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Ignorant people are more religious
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.

Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.

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2017-05-15 09:54:40 UTC
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.

Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?

Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
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2017-05-15 11:19:09 UTC
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
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Religion is the wisdom of the East, Science is the wisdom of the West.
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2017-05-15 14:36:59 UTC
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.

Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.

Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.

Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
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2017-05-15 16:25:24 UTC
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.

I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.

Abhinav Lal
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.
I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Carl Sagan says the Hindu view: Creation, Preservation, Destruction, ....repeat
conforms to the modern Scientific View of creation.

If adherents of Hinduism do not follow the precepts of the religion, it is not the fault of the religion.

But if the religion teaches immorality (jihad against Kafirs, in Islam) it is the fault of the religion.
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.
I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Carl Sagan says the Hindu view: Creation, Preservation, Destruction, ....repeat
conforms to the modern Scientific View of creation.
I don't believe that Sagan is necessarily right. The universe began in a Big Bang approximately 14 billion years ago. It has not yet been determined how the universe will end. It is an open question, if the universe is cyclical.

The concept of gods, also contradicts science.
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If adherents of Hinduism do not follow the precepts of the religion, it is not the fault of the religion.
What about the treatment of untouchables in Hinduism? Is it moral?

What about Narabali, a form of human sacrifice using torture? Is it moral?
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But if the religion teaches immorality (jihad against Kafirs, in Islam) it is the fault of the religion.
Yes, Islam is at fault for their immoral teachings.

Abhinav Lal
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.
I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Carl Sagan says the Hindu view: Creation, Preservation, Destruction, ....repeat
conforms to the modern Scientific View of creation.
I don't believe that Sagan is necessarily right. The universe began in a Big Bang approximately 14 billion years ago. It has not yet been determined how the universe will end. It is an open question, if the universe is cyclical.
The concept of gods, also contradicts science.
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If adherents of Hinduism do not follow the precepts of the religion, it is not the fault of the religion.
What about the treatment of untouchables in Hinduism? Is it moral?
What about Narabali, a form of human sacrifice using torture? Is it moral?
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But if the religion teaches immorality (jihad against Kafirs, in Islam) it is the fault of the religion.
Yes, Islam is at fault for their immoral teachings.
Abhinav Lal
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Untouchability and human sacrifice have been rejected by Hindus.
They do not have the force of law anywhere Hindus live.
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.
I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Carl Sagan says the Hindu view: Creation, Preservation, Destruction, ....repeat
conforms to the modern Scientific View of creation.
I don't believe that Sagan is necessarily right. The universe began in a Big Bang approximately 14 billion years ago. It has not yet been determined how the universe will end. It is an open question, if the universe is cyclical.
The concept of gods, also contradicts science.
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If adherents of Hinduism do not follow the precepts of the religion, it is not the fault of the religion.
What about the treatment of untouchables in Hinduism? Is it moral?
What about Narabali, a form of human sacrifice using torture? Is it moral?
Post by fanabba
But if the religion teaches immorality (jihad against Kafirs, in Islam) it is the fault of the religion.
Yes, Islam is at fault for their immoral teachings.
Abhinav Lal
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The Bhagavad Gita is the primary text of Hinduism.
It does not teach human sacrifice or untouchability.
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.
I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Carl Sagan says the Hindu view: Creation, Preservation, Destruction, ....repeat
conforms to the modern Scientific View of creation.
I don't believe that Sagan is necessarily right. The universe began in a Big Bang approximately 14 billion years ago. It has not yet been determined how the universe will end. It is an open question, if the universe is cyclical.
The concept of gods, also contradicts science.
Post by fanabba
If adherents of Hinduism do not follow the precepts of the religion, it is not the fault of the religion.
What about the treatment of untouchables in Hinduism? Is it moral?
What about Narabali, a form of human sacrifice using torture? Is it moral?
Post by fanabba
But if the religion teaches immorality (jihad against Kafirs, in Islam) it is the fault of the religion.
Yes, Islam is at fault for their immoral teachings.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Please define what you mean by God.
There is no universally accepted definition.
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.
I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Carl Sagan says the Hindu view: Creation, Preservation, Destruction, ....repeat
conforms to the modern Scientific View of creation.
I don't believe that Sagan is necessarily right. The universe began in a Big Bang approximately 14 billion years ago. It has not yet been determined how the universe will end. It is an open question, if the universe is cyclical.
The concept of gods, also contradicts science.
Post by fanabba
If adherents of Hinduism do not follow the precepts of the religion, it is not the fault of the religion.
What about the treatment of untouchables in Hinduism? Is it moral?
What about Narabali, a form of human sacrifice using torture? Is it moral?
Post by fanabba
But if the religion teaches immorality (jihad against Kafirs, in Islam) it is the fault of the religion.
Yes, Islam is at fault for their immoral teachings.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Please define what you mean by God.
There is no universally accepted definition.
God can mean different things to different people. If God can do things beyond the laws of nature, then such a god contradicts science.

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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.
I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Carl Sagan says the Hindu view: Creation, Preservation, Destruction, ....repeat
conforms to the modern Scientific View of creation.
I don't believe that Sagan is necessarily right. The universe began in a Big Bang approximately 14 billion years ago. It has not yet been determined how the universe will end. It is an open question, if the universe is cyclical.
The concept of gods, also contradicts science.
Post by fanabba
If adherents of Hinduism do not follow the precepts of the religion, it is not the fault of the religion.
What about the treatment of untouchables in Hinduism? Is it moral?
What about Narabali, a form of human sacrifice using torture? Is it moral?
Post by fanabba
But if the religion teaches immorality (jihad against Kafirs, in Islam) it is the fault of the religion.
Yes, Islam is at fault for their immoral teachings.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
How many Hindus practice human sacrifice ?
How many Muslims go on Jihad against Kafirs ?
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.
I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Carl Sagan says the Hindu view: Creation, Preservation, Destruction, ....repeat
conforms to the modern Scientific View of creation.
I don't believe that Sagan is necessarily right. The universe began in a Big Bang approximately 14 billion years ago. It has not yet been determined how the universe will end. It is an open question, if the universe is cyclical.
The concept of gods, also contradicts science.
Post by fanabba
If adherents of Hinduism do not follow the precepts of the religion, it is not the fault of the religion.
What about the treatment of untouchables in Hinduism? Is it moral?
What about Narabali, a form of human sacrifice using torture? Is it moral?
Post by fanabba
But if the religion teaches immorality (jihad against Kafirs, in Islam) it is the fault of the religion.
Yes, Islam is at fault for their immoral teachings.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
The last big bang occurred 14 billion years ago,according to you(how do you know it was the first big bang ?) Sagan agrees with Hinduism that there have been countless big bangs and big crunches, and there will continue to be countless more.
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.
I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Carl Sagan says the Hindu view: Creation, Preservation, Destruction, ....repeat
conforms to the modern Scientific View of creation.
I don't believe that Sagan is necessarily right. The universe began in a Big Bang approximately 14 billion years ago. It has not yet been determined how the universe will end. It is an open question, if the universe is cyclical.
The concept of gods, also contradicts science.
Post by fanabba
If adherents of Hinduism do not follow the precepts of the religion, it is not the fault of the religion.
What about the treatment of untouchables in Hinduism? Is it moral?
What about Narabali, a form of human sacrifice using torture? Is it moral?
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But if the religion teaches immorality (jihad against Kafirs, in Islam) it is the fault of the religion.
Yes, Islam is at fault for their immoral teachings.
Abhinav Lal
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The last big bang occurred 14 billion years ago,according to you(how do you know it was the first big bang ?) Sagan agrees with Hinduism that there have been countless big bangs and big crunches, and there will continue to be countless more.
The scientific consensus is that the universe began with a Big Bang approximately 13.8 billion years ago. Although some scientists have proposed a cyclic universe, it is not generally accepted.

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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.
I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Carl Sagan says the Hindu view: Creation, Preservation, Destruction, ....repeat
conforms to the modern Scientific View of creation.
I don't believe that Sagan is necessarily right. The universe began in a Big Bang approximately 14 billion years ago. It has not yet been determined how the universe will end. It is an open question, if the universe is cyclical.
The concept of gods, also contradicts science.
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If adherents of Hinduism do not follow the precepts of the religion, it is not the fault of the religion.
What about the treatment of untouchables in Hinduism? Is it moral?
What about Narabali, a form of human sacrifice using torture? Is it moral?
Post by fanabba
But if the religion teaches immorality (jihad against Kafirs, in Islam) it is the fault of the religion.
Yes, Islam is at fault for their immoral teachings.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
The last big bang occurred 14 billion years ago,according to you(how do you know it was the first big bang ?) Sagan agrees with Hinduism that there have been countless big bangs and big crunches, and there will continue to be countless more.
The scientific consensus is that the universe began with a Big Bang approximately 13.8 billion years ago. Although some scientists have proposed a cyclic universe, it is not generally accepted.
The scientists are ignorant and dishonest. Experiments indicate that the
universe is as big as our telescopes can show, and thus the universe is
infinite.

When scientists are corrupt, they cannot be taken seriously. In any case
scientific theories have to do with technology, nothing to do with human
relations and emotions.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.
I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Carl Sagan says the Hindu view: Creation, Preservation, Destruction, ....repeat
conforms to the modern Scientific View of creation.
I don't believe that Sagan is necessarily right. The universe began in a Big Bang approximately 14 billion years ago. It has not yet been determined how the universe will end. It is an open question, if the universe is cyclical.
The concept of gods, also contradicts science.
Post by fanabba
If adherents of Hinduism do not follow the precepts of the religion, it is not the fault of the religion.
What about the treatment of untouchables in Hinduism? Is it moral?
What about Narabali, a form of human sacrifice using torture? Is it moral?
Post by fanabba
But if the religion teaches immorality (jihad against Kafirs, in Islam) it is the fault of the religion.
Yes, Islam is at fault for their immoral teachings.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
The last big bang occurred 14 billion years ago,according to you(how do you know it was the first big bang ?) Sagan agrees with Hinduism that there have been countless big bangs and big crunches, and there will continue to be countless more.
The scientific consensus is that the universe began with a Big Bang approximately 13.8 billion years ago. Although some scientists have proposed a cyclic universe, it is not generally accepted.
The scientists are ignorant and dishonest. Experiments indicate that the
universe is as big as our telescopes can show, and thus the universe is
infinite.
Nothing is infinite. The universe is finite in age and size. Infinity is a mathematical concept which has no application in reality.

I am not a scientist, but I know this much.

Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
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When scientists are corrupt, they cannot be taken seriously. In any case
scientific theories have to do with technology, nothing to do with human
relations and emotions.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.
I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Carl Sagan says the Hindu view: Creation, Preservation, Destruction, ....repeat
conforms to the modern Scientific View of creation.
I don't believe that Sagan is necessarily right. The universe began in a Big Bang approximately 14 billion years ago. It has not yet been determined how the universe will end. It is an open question, if the universe is cyclical.
The concept of gods, also contradicts science.
Post by fanabba
If adherents of Hinduism do not follow the precepts of the religion, it is not the fault of the religion.
What about the treatment of untouchables in Hinduism? Is it moral?
What about Narabali, a form of human sacrifice using torture? Is it moral?
Post by fanabba
But if the religion teaches immorality (jihad against Kafirs, in Islam) it is the fault of the religion.
Yes, Islam is at fault for their immoral teachings.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
The last big bang occurred 14 billion years ago,according to you(how do you know it was the first big bang ?) Sagan agrees with Hinduism that there have been countless big bangs and big crunches, and there will continue to be countless more.
The scientific consensus is that the universe began with a Big Bang approximately 13.8 billion years ago. Although some scientists have proposed a cyclic universe, it is not generally accepted.
The scientists are ignorant and dishonest. Experiments indicate that the
universe is as big as our telescopes can show, and thus the universe is
infinite.
Nothing is infinite. The universe is finite in age and size. Infinity is a mathematical concept which has no application in reality.
I am not a scientist, but I know this much.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
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When scientists are corrupt, they cannot be taken seriously. In any case
scientific theories have to do with technology, nothing to do with human
relations and emotions.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
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Is space infinite ?
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What practical knowledge about the world does Hinduism contain? Does eastern religion have anything to compete with western science?
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Religion and Science are different.
But religion should not contradict science.
Also, religion should teach morality, not immorality.
Without morality, science is dangerous.
Without reasoning (science) , religion descends into sentimentality.
Even Einstein condemned Abrahamic religions( which he called Sky God religions)
and praised the "moral religions" of the East.
Sam Harris also says much the same thing.
What do the major religions have to say about the creation of the world and humans? I know Christianity contradicts science. What does Hinduism have to say? Doesn't Hindu belief in the soul contradict science, as there is no scientific evidence.
I agree that morality is important. We have to judge the behaviour of followers of a religion, and not just written teachings. And recent research has shown that religious people are less moral and more homicidal. But most of this research was conducted in the west.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Carl Sagan says the Hindu view: Creation, Preservation, Destruction, ....repeat
conforms to the modern Scientific View of creation.
I don't believe that Sagan is necessarily right. The universe began in a Big Bang approximately 14 billion years ago. It has not yet been determined how the universe will end. It is an open question, if the universe is cyclical.
The concept of gods, also contradicts science.
Post by fanabba
If adherents of Hinduism do not follow the precepts of the religion, it is not the fault of the religion.
What about the treatment of untouchables in Hinduism? Is it moral?
What about Narabali, a form of human sacrifice using torture? Is it moral?
Post by fanabba
But if the religion teaches immorality (jihad against Kafirs, in Islam) it is the fault of the religion.
Yes, Islam is at fault for their immoral teachings.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
The last big bang occurred 14 billion years ago,according to you(how do you know it was the first big bang ?) Sagan agrees with Hinduism that there have been countless big bangs and big crunches, and there will continue to be countless more.
The scientific consensus is that the universe began with a Big Bang approximately 13.8 billion years ago. Although some scientists have proposed a cyclic universe, it is not generally accepted.
The scientists are ignorant and dishonest. Experiments indicate that the
universe is as big as our telescopes can show, and thus the universe is
infinite.
Nothing is infinite. The universe is finite in age and size. Infinity is a mathematical concept which has no application in reality.
Infinity is an infinitely practical aspect of reality. It is the inverse of zero. When something is there beyond the range of measurement, we find the
presence of infinity.
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I am not a scientist, but I know this much.
You don't know; you merely follow some dogma.
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When scientists are corrupt, they cannot be taken seriously. In any case
scientific theories have to do with technology, nothing to do with human
relations and emotions.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What a beautiful answer!
God bless you
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
Writer & Investor
Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are faith-based, and do not lead to enlightenment -- but Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism are knowledge-based, and do lead to a more enlightened person.
Hinduism and Buddhism are not "believe this, or else _" religions, like the
Abrahamic religions.
What a beautiful answer!
God bless you
Dhanyavaad for the compliment, Satyavrat Jee !
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
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Clearly you are ignorant of real religion
Science is different in its scope. Religion is different. Between the two, religion is more important

It is really ignorant to compare the two

Science is *just a method*. Never can come to a final conclusion about anything. Basing ones life entirely on science is impossible and also really ignorant
I am not sure if you can understand this or properly debate.

Real religion always employed scientific methodology and analysis.

Going by your previous statements you are the Pope for Ignorant people
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
Abhinav Lal
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Clearly you are ignorant of real religion
Science is different in its scope. Religion is different. Between the two, religion is more important
It is really ignorant to compare the two
Science is *just a method*. Never can come to a final conclusion about anything. Basing ones life entirely on science is impossible and also really ignorant
I am not sure if you can understand this or properly debate.
Real religion always employed scientific methodology and analysis.
Going by your previous statements you are the Pope for Ignorant people
Much of religious knowledge is intuitive, and not empirically tested, as such unscientific. Science is both a method and a body of knowledge. Scientific theories should be falsifiable, as such we can never be 100% sure of anything.

Aside from science other knowledge include business, law, and the arts. Each of which is more useful than religion.

Science has increased knowledge about the world, and helped develop technologies which give us happier and longer lives. Religion gives you a mostly faulty understanding of the world, based on outdated knowledge.

Again, you rely on uncalled personal insults, which reveal your true moral character, and reflect upon all Hindus. What is true ignorance is demonstrated by followers of religion, when they substitute fiction for fact. People who choose to spend their time studying religion, rather than something relevant like engineering or business, are most ignorant.

According to the Pew Research Centre, Hindus are among the religious groups having least years of formal education.

If you want to study philosophy, you can stuy Hinduism, but with the understanding that it is ancient knowledge, as such mostly outdated. There is a little bit of truth in every religion. But it is best too study recent philosophy.

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Much of religious knowledge is intuitive, and not empirically tested, as such unscientific.
The problem is you dont know the scope of religion or science. You think science can answer every question. It cannot. Scientific methodology (hereinafter referred to as science here for brevity) deals *only with what is observable*
Science cannot deal with what is not observable. Love, justice, morality, poetry, brotherhood even sweetness and many experiences cannot be observed. Many experiences are the result of subject object interactions. The subject plays a very important role here. Science cannot *observe* the subject. So it cannot comment on love, morality, justice, poetry, art etc etc
In fact the subjective realm is what brings meaning and purpose to everything. Objective world is important but is meaningless without the subject
Only true religion expounds on the subject. In fact scientific methodology is applied here i.e., evidence from the outside world is used to outline the limitations of the outside world. For example, everything in all our experiences is limited and is transitory. But the subject remains as the constant unchanging entity. The temporal realm exists only in the backdrop of the permanent realm
Religion expands on the subject of the subject and its great importance

I will stop here. I am not sure why I write to you at all. May be I should not because you already came to the firm conclusion that religious people are stupid and you are great
So you are not here to really discuss but to put people down and inflame us
You think you are a great writer and philosopher and you want to lecture down to us
See your post at the start
Yet you attack us as being inferior immoral people!

I think if you really want to discuss do so but dont defecate your uninformed insulting views here

I saw many times. You are a waste of time
Unless you apologise for your attitude, I dont see any purpose in replying to a know-it-all writer who wants to tell people what to think
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Much of religious knowledge is intuitive, and not empirically tested, as such unscientific.
The problem is you dont know the scope of religion or science. You think science can answer every question. It cannot. Scientific methodology (hereinafter referred to as science here for brevity) deals *only with what is observable*
There is significant overlap between religion and science. For example, both religion and science attempt to explain how the universe and man was created, but while religion offers a fictional explanation, science offers a factual explanation. I don't believe that science can answer every question, but that generally scientific knowledge is superior to religious knowledge.
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Science cannot deal with what is not observable. Love, justice, morality, poetry, brotherhood even sweetness and many experiences cannot be observed. Many experiences are the result of subject object interactions. The subject plays a very important role here. Science cannot *observe* the subject. So it cannot comment on love, morality, justice, poetry, art etc etc
Psychology, which is a science, can comment on subjects of love, morality etc.
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In fact the subjective realm is what brings meaning and purpose to everything. Objective world is important but is meaningless without the subject
Only true religion expounds on the subject. In fact scientific methodology is applied here i.e., evidence from the outside world is used to outline the limitations of the outside world. For example, everything in all our experiences is limited and is transitory. But the subject remains as the constant unchanging entity. The temporal realm exists only in the backdrop of the permanent realm
Philosophy, which can be studied separately from religion, can give good understanding of subjective and intuitive knowledge. There is no need to study outdated religion. Subjects are not necessarily permanent. Ancient religions are not scientific.
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Religion expands on the subject of the subject and its great importance
I will stop here. I am not sure why I write to you at all. May be I should not because you already came to the firm conclusion that religious people are stupid and you are great
So you are not here to really discuss but to put people down and inflame us
You think you are a great writer and philosopher and you want to lecture down to us
See your post at the start
Yet you attack us as being inferior immoral people!
I am just mentioning existing research that shows religious people are less educated. Are you willing to argue the facts? Perhaps facts don't support you. Resorting to personal insults, is immoral, and used by many as a diversionary tactic.
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I think if you really want to discuss do so but dont defecate your uninformed insulting views here
Resorting to offensive language, is discourteous and I would urge you to refrain from making such references.
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I saw many times. You are a waste of time
Unless you apologise for your attitude, I dont see any purpose in replying to a know-it-all writer who wants to tell people what to think
I apologise if I have hurt your feelings, but I shall continue to discuss the truth in an attempt to improve my understanding of the world, and also to improve others understanding of the world.

I have learnt from my discussions in this newsgroup, both from reading replies and formulating replies.

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There is significant overlap between religion and science. For example, both religion and science attempt to explain how the universe and man was created, but while religion offers a fictional explanation, science offers a factual explanation.
True religion is about what cannot be *objectively observed*. Nevertheless it is true. Senses have limitations (prathyaksha), all know.
We cannot see our own face or eyes! Mind and intellect have limitations. Hence inferences are limited -paroksha. But experiences are an interaction between the subject and object. Can the subject can be observed? Not as an object! It is called aparoksha. It is 100 % valid and never any doubt. The only thing of certainty unlike any objective knowledge
Without the subject all experiences are null and void
The subject is the most important factor ignored by most people. Science ( method) ignores this as its method is applicable only to objects!
Now think. What is the meaning of the word I? When you say I, what do you mean? Your body, mind? No because your body, mind have been changing for ever and still there is constancy in I and without that there is no experience. Amidst the changes there is a constant I without which experiences are impossible
This there is a whole realm outside of objects that cannot be studied by the normal scientific method. Rishis knew objective methodology and applied knowledge and analytical methods to grasp the essence of aparoskha and the import of I which is called atma.
Ask yourself who am "I". You know you are. That knowledge is *not based on perception like eyes or inference*. It is self evident, 100 % true and totally independent. Where does that knowledge come from? Find out
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I don't believe that science can answer every question, but that generally scientific knowledge is superior to religious knowledge.
There is no need for belief. Science is limited to observation and experimentation and replication. It is valid but has limitations
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Psychology, which is a science, can comment on subjects of love, morality etc.
Nope. Psychology will deal with the mental and physical effects of love etc. Not love itself? For example, what is love?

What is it that makes us love others, animals and even the environment? Why do beings try to live for ever and perpetuate the species? What is the reason for self preservation? Why not just die and accept mortality? Why is there a need to defy death and why do humans always try for perfection? Why are they never content with anything they achieve or possess? Do you agree humans are relentlessly trying for perfection? Why?
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Philosophy, which can be studied separately from religion, can give good understanding of subjective and intuitive knowledge. There is no need to study outdated religion. Subjects are not necessarily permanent. Ancient religions are not scientific.
Philosophy is what westerners call. In out tradition it is called religion and is highly advanced compared to western philosophy which is an infantile prattle
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Perhaps facts don't support you. Resorting to personal insults, is immoral, and used by many as a diversionary tactic.
You have always insulted us. So we serve our bit
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I apologise if I have hurt your feelings, but I shall continue to discuss the truth in an attempt to improve my understanding of the world, and also to improve others understanding of the world.
I have learnt from my discussions in this newsgroup, both from reading replies and formulating replies.
If this is an apology I accept it
But what matters is how you really discuss and when you stop insulting and when you truly debate
If you insult we will too
Please stop preaching your ideas and issuing fatwas that we should accept what you say

Discussion yes. We are ready. Have always been
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There is significant overlap between religion and science. For example, both religion and science attempt to explain how the universe and man was created, but while religion offers a fictional explanation, science offers a factual explanation.
True religion is about what cannot be *objectively observed*. Nevertheless it is true. Senses have limitations (prathyaksha), all know.
We cannot see our own face or eyes! Mind and intellect have limitations. Hence inferences are limited -paroksha. But experiences are an interaction between the subject and object. Can the subject can be observed? Not as an object! It is called aparoksha. It is 100 % valid and never any doubt. The only thing of certainty unlike any objective knowledge
Without the subject all experiences are null and void
The subject is the most important factor ignored by most people. Science ( method) ignores this as its method is applicable only to objects!
Now think. What is the meaning of the word I? When you say I, what do you mean? Your body, mind? No because your body, mind have been changing for ever and still there is constancy in I and without that there is no experience. Amidst the changes there is a constant I without which experiences are impossible
This there is a whole realm outside of objects that cannot be studied by the normal scientific method. Rishis knew objective methodology and applied knowledge and analytical methods to grasp the essence of aparoskha and the import of I which is called atma.
Ask yourself who am "I". You know you are. That knowledge is *not based on perception like eyes or inference*. It is self evident, 100 % true and totally independent. Where does that knowledge come from? Find out
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I don't believe that science can answer every question, but that generally scientific knowledge is superior to religious knowledge.
There is no need for belief. Science is limited to observation and experimentation and replication. It is valid but has limitations
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Psychology, which is a science, can comment on subjects of love, morality etc.
Nope. Psychology will deal with the mental and physical effects of love etc. Not love itself? For example, what is love?
What is it that makes us love others, animals and even the environment? Why do beings try to live for ever and perpetuate the species? What is the reason for self preservation? Why not just die and accept mortality? Why is there a need to defy death and why do humans always try for perfection? Why are they never content with anything they achieve or possess? Do you agree humans are relentlessly trying for perfection? Why?
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Philosophy, which can be studied separately from religion, can give good understanding of subjective and intuitive knowledge. There is no need to study outdated religion. Subjects are not necessarily permanent. Ancient religions are not scientific.
Philosophy is what westerners call. In out tradition it is called religion and is highly advanced compared to western philosophy which is an infantile prattle
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Perhaps facts don't support you. Resorting to personal insults, is immoral, and used by many as a diversionary tactic.
You have always insulted us. So we serve our bit
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I apologise if I have hurt your feelings, but I shall continue to discuss the truth in an attempt to improve my understanding of the world, and also to improve others understanding of the world.
I have learnt from my discussions in this newsgroup, both from reading replies and formulating replies.
If this is an apology I accept it
But what matters is how you really discuss and when you stop insulting and when you truly debate
If you insult we will too
Please stop preaching your ideas and issuing fatwas that we should accept what you say
Discussion yes. We are ready. Have always been
Dhanyavaad for your valuable insights, Satyavrat Jee !
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Ignorant people are more religious. Research has shown a negative correlation between religiosity and education level. Intelligent people should educate themselves in science and ignore religion.
Knowledge about religion, like knowledge about astrology, means time wasted in learning. An educated person can better spend his time learning other sciences and arts.
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Clearly you are ignorant of real religion
Science is different in its scope. Religion is different. Between the two, religion is more important
It is really ignorant to compare the two
Science is *just a method*. Never can come to a final conclusion about anything. Basing ones life entirely on science is impossible and also really ignorant
I am not sure if you can understand this or properly debate.
Real religion always employed scientific methodology and analysis.
Going by your previous statements you are the Pope for Ignorant people
Dhanyavaad for your post, Satyavrat Jee !
You are correct !
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