Discussion:
Lucy's week in Ambridge
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Vicky Ayech
2020-02-08 18:06:13 UTC
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Mike
2020-02-08 18:30:13 UTC
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http://youtu.be/Adyxa7QsUQ8
I like the idea of fresh blood from a lentil.
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DavidK
2020-02-09 09:27:06 UTC
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http://youtu.be/Adyxa7QsUQ8
I like the idea of fresh blood from a lentil.
It was very witty, but I'd rather have read it. It seems a modern thing
to publish a video of instructions instead of writing it down so that
the reader can refer back to difficult parts, and maybe this vblog is
the equivalent.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-02-09 14:22:39 UTC
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http://youtu.be/Adyxa7QsUQ8
I like the idea of fresh blood from a lentil.
It was very witty, but I'd rather have read it. It seems a modern thing
Yes, I thought that.
Post by DavidK
to publish a video of instructions instead of writing it down so that
the reader can refer back to difficult parts, and maybe this vblog is
the equivalent.
Instructional videos are excellent where they actually _show_ you
something (where the screws are, or where to click if it's software),
but I agree, where it's just a talking head, I'd rather have just the
audio, or indeed just the text.

YouTube and social media are at least partly to blame: YouTube because
AFAIK they _only_ accept video (thus a lot of the music tracks I like
are video of a record player! [Though that can be fun for nostalgic
reasons - Garrard USW.]), and social media in general for making people
think that video or audio are better than text.
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The average age of a single mum in this country is 37
- Jane Rackham, RT 2016/5/28-6/3
Penny
2020-02-09 15:33:03 UTC
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On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 14:22:39 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
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Post by DavidK
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
http://youtu.be/Adyxa7QsUQ8
I like the idea of fresh blood from a lentil.
It was very witty, but I'd rather have read it. It seems a modern thing
Yes, I thought that.
Post by DavidK
to publish a video of instructions instead of writing it down so that
the reader can refer back to difficult parts, and maybe this vblog is
the equivalent.
Instructional videos are excellent where they actually _show_ you
something (where the screws are, or where to click if it's software),
but I agree, where it's just a talking head, I'd rather have just the
audio, or indeed just the text.
YouTube and social media are at least partly to blame: YouTube because
AFAIK they _only_ accept video (thus a lot of the music tracks I like
are video of a record player! [Though that can be fun for nostalgic
reasons - Garrard USW.]), and social media in general for making people
think that video or audio are better than text.
I'm inclined to agree - I prefer instructions in well-written text with
good diagrams rather than either audio or video - so much easier to
back-track and reread, for one thing. Very occasionally a brief video clip
can be helpful.

Drifting slightly, I shared an amusing 'use of the apostrophe' twitter
thread on facebook earlier (is there an apostrophe in FFS and where should
it go?). One of my old friends popped up and asked if proper use of the
apostrophe was no longer taught.

Andy Roberts said, "Contagion. The more we are exposed to random bad
spelling and punctuation examples, the more susceptible we become to the
possibility of absentmindedly making them ourselves. So pointing out errors
is actually counterproductive through reproducing them or drawing in more
attention."

He may have a point. My typing has always been lousy and I've been accused
of being an imposter lately by both friends and family for small
grammatical errors. I tend to listen to books rather than reading them now,
which may be a factor.
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Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
BrritSki
2020-02-09 20:25:56 UTC
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Post by Penny
I'm inclined to agree - I prefer instructions in well-written text with
good diagrams rather than either audio or video - so much easier to
back-track and reread, for one thing. Very occasionally a brief video clip
can be helpful.
Up to a point Lord Copper.

F'rinstance, I just followed a video on how to apply KT tape to my knee.
it would have been very difficult to explain as well in text/pictures.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-02-09 21:30:16 UTC
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Post by Penny
I'm inclined to agree - I prefer instructions in well-written text with
good diagrams rather than either audio or video - so much easier to
back-track and reread, for one thing. Very occasionally a brief video clip
can be helpful.
I agree with BrritSki (and your "very occasionally"): there are times
when a video clip can be invaluable. In entertainment too - various
Python, or (OK, audio clip) radio scripts just aren't the same as
scripts.
Post by Penny
Drifting slightly, I shared an amusing 'use of the apostrophe' twitter
thread on facebook earlier (is there an apostrophe in FFS and where should
it go?). One of my old friends popped up and asked if proper use of the
apostrophe was no longer taught.
[My thinking is that the phrase in full would have one, as would
"FF'sS", but FFS wouldn't.]
Post by Penny
Andy Roberts said, "Contagion. The more we are exposed to random bad
spelling and punctuation examples, the more susceptible we become to the
possibility of absentmindedly making them ourselves. So pointing out errors
is actually counterproductive through reproducing them or drawing in more
attention."
He may have a point.
I'm not sure. Certainly if you can give the correct version _without_
quoting the wrong one, it's better (for that reason).
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

You know what the big secret about posh people is? Most of them are lovely.
- Richard Osman, RT 2016/7/9-15
Penny
2020-02-10 08:51:46 UTC
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On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 21:30:16 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Penny
Drifting slightly, I shared an amusing 'use of the apostrophe' twitter
thread on facebook earlier (is there an apostrophe in FFS and where should
it go?). One of my old friends popped up and asked if proper use of the
apostrophe was no longer taught.
[My thinking is that the phrase in full would have one, as would
"FF'sS", but FFS wouldn't.]
The phrase in full was under discussion and, as someone on the thread
pointed out, it depends whether it is one specific F or all the Fs.
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Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-02-10 14:18:36 UTC
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Post by Penny
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 21:30:16 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Penny
Drifting slightly, I shared an amusing 'use of the apostrophe' twitter
thread on facebook earlier (is there an apostrophe in FFS and where should
it go?). One of my old friends popped up and asked if proper use of the
apostrophe was no longer taught.
[My thinking is that the phrase in full would have one, as would
"FF'sS", but FFS wouldn't.]
The phrase in full was under discussion and, as someone on the thread
pointed out, it depends whether it is one specific F or all the Fs.
Or, indeed, whether it's a singular to represent all, as in "in the
interests of good design" (where the singular design represents many
designs). [Sorry, just been submitting my feedback to the neighbourhood
plan (http://255soft.uk/temp/my-NP-fb.pdf if anyone's interested, but
you really won't be).]
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'evidence'. Professor Edzart Ernst, prudential
magazine, AUTUMN 2006, p. 13.
krw
2020-02-25 21:38:08 UTC
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Post by Penny
My typing has always been lousy and I've been accused
of being an imposter lately by both friends and family for small
grammatical errors.
I was recently mortified to read an email I had sent which contained a
"their" when it should have been "there" or a "there" when it should
have been "their" (I cannot remember which way round it was).

Can I blame the spell checker?
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Penny
2020-02-25 23:57:31 UTC
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Post by Penny
My typing has always been lousy and I've been accused
of being an imposter lately by both friends and family for small
grammatical errors.
I was recently mortified to read an email I had sent which contained a
"their" when it should have been "there" or a "there" when it should
have been "their" (I cannot remember which way round it was).
Can I blame the spell checker?
I usually say my fingers are deaf these days.
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Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Penny
2020-02-09 11:00:34 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
http://youtu.be/Adyxa7QsUQ8
I also found a 2 year-old video "Lucy speaks to Sunny Ormonde". I assume it
was a Skype call and only Sunny's side of the conversation is audible, a
lot of which is her saying "Yes" and laughing.
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Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
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