***@standardregister.com
2007-09-13 19:34:36 UTC
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Post by p***@hotmail.com
Post by p***@standardregister.com
Post by quibbler
Post by Michael Gray
I thought that lying was prohibited in your cult?
<snork>
Ah Mikey my boy, lying couldn't possibly be prohibited in ChristInsanity.
It's a fricken holy sacrament. Their cult wouldn't exist without a cadre
of professional liars, known variously by terms like 'cardinal',
'monsignor', 'pope', 'priest' and 'theologian'. The lay folk are
expected to lie to themselves at least five times a day while bowing in
the direction of the Vati-con. You must not have the new Opus Dei
Operations Manual yet.
Can you give some examples of these lies? I haven't heard of any
institutionalized lying in Christianity.
There is the case of the story about a man being born of a virgin and
rising from the dead after three days. Modern scholarship shows that
it's a myth caused by the collision between ancient paganism and a
strange new Bronze Age idea called "monotheism".
http://home.earthlink.net/~pgwhacker/ChristianOrigins/http://mama.indstate.edu/users/nizrael/jesusrefutation.htmlhttp://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/christian.htmhttp://www.jesuspuzzle.com/
Yet even though this story has been discredited by modern archeology
and historical scholarship, people still earn a living by the
perpetration of this fraud.
Can you prove that the people who perpetuate this story do not believe
it to be true? That is, after all, what lying is. Whether you
believe in Jesus or not, you cannot correctly call someone who does a
liar. You must show that they profess a belief in Jesus but not
sincerely have that belief in order to demonstrate they are lying.
Al Klein
2007-09-13 21:10:44 UTC
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:34:36 -0700,
Post by p***@standardregister.com
Can you prove that the people who perpetuate this story do not believe
it to be true?
Anyone who believes that it takes 3 days to get from Friday afternoon
to Sunday morning is either too young to be believed, too insane to be
believed or lying.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
- Isaac Asimov
Michael Gray
2007-09-02 01:08:58 UTC
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On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 14:07:40 -0700,
Post by p***@standardregister.com
Post by quibbler
Post by Michael Gray
I thought that lying was prohibited in your cult?
<snork>
Ah Mikey my boy, lying couldn't possibly be prohibited in ChristInsanity.
It's a fricken holy sacrament. Their cult wouldn't exist without a cadre
of professional liars, known variously by terms like 'cardinal',
'monsignor', 'pope', 'priest' and 'theologian'. The lay folk are
expected to lie to themselves at least five times a day while bowing in
the direction of the Vati-con. You must not have the new Opus Dei
Operations Manual yet.
Can you give some examples of these lies? I haven't heard of any
institutionalized lying in Christianity.
1) That prayer works.
quibbler
2007-09-02 21:45:16 UTC
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Post by p***@standardregister.com
Post by quibbler
Post by Michael Gray
I thought that lying was prohibited in your cult?
<snork>
Ah Mikey my boy, lying couldn't possibly be prohibited in ChristInsanity.
It's a fricken holy sacrament. Their cult wouldn't exist without a cadre
of professional liars, known variously by terms like 'cardinal',
'monsignor', 'pope', 'priest' and 'theologian'. The lay folk are
expected to lie to themselves at least five times a day while bowing in
the direction of the Vati-con. You must not have the new Opus Dei
Operations Manual yet.
Can you give some examples of these lies?
Here are the subjects any one of which will produce copious search
results, just for Roman Craplics alone. You may dispute that the entire
organization is committed to these, but even the lying by top leadership
is enough.
Covering up pedophilia and lying about it, claiming that condoms can't
stop viruses like HIV, claiming that birth control pills have all kinds
of unsubstantiated negative health effects on women, claiming that
abortions have all kinds of unsubstantiated health effects upon women,
claiming that you can't be catholic and pro-choice, claiming
infallibility on any matters at all, claiming various miracles from
Lourdes to Fatima, claiming authority that they don't have particularly
with respect to being God's representatives, claiming that exorcisms
really get rid of demons and covering up details of botched exorcisms,
claiming to heal and accomplish various types of magic through prayer,
etc, etc.
Alan Ferris
2007-09-03 06:40:36 UTC
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Post by quibbler
Post by p***@standardregister.com
Post by quibbler
Post by Michael Gray
I thought that lying was prohibited in your cult?
<snork>
Ah Mikey my boy, lying couldn't possibly be prohibited in ChristInsanity.
It's a fricken holy sacrament. Their cult wouldn't exist without a cadre
of professional liars, known variously by terms like 'cardinal',
'monsignor', 'pope', 'priest' and 'theologian'. The lay folk are
expected to lie to themselves at least five times a day while bowing in
the direction of the Vati-con. You must not have the new Opus Dei
Operations Manual yet.
Can you give some examples of these lies?
Here are the subjects any one of which will produce copious search
results, just for Roman Craplics alone. You may dispute that the entire
organization is committed to these, but even the lying by top leadership
is enough.
Covering up pedophilia and lying about it, claiming that condoms can't
stop viruses like HIV, claiming that birth control pills have all kinds
of unsubstantiated negative health effects on women, claiming that
abortions have all kinds of unsubstantiated health effects upon women,
claiming that you can't be catholic and pro-choice, claiming
infallibility on any matters at all, claiming various miracles from
Lourdes to Fatima, claiming authority that they don't have particularly
with respect to being God's representatives, claiming that exorcisms
really get rid of demons and covering up details of botched exorcisms,
claiming to heal and accomplish various types of magic through prayer,
etc, etc.
And remember this is all just to fleece the followers of their money

--
Alan "Ferrit" Ferris

()'.'.'()
( (T) )
( ) . ( )
(")_(")
quibbler
2007-08-31 13:43:47 UTC
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Post by Verizon
Jesus did exist and there are secular records
Which ones, liar? The obvious TF forgery in Josephus? The references to
to a rebel slave named "Chrestus" (meaning excellent) in Suetonius? Give
it your best shot. The pathetically tiny handful of dubious "records"
which are commonly cited have all been debunked extensively by serious
scholars.
Post by Verizon
...when you can hold a candle to such a woman
That's not a bad idea, so long as she's doused in gasoline first. But
I'd want the candle to be on a long pole.
Post by Verizon
(and you seem
like a woman hater)
Oh bullshit. There's no bigger woman-hating institution than the Roman
Craplic Church.
Post by Verizon
then you might complain. Faith means that there are
doubts
No, faith does not mean doubts, Mr. Doubletalk. Surely there will be
doubts in reasonable people, but that is in spite of faith.
Post by Verizon
..of course, the entire thing is so clear to you, afterall, you think
you are God.
No, most religious people worship their own egos and make it into their
god. That's why most religious people just make up whatever bullshit
they please and then insist that it's "god's will". In reality, it's
only their own will, but they have long since ceased to see the
difference.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
Michael Gray
2007-09-01 00:15:50 UTC
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Post by quibbler
Post by Verizon
Jesus did exist and there are secular records
Which ones, liar? The obvious TF forgery in Josephus? The references to
to a rebel slave named "Chrestus" (meaning excellent) in Suetonius?
"Chrestus" translates more as "useful one", rather than "excellent".
And it was not the name of a specific slave, but a common and general
term for a valued slave.

A minor quibble, but worth the didactic exercise.

:
quibbler
2007-09-03 01:36:49 UTC
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Post by Michael Gray
Post by quibbler
Post by Verizon
Jesus did exist and there are secular records
Which ones, liar? The obvious TF forgery in Josephus? The references to
to a rebel slave named "Chrestus" (meaning excellent) in Suetonius?
"Chrestus" translates more as "useful one"
In the case of Jebus it would probably more accurately be translated as
"useful idiot". Then again, I hear that Jebus's lament "Eli, eli lamma
sabachtani" translates literally into "What did my big mouth get my dumb
ass into".
Michael Gray
2007-09-03 08:44:47 UTC
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Post by quibbler
Post by Michael Gray
Post by quibbler
Post by Verizon
Jesus did exist and there are secular records
Which ones, liar? The obvious TF forgery in Josephus? The references to
to a rebel slave named "Chrestus" (meaning excellent) in Suetonius?
"Chrestus" translates more as "useful one"
In the case of Jebus it would probably more accurately be translated as
"useful idiot". Then again, I hear that Jebus's lament "Eli, eli lamma
sabachtani" translates literally into "What did my big mouth get my dumb
ass into".
OK, I am going to have to admit puzzlement here.
What is "Eli, eli lamma sabachtani"?
(Apart from a film and a guitar riff)

Did you mean:
"Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"
- Mat 27:46

Or:

"Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"
- Mar 15:34

...or did you slip on the 'm' key?

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quibbler
2007-09-03 23:53:21 UTC
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Post by Michael Gray
Post by quibbler
Post by Michael Gray
Post by quibbler
Post by Verizon
Jesus did exist and there are secular records
Which ones, liar? The obvious TF forgery in Josephus? The references to
to a rebel slave named "Chrestus" (meaning excellent) in Suetonius?
"Chrestus" translates more as "useful one"
In the case of Jebus it would probably more accurately be translated as
"useful idiot". Then again, I hear that Jebus's lament "Eli, eli lamma
sabachtani" translates literally into "What did my big mouth get my dumb
ass into".
OK, I am going to have to admit puzzlement here.
What is "Eli, eli lamma sabachtani"?
(Apart from a film and a guitar riff)
"Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"
- Mat 27:46
"Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"
- Mar 15:34
One sees it either way. Do you dispute my translation of it? I realize
I may have taken *slight* liberties above.
Michael Gray
2007-09-04 06:21:42 UTC
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Post by quibbler
Post by Michael Gray
Post by quibbler
Post by Michael Gray
Post by quibbler
Post by Verizon
Jesus did exist and there are secular records
Which ones, liar? The obvious TF forgery in Josephus? The references to
to a rebel slave named "Chrestus" (meaning excellent) in Suetonius?
"Chrestus" translates more as "useful one"
In the case of Jebus it would probably more accurately be translated as
"useful idiot". Then again, I hear that Jebus's lament "Eli, eli lamma
sabachtani" translates literally into "What did my big mouth get my dumb
ass into".
OK, I am going to have to admit puzzlement here.
What is "Eli, eli lamma sabachtani"?
(Apart from a film and a guitar riff)
"Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"
- Mat 27:46
"Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"
- Mar 15:34
One sees it either way. Do you dispute my translation of it?
Not at all.
Merely your spelling of the original.
Post by quibbler
I realize
I may have taken *slight* liberties above.
Yes. I would have used 'donkey' instead of 'ass'.. ;)
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