Post by abelardOn Tue, 1 Nov 2016 15:26:59 +0000, James Harris
Post by James HarrisPost by abelardOn Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:21:08 +0000, James Harris
On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 13:54:53 +0000, James Harris
On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 10:53:38 +0000, James Harris
On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 07:12:17 +0000, James Harris
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How can anyone possibly think that putting such a person in the
White House is a good idea? That is a genuine question. Trump may be a
break from the cabal and I get that people desperately want a change.
But he is far from up to the job. AFAICS he is just not credible and
could well be dangerous.
what do you suppose he can or will do that is 'dangerous'
please list examples
What could POTUS do that's dangerous? Um, let me see! ;-)
i see no examples
Well, for arguably the world's most powerful man, the mind boggles as to
what he could get up to.
There's appointments of officials (internal and external to the
government) based on who he thinks likes him. There is international
relations conducted based on who he likes and who he doesn't like. There
are trade arrangements based on his whims. There is surrounding himself
with yes men and women who will stroke his ego. There are various forms
of retribution against all manner of organisations and individuals based
on who has upset him. There are making up and promoting stories about
staff and fellow politicians. There are attempts to interfere in the
justice system. There are fights with those who oppose him - and who
knows how far that would go. And there is possibly a danger of him
becoming increasingly paranoid, isolated, angry and troublesome.
that all sounds like politics as usual...
they always appoint their favourites...it's human nature...
and it's the people they trust...
'Liary is described as paranoid...
pootin is paranoid
brown the clown was paranoid...
most people in such orgs creep around the boss...
do you believe loretta lynch is there on merit?
do you believe o'barmy looked first for merit?
even cameron gave medals to his closest assistants and he
is unusually capable...
Remember Watergate.
i'm well aware of it...in my view 'Liary is worse and without
the redeeming achievements of nixon....
in fact she is followed by disaster...
you don't seem to be making a useful case or being specific...
I wouldn't attempt to predict the specific things he would do. I hope we
never get to find out! But my comments are based on things he has
already done.
o'barmy and 'Liary have left chaos in the middle east....
Obama has been weak and reticent on foreign policy. That's one reason I
thought that America needed a right-winger for a change.
Yeah, you need a right-winger like Bush who lied us into a 2 trillion dollar war and cost 4,000 American lives. Obama's reluctance to engage in military adventures has been a positive blessing, moron, not a sign of weakness. The man doesn't have to kill our troops or anyone else to prove himself.
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisPost by abelardthey've tried to nationalise 16%(and more of the economy...
none of that has made the world of society better or safer...
meanwhile you'll be happy to know that trump is moving ahead
in polls and the effects have yet to feed through
meanwhile trump has built a large business that is producing a
great deal and tends to function efficiently...
Maybe. But maybe it is all built on confidence and could collapse if the
internals were known. Lehman Brothers were thought to be strong.
and 'maybe' it isn't going to 'collapse'..do you have any evidence to
support your maybe?
Trump won't reveal his actual finances or his taxes so no one knows. For the past twenty years or so most of what he's done is franchise his name. His last capitalist venture in Washington is suffering badly.
Post by abelardtrumps assets are not just government derivatives
Meaning what? Hillary got a $14 million dollar advance on her latest book. She and her husband have several businesses in which they've invested. They're not worth billions but then they spent their lives in public service.
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisAs for his finances, Trump said he would publish his tax returns if he
ran for President. Where are they?
so what?
So he's the first presidential candidate in 40 years not to do it. What does he have to hide?
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisHe lost something like $900 million in one year, 1995.
so what?
fortunately his businesses were strong enough to take such
a paper loss
His business wasn't that strong. Trump is pretty good at passing on losses to others.
Post by abelardsuch large losses are common in large corporations
Really? Do tell. Name a few.
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisHe has declared bankruptcy multiple times, hasn't he?
look up chapter 11...it is not the same as 'bankruptcy'
Chapter 11 is bankruptcy. "This chapter of the Bankruptcy Code generally provides for reorganization, usually involving a corporation or partnership. A chapter 11 debtor usually proposes a plan of reorganization to keep its business alive and pay creditors over time."
That "reorganization" allowed Trump to stiff suppliers and contractors, make a claim for his own severance package and generally exit unscathed and richer.
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisDo you still believe that his business empire is strong?
i see no reason to suppose otherwise...he is even finding tens
of millions to fund his run allegedly
usually such runs depend on other people's money...like 'Liary's
run...people who then want 'favours'
You don't know whose money he's using. If its Trump he's using other people's money, not his own. As for Hillary (her name's not 'Liary, asshole), sure she gets contributions but so does Trump/
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisPost by abelardwhy do you believe that can be achieved by impulsive behaviour?
your approach seems to owe much more to emotion that to analysis
It is more an assessment of his character. That screams out to me that
he is dangerous in the ways I wrote before and which you copied below.
I tend to trust my own judgement of character and that would be
basically enough. But in this case the assessment is validated by things
he has done and said so I am fairly confident that it would be unwise to
place him in a position of power.
i think you...and most of the left, are badly misreading him
How do you badly misread a man who says he admires Putin and has a lot of respect for Kim Jung Un, who calls his own daughter "a piece of ass," who makes fun of people's afflictions, and who habitually lies and exaggerates?
Post by abelardhe's a master of the media...have you even started to consider
what that means?
He's an asshole, like you. People watch him the same way they watch any tawdry, vulgar real-life show.
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisPost by abelardi quote words you have now expunged:-
Thanks. I deleted the entire old part of the backlog but I'm delighted
to see such sagacious words again. :-)
Post by abelard... Trump. He is thin-skinned, vindictive,
spoiled, petulant, a liar, does not respect the law and is detached from
reality.
There are some things I missed.
Trump says he will do things - such as his release his tax returns,
mentioned above - but does absolutely nothing of the sort.
sensible move..'Liary would just start lying about the meaning
of them and confusing the uneducated
How about giving us an example, moron? I could quote Trump all day. By the way, asshole, her name is Hillary.
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisHe has been
making grandiose claims - such as he will get Mexico to pay for a vast
wall - without, AFAIK, giving any detail over how he will get them to do
so.
that is easy...put a tariff on their goods
Not so easy, moron, and tariffs usually generate retaliatory tariffs in return. Regarding Mexico, you're insane (of course you are) if (1) you think that Congress will ever allocate the money to build the damn wall, and (2) the Mexico will somehow pay for it.
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisHe is a fantasist and arrogant, obsessed with his own opinion.
those are your opinions...are you 'obsessed' with them
He is vulgar, nasty, racist, hardly able to make a proper English sentence, rude, and a constant, habitual, pathological liar. Those are NOT my opinions; they're facts.
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisHe keeps
praising himself
so does every politician seeking g to get elected.
I have never heard a politician say he was the only one who could "fix the system," as Trump did. He's a megalomaniac.
Post by abelard'Liary keeps going on about her wonderful experience and
record...i see much more evidence that trump can actually
back up his claims
???? Only because you want to.
Post by abelardPost by James Harrisand I think he genuinely believes in his own rhetoric.
does he? is that a mind-read?
do you believe in your rhetoric? you know, that cascade of unbacked
adjectives you copied from the fossil media
Fossil media? Oh, you mean the news media that actually reports news at least with some objectivity. I suppose Fox and Breibart are your idea of modern media, constant purveyors of winger propaganda and lies.
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisHe feels that those who speak against him are prejudiced and wrong
so do you
The difference being that Trump responds with anger, shouting, threats, mockery, adolescent name-calling, shouting and inane, unfounded accusations.
Post by abelardPost by James Harrisbecause he is so wonderful. Putin apparently called him flamboyant but
Trump claimed that Putin had called him a genius!
i don't know whether putin did or did not...
I know what he said about Putin ""Look at Putin -- what he's doing with Russia -- I mean, you know, what's going on over there. I mean this guy has done -- whether you like him or don't like him -- he's doing a great job in rebuilding the image of Russia and also rebuilding Russia period."
Russia is now in a deep recession and has been for a while. Putin has done a great job at murdering journalists and jailing his political opponents. Now, who wants to jail his opponents? Oh, yes, Trump.
Post by abelardwhile he may not be what i'd call a genius,,,he certainly
looks like one alongside missis clinton...
so indeed does mister clinton alongside her
Hillary made him look like a total ass and bully during their debates. She has class. He has none.
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisI have nothing against him personally
i do hope he appreciates that...
Post by James Harrisand have ignored the sexism issue
because we cannot tell whether the women who accused him were telling
the truth or not.
indeed you don't, but of course you will mention it anyway
Post by James HarrisBut I have seen more than enough coming out of his own
mouth to view his as dangerously disconnected from reality.
i'll be more convinced when you make a better case, if you ever do
A better case? You have Trump's own, disgusting statements to consider. Of course if you think "grab them by the pussy" is just manly talk, fine. I think it's indicative of a vulgar, mean, dirty, bullying old man.
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisPutting a thin-skinned fantasist in charge of the most powerful nation
on earth doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
you seem to confuse what a person says with what they do....
how does that work with 'Liary who can hardly open her mouth
without lying?
Really? Have an example? Trump denied saying he supported the war in Iraq even when shown the tape. He lies about everything, continually. He has the most "pants on fire" rating of any politician ever measured.
Post by abelardPost by James HarrisPost by abelardmeanwhile it is *clear* that 'Liary has broken serious laws, laws
which tend to attract long prison sentences...
the clinton machine even looks to me to be vulnerable to rico...
I don't know how clear Clinton's guilt is or not but would have thought
it was up to prosecutors to establish that in court.
i expect them to be given much opportunity to do that...
Really? Why? Because you say so?
Post by abelardof course i also expect o'barmy to forgive her...i even wonder
if she will give herself an official exemption!....
No, she wouldn't do that. She's not a Republican. I know you think it's terribly clever to make fun of people's names, but it isn't. It's juvenile but it is the kind of childish taunt I'd expect from a rather stupid Trump supporter.
Rest of rather boring, unless unsupported crapola snipped.
Grow up, Abelard. You're neither clever nor witty. You're just stupid.