Barack HUSSEIN Obama Made The Peace "Prize" Into a Worthless Peace of Shit

On Thu, 24 May 2018 17:42:42 +0100, PIBB says...

THERE GOES TRUMP'S NOBEL PRIZE!

Only that fathead could have thought he was really going to get the
Nobel.

PIBB

2018-05-24 22:33:12 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 17:42:42 +0100, PIBB says...

THERE GOES TRUMP'S NOBEL PRIZE!

Only that fathead could have thought he was really going to get
the Nobel.

"People are saying I should get the Nobel prize" - Donald J. Trump

Those voices you hear are only in your head, Donald.

AlleyCat

2018-05-24 20:39:47 UTC

On Thu, 24 May 2018 23:33:12 +0100, PIBB says...

Post by PIBB

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 17:42:42 +0100, PIBB says...

THERE GOES TRUMP'S NOBEL PRIZE!

Only that fathead could have thought he was really going to get
the Nobel.

Post by PIBB

Post by AlleyCat
"People are saying I should get the Nobel prize" - Donald J. Trump

Those voices you hear are only in your head, Donald.

I knew you couldn't do it. Liberal fails again.

--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in hate with Russia
these days. They LOVED Russian politics, i.e., Socialism/Communism until
Trump whooped that wide-load Clinton's fat ass. Fucking hypocrites.

Mitchell Holman

2018-05-25 02:02:41 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 23:33:12 +0100, PIBB says...

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 17:42:42 +0100, PIBB says...

THERE GOES TRUMP'S NOBEL PRIZE!

Only that fathead could have thought he was really going to get
the Nobel.

Heard anything from Bin Laden recently?

He actually made things

Post by AlleyCat
WORSE when he didn't leave a "Status of Forces" agreement in place
when we left Iraq, causing ISIS to form and take over the region.

Ahem.

ISIS was formed after Bush invaded Iraq
and blew up the political structure there.
Obama had nothing to do with it.

What is ISIS, Where did it Come From, and When Did
the US Know it was There?
August 20, 2014

In 2003, al Zarkawis "Group for Monotheism and
Holy War "(JTJ) bombed the UN Headquarters in
Baghdad, killing 34 people. In 2006, after al
Zarkawi was killed, the group became the Islamic
State of Iraq (ISI) under the control of Abu
Abdullah al-Rashid al-Baghdadi and Abu Ayyub
al-Masri, an Egyptian. The American "surge" in
Iraq pushed ISI across the border to Syria in
2006/7.

http://tinyurl.com/j24yye2

AlleyCat

2018-05-25 01:28:15 UTC

On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:02:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman
ISIS was formed after Bush invaded Iraq
and blew up the political structure there.
Obama had nothing to do with it.

We never even HEARD of ISIS (regardless of when they were pushed out of
Iraq), until Bush was OUT of office and Obama cut and ran from Iraq and
left without a "Status of Forces" in place.

Your article was printed after Obama had been in office SIX years... six
years of ISIS getting stronger and stronger DAILY.

Mitchell Holman

2018-05-25 12:02:18 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:02:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman
ISIS was formed after Bush invaded Iraq
and blew up the political structure there.
Obama had nothing to do with it.

We never even HEARD of ISIS (regardless of when they were pushed out of
Iraq), until Bush was OUT of office and Obama cut and ran from Iraq and
left without a "Status of Forces" in place.
Your article was printed after Obama had been in office SIX years... six
years of ISIS getting stronger and stronger DAILY.

You claimed ISIS was formed under Obama.

Post by AlleyCat
Name ONE thing Obama did for world peace. He actually made things
WORSE when he didn't leave a "Status of Forces" agreement in place
when we left Iraq, causing ISIS to form and take over the region.

The posted proof shows you are wrong.

ISIS Timeline:
2004 - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi establishes al
Qaeda in Iraq (AQI).

2006 - Under al-Zarqawi, al Qaeda in Iraq
tries to ignite a sectarian war against the
majority Shia community.

June 7, 2006 - Al-Zarqawi is killed in a U.S.
strike. Abu Ayyub al-Masri, also known as Abu
Hamza al-Muhajer, takes his place as leader
of AQI.

October 2006 - AQI leader Abu Ayyub al-Masri
announces the creation of Islamic State of
Iraq (ISI), and establishes Abu Omar al-Baghdadi
as its leader.

http://tinyurl.com/qd5mv2r

David Hartung

2018-05-25 13:08:10 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:02:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman
ISIS was formed after Bush invaded Iraq
and blew up the political structure there.
Obama had nothing to do with it.

We never even HEARD of ISIS (regardless of when they were pushed out of
Iraq), until Bush was OUT of office and Obama cut and ran from Iraq and
left without a "Status of Forces" in place.
Your article was printed after Obama had been in office SIX years...

six

Post by AlleyCat
years of ISIS getting stronger and stronger DAILY.

You claimed ISIS was formed under Obama.

The posted proof shows you are wrong.
2004 - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi establishes al
Qaeda in Iraq (AQI).
2006 - Under al-Zarqawi, al Qaeda in Iraq
tries to ignite a sectarian war against the
majority Shia community.
June 7, 2006 - Al-Zarqawi is killed in a U.S.
strike. Abu Ayyub al-Masri, also known as Abu
Hamza al-Muhajer, takes his place as leader
of AQI.
October 2006 - AQI leader Abu Ayyub al-Masri
announces the creation of Islamic State of
Iraq (ISI), and establishes Abu Omar al-Baghdadi
as its leader.
http://tinyurl.com/qd5mv2r

Mind posting that proof?

Siri Cruise

2018-05-25 13:30:43 UTC

Post by David Hartung

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:02:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman
ISIS was formed after Bush invaded Iraq
and blew up the political structure there.
Obama had nothing to do with it.

We never even HEARD of ISIS (regardless of when they were pushed out of
Iraq), until Bush was OUT of office and Obama cut and ran from Iraq and
left without a "Status of Forces" in place.
Your article was printed after Obama had been in office SIX years...

six

Post by AlleyCat
years of ISIS getting stronger and stronger DAILY.

You claimed ISIS was formed under Obama.

Mind posting that proof?

You can lead a wingnut to knowledge, but you can't make them learn.

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Rudy Canoza

2018-05-25 15:40:22 UTC

Post by David Hartung

On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:02:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

ISIS was formed after Bush invaded Iraq
and blew up the political structure there.
Obama had nothing to do with it.

We never even HEARD of ISIS (regardless of when they were pushed out of
Iraq), until Bush was OUT of office and Obama cut and ran from Iraq and
left without a "Status of Forces" in place.
Your article was printed after Obama had been in office SIX years...

six

years of ISIS getting stronger and stronger DAILY.

You claimed ISIS was formed under Obama.

Name ONE thing Obama did for world peace. He actually made things
WORSE when he didn't leave a "Status of Forces" agreement in place
when we left Iraq, causing ISIS to form and take over the region.

Mind posting that proof?

Read the link, you lazy fucking jackball. And don't give us any of your
pussy-bitch "Oh, CNN..." ad hominem, you cocksucker. Unless you can
identify specific errors in the timeline they give, *with* your own
proof, then keep your fucking mouth shut.

AlleyCat

2018-05-25 22:56:45 UTC

On Fri, 25 May 2018 09:33:27 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...

Please point me into the direction of ANY article that has the words "I
want a Nobel Peace Prize."

https://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/05/trump_nobel_twitter_prize.html

17 House members sending a letter to the Nobel Institute, "nominating"
Trump for a Peace Prize, which does NOT mean he was OFFICIALLY
"nominated" for anything, STILL isn't Trump saying, "I
want a Nobel Peace Prize."

Sorry, dick-sucker... you lose again.

AlleyCat

2018-05-25 13:37:05 UTC

On Fri, 25 May 2018 07:02:18 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman
You claimed ISIS was formed under Obama.

I know reading comprehension is hard, but... try again.

We never even HEARD of ISIS (regardless of when they were pushed out of
Iraq) and that CNN posted "their" timeline, until Bush was OUT of office
and Obama cut and ran from Iraq and left without a "Status of Forces" in
place.

CNN didn't KNOW ISIS either, until they started "conquering" land, AFTER
Obama cut and ran from Iraq.

"In 2014, ISIS controlled more than 34,000 square miles in Syria and Iraq,
from the Mediterranean coast to south of Baghdad. At the end of 2016, ISIS
territory had shrunk to about 23,320 square miles, according to IHS
Jane's." - CNN

They did NOT control that during the Bush administration. ISIS came to
"power" during Obama's, because he LET them.
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Muslims,
but hate Republicans.

Muslims are against abortion... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against contraception... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against pre-marital sex... hmmm... who else "SAYS" they are?

So, if Muslims and Republicans are SOOOO much alike, why do you Democrats
LOVE Muslims, but hate Republicans? See [1].

Muslims are FOR killing homosexuals... hmmm... who else? NO ONE else.

Muslims are FOR treating women as slaves and chattel... well, OK... yeah,
Democrats SAY they don't, but they do. How many Democrats have been caught
lately treating women as sex objects?

Weinstein, Weiner, Cosby, Franken, Bobby Scott (D)-Virginia, Conyers,
Brokaw, Charlie Rose, Schneiderman

Muslims are FOR their old men raping little boys

Oh, and they HATE you

Am I leaving anything else out that you just LOVE about Muslims?

[1] Oh yeah... Obama is a Muslim, so all is forgiven... right?

Rudy Canoza

2018-05-25 15:37:36 UTC

On 5/25/2018 5:02 AM, Bitch Holeman lied:
[...]

Post by Mitchell Holman
2004 - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi establishes al
Qaeda in Iraq (AQI).

That's a lie, Bitch Holeman.

Foundation (1999–2006)
The group was founded in 1999 by Jordanian Salafi jihadist Abu Musab
al-Zarqawi under the name Jamāʻat al-Tawḥīd wa-al-Jihād (lit. "The
Organisation of Monotheism and Jihad").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#Foundation_(1999%E2%80%932006)

Rudy Canoza

2018-05-25 15:35:24 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:02:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman
ISIS was formed after Bush invaded Iraq
and blew up the political structure there.
Obama had nothing to do with it.

We never even HEARD of ISIS (regardless of when they were pushed out of
Iraq), until Bush was OUT of office

*YOU* never heard of them, *AlleyPussyBitch* (who can't fight, did not
letter in multiple sports, never worked as a bouncer, and squats to
piss). Nonetheless, they were *already* active.

Post by AlleyCat
and Obama cut and ran from Iraq and
left without a "Status of Forces" in place.

The Iranian puppet Shiite government of Iraq that Bush's illegal
invasion brought to power wouldn't give President Obama a usable status
of forces agreement. We wouldn't have needed one if Bush hadn't
launched his illegal war of aggression.

AlleyCat

2018-05-26 00:12:25 UTC

On Fri, 25 May 2018 08:35:24 -0700, Rudy Canoza says...

Post by Rudy Canoza

Post by AlleyCat
We never even HEARD of ISIS (regardless of when they were pushed out of
Iraq), until Bush was OUT of office

*YOU* never heard of them

Ohhh, and the mighty 4 foot Tooty, who has NEVER fought, NEVER played
sports, NEVER let into a bar because he was too short for the girls [kept
bumping his head in their boobs... snicker], and whose mommy made him get
a colostomy bag because his dick's too short to squirt farther than his
panties, and she got tired of cleaning all that piss up, knew allll about
ISIS before ISIS hit the news in May of 2013 when they merged with al-
Qaeda in Syria.

Riiiiight.

NOBODY except intelligence people, knew of ISIS, until then... NOBODY.

Jealous little boy, can't STAND it that someone has been the things I say
I've been, because he's led a rather dull, short man's life.

[giggle]

AlleyCat

2018-05-25 01:28:36 UTC

On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:02:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by AlleyCat
Name ONE thing Obama did for world peace.

Heard anything from Bin Laden recently?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah... right.

The BUSH administration, or his military, to be quite frank, set up the
killing of bin Laden, dumb ass. Do you REALLY think that Obama wanted to
kill one of his heroes?

Besides, Obama had made torture illegal, and bin Laden would NEVER have
been found, were it not for "enhanced interrogation techniques".

I won't go into the lengthy description of Obama putting off the killing
of bin Laden, THREE TIMES... this has been discussed and posted before.

(see below)

=====

The Death Of Osama Bin Laden: How The US Finally Got Its Man

The Trail BEGAN During The Bush Administration, With A Single, False Name
And Ended, YEARS LATER, With Osama Bin Laden's Body Sinking Into The Sea

Obama was in office 2 whole years, so it was Bush's administration who
laid the groundwork and was pivotal in finding bin Laden.

Obama simply, and FINALLY said OK to kill Osama, ONLY after Valerie
Jarrette TOLD him to give the green light.

=====

Obama killing Muslims.... that's funny right thar, I don't care who you
are.

It took FOUR times to get the green light from him to capture and kill his
Muslim brother, Usama. Why would HE want to kill those you liberals love
so much? You know, the ones who want to throw gays from rooftops?

=====

Obama Canceled Bin Laden 'Kill' Raid Three Times
David Martosko
Executive Editor
9:10 PM 07/29/2012

President Barack Obama canceled the operation to kill Osama bin Laden on
three separate occasions before finally approving the May 2, 2011 Navy
SEAL mission, according to an explosive new book scheduled for release
August 21.

In "Leading From Behind: The Reluctant President and the Advisors Who
Decide for Him," Richard Miniter writes that Obama canceled the "kill"
mission in January 2011, again in February, and a third time in March.
Obama's close adviser Valerie Jarrett persuaded him to hold off each time,
according to the book.

Miniter, a two-time New York Times best-selling author, cites a source
with Joint Special Operations Command who had direct knowledge of the
operation and its planning.

"Leading From Behind"

Obama administration officials also said after the raid that the president
had delayed giving the order to kill the arch-terrorist the day before the
operation was carried out, in what turned out to be his fourth moment of
indecision. At the time, the White House blamed the delay on unfavorable
weather conditions near bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

This article was edited. If you libtards want the full context, you might
not like THAT either. I took out the part where Obama was being told by a
Muslim FEMALE, to hold off killing their Muslim brother.

YOU liberals might not mind being told what to do by a woman, but REAL men
abhor that.

*****

Obama didn't WANT Usama killed. He said NO to killing bin Laden THREE
times, before succumbing to the pressure. And then he got scolded and told
to sit in the corner and watch what he didn't have the intestinal
fortitude to do... kill his Muslim brother.

Obama was relegated to the corner of the war room like a little boy that
had pulled Hillary's pigtails.

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*****

Obama did NOT order the assassination of bin Laden... Valerie Jarrett did,
because Obama didn't have the balls to be responsible for killing a
fellow Muslim.

*****

Do you know that it took FOUR times to get the go-ahead on the
capture/kill of Usama? Obama didn't WANT to kill his Muslim Brother-in-
arms.

On the day Navy SEALs were raiding Osama bin Laden's compound in Pakistan
and killing the 9/11 mastermind, President Obama didn't spend every moment
in the White House situation room.

Instead, the "commander in chief" said, "I'm not going to be down there...
I can't watch this entire thing" and then proceeded to play cards in a
private dining room that day - about 15 games of spades(how apropos), in
fact, his former personal assistant Reggie Love recently told a UCLA
forum:

"Most people were like down in the Situation Room and [Obama] was like,
"I'm not going to be down there, I can't watch this entire thing,'" Love
recalled during a Q&A at an Artists & Athletes Alliance event.

Some Commander-in-Chief. I'd bet you all of Romney's money, that Romney
would have been there the whole time.

Obama didn't want to watch his "idol" get killed, but succumbed to
pressure to be there. Take a look at this pathetic little kid, who looks
like someone, probably Hitlerry, dressed him down and told him what kind
of historic event this was going to be. Looks like a kid sent to the
corner of the classroom for pulling Hitlerry's pigtails.

Turns out, it was ANOTHER woman, Valerie Jarrett. Obama... what a pussy.

Siri Cruise

2018-05-25 07:08:19 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
The BUSH administration, or his military, to be quite frank, set up the
killing of bin Laden, dumb ass. Do you REALLY think that Obama wanted to
kill one of his heroes?

But Obama did not set up the destruction of Daesh in Syria.

AlleyCat

2018-05-25 13:18:42 UTC

On Fri, 25 May 2018 00:08:19 -0700, Siri Cruise says...

Post by AlleyCat
The BUSH administration, or his military, to be quite frank, set up the
killing of bin Laden, dumb ass. Do you REALLY think that Obama wanted to
kill one of his heroes?

But Obama did not set up the destruction of Daesh in Syria.

Oh realllllly?

So, for SIX years (2009-2012), ISIL, ISIS or DAESH, as you seem to want to
call it (why, I don't know, since it's the Arabic acronym for The Islamic
State... are YOU Arabic?), was doing NOTHING?

I see... they formed when Bush was President and wreaked havoc, death and
destruction until 2009, then went silent, then waited until 2012 to spring
back into action?

Riiiiight.

WHO was President in 2012... Bush?

ISIL gained global prominence in early 2014 when it drove Iraqi government
forces out of key cities in its Western Iraq offensive, followed by its
capture of Mosul and the Sinjar massacre. - Wiki

That's some serious self-control, making it seem as though it was George
Bush who "made" them form up, then started protecting their fellow Muslim,
Barack HUSSEIN Obama, until their self-control ran out in 2012 and they
picked the killing back up?

Riiiight.

Sometimes, I think you act this stupid on purpose, just to have someone to
talk with, knowing we're going to call you out on your stupid statements.

Mitchell Holman

2018-05-26 02:10:36 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Fri, 25 May 2018 00:08:19 -0700, Siri Cruise says...

Post by AlleyCat
The BUSH administration, or his military, to be quite frank, set up
the killing of bin Laden, dumb ass. Do you REALLY think that Obama
wanted to kill one of his heroes?

But Obama did not set up the destruction of Daesh in Syria.

You claimed ISIS was first formed
while Obama was president.

"He (Obama) actually made things WORSE
when he didn't leave a "Status of Forces"
agreement in place when we left Iraq,
causing ISIS to form and take over the
region."

Post your proof.

AlleyCat

2018-05-26 04:13:33 UTC

On Fri, 25 May 2018 21:10:36 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

You claimed ISIS was first formed while Obama was president.

Aaaaaaahng... wrong! I claimed no such thing.

Please read my post again... I did NOT say "first formed", I said
"formed". This is not an untrue statement, even though it HAS been pointed
out that AL QAEDA, ISI and ISIL was formed before Obama got into office.

The "formation" and "timeline" of ISIS, has been discussed in this group
before, that is why I was careful to say "ISIS" was formed... not al
Qaeda, ISI or ISIL or any other acronym for the same crazed bunch of
religious idiots, that you Democrats just lovvvve.

ISIS was formed ONLY when ISI and ISIL JOINED FORCES. I don't care what
the "roots" of ISIS entails, that is not what I said. ISIS formed in 2013,
so even if I HAD said "first formed", that STILL would have been the
truth.

"He (Obama) actually made things WORSE when he didn't leave a "Status of
Forces" agreement in place when we left Iraq, causing ISIS to form and
take over the region."
Post your proof.

OK...

History Channel (history.com):

The "ROOTS" of ISIS trace back to 2004, when the organization known as "al
Qaeda in Iraq" formed (NOT yet ISIS). Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who was
originally part of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda Network, founded this
militant group.

The U.S. invasion of Iraq began in 2003, and the aim of al Qaeda (NOT yet
ISIS) in Iraq was to remove Western occupation and replace it with a Sunni
Islamist regime.

When Zarqawi was killed during a U.S. air-strike in 2006, Egyptian Abu
Ayyub al-Masri became the new leader and renamed the group "ISI," (NOT yet
ISIS) which stood for "Islamic State of Iraq." In 2010, Masri died in a
US-Iraqi operation, and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi took power.

When the civil war in Syria started, ISI (NOT yet ISIS) fought against
Syrian forces and gained ground throughout the region. In 2013, the group
officially renamed themselves "ISIS", which stands for "Islamic State of
Iraq and Syria," because they had expanded into Syria.

So, ONLY when ISI and ISIL (The Islamic State and The Levant), joined
forces in 2013 did ISIS form.

WHO was President in 2013?

Bush?

No.

Obama?

Yes.
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Muslims,
but hate Republicans.

Muslims are against abortion... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against contraception... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against pre-marital sex... hmmm... who else "SAYS" they are?

So, if Muslims and Republicans are SOOOO much alike, why do you Democrats
LOVE Muslims, but hate Republicans? See [1].

Muslims are FOR killing homosexuals... hmmm... who else? NO ONE else.

Muslims are FOR treating women as slaves and chattel... well, OK... yeah,
Democrats SAY they don't, but they do. How many Democrats have been caught
lately treating women as sex objects?

Weinstein, Weiner, Cosby, Franken, Bobby Scott (D)-Virginia, Conyers,
Brokaw, Charlie Rose, Schneiderman

Muslims are FOR their old men raping little boys

Oh, and they HATE you

Am I leaving anything else out that you just LOVE about Muslims?

[1] Oh yeah... Obama is a Muslim, so all is forgiven... right?

AlleyCat

2018-05-28 00:52:12 UTC

On Fri, 25 May 2018 21:10:36 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

You claimed ISIS was first formed while Obama was president.

"He (Obama) actually made things WORSE when he didn't leave a "Status of
Forces" agreement in place when we left Iraq, causing ISIS to form and
take over the region."
Post your proof.

raykeller

2018-05-26 18:00:43 UTC

In article

Post by AlleyCat
The BUSH administration, or his military, to be quite frank,
set up the killing of bin Laden, dumb ass. Do you REALLY think
that Obama wanted to kill one of his heroes?

But Obama did not set up the destruction of Daesh in Syria.

Trump and the Bush family did business with the bin Ladens and
Trump's favorite business partners in the Middle East are Sharia
practicing Saudi Muslims who showered him with $millions in gifts
during a recent visit. Muslims are rightists and so are the
depraved Trump lovers. Bush left Osama alone while it was Obama
who got him. Remember when the Obama hating American rightists
joined the chorus with their radical Muslim counterparts screaming
"We don't believe (our hero) is dead!" "We demand to see his
body!"

American rightist Trumpites are regressive right wing fanatics,
just like their far right radical Muslim brothers.

No Difference between American rightist Trumpites and radical
Muslims

Position.................................Islam.............Conserva
tives

Oppose Abortion....................Yes.................Yes

Oppose Gay Marriage............Yes.................Yes

Oppose Church/State
Separation..............................Yes.................Yes

Oppose Womens Rights.........Yes.................Yes

Oppose Liberal Reforms.........Yes.................Yes

Support Death Penalty............Yes.................Yes

Teach Religion in School.......Yes.................Yes

Oppose Contraception...........Yes.................Yes

Oppose Liberal Media.............Yes.................Yes

Government Payments To
Faith Based Institutions............Yes.................Yes

Oppose Drug Legalization.......Yes.................Yes

Belief in Creationism................Yes................Yes

Skeeter DoW #420

2018-05-26 19:39:55 UTC

On Sat, 26 May 2018 18:00:43 +0000 (UTC), raykeller

Post by raykeller

In article

Post by AlleyCat
The BUSH administration, or his military, to be quite frank,
set up the killing of bin Laden, dumb ass. Do you REALLY think
that Obama wanted to kill one of his heroes?

But Obama did not set up the destruction of Daesh in Syria.

Trump and the Bush family did business with the bin Ladens and
Trump's favorite business partners in the Middle East are Sharia
practicing Saudi Muslims who showered him with $millions in gifts
during a recent visit. Muslims are rightists and so are the
depraved Trump lovers. Bush left Osama alone while it was Obama
who got him. Remember when the Obama hating American rightists
joined the chorus with their radical Muslim counterparts screaming
"We don't believe (our hero) is dead!" "We demand to see his
body!"
American rightist Trumpites are regressive right wing fanatics,
just like their far right radical Muslim brothers.
No Difference between American rightist Trumpites and radical
Muslims
Position.................................Islam.............Conserva
tives
Oppose Abortion....................Yes.................Yes
Oppose Gay Marriage............Yes.................Yes
Oppose Church/State
Separation..............................Yes.................Yes
Oppose Womens Rights.........Yes.................Yes
Oppose Liberal Reforms.........Yes.................Yes
Support Death Penalty............Yes.................Yes
Teach Religion in School.......Yes.................Yes
Oppose Contraception...........Yes.................Yes
Oppose Liberal Media.............Yes.................Yes
Government Payments To
Faith Based Institutions............Yes.................Yes
Oppose Drug Legalization.......Yes.................Yes
Belief in Creationism................Yes................Yes

You got your butt hurt huh little one?

AlleyCat

2018-05-27 00:03:12 UTC

On Sat, 26 May 2018 18:00:43 +0000 (UTC), raykeller says...

Post by raykeller
Muslims are rightists

Then tell us, dumb ass... why do you love Muslims so much, if they're evil
rightists?? [1]

On its face, that is a stupid statement.

Muslim "rightists", are not the same as Christian rightists.

Muslim "rightists", are not the same as Jewish rightists.

LOL... dumb ass cuts off his nose to spite his face.

Why do you love Muslim rightists, if you hate everything they stand for?

Oh yeah... [1]
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Muslims.

Muslims are against abortion... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against contraception... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against pre-marital sex... hmmm... who else "SAYS" they are?

So, if Muslims and Republicans are SOOOO much alike, why do you Democrats
LOVE Muslims?

Muslims are FOR killing homosexuals... hmmm... who else? NO ONE else.

Muslims are FOR treating women as slaves and chattel... well, OK... yeah,
Democrats SAY they don't, but they do. How many Democrats have been caught
lately treating women as sex objects?

Weinstein, Weiner, Cosby, Franken, Bobby Scott (D)-Virginia, Conyers,
Brokaw, Charlie Rose, Schneiderman

Muslims are FOR their old men raping little boys

Oh, and they HATE you

Am I leaving anything else out that you just LOVE about Muslims?

[1] Oh yeah... Obama is a Muslim, so all is forgiven... right?

AlleyCat

2018-05-27 11:28:02 UTC

On Sat, 26 May 2018 17:07:13 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...

^^^^^^^^^
Ko0k-k0O, k00K-Ko0!
KKKitty!
. . .

Suck, suck, suck that dickerette.

LOL... can't refute... pollute Usenet with nothing.

Come on, Tommy tee tee taster... why do YOU love Muslims so much, if all
they want is for YOU to be dead? Oh yeah. [1]

You're a believer in The Washington ComPost... why don't you believe THIS?

Here Are The 10 Countries Where Homosexuality May Be Punished By Death

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-
10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/?
noredirect=on&utm_term=.02a1efb18b00

Yemen: According to the 1994 penal code, married men can be sentenced to
death by stoning for homosexual intercourse. Unmarried men face whipping
or one year in prison. Women face up to seven years in prison.

Iran: In accordance with sharia law, homosexual intercourse between men
can be punished by death, and men can be flogged for lesser acts such as
kissing. Women may be flogged.

The Islamic State's war on homosexuals is another shocking examples of the
group's brutality. (TWP)

Mauritania: Muslim men engaging in homosexual sex can be stoned to death,
according to a 1984 law.

Nigeria: Federal law classifies homosexual behavior as a felony punishable
by imprisonment, but several states have adopted sharia law and imposed a
death penalty for men.

Qatar: Sharia law in Qatar applies only to Muslims, who can be put to
death for extramarital sex, regardless of sexual orientation.

Saudi Arabia: Under the country's interpretation of sharia law, a married
man engaging in sodomy or any non-Muslim who commits sodomy with a Muslim
can be stoned to death. All sex outside of marriage is illegal.

Afghanistan: Afghanistan's sharia law criminalizes same-sex sexual acts
with a maximum of the death penalty. No known cases of death sentences
have been meted out since the end of Taliban rule in 2001.

Somalia: The penal code stipulates prison, but in some southern regions,
Islamic courts have imposed sharia law and the death penalty.

Sudan: Three-time offenders under the sodomy law can be put to death;
first and second convictions result in flogging and imprisonment. Southern
parts of the country have adopted more lenient laws.

*****

Tell me again... why is it that you LOVVVVVE Muslims?
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Muslims,
but hate Republicans.

Muslims are against abortion... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against contraception... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against pre-marital sex... hmmm... who else "SAYS" they are?

So, if Muslims and Republicans are SOOOO much alike, why do you Democrats
LOVE Muslims, but hate Republicans? See [1].

Muslims are FOR killing homosexuals... hmmm... who else? NO ONE else.

Muslims are FOR treating women as slaves and chattel... well, OK... yeah,
Democrats SAY they don't, but they do. How many Democrats have been caught
lately treating women as sex objects?

Weinstein, Weiner, Cosby, Franken, Bobby Scott (D)-Virginia, Conyers,
Brokaw, Charlie Rose, Schneiderman

Muslims are FOR their old men raping little boys

Oh, and they HATE you

Am I leaving anything else out that you just LOVE about Muslims?

[1] Oh yeah... Obama is a Muslim, so all is forgiven... right?

Melania

2018-05-28 13:54:45 UTC

On 5/27/2018 7:28 AM, AlleyCat wrote:
Yawn.

AlleyCat

2018-05-28 23:16:54 UTC

On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:54:45 -0400, Melania says...

Yawn.

Yawning... just another excuse by the faggot nym-shifting little queer boy
to open his mouth wide and let one of his good buddies slip a dick in.

Taste good, round-mouth?

[giggle]

AlleyCat

2018-05-27 13:43:41 UTC

On Sat, 26 May 2018 18:00:43 +0000 (UTC), raykeller says...

Post by raykeller
Muslims are rightists

Mitchell Holman

2018-05-27 17:50:05 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Sat, 26 May 2018 18:00:43 +0000 (UTC), raykeller says...

Post by raykeller
Muslims are rightists

1) What exactly is a muslim "rightist",
and who here loves them?

2) Why do you insist on adding can.politics
to all your replies?

Siri Cruise

2018-05-27 19:42:32 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Sat, 26 May 2018 18:00:43 +0000 (UTC), raykeller says...

Post by raykeller
Muslims are rightists

1) What exactly is a muslim "rightist",
and who here loves them?
2) Why do you insist on adding can.politics
to all your replies?

To complain if any canadians respond.

AlleyCat

2018-05-28 00:52:13 UTC

On Sun, 27 May 2018 12:42:32 -0700, Siri Cruise says...

Post by Mitchell Holman
2) Why do you insist on adding can.politics
to all your replies?

To complain if any canadians respond.

Not "any". ;-)

AlleyCat

2018-05-28 00:52:14 UTC

On Sun, 27 May 2018 12:42:32 -0700, Siri Cruise says...

Post by Mitchell Holman
2) Why do you insist on adding can.politics
to all your replies?

To complain if any canadians respond.

Now, why would I do that?

AlleyCat

2018-05-28 00:52:13 UTC

On Sun, 27 May 2018 12:50:05 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by AlleyCat
Why do you love Muslim rightists, if you hate everything they stand for?

1a) What exactly is a muslim "rightist",

Muslims are against abortion... hmmm... who else? Conservative RIGHTISTS,
and if Conservative Rightists are against abortion, they too, are
rightists.

Muslims are against contraception... hmmm... who else? Conservative
RIGHTISTS, and if Conservative Rightists are against contraception, they
too, are rightists.

Muslims are against pre-marital sex... hmmm... who else? Conservative
RIGHTISTS, and if Conservative Rightists are against pre-marital sex, they
too, are rightists.

1b) and who here loves them?

Yeah... that's right... go ahead and pretend that no one here EVER
defended Muslims while Obama was in the White House, or even after. Hell,
that's what half the discussion were about, you fucking moron.

Just a taste:

=====

Uh no... I started this thread to show the barbaric racist views of
Muslims. THEY are the racists and religious nuts.
Who the fuck are YOU to defend them. Oh yeah... you want to butt-fuck
Obama, so ipso facto, you defend Muslims.

Yah, ALL Muslims, right? - Muslims, defended by Daryl

=====

Do MUSLIMS think of woman as equals? Thought so.

Neither do Christians. - Muslims defended by Gronk

=====

2) Why do you insist on adding can.politics
to all your replies?

This was explained in Aug of 2014, look it up, or does nerd not know how?
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Muslims,
but hate Republicans.

Muslims are against abortion... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against contraception... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against pre-marital sex... hmmm... who else "SAYS" they are?

So, if Muslims and Republicans are SOOOO much alike, why do you Democrats
LOVE Muslims, but hate Republicans? See [1].

Muslims are FOR killing homosexuals... hmmm... who else? NO ONE else.

Muslims are FOR treating women as slaves and chattel... well, OK... yeah,
Democrats SAY they don't, but they do. How many Democrats have been caught
lately treating women as sex objects?

Weinstein, Weiner, Cosby, Franken, Bobby Scott (D)-Virginia, Conyers,
Brokaw, Charlie Rose, Schneiderman

Muslims are FOR their old men raping little boys

Oh, and they HATE you

Am I leaving anything else out that you just LOVE about Muslims?

[1] Oh yeah... Obama is a Muslim, so all is forgiven... right?

AlleyCat

2018-05-28 01:23:36 UTC

On Sun, 27 May 2018 12:27:36 -0700 (PDT), Tom Sr. says...

Post by Mitchell Holman
2) Why do you insist on adding can.politics
to all your replies?

Now THAT is interesting

Something wrong with being Cuntnadian?

God, you're so fucking stupid, but please, DO go on... it's worth the
laughs you provide us.

What Province do you think I live in, idiot.

Yeah, I'm Cuntnadian... you caught me, and just to convince you I don't
exist as a Cuntnadian, I'm posting a few out of the 2,034 times I wrote
"Cuntnadian". If that isn't enough to convince you how fucking WRONG you
are, you're beyond help.

==============

We don't want to pay OTHERS' ways. DEMOCRATS and liberal Cuntnadians are

Subject: When Effeminate Cuntnadian Climate Screechers Have Nothing...
Poor Cuntnadian welfare queen wy, now edell, starting screeching about

Cry us some more Cuntnadian snowflake. How many Canadians are getting=

WTF? Cuntnadians come to America for something that should be FREE in

your mommy, is too painful to bear? Pussy Cuntnadian. You're just an

Pussy Cuntnadian wants to be a part of America's political process so

reading challenged Cuntnadian cuntknucklehead.

Subject: Witness Cuntnadian Having Meltdown Because He Got Owned -- The
Context is GUNS, Twerp, Not Obesity

Lap THIS up, Cuntnadian Cuntknucklehead:

keep it out of Cuntnadian Newsgroups. ;-)

trust a damn Cuntnadian anyway.

You're fucking blind then, Cuntnadian. Now go away, stupid.

Try again, stupid Cuntnadian gay fucker.

trust a damn Cuntnadian anyway.

Obama does is working. It's not. They lie. And so do Cuntnadians that
seem

businesses and the Market? Nope. Just another lie from a Cuntnadian.

Goddamn, you are one stupid Cuntnadian.

WTF? Cuntnadians come to America for something that should be FREE in

your mommy, is too painful to bear? Pussy Cuntnadian. You're just an

Pussy Cuntnadian wants to be a part of America's political process so

Republicans, reading challenged Cuntnadian cuntknucklehead.

Subject: Witness Cuntnadian Have Meltdown Because He Got Owned -- The
Context is GUNS, Twerp, Not Obesity

Lap THIS up, Cuntnadian Cuntknucklehead:

keep it out of Cuntnadian Newsgroups. ;-)

trust a damn Cuntnadian anyway.

You're fucking blind then, Cuntnadian. Now go away, stupid.

Try again, stupid Cuntnadian gay fucker.

trust a damn Cuntnadian anyway.

businesses and the Market? Nope. Just another lie from a Cuntnadian.

--

STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Muslims,
but hate Republicans.

Muslims are against abortion... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against contraception... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against pre-marital sex... hmmm... who else "SAYS" they are?

So, if Muslims and Republicans are SOOOO much alike, why do you Democrats
LOVE Muslims, but hate Republicans? See [1].

Muslims are FOR killing homosexuals... hmmm... who else? NO ONE else.

Muslims are FOR treating women as slaves and chattel... well, OK... yeah,
Democrats SAY they don't, but they do. How many Democrats have been caught
lately treating women as sex objects?

Weinstein, Weiner, Cosby, Franken, Bobby Scott (D)-Virginia, Conyers,
Brokaw, Charlie Rose, Schneiderman

Muslims are FOR their old men raping little boys

Oh, and they HATE you

Am I leaving anything else out that you just LOVE about Muslims?

[1] Oh yeah... Obama is a Muslim, so all is forgiven... right?

AlleyCat

2018-05-28 01:53:23 UTC

You also know him as Byker . . . . Beam Me Up Scotty . . . Leroy N
Soetoro . . . Mr. B1ack . . . . Michael Ejercito . . . . Bradley K
Sperman . . . and hundreds of other nyms.

Uh, no. Learn how to use a REAL newsreader, instead of being a chicken
shit cock sucker and using Google and maybe either a VPN or a proxy, and
then learn how to read headers, Cuntnadian.

138.197.173.20
Decimal: 2328210708
Hostname: 138.197.173.20
ASN: 14061
ISP: Digital Ocean
Organization: Digital Ocean
Services: None detected
Type: Corporate
Assignment: Static IP
Blacklist:
Continent: North America
Country: Canada ca flag
State/Region: Ontario
City: Toronto
Latitude: 43.6555 (43° 39' 19.80? N)
Longitude: -79.3626 (79° 21' 45.36? W)
Postal Code: M5A

b***@gmail.com

2018-05-28 02:15:34 UTC

Post by Mitchell Holman
1) What exactly is a muslim "rightist",
and who here loves them?
2) Why do you insist on adding can.politics
to all your replies?

You also know him as Byker . . . . Beam Me Up Scotty . . . Leroy N Soetoro . . . Mr. B1ack . . . . Michael Ejercito . . . . Bradley K Sperman . . . and hundreds of other nyms.

And, yes, he lives in the Toronto area of Ontario, Canada.

AlleyCat

2018-05-28 02:31:26 UTC

Yes he is. You also know him as Byker . . . . Beam Me Up Scotty . . . Leroy N Soetoro . . . Mr. B1ack . . . . Michael Ejercito . . . . Bradley K Sperman . . . and hundreds of other nyms.

Uh, no. Learn how to use a REAL newsreader and stop using Google and
maybe either a VPN or a proxy, and then learn how to read headers,
Cuntnadian.

And, yes, he lives in the Toronto area of Ontario, Canada.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YOUR IP address is 138.197.173.20 and you want us to believe that I'M from
Toronto and you're not?

Who is this... that 4 year old we make fun of?

And no... YOU'RE the one with an ISP (Digital Ocean) from that shithole
province and country. If that's a proxy or VPN, well, we know what kind of
chicken shit cock sucker we're dealing with here.

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138.197.173.20
Decimal: 2328210708
Hostname: 138.197.173.20
ASN: 14061
ISP: Digital Ocean
Organization: Digital Ocean
Services: None detected
Type: Corporate
Assignment: Static IP
Blacklist:
Continent: North America
Country: Canada ca flag
State/Region: Ontario
City: Toronto
Latitude: 43.6555 (43° 39' 19.80? N)
Longitude: -79.3626 (79° 21' 45.36? W)
Postal Code: M5A

AlleyCat

2018-05-29 00:27:47 UTC

On Mon, 28 May 2018 11:41:24 -0700, Rudy Canoza says...

That's called intellectual honesty, homo hummel.

No, that's called hating anyone and everyone, but most of all,
YOURSELF.... for not being able to cope with life in general and because
of your small stature and angry-at-the-world attitude.

That's why you're here.

When you hate "both" sides, and you want to argue with them, that means
you have NO friends, nobody to have real conversations with and mommy's
not worth your time, because she probably disagrees with you on most
subjects, other than your hate for everything not "Rudy".

She KNOWS what little man's disease is and she pities you. You don't want
her pity, so you skulk and slither down the hall or to the basement and
write on Usenet ALL DAY EVERY DAY.

Loading Image...

What a miserable existence.

Mitchell Holman

2018-05-25 11:58:44 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:02:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by AlleyCat
Name ONE thing Obama did for world peace.

Heard anything from Bin Laden recently?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah... right.
The BUSH administration, or his military, to be quite frank, set up
the killing of bin Laden, dumb ass.

Not only did Bush not bag Bin Laden, he
even quit looking for him.

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and
I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not
our priority." George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
http://tinyurl.com/h2bmo7o
http://tinyurl.com/3hfm8st

"I truly am not that concerned about him."
-- Bush on Bin Laden, White House Press Conference,
March 13, 2002

CIA unit that hunted bin Laden closed
July 5, 2006

NEW YORK - The Central Intelligence Agency has closed a unit
that for a decade had the mission of hunting Osama bin Laden
and his top lieutenants, The New York Times reported in its
Tuesday edition.

The unit, known as Alec Station, was disbanded late last year
and its analysts reassigned within the CIA Counterterrorist
Center, the officials told the paper.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13699308/

AlleyCat

2018-05-25 13:23:15 UTC

On Fri, 25 May 2018 06:58:44 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by AlleyCat
The BUSH administration, or his military, to be quite frank, set up
the killing of bin Laden, dumb ass.

Not only did Bush not bag Bin Laden, he
even quit looking for him.

[giggle]

Fake news, at best.

=====

Bush Did Not Stop Looking For Bin Laden

All over the Leftosphere, I'm hearing a huge pile of manure being shoveled
regarding former President Bush and Osama Bin Laden. The Leftos are saying
Bush didn't care about getting Bin Laden and wasn't even looking for him
(I'm not even counting the crazed Lefto conspiracy theorists who think
Bush was protecting Bin Laden for some reason). They mainly cite two facts
to support their inane hypothesis. First is a statement Bush made in a
2002 press conference:

Second is the fact that Bush closed the CIA "Bin Laden Unit" that was
tasked specifically with finding Bin Laden. That unit operated from 1996-
2005.

At this point you might be thinking, 'Well gosh, King, it DOES sound like
Bush wasn't looking for Bin Laden'.

Yes, I suppose it does...if these two bits of information are all you look
at, as the Leftos would have you do. The truth, however, is much different
than what the Leftos are shoveling.

Let's start with the obvious fact that Bush wasn't really the one looking
for Bin Laden, and neither was Obama. That job was done by the CIA and
other intelligence agencies. If Bush said he didn't think much about Bin
Laden in 2002, well, the people who count, such as the CIA's Bin Laden
Unit, WERE thinking about Bin Laden, and were still looking for him until
at least 2005, when the unit was disbanded. This leads to the second
fallacy of the Leftos. They are intentionally trying to mislead us into
believing the disbandment of the Bin Laden Unit meant Bush (America) was
no longer searching for Bin Laden. This is untrue (and the Leftos know
it). Here are the facts about the end of the Bin Laden Unit, as reported
at by the New York Times:

WASHINGTON, July 3 - The Central Intelligence Agency has closed a unit
that for a decade had the mission of hunting Osama bin Laden and his top
lieutenants, intelligence officials confirmed Monday.

The unit, known as Alec Station, was disbanded late last year and its
analysts reassigned within the C.I.A. Counterterrorist Center, the
officials said.

The decision is a milestone for the agency, which formed the unit
before Osama bin Laden became a household name and bolstered its ranks
after the Sept. 11 attacks, when President Bush pledged to bring Mr. Bin
Laden to justice "dead or alive."

The realignment reflects a view that Al Qaeda is no longer as
hierarchical as it once was, intelligence officials said, and a growing
concern about Qaeda-inspired groups that have begun carrying out attacks
independent of Mr. bin Laden and his top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

Agency officials said that tracking Mr. bin Laden and his deputies
remained a high priority, and that the decision to disband the unit was
not a sign that the effort had slackened. Instead, the officials said, it
reflects a belief that the agency can better deal with high-level threats
by focusing on regional trends rather than on specific organizations or
individuals.

"The efforts to find Osama bin Laden are as strong as ever," said
Jennifer Millerwise Dyck, a C.I.A. spokeswoman. "This is an agile agency,
and the decision was made to ensure greater reach and focus."

You'd have to be crazy to think any American President wouldn't be trying
to find the man behind the 9/11 attacks. Of course they were looking for
Bin Laden. We never stopped looking for him. We were looking for him for
15 years before we finally got him. In fact, Bush sent the might of the
Ameican military after Bin Laden following 9/11. We invaded Afghanistan to
get him and remove the state Al Qaeda-supporting Taliban from power. If
that wasn't about disrupting and apprehending Al Qaedans, I don't know
what would be. We nearly got Bin Laden at Tora Bora, but he slipped
through our fingers, partly due to a bad decision on our part to outsource
some of the job to Afghanis. We got lots of other high-level Al Qaeda
terrorists from that invasion, along with a treasure trove of information
about Al Qaeda. In my last post, I provided some information about how the
interrogations of Al Qaeda members captured in Afghanistan provided us
with early information about Bin Laden's couriers. That was one brick in
the wall that led to finally getting Bin Laden.

In 2003, Bush took a detour into Iraq, but Bin Laden's trail had gone cold
again by then. I thought the Iraq War was a mistake, and I thought so
before the wmd intelligence (which was also not gathered by Bush, Leftos)
turned out to be wrong. I'm glad Saddam's gone, and I think the Middle
East is a better place without the Butcher Of Baghdad, but I wouldn't have
made the same call Bush did. If anything would be an argument in favor of
the Lefto proposition that Bush stopped looking for Bin Laden, it would be
the Iraq War. That diverted resources away from Afghanistan, as the Leftos
are quick to point out, but as we all know now, Bin Laden wasn't in
Afghanistan. He was in Pakistan. Also, I'm pretty sure we can conduct a
war and still have the CIA looking for Bin Laden. I do believe we are
capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. I mean, you didn't
ever not get your IRS tax refund because the government was too busy with
the Iraq War, right ? Our mammoth federal government can do more than one
thing at a time.

In the wake of Bin Laden's killing, I'm hearing criticism from Right-
wingers of Attorney General Eric Holder's decision to investigate
potential illegal activity by the Gitmo CIA interrogators. The Righties
say this will demoralize the CIA, and they also point out that those
interrogations provided all kinds of valuable info about Al Qaeda. The
Leftos have responded by saying...there is no such investigation by Obama,
as if right-wingers are lying ?!?!?!? Huh ? Here's what ThinkProgess
maintains:

[Former VP] Cheney also echoed former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) and
chastised Obama for "prosecuting" the intelligence officers who tortured
detainees. "These men deserve to be decorated, they don't deserve to be
prosecuted," he told Wallace, calling it "an outrage that we would go
after the people who deserve the credit for keeping us safe for seven and
a half years."
While the Obama administration in fact decided long ago not to
prosecute any CIA agents involved in torture, Cheney nevertheless
suggested Obama has been so relentless in going after those responsible
that "these guys...have to look over their shoulder."

Who is telling the truth here ? Hint - It's not ThinkProgress (no surprise
there). While Obama did say he wants to look forward and not backward
regarding the CIA interrogations, Attorney General Eric Holder appointed a
Special Prosecutor in August 2009 to look into possible illegal activity
by CIA interrogators. That investigation is ongoing, and ThinkProgress is
misleading it's readers, as usual.

I understand why Left-wingers are so misinformed. They make the gigantic
mistake of believing whatever phlegm the Leftosphere coughs up on any
particular day, not realizing it is nothing but a collection of
conjecture, half-truths, and outright lies. I only wonder why Left-wingers
are gullible enough to believe it all (other than because they want to). I
read ThinkProgress for two minutes and realize it's a bunch of crap. Why
don't they ? They have an entire internet to ferret out the truth. Why
don't they ? When crap comes from the Right, like with the Birther stuff,
I check into it and find out it's crap. Why can't Lefties do the same ?
It's not very difficult.
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Muslims,
but hate Republicans.

Muslims are against abortion... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against contraception... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against pre-marital sex... hmmm... who else "SAYS" they are?

So, if Muslims and Republicans are SOOOO much alike, why do you Democrats
LOVE Muslims, but hate Republicans? See [1].

Muslims are FOR killing homosexuals... hmmm... who else? NO ONE else.

Muslims are FOR treating women as slaves and chattel... well, OK... yeah,
Democrats SAY they don't, but they do. How many Democrats have been caught
lately treating women as sex objects?

Weinstein, Weiner, Cosby, Franken, Bobby Scott (D)-Virginia, Conyers,
Brokaw, Charlie Rose, Schneiderman

Muslims are FOR their old men raping little boys

Oh, and they HATE you

Am I leaving anything else out that you just LOVE about Muslims?

[1] Oh yeah... Obama is a Muslim, so all is forgiven... right?

Gronk

2018-05-29 05:11:56 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:02:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by AlleyCat
Name ONE thing Obama did for world peace.

Heard anything from Bin Laden recently?

Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden

BWAHAHAHAH

AlleyCat

2018-05-29 04:31:35 UTC

On Mon, 28 May 2018 23:11:56 -0600, Gronk says...

Post by Gronk
http://youtu.be/4PGmnz5Ow-o
Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden

Capital letters used for the galactically stupid.

CONCERNED is not the word he used, you dumb fuck. He said there was a
bigger picture, (and there was)... he said he wasn't WORRIED. He had no
reason to WORRY about bin Laden himself.

Listen to his words... did YOU even WATCH the video?

Do you REALLY think the President of the United States is going to tell
the world he's not concerned with a terrorist?

Liberal Logic 101.

HE didn't use the words "not concerned"... that was some twit liberal, who
posted the video. You know twit liberals, liberal... they put words into
others' mouths, and attribute words that weren't even spoken by whomever
it is that they're trying to make look bad (Bush didn't need anyone's help
in THAT department), and meant to undermine what someone REALLY said, so
they can marginalize that person.

If Bush wasn't "concerned", why were his intelligence agencies still
working on finding him? It damn sho whutn't Hussein Obaama's that did the
legwork. Obama was in office a whole 2 years, 3 months and 12 days before
bin Laden was killed.

Are YOU really that stupid as to think that all of the intel and all of
waterboarding and all of whatever it took to get him, was done in THAT
short period of time?!!?? (see below)

I told you fake news believing freaks before, Bush was acting like he
wasn't worried about bin Laden FOR A REASON, and that reason was why we
finally got him... they WERE working on getting him, but he's not going to
tell THAT to the lying media.

=====

The path to Osama bin Laden's death didn't start with Obama
By Jose A. Rodriguez Jr. April 30, 2012

Jose A. Rodriguez Jr. is a 31-year veteran of the CIA and the author of
"Hard Measures: How Aggressive CIA Actions After 9/11 Saved American
Lives."

As we mark the anniversary of Osama bin Laden's death, President Obama
deserves credit for making the right choice on taking out Public
Enemy No. 1.

But his administration never would have had the opportunity to do the
right thing had it not BEEN FOR SOME EXTRAORDINARY WORK DURING THE GEORGE
W. BUSH ADMINISTRATION.

Much of that work has been denigrated by Obama as unproductive and
contrary to American principles.

HE IS WRONG ON BOTH COUNTS.

Shortly after bin Laden met his maker last spring, courtesy of U.S.
Special Forces and intelligence, the administration proudly announced that
when Obama took office, getting bin Laden was made a top priority.

BULLSHIT.

Many of us who served in senior counterterrorism positions in the Bush
administration were left muttering: "Gee, why didn't we think of that?"

The truth is that getting bin Laden was the top counterterrorism objective
for U.S. intelligence since well before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. This
administration built on work painstakingly pursued for many years BEFORE
OBAMA WAS ELECTED - and without this work, Obama administration officials
never would have been in a position to authorize the strike on Abbottabad,
Pakistan, that resulted in bin Laden's overdue death.

In 2004, an al-Qaeda terrorist was captured trying to communicate with Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of the terror organization's operations in
Iraq. That captured terrorist was taken to a secret CIA prison - or "black
site" - where, initially, he was uncooperative. After being subjected to
some "enhanced interrogation techniques" - techniques authorized by
officials at the most senior levels of the U.S. government and that the
Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel confirmed were consistent
with U.S. law - the detainee became compliant. He was not one of the three
al-Qaeda operatives who underwent waterboarding, the harshest of the hard
measures.

Once this terrorist decided that non-cooperation was a non-starter, he
told us many things - including that bin Laden had given up communicating
via telephone, radio or Internet, and depended solely on a single courier
who went by "Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti." At the time, I was chief of the CIA's
Counterterrorism Center. The fact that bin Laden was relying on a lone
courier was a revelation that told me bin Laden had given up day-to-day
control of his organization. You can't run an operation as large, complex
and ambitious as al-Qaeda by communicating only every few months. It also
told me that capturing him would be even harder than we had thought.

Armed with the pseudonym of bin Laden's courier, we pressed on. We asked
other detainees in our custody if they had ever heard of "al-Kuwaiti."
Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11, reacted in horror when he
heard the name. He backed into his cell and vigorously denied ever hearing
of the man. We later intercepted communications KSM sent to fellow
detainees at the black site, in which he instructed them: "Tell them
nothing about the courier!"

In 2005 another senior detainee, Abu Faraj al-Libi, told us that this
courier had informed him that Libi had been selected to be al-Qaeda's No.
3 official. Surely that kind of information is delivered only by highly
placed individuals.

A couple of years later, after I became head of the National Clandestine
Service, the CIA was able to discover the true name of the courier. Armed
with that information, the agency worked relentlessly to locate that man.
Finding him eventually led to tracking down and killing bin Laden.

With some trying to turn bin Laden's death into a campaign talking point
for Obama's reelection, it is useful to remember that the trail to bin
Laden started in a CIA black site - all of which Obama ordered closed,
forever, on the second full day of his administration - and stemmed from
information obtained from hardened terrorists who agreed to tell us some
(but not all) of what they knew after undergoing harsh but legal
interrogation methods. Obama banned those methods on Jan. 22, 2009.

This past weekend, Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Carl Levin attacked
statements made in May 2011 by me, former CIA director Michael Hayden and
former attorney general Michael Mukasey regarding what led to bin Laden's
death. They misunderstood and mischaracterized our positions.

No single tactic, technique or approach led to the successful operation
against bin Laden. But those who suggest it was all a result of a fresh
approach taken after Jan. 20, 2009, are mistaken.
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Muslims,
but hate Republicans.

Muslims are against abortion... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against contraception... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against pre-marital sex... hmmm... who else "SAYS" they are?

So, if Muslims and Republicans are SOOOO much alike, why do you Democrats
LOVE Muslims, but hate Republicans? See [1].

Muslims are FOR killing homosexuals... hmmm... who else? NO ONE else.

Muslims are FOR treating women as slaves and chattel... well, OK... yeah,
Democrats SAY they don't, but they do. How many Democrats have been caught
lately treating women as sex objects?

Weinstein, Weiner, Cosby, Franken, Bobby Scott (D)-Virginia, Conyers,
Brokaw, Charlie Rose, Schneiderman

Muslims are FOR their old men raping little boys

Oh, and they HATE you

Am I leaving anything else out that you just LOVE about Muslims?

[1] Oh yeah... Obama is a Muslim, so all is forgiven... right?

Mitchell Holman

2018-05-29 13:18:42 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 28 May 2018 23:11:56 -0600, Gronk says...

Post by Gronk
http://youtu.be/4PGmnz5Ow-o
Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden

Huh?

The video shows Bush CLEARLY saying he was
"truly not concerned" about Bin Laden.

And then there is the official Bush White
House transcript of the speech, which quotes
him as saying that.

https://georgewbush-
whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

http://tinyurl.com/ztpke5o

Is that the doing of "some twit liberal"
as well?

AlleyCat

2018-05-29 22:50:43 UTC

On Tue, 29 May 2018 08:18:42 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 28 May 2018 23:11:56 -0600, Gronk says...

Post by Gronk
http://youtu.be/4PGmnz5Ow-o
Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden

Huh?

What?

Post by Mitchell Holman
The video shows Bush CLEARLY saying he was
"truly not concerned" about Bin Laden.

Um.. no. THAT video does NOT.

The video GRONK posted does NOT show Bush saying, "truly not concerned",
it was cut off... "truncated", but THIS video does.

The quote is, "I repeat what I said; I am truly not THAT concerned about
HIM", meaning he could STILL have concern, but just not as much as YOU
would pretend to think how much concern he should have.

That kinda puts a TexASS-sized boot up your ass, doesn't it? When someone
say "not THAT" about anything, means there IS room for "concern".

But this is all a moot point... his intelligence agencies kept at it and
bin Laden was found, but it was NOT Obama's task to take credit for.

Post by Mitchell Holman
And then there is the official Bush White
House transcript of the speech, which quotes
him as saying that.
https://georgewbush-
whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
http://tinyurl.com/ztpke5o

Yes, it says it there too, but I reiterate; Bush is NOT going to tell the
world he's still "looking" for bin Laden, if he is, so he can fool bin
Laden into getting careless and then we can find him if he does.

Annnnd what happened? He got careless and Bush's intelligence machine
found him... NOT Obama's. The people working on finding him were BUSH'S
people... Obama didn't WANT to find him, and CERTAINLY didn't want to KILL
him.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/29/obama-canceled-bin-laden-kill-raid-
three-times-valerie-jarrett/

=====

If Bush wasn't "concerned", why were his intelligence agencies still
working on finding him? It damn sho whutn't Hussein Obaama's that did the
most legwork. Obama was in office a whole 2 years, 3 months and 12 days
before bin Laden was killed.

Are YOU really that stupid as to think that all of the intel and all of
waterboarding and all of whatever it took to get him, was done in THAT
short period of time?!!?? (see below)

I told you fake news believing freaks before, Bush was acting like he
wasn't worried about bin Laden FOR A REASON, and that reason was why we
finally got him... they WERE working on getting him, but he's not going to
tell THAT to the lying media.

=====

The path to Osama bin Laden's death didn't start with Obama
By Jose A. Rodriguez Jr. April 30, 2012

Jose A. Rodriguez Jr. is a 31-year veteran of the CIA and the author of
"Hard Measures: How Aggressive CIA Actions After 9/11 Saved American
Lives."

As we mark the anniversary of Osama bin Laden's death, President Obama
deserves credit for making the right choice on taking out Public
Enemy No. 1.

But his administration never would have had the opportunity to do the
right thing had it not BEEN FOR SOME EXTRAORDINARY WORK DURING THE GEORGE
W. BUSH ADMINISTRATION.

Much of that work has been denigrated by Obama as unproductive and
contrary to American principles.

HE IS WRONG ON BOTH COUNTS.

Shortly after bin Laden met his maker last spring, courtesy of U.S.
Special Forces and intelligence, the administration proudly announced that
when Obama took office, getting bin Laden was made a top priority.

BULLSHIT.

Many of us who served in senior counterterrorism positions in the Bush
administration were left muttering: "Gee, why didn't we think of that?"

The truth is that getting bin Laden was the top counterterrorism objective
for U.S. intelligence since well before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. This
administration built on work painstakingly pursued for many years BEFORE
OBAMA WAS ELECTED - and without this work, Obama administration officials
never would have been in a position to authorize the strike on Abbottabad,
Pakistan, that resulted in bin Laden's overdue death.

In 2004, an al-Qaeda terrorist was captured trying to communicate with Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of the terror organization's operations in
Iraq. That captured terrorist was taken to a secret CIA prison - or "black
site" - where, initially, he was uncooperative. After being subjected to
some "enhanced interrogation techniques" - techniques authorized by
officials at the most senior levels of the U.S. government and that the
Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel confirmed were consistent
with U.S. law - the detainee became compliant. He was not one of the three
al-Qaeda operatives who underwent waterboarding, the harshest of the hard
measures.

Once this terrorist decided that non-cooperation was a non-starter, he
told us many things - including that bin Laden had given up communicating
via telephone, radio or Internet, and depended solely on a single courier
who went by "Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti." At the time, I was chief of the CIA's
Counterterrorism Center. The fact that bin Laden was relying on a lone
courier was a revelation that told me bin Laden had given up day-to-day
control of his organization. You can't run an operation as large, complex
and ambitious as al-Qaeda by communicating only every few months. It also
told me that capturing him would be even harder than we had thought.

Armed with the pseudonym of bin Laden's courier, we pressed on. We asked
other detainees in our custody if they had ever heard of "al-Kuwaiti."
Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11, reacted in horror when he
heard the name. He backed into his cell and vigorously denied ever hearing
of the man. We later intercepted communications KSM sent to fellow
detainees at the black site, in which he instructed them: "Tell them
nothing about the courier!"

In 2005 another senior detainee, Abu Faraj al-Libi, told us that this
courier had informed him that Libi had been selected to be al-Qaeda's No.
3 official. Surely that kind of information is delivered only by highly
placed individuals.

A couple of years later, after I became head of the National Clandestine
Service, the CIA was able to discover the true name of the courier. Armed
with that information, the agency worked relentlessly to locate that man.
Finding him eventually led to tracking down and killing bin Laden.

With some trying to turn bin Laden's death into a campaign talking point
for Obama's reelection, it is useful to remember that the trail to bin
Laden started in a CIA black site - all of which Obama ordered closed,
forever, on the second full day of his administration - and stemmed from
information obtained from hardened terrorists who agreed to tell us some
(but not all) of what they knew after undergoing harsh but legal
interrogation methods. Obama banned those methods on Jan. 22, 2009.

This past weekend, Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Carl Levin attacked
statements made in May 2011 by me, former CIA director Michael Hayden and
former attorney general Michael Mukasey regarding what led to bin Laden's
death. They misunderstood and mis-characterized our positions.

No single tactic, technique or approach led to the successful operation
against bin Laden. But those who suggest it was all a result of a fresh
approach taken after Jan. 20, 2009, are mistaken.

Post by Mitchell Holman
Is that the doing of "some twit liberal"
as well?

No, but the video Gronk posted doesn't have the part where he did say what
this discussion is about, so yes, the poster of the video IS a twit.
--
STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Muslims,
but hate Republicans.

Muslims are against abortion... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against contraception... hmmm... who else?

Muslims are against pre-marital sex... hmmm... who else "SAYS" they are?

So, if Muslims and Republicans are SOOOO much alike, why do you Democrats
LOVE Muslims, but hate Republicans? See [1].

Muslims are FOR killing homosexuals... hmmm... who else? NO ONE else.

Muslims are FOR treating women as slaves and chattel... well, OK... yeah,
Democrats SAY they don't, but they do. How many Democrats have been caught
lately treating women as sex objects?

Weinstein, Weiner, Cosby, Franken, Bobby Scott (D)-Virginia, Conyers,
Brokaw, Charlie Rose, Schneiderman

Muslims are FOR their old men raping little boys

Oh, and they HATE you

Am I leaving anything else out that you just LOVE about Muslims?

[1] Oh yeah... Obama is a Muslim, so all is forgiven... right?

Mitchell Holman

2018-05-30 02:53:09 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 29 May 2018 08:18:42 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by AlleyCat
On Mon, 28 May 2018 23:11:56 -0600, Gronk says...

Post by Gronk
http://youtu.be/4PGmnz5Ow-o
Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden

Huh?

What?

Post by Mitchell Holman
The video shows Bush CLEARLY saying he was
"truly not concerned" about Bin Laden.

Um.. no. THAT video does NOT.
The video GRONK posted does NOT show Bush saying, "truly not
concerned", it was cut off... "truncated", but THIS video does.
http://youtu.be/FPTwsMEiI0g
The quote is, "I repeat what I said; I am truly not THAT concerned
about HIM", meaning he could STILL have concern, but just not as much
as YOU would pretend to think how much concern he should have.
That kinda puts a TexASS-sized boot up your ass, doesn't it? When
someone say "not THAT" about anything, means there IS room for
"concern".
But this is all a moot point... his intelligence agencies kept at it
and bin Laden was found, but it was NOT Obama's task to take credit
for.

So Bush calling off the hunt for Bin
Laden was just a ruse?

Gads................

Post by AlleyCat
Annnnd what happened? He got careless and Bush's intelligence machine
found him... NOT Obama's. The people working on finding him were
BUSH'S people... Obama didn't WANT to find him, and CERTAINLY didn't
want to KILL him.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/29/obama-canceled-bin-laden-kill-raid-
three-times-valerie-jarrett/
=====
If Bush wasn't "concerned", why were his intelligence agencies still
working on finding him?

They weren't.

CIA unit that hunted bin Laden closed
July 5, 2006
AP

NEW YORK - The Central Intelligence Agency has closed a unit
that for a decade had the mission of hunting Osama bin Laden
and his top lieutenants, The New York Times reported in its
Tuesday edition.

The unit, known as Alec Station, was disbanded late last year
and its analysts reassigned within the CIA Counterterrorist
Center, the officials told the paper.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13699308/

AlleyCat

2018-05-30 03:59:42 UTC

On Tue, 29 May 2018 21:53:09 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by AlleyCat
Yes, it says it there too, but I reiterate; Bush is NOT going to tell
the world he's still "looking" for bin Laden, if he is, so he can fool
bin Laden into getting careless and then we can find him if he does.

So Bush calling off the hunt for Bin
Laden was just a ruse?

Please, please, PLEASE show us a video clip of Bush saying he was "calling
off the hunt for bin Laden". Oh, and HE didn't disband "Alec Station".

Please?

He didn't call off shit, you fucking dumbass. The CIA's "Alec Station"
wasn't the ONLY intelligence game in town, looking for bin Laden.

Post by AlleyCat
If Bush wasn't "concerned", why were his intelligence agencies still
working on finding him?

They weren't.

Uhhhh... yes, they were. Are you REALLY so stupid as to put ALL your eggs
in that ONE article, saying the CIA just stopped looking for bin Laden,
because they said Alec Station had been disbanded?????

God DAMN you're stupid. Disbanding "Alec Station" didn't stop the hunt,
you dumb fuck.

Post by Mitchell Holman
CIA unit that hunted bin Laden closed
July 5, 2006

LOL... yeah, ***A*** CIA unit... not the WHOLE CIA. You're a fucking
DUMBASS. Alec Station was just a unit assigned to getting bin Laden.

Bush didn't "call off the hunt", and the CIA didn't stop looking for him.
Alec Station was but a unit OF the CIA, set up in the Clinton Years. It
was disbanded... so fucking what? You really think that it was all just
dropped because of the disbanding of this ONE unit? Are you REALLY that
stupid, or does being a liberal, mean that you have to argue a point, even
when you're a wrong as it gets?

The Station opened in January 1996, as a unit under the CTC. Scheuer set
it up and headed it from that time until spring 1999. The Station was an
interdisciplinary group, drawing on personnel from the CIA, FBI, NSA, DIA
and elsewhere in the intelligence community. Formally known as the Bin
Ladin Issue Station, it was codenamed Alec Station, after Michael
Scheuer's son's name, as referred to by DIA's Able Danger liaison Anthony
Shaffer.

Post by Mitchell Holman
NEW YORK - The Central Intelligence Agency has closed ***A*** unit
that for a decade had the (the, not THE) mission of hunting Osama bin
Laden and his top lieutenants, The New York Times reported in its
Tuesday edition.

New York Times. [snicker]

It was just *A* unit, not THE unit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
The unit, known as Alec Station, was disbanded late last year
and its analysts reassigned within the CIA Counterterrorist
Center, the officials told the paper.

You left THIS little gem out, not doubt purposely. ALSO from The NYTs.

"Agency officials said that tracking Mr. bin Laden and his deputies
remained a high priority, and that the decision to disband the unit was
NOT A SIGN THAT THE EFFORT HAD SLACKENED."

"THE EFFORTS TO FIND OSAMA BIN LADEN ARE AS STRONG AS EVER," said Jennifer
Millerwise Dyck, a C.I.A. spokeswoman. "This is an agile agency, and the
decision was made to ensure GREATER reach and focus."

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html

So Bush called off the hunt for Osama bin Laden, huh?

I guess the CIA didn't GET that memo.

AlleyCat

2018-05-29 22:56:54 UTC

On Mon, 28 May 2018 23:11:56 -0600, Gronk says...

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:02:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by AlleyCat
Name ONE thing Obama did for world peace.

Heard anything from Bin Laden recently?

http://youtu.be/4PGmnz5Ow-o
Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden

THAT video does NOT show Bush saying "... truly not concerned about bin
Laden..." It was cut off... "truncated".

THIS video does: http://youtu.be/FPTwsMEiI0g

And the quote is, "I repeat what I said; I am truly not THAT concerned
about HIM", meaning he could STILL have concern, but just not as much as
YOU would PRETEND to think how much concern he should have.

That kinda puts a TexASS-sized boot up your ass, doesn't it? When someone
say "not THAT" about anything, it means there IS room for "concern".

But this is all a moot point... his intelligence agencies kept at it and
bin Laden was found, but it was NOT Obama's task to take credit for.

I reiterate, Bush is NOT going to tell the world he's still "looking" for
bin Laden, so he can fool bin Laden into getting careless and then we can
find him if he does.

Annnnd what happened? He got careless and Bush's intelligence machine
found him... NOT Obama's. The people working on finding him were BUSH'S
people... Obama didn't WANT to find him, and CERTAINLY didn't want to KILL
him.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/29/obama-canceled-bin-laden-kill-raid-
three-times-valerie-jarrett/

The actual quote is, "... I am truly not THAT concerned", meaning he could
STILL have concern, just not much. But that is all a moot point... his
intelligence agencies kept at it and bin Laden was found, but it was NOT
Obama's task to take credit for.

=====

If Bush wasn't "concerned", why were his intelligence agencies still
working on finding him? It damn sho whutn't Hussein Obaama's that did the
legwork. Obama was in office a whole 2 years, 3 months and 12 days before
bin Laden was killed.

Are YOU really that stupid as to think that all of the intel and all of
waterboarding and all of whatever it took to get him, was done in THAT
short period of time?!!?? (see below)

I told you fake news believing freaks before, Bush was acting like he
wasn't worried about bin Laden FOR A REASON, and that reason was why we
finally got him... they WERE working on getting him, but he's not going to
tell THAT to the lying media.

=====

The path to Osama bin Laden's death didn't start with Obama
By Jose A. Rodriguez Jr. April 30, 2012

Jose A. Rodriguez Jr. is a 31-year veteran of the CIA and the author of
"Hard Measures: How Aggressive CIA Actions After 9/11 Saved American
Lives."

As we mark the anniversary of Osama bin Laden's death, President Obama
deserves credit for making the right choice on taking out Public
Enemy No. 1.

But his administration never would have had the opportunity to do the
right thing had it not BEEN FOR SOME EXTRAORDINARY WORK DURING THE GEORGE
W. BUSH ADMINISTRATION.

Much of that work has been denigrated by Obama as unproductive and
contrary to American principles.

HE IS WRONG ON BOTH COUNTS.

Shortly after bin Laden met his maker last spring, courtesy of U.S.
Special Forces and intelligence, the administration proudly announced that
when Obama took office, getting bin Laden was made a top priority.

BULLSHIT.

Many of us who served in senior counterterrorism positions in the Bush
administration were left muttering: "Gee, why didn't we think of that?"

The truth is that getting bin Laden was the top counterterrorism objective
for U.S. intelligence since well before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. This
administration built on work painstakingly pursued for many years BEFORE
OBAMA WAS ELECTED - and without this work, Obama administration officials
never would have been in a position to authorize the strike on Abbottabad,
Pakistan, that resulted in bin Laden's overdue death.

In 2004, an al-Qaeda terrorist was captured trying to communicate with Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of the terror organization's operations in
Iraq. That captured terrorist was taken to a secret CIA prison - or "black
site" - where, initially, he was uncooperative. After being subjected to
some "enhanced interrogation techniques" - techniques authorized by
officials at the most senior levels of the U.S. government and that the
Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel confirmed were consistent
with U.S. law - the detainee became compliant. He was not one of the three
al-Qaeda operatives who underwent waterboarding, the harshest of the hard
measures.

Once this terrorist decided that non-cooperation was a non-starter, he
told us many things - including that bin Laden had given up communicating
via telephone, radio or Internet, and depended solely on a single courier
who went by "Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti." At the time, I was chief of the CIA's
Counterterrorism Center. The fact that bin Laden was relying on a lone
courier was a revelation that told me bin Laden had given up day-to-day
control of his organization. You can't run an operation as large, complex
and ambitious as al-Qaeda by communicating only every few months. It also
told me that capturing him would be even harder than we had thought.

Armed with the pseudonym of bin Laden's courier, we pressed on. We asked
other detainees in our custody if they had ever heard of "al-Kuwaiti."
Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11, reacted in horror when he
heard the name. He backed into his cell and vigorously denied ever hearing
of the man. We later intercepted communications KSM sent to fellow
detainees at the black site, in which he instructed them: "Tell them
nothing about the courier!"

In 2005 another senior detainee, Abu Faraj al-Libi, told us that this
courier had informed him that Libi had been selected to be al-Qaeda's No.
3 official. Surely that kind of information is delivered only by highly
placed individuals.

A couple of years later, after I became head of the National Clandestine
Service, the CIA was able to discover the true name of the courier. Armed
with that information, the agency worked relentlessly to locate that man.
Finding him eventually led to tracking down and killing bin Laden.

With some trying to turn bin Laden's death into a campaign talking point
for Obama's reelection, it is useful to remember that the trail to bin
Laden started in a CIA black site - all of which Obama ordered closed,
forever, on the second full day of his administration - and stemmed from
information obtained from hardened terrorists who agreed to tell us some
(but not all) of what they knew after undergoing harsh but legal
interrogation methods. Obama banned those methods on Jan. 22, 2009.

This past weekend, Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Carl Levin attacked
statements made in May 2011 by me, former CIA director Michael Hayden and
former attorney general Michael Mukasey regarding what led to bin Laden's
death. They misunderstood and mis-characterized our positions.

No single tactic, technique or approach led to the successful operation
against bin Laden. But those who suggest it was all a result of a fresh
approach taken after Jan. 20, 2009, are mistaken.

Rudy Canoza

2018-05-25 15:32:33 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 23:33:12 +0100, PIBB says...

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 17:42:42 +0100, PIBB says...

THERE GOES TRUMP'S NOBEL PRIZE!

Only that fathead could have thought he was really going to get
the Nobel.

Heard anything from Bin Laden recently?
He actually made things

Post by AlleyCat
WORSE when he didn't leave a "Status of Forces" agreement in place
when we left Iraq, causing ISIS to form and take over the region.

Ahem.
ISIS was formed after Bush invaded Iraq
and blew up the political structure there.

Siri Cruise

2018-05-24 23:03:43 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
Please point me into the direction of ANY article that has the words "I
want a Nobel Peace Prize." - Donald J. Trump

Ha ha ha ha ha.

AlleyCat

2018-05-24 22:32:40 UTC

On Thu, 24 May 2018 16:03:43 -0700, Siri Cruise says...

Post by AlleyCat
Please point me into the direction of ANY article that has the words "I
want a Nobel Peace Prize." - Donald J. Trump

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Thought you'd laugh at yourself to save me the trouble? Thanks, but no
thanks.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Another failure.

Siri Cruise

2018-05-25 06:28:19 UTC

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 16:03:43 -0700, Siri Cruise says...

Post by AlleyCat
Please point me into the direction of ANY article that has the words "I
want a Nobel Peace Prize." - Donald J. Trump

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Thought you'd laugh at yourself to save me the trouble? Thanks, but no
thanks.
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Another failure.

Tell us again how you really don't want those grapes because they are sour.

AlleyCat

2018-05-25 13:18:32 UTC

On Thu, 24 May 2018 23:28:19 -0700, Siri Cruise says...

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 24 May 2018 16:03:43 -0700, Siri Cruise says...

Post by AlleyCat
Please point me into the direction of ANY article that has the words "I
want a Nobel Peace Prize." - Donald J. Trump

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Thought you'd laugh at yourself to save me the trouble? Thanks, but no
thanks.
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Another failure.

Tell us again how you really don't want those grapes because they are sour.

[giggle]

What the fuck do *I* have to be sour about? I am LOVING life as we know it
these days.

It's the idiots on the left whose grapes are so fucking bruised and
butthurt these days, you can't respond to questions asked and posted
statements cogently, just one sentence blurbs that often make ZERO sense.

[hint hint]

AlleyCat

2018-05-25 22:27:45 UTC