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UMRA birthday info for 4 August 2019
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Birthday Monitor
2019-08-04 06:27:27 UTC
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Birthday News for today, 4 August: Betty Tucker.
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Mike
2019-08-04 08:06:23 UTC
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Post by Birthday Monitor
Birthday News for today, 4 August: Betty Tucker.
Mike hasn’t even mentioned it!
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Penny
2019-08-04 09:50:03 UTC
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On Sun, 04 Aug 2019 08:06:23 GMT, Mike <***@ntlworld.com> scrawled
in the dust...
Post by Mike
Post by Birthday Monitor
Birthday News for today, 4 August: Betty Tucker.
Mike hasn’t even mentioned it!
Mike hasn't been heard from for a very long time - neither has Roy.
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Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Mike
2019-08-04 10:24:33 UTC
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Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Mike
Post by Birthday Monitor
Birthday News for today, 4 August: Betty Tucker.
Mike hasn’t even mentioned it!
Mike hasn't been heard from for a very long time - neither has Roy.
Presactly!
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Toodle Pip
Vicky Ayech
2019-08-04 16:49:07 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Birthday Monitor
Birthday News for today, 4 August: Betty Tucker.
Mike hasn’t even mentioned it!
Mike hasn't been heard from for a very long time - neither has Roy.
Presactly!
I think Vicky and Mike should come back with Umbrella and help the
Saint to run riding for the disabled as her project when she failed to
get onto the vicar course.
I was surprised Alan said he'd been expecting her to return for it, as
if he approved. I don't as she is a nosy and bossy cow. Not suitable.
But maybe he just said nice things knowing she will fail.
Mike
2019-08-04 17:18:51 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Birthday Monitor
Birthday News for today, 4 August: Betty Tucker.
Mike hasn’t even mentioned it!
Mike hasn't been heard from for a very long time - neither has Roy.
Presactly!
I think Vicky and Mike should come back with Umbrella and help the
Saint to run riding for the disabled as her project when she failed to
get onto the vicar course.
I was surprised Alan said he'd been expecting her to return for it, as
if he approved. I don't as she is a nosy and bossy cow. Not suitable.
But maybe he just said nice things knowing she will fail.
Alan saying he expected her to return is not the same thing as approving or
condoning her decision; no doubt if asked, he may have offered his views to
Shula but I’m sure his ‘duty’ would require he encourage anyone rather than
discourage them.
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Toodle Pip
Sally Thompson
2019-08-04 19:43:07 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Birthday Monitor
Birthday News for today, 4 August: Betty Tucker.
Mike hasn’t even mentioned it!
Mike hasn't been heard from for a very long time - neither has Roy.
Presactly!
I think Vicky and Mike should come back with Umbrella and help the
Saint to run riding for the disabled as her project when she failed to
get onto the vicar course.
I was surprised Alan said he'd been expecting her to return for it, as
if he approved. I don't as she is a nosy and bossy cow. Not suitable.
But maybe he just said nice things knowing she will fail.
Alan saying he expected her to return is not the same thing as approving or
condoning her decision; no doubt if asked, he may have offered his views to
Shula but I’m sure his ‘duty’ would require he encourage anyone rather than
discourage them.
Eggzactly. I think anyone who says, as Shula did, "I think I'd make a good
vicar" would be unsuitable just by that statement.
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Sally in Shropshire, UK
Nick Odell
2019-08-04 20:16:53 UTC
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Post by Sally Thompson
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Birthday Monitor
Birthday News for today, 4 August: Betty Tucker.
Mike hasn’t even mentioned it!
Mike hasn't been heard from for a very long time - neither has Roy.
Presactly!
I think Vicky and Mike should come back with Umbrella and help the
Saint to run riding for the disabled as her project when she failed to
get onto the vicar course.
I was surprised Alan said he'd been expecting her to return for it, as
if he approved. I don't as she is a nosy and bossy cow. Not suitable.
But maybe he just said nice things knowing she will fail.
Alan saying he expected her to return is not the same thing as approving or
condoning her decision; no doubt if asked, he may have offered his views to
Shula but I’m sure his ‘duty’ would require he encourage anyone rather than
discourage them.
Eggzactly. I think anyone who says, as Shula did, "I think I'd make a good
vicar" would be unsuitable just by that statement.
This seems a suitably unsuitable place to jump in and say I'll be
maintaining radio silence for a couple of weeks - but don't think for a
moment that I won't be watching you! I absolutely refuse to let my phone
know my Google Groups password - or any other password, come to that -
so I'll be in receive-only mode until we come back.

We are leaving Buenos Aires tomorrow morning and flying with Flybondi[1]
to Jujuy[2] and after a couple of days moving on to Cafayate[3] and then
to Salta and Tucuman[4] Before we come back to Buenos Aires on the train
- the same one American writer Paul Theroux travelled on in his book
"The Old Patagonian Express" and which he called Estrella del Norte - we
will spend a night at at astronomical observatory high in the Andes
mountains where the stars are very clear but the nights are very cold!
We are taking lots of camera gear for that but can't vouch for the
results we'll get.

Please don't hold a General Election 'til I get back!

Nick
[1]Translated from Argentine Spanish slang it means "flying bus."
[2]pronounced Who-Hooey
[3]"y" pronounced like the soft "g" in Geronimo
[4]which are pronounced just as you would expect :)
Kate B
2019-08-04 22:07:26 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Birthday Monitor
Birthday News for today, 4 August: Betty Tucker.
Mike hasn’t even mentioned it!
Mike hasn't been heard from for a very long time - neither has Roy.
Presactly!
I think Vicky and Mike should come back with Umbrella and help the
Saint to run riding for the disabled as her project when she failed to
get onto the vicar course.
I was surprised Alan said he'd been expecting her to return for it, as
if he approved. I don't as she is a nosy and bossy cow. Not suitable.
But maybe he just said nice things knowing she will fail.
Alan saying he expected her to return is not the same thing as approving or
condoning her decision; no doubt if asked, he may have offered his views to
Shula but I’m sure his ‘duty’ would require he encourage anyone rather than
discourage them.
Eggzactly. I think anyone who says, as Shula did, "I think I'd make a good
vicar" would be unsuitable just by that statement.
This seems a suitably unsuitable place to jump in and say I'll be
maintaining radio silence for a couple of weeks - but don't think for a
moment that I won't be watching you! I absolutely refuse to let my phone
know my Google Groups password - or any other password, come to that -
so I'll be in receive-only mode until we come back.
We are leaving Buenos Aires tomorrow morning and flying with Flybondi[1]
to Jujuy[2] and after a couple of days moving on to Cafayate[3] and then
to Salta and Tucuman[4] Before we come back to Buenos Aires on the train
- the same one American writer Paul Theroux travelled on in his book
"The Old Patagonian Express" and which he called Estrella del Norte - we
will spend a night at at astronomical observatory high in the Andes
mountains where the stars are very clear but the nights are very cold!
We are taking lots of camera gear for that but can't vouch for the
results we'll get.
Please don't hold a General Election 'til I get back!
Nick
[1]Translated from Argentine Spanish slang it means "flying bus."
[2]pronounced Who-Hooey
[3]"y" pronounced like the soft "g" in Geronimo
[4]which are pronounced just as you would expect :)
Have a stellar time! Looking forward to seeing some pics when you get back.
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Kate B
London
BrritSki
2019-08-05 07:05:02 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Post by Penny
On Sun, 04 Aug 2019 08:06:23 GMT, Mike
in the dust...
Post by Birthday Monitor
Birthday News for today, 4 August: Betty Tucker.
Mike hasn’t even mentioned it!
Mike hasn't been heard from for a very long time - neither has Roy.
Presactly!
I think Vicky and Mike should come back with Umbrella and help the
Saint to run riding for the disabled as her project when she failed to
get onto the vicar course.
I was surprised Alan said he'd been expecting her to return for it, as
if he approved. I don't as she is a nosy and bossy cow. Not suitable.
But maybe he just said nice things knowing she will fail.
Alan saying he expected her to return is not the same thing as approving or
condoning her decision; no doubt if asked, he may have offered his views to
Shula but I’m sure his ‘duty’ would require he encourage anyone rather than
discourage them.
Eggzactly. I think anyone who says, as Shula did, "I think I'd make a good
vicar" would be unsuitable just by that statement.
This seems a suitably unsuitable place to jump in and say I'll be
maintaining radio silence for a couple of weeks - but don't think for
a moment that I won't be watching you! I absolutely refuse to let my
phone know my Google Groups password - or any other password, come to
that - so I'll be in receive-only mode until we come back.
We are leaving Buenos Aires tomorrow morning and flying with
Flybondi[1] to Jujuy[2] and after a couple of days moving on to
Cafayate[3] and then to Salta and Tucuman[4] Before we come back to
Buenos Aires on the train - the same one American writer Paul Theroux
travelled on in his book "The Old Patagonian Express" and which he
called Estrella del Norte - we will spend a night at at astronomical
observatory high in the Andes mountains where the stars are very clear
but the nights are very cold! We are taking lots of camera gear for
that but can't vouch for the results we'll get.
Please don't hold a General Election 'til I get back!
Nick
[1]Translated from Argentine Spanish slang it means "flying bus."
[2]pronounced Who-Hooey
[3]"y" pronounced like the soft "g" in Geronimo
[4]which are pronounced just as you would expect :)
Have a stellar time!  Looking forward to seeing some pics when you get
back.
<languid wave> To avoid camera shake, wrap up well and avoid the Stella !
Vicky Ayech
2019-08-04 22:17:08 UTC
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On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 21:16:53 +0100, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
This seems a suitably unsuitable place to jump in and say I'll be
maintaining radio silence for a couple of weeks - but don't think for a
moment that I won't be watching you! I absolutely refuse to let my phone
know my Google Groups password - or any other password, come to that -
so I'll be in receive-only mode until we come back.
We are leaving Buenos Aires tomorrow morning and flying with Flybondi[1]
to Jujuy[2] and after a couple of days moving on to Cafayate[3] and then
to Salta and Tucuman[4] Before we come back to Buenos Aires on the train
- the same one American writer Paul Theroux travelled on in his book
"The Old Patagonian Express" and which he called Estrella del Norte - we
will spend a night at at astronomical observatory high in the Andes
mountains where the stars are very clear but the nights are very cold!
We are taking lots of camera gear for that but can't vouch for the
results we'll get.
Please don't hold a General Election 'til I get back!
Nick
[1]Translated from Argentine Spanish slang it means "flying bus."
[2]pronounced Who-Hooey
[3]"y" pronounced like the soft "g" in Geronimo
[4]which are pronounced just as you would expect :)
Bon voyage.
Fenny
2019-08-04 23:14:51 UTC
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On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 21:16:53 +0100, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Please don't hold a General Election 'til I get back!
Even if one is called, it can't happen in 2 weeks. Hope you've got
your proxy vote sorted.
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Fenny
Nick Odell
2019-08-23 02:58:56 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 21:16:53 +0100, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Please don't hold a General Election 'til I get back!
Even if one is called, it can't happen in 2 weeks. Hope you've got
your proxy vote sorted.
It doesn't look as if anything will happen before I get back anyway but,
may I ask for your comments about proxy voting, please?

It seems to me that I can arrange for my voting method to become postal
any time I want to but I interpret the Kirklees website as saying that I
can only register for a proxy vote once an election has been called. Am
I reading that right? Ideally, I'd like to register a continuous proxy
since, if I'm around I still have the option to vote in person. I think
I have to use snail mail but if I would have to wait until an election
is called and mail in my request for a proxy at that point it's doubtful
whether anything meaningful would arrive from here before everything is
over.

That can't be right, can it?

Nick
Chris J Dixon
2019-08-23 05:40:10 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
It seems to me that I can arrange for my voting method to become postal
any time I want to but I interpret the Kirklees website as saying that I
can only register for a proxy vote once an election has been called. Am
I reading that right? Ideally, I'd like to register a continuous proxy
since, if I'm around I still have the option to vote in person. I think
I have to use snail mail but if I would have to wait until an election
is called and mail in my request for a proxy at that point it's doubtful
whether anything meaningful would arrive from here before everything is
over.
That can't be right, can it?
Not in my experience. BOFE asked for a proxy because she was
abroad a couple of years ago, and still has it. Not connected to
any particular voting occasion.

Chris
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krw
2019-08-23 10:31:46 UTC
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Post by Chris J Dixon
Post by Nick Odell
It seems to me that I can arrange for my voting method to become postal
any time I want to but I interpret the Kirklees website as saying that I
can only register for a proxy vote once an election has been called. Am
I reading that right? Ideally, I'd like to register a continuous proxy
since, if I'm around I still have the option to vote in person. I think
I have to use snail mail but if I would have to wait until an election
is called and mail in my request for a proxy at that point it's doubtful
whether anything meaningful would arrive from here before everything is
over.
That can't be right, can it?
Not in my experience. BOFE asked for a proxy because she was
abroad a couple of years ago, and still has it. Not connected to
any particular voting occasion.
Chris
We certainly have permanent postal voting registrations as we cannot be
sure we won't be on holiday.
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Nick Odell
2019-08-23 12:22:21 UTC
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Post by krw
Post by Chris J Dixon
Post by Nick Odell
It seems to me that I can arrange for my voting method to become postal
any time I want to but I interpret the Kirklees website as saying that I
can only register for a proxy vote once an election has been called. Am
I reading that right? Ideally, I'd like to register a continuous proxy
since, if I'm around I still have the option to vote in person. I think
I have to use snail mail but if I would have to wait until an election
is called and mail in my request for a proxy at that point it's doubtful
whether anything meaningful would arrive from here before everything is
over.
That can't be right, can it?
Not in my experience. BOFE asked for a proxy because she was
abroad a couple of years ago, and still has it. Not connected to
any particular voting occasion.
Chris
We certainly have permanent postal voting registrations as we cannot be
sure we won't be on holiday.
I'm not sure how useful a postal vote would be if you are on holiday and
can't receive your post. Is there an internet option?

Nick
Penny
2019-08-23 13:50:28 UTC
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On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:22:21 +0100, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Post by krw
Post by Chris J Dixon
Post by Nick Odell
It seems to me that I can arrange for my voting method to become postal
any time I want to but I interpret the Kirklees website as saying that I
can only register for a proxy vote once an election has been called. Am
I reading that right? Ideally, I'd like to register a continuous proxy
since, if I'm around I still have the option to vote in person. I think
I have to use snail mail but if I would have to wait until an election
is called and mail in my request for a proxy at that point it's doubtful
whether anything meaningful would arrive from here before everything is
over.
That can't be right, can it?
Not in my experience. BOFE asked for a proxy because she was
abroad a couple of years ago, and still has it. Not connected to
any particular voting occasion.
Chris
We certainly have permanent postal voting registrations as we cannot be
sure we won't be on holiday.
I'm not sure how useful a postal vote would be if you are on holiday and
can't receive your post. Is there an internet option?
You can apply online but voting must be done on a piece of paper which
arrives with sometimes confusing instructions (if you live in Wales you can
struggle to make sense of them in two languages).

Whether they would accept an address elsewhere in the world, I've no idea.
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Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Nick Leverton
2019-08-23 14:25:16 UTC
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Post by Penny
On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:22:21 +0100, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Post by krw
We certainly have permanent postal voting registrations as we cannot be
sure we won't be on holiday.
I'm not sure how useful a postal vote would be if you are on holiday and
can't receive your post. Is there an internet option?
Thankfully not, since internet voting not only is not secure but AIUI,
from people who study these things, probably can't be made secure.
Post by Penny
You can apply online but voting must be done on a piece of paper which
arrives with sometimes confusing instructions (if you live in Wales you can
struggle to make sense of them in two languages).
Whether they would accept an address elsewhere in the world, I've no idea.
The problem with postal votes is that one must still visit home within
a week to ten days before the poll, to pick up the ballot forms and
envelopes. A proxy vote may be easier to manage for extended trips away.
I think both types of remote voting are available in both one-off and
permanent setups. You can apply at any time for the permanent type.

https://www.gov.uk/voting-in-the-uk/voting-by-proxy leads to a trail
of twisty little forms of which the "living overseas" one is probably
most applicable - it doesn't ask how long one is living away for, nor
for any confirmation or declaration. If in doubt perhaps an email to
your local electoral return officer might be helpful ?

Nick
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-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996
Mike
2019-08-23 14:37:53 UTC
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Post by Nick Leverton
Post by Penny
On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:22:21 +0100, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Post by krw
We certainly have permanent postal voting registrations as we cannot be
sure we won't be on holiday.
I'm not sure how useful a postal vote would be if you are on holiday and
can't receive your post. Is there an internet option?
Thankfully not, since internet voting not only is not secure but AIUI,
from people who study these things, probably can't be made secure.
Post by Penny
You can apply online but voting must be done on a piece of paper which
arrives with sometimes confusing instructions (if you live in Wales you can
struggle to make sense of them in two languages).
Whether they would accept an address elsewhere in the world, I've no idea.
The problem with postal votes is that one must still visit home within
a week to ten days before the poll, to pick up the ballot forms and
envelopes. A proxy vote may be easier to manage for extended trips away.
I think both types of remote voting are available in both one-off and
permanent setups. You can apply at any time for the permanent type.
https://www.gov.uk/voting-in-the-uk/voting-by-proxy leads to a trail
of twisty little forms of which the "living overseas" one is probably
most applicable - it doesn't ask how long one is living away for, nor
for any confirmation or declaration. If in doubt perhaps an email to
your local electoral return officer might be helpful ?
Nick
We both have postal voting as our usual voting station is not ‘disability
friendly’ at all; the booths are located in a part of the hall where the
light level is hardly better than a darkroom.
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Sam Plusnet
2019-08-23 20:15:30 UTC
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Post by Nick Leverton
Thankfully not, since internet voting not only is not secure but AIUI,
from people who study these things, probably can't be made secure.
You just reminded me that in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" Heinlein has
everyone on the moon vote via their banks, since they already have a
secure means of checking identity and recording transactions.

I don't suppose he would have imagined that in the 21st century there
would be so many people without easy access to banks.
(Nor could he have predicted internet banking, but that's another story.)
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Sam Plusnet
Nick Odell
2019-08-23 21:04:06 UTC
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Post by Nick Leverton
Post by Penny
On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:22:21 +0100, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Post by krw
We certainly have permanent postal voting registrations as we cannot be
sure we won't be on holiday.
I'm not sure how useful a postal vote would be if you are on holiday and
can't receive your post. Is there an internet option?
Thankfully not, since internet voting not only is not secure but AIUI,
from people who study these things, probably can't be made secure.
I actually meant an internet option for receiving the documents, not for
voting though I can see that also opens up bountiful opportunities for
fraud.
Post by Nick Leverton
Post by Penny
You can apply online but voting must be done on a piece of paper which
arrives with sometimes confusing instructions (if you live in Wales you can
struggle to make sense of them in two languages).
Whether they would accept an address elsewhere in the world, I've no idea.
The problem with postal votes is that one must still visit home within
a week to ten days before the poll, to pick up the ballot forms and
envelopes. A proxy vote may be easier to manage for extended trips away.
I think both types of remote voting are available in both one-off and
permanent setups. You can apply at any time for the permanent type.
https://www.gov.uk/voting-in-the-uk/voting-by-proxy leads to a trail
of twisty little forms of which the "living overseas" one is probably
most applicable - it doesn't ask how long one is living away for, nor
for any confirmation or declaration. If in doubt perhaps an email to
your local electoral return officer might be helpful ?
There are a number of issues over the "living overseas" options. It
means I think, where you are domiciled and a few months there, instead
of here (FSVO "here" and "there") doesn't really count. Also, if they
have you as living over "there" you lose eligibility for NHS treatment
etc and after 15yrs, lose eligibility to vote too.

Nick
Fenny
2019-08-23 23:03:48 UTC
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On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 22:04:06 +0100, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
I actually meant an internet option for receiving the documents, not for
voting though I can see that also opens up bountiful opportunities for
fraud.
I can't comment on whether it's possible to set up a permanent proxy
vote - but I can make enquiries next week when I'm back in the
proximity of the Elections team.

But no, theres' no way to receive the documents electronically. UK
voting is all done by actual pieces of paper with suitable physical
marks on them.

As someone said, you have to be at your registered address to receive
your postal vote. I was away for the EU referendum vote in 2016, so
registered for a postal vote. My ballot paper arrived the day before I
went away - less than 2 weeks before the election date. I think I may
well have posted it from the airport.

I now have a permanent postal vote due to the fact that working in a
polling station means I can't vote in person [1] (unless I'm allocated
to my own polling station [2]). But a postal vote means I can drop it
in the ballot box in the Elections office on the way along the
corridor any time before polling day.

[1] Have to arrive to open up by 6.30am and can't leave until
everytihng is closed down and all the paperwork completed after 10pm

[2] A 5 minute walk round the corner sure beats an hour's drive at OMG
it's early o'clock of the morning and ugh, I've been awake since OMG
o'clock on the way home listening to the inane ramblings of the
Election Special team on the radio filling time until the first
results come in.
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Fenny
Mike
2019-08-05 08:07:25 UTC
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Nick Odell <***@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
and then
Post by Nick Odell
to Salta and Tucuman[4] Before we come back to Buenos Aires on the train
Nick
[
[4]which are pronounced just as you would expect :)
Well, dunno ‘bout yew but, I’d pronounce it ‘Salta and Tucuman’, ‘Salta and
Tucuman’ or perhaps ‘Salta and Tucuman’. (But the, each to their own I
s’pose.)
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Toodle Pip
Penny
2019-08-05 09:33:24 UTC
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On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 08:07:25 GMT, Mike <***@ntlworld.com> scrawled
in the dust...
Post by Nick Odell
and then
Post by Nick Odell
to Salta and Tucuman[4] Before we come back to Buenos Aires on the train
Nick
[
[4]which are pronounced just as you would expect :)
Well, dunno ‘bout yew but, I’d pronounce it ‘Salta and Tucuman’, ‘Salta and
Tucuman’ or perhaps ‘Salta and Tucuman’. (But the, each to their own I
s’pose.)
My thoughts exactly.
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Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Chris McMillan
2019-08-06 08:51:32 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Birthday Monitor
Birthday News for today, 4 August: Betty Tucker.
Mike hasn’t even mentioned it!
Mike hasn't been heard from for a very long time - neither has Roy.
Presactly!
I think Vicky and Mike should come back with Umbrella and help the
Saint to run riding for the disabled as her project when she failed to
get onto the vicar course.
I was surprised Alan said he'd been expecting her to return for it, as
if he approved. I don't as she is a nosy and bossy cow. Not suitable.
But maybe he just said nice things knowing she will fail.
Alan saying he expected her to return is not the same thing as approving or
condoning her decision; no doubt if asked, he may have offered his views to
Shula but I’m sure his ‘duty’ would require he encourage anyone rather than
discourage them.
Eggzactly. I think anyone who says, as Shula did, "I think I'd make a good
vicar" would be unsuitable just by that statement.
This seems a suitably unsuitable place to jump in and say I'll be
maintaining radio silence for a couple of weeks - but don't think for a
moment that I won't be watching you! I absolutely refuse to let my phone
know my Google Groups password - or any other password, come to that -
so I'll be in receive-only mode until we come back.
We are leaving Buenos Aires tomorrow morning and flying with Flybondi[1]
to Jujuy[2] and after a couple of days moving on to Cafayate[3] and then
to Salta and Tucuman[4] Before we come back to Buenos Aires on the train
- the same one American writer Paul Theroux travelled on in his book
"The Old Patagonian Express" and which he called Estrella del Norte - we
will spend a night at at astronomical observatory high in the Andes
mountains where the stars are very clear but the nights are very cold!
We are taking lots of camera gear for that but can't vouch for the
results we'll get.
Please don't hold a General Election 'til I get back!
Nick
[1]Translated from Argentine Spanish slang it means "flying bus."
[2]pronounced Who-Hooey
[3]"y" pronounced like the soft "g" in Geronimo
[4]which are pronounced just as you would expect :)
Enjoy both! (Not read that particular one)

Sincerely Chris
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