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drh8h
2018-08-03 14:35:18 UTC
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I notice the release date of the Brailowsky Chopin set on Sony has been pushed back to September 21. Could be worse though, like that Sony Casals box that keeps getting pushed from year to year. I still think the box phenom is going fade soon. Just too many of them coming too fast. Sony seems to have trouble getting their boxes out on original release date.

DH
Invocation
2018-08-03 14:52:56 UTC
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在 2018年8月3日星期五 UTC-4上午10:35:21,drh8h写道:
Post by drh8h
I notice the release date of the Brailowsky Chopin set on Sony has been pushed back to September 21. Could be worse though, like that Sony Casals box that keeps getting pushed from year to year. I still think the box phenom is going fade soon. Just too many of them coming too fast. Sony seems to have trouble getting their boxes out on original release date.
DH
I wish they could reconsider the project and pack the rest of his RCA recordings as well.
drh8h
2018-08-03 15:30:11 UTC
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在 2018年8月3日星期五 UTC-4上午10:35:21,drh8h写道:
Post by drh8h
I notice the release date of the Brailowsky Chopin set on Sony has been pushed back to September 21. Could be worse though, like that Sony Casals box that keeps getting pushed from year to year. I still think the box phenom is going fade soon. Just too many of them coming too fast. Sony seems to have trouble getting their boxes out on original release date.
DH
I wish they could reconsider the project and pack the rest of his RCA recordings as well.
As we saw in another discussion, these projects take a long time to come together, probably more than one year, maybe two. What would really be infuriating is if they come out with a complete edition three or four years from now.

DH
JohnGavin
2018-08-03 15:39:14 UTC
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Re Sony Boxed Sets - how about an E. Power Biggs box - We will settle for 3 years from now.
Randy Lane
2018-08-03 16:16:14 UTC
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And Ormandy, Leinsdorf, and the Juilliard Quartet
Throw in the non-CSO Reiner somewhere too.
drh8h
2018-08-03 20:33:06 UTC
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Post by Randy Lane
And Ormandy, Leinsdorf, and the Juilliard Quartet
Throw in the non-CSO Reiner somewhere too.
I hear you all. How about Szigeti and Firkusny from Sony? The latter's recordings for them are almost forgotten. Maybe Piatigorsky without Heifetz. New Music Quartet. Spivakovsky. Gold and Fizdale or Vronsky and Babin. Complete mono Budapest. How about Schneider outside the Budapest? The song recordings of Farrell? If we can have Tourel's over-the-hill outing with Bernstein simply because he is there, why not a little lesser-known Farrell in her prime? They have never put her Medea on CD for criminy's sake! I think we are all dreaming.

As I have said before, Biggs and Ormandy simply too big. If Sony couldn't give us Bernstein complete for his 100th, how can we expect much on someone like Biggs. Organ doesn't sell and except for oldsters Biggs is forgotten. I bet Universal sold a ton of the Dupre Mercury boxes. Virgil Fox--I wouldn't be surprised. Bizarre and human train-wrecks (Levant, some extent Jonas) will win out over dull and sane.

DH
JohnGavin
2018-08-07 16:31:21 UTC
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As I have said before, Biggs and Ormandy simply too big. If Sony couldn't give us Bernstein complete for his 100th, how can we expect much on someone like Biggs. Organ doesn't sell and except for oldsters Biggs is forgotten. I bet Universal sold a ton of the Dupre Mercury boxes. Virgil Fox--I wouldn't be surprised. Bizarre and human train-wrecks (Levant, some extent Jonas) will win out over dull and sane.

DH

I’ve been thinking about this, and looking through Amazon at recently re-issued boxes. RCA has released an Ania Dorfman Box and an André Tchaikovsky Box. I say if they merit a Box, so does E. Power Biggs!

Also Sony should consider an Anthony Newman box, which would include his outrageously irreverent and fascinating Goldbergs, and a great WTC Book 2.
h***@gmail.com
2018-08-07 16:43:43 UTC
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On Tuesday, August 7, 2018 at 12:31:24 PM UTC-4, JohnGavin wrote:
I’ve been thinking about this, and looking through Amazon at recently re-issued boxes. RCA has released an Ania Dorfman Box and an André Tchaikovsky Box. I say if they merit a Box, so does E. Power Biggs!
Post by JohnGavin
Also Sony should consider an Anthony Newman box, which would include his outrageously irreverent and fascinating Goldbergs, and a great WTC Book 2.
Agreed on the Biggs box. A Peter Serkin box would be nice also.

Hank
drh8h
2018-08-07 21:01:51 UTC
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Post by JohnGavin
I’ve been thinking about this, and looking through Amazon at recently re-issued boxes. RCA has released an Ania Dorfman Box and an André Tchaikovsky Box. I say if they merit a Box, so does E. Power Biggs!
Post by JohnGavin
Also Sony should consider an Anthony Newman box, which would include his outrageously irreverent and fascinating Goldbergs, and a great WTC Book 2.
Agreed on the Biggs box. A Peter Serkin box would be nice also.
Hank
A Biggs box, even if the stereos only, would be very large. I just don't think organ sells.

DH
Bozo
2018-08-07 18:20:36 UTC
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Post by drh8h
I hear you all.
And pianists Noel Lee and Beveridge Webster. whoever owns those now.
Frank Berger
2018-08-07 18:39:56 UTC
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Post by Bozo
Post by drh8h
I hear you all.
And pianists Noel Lee and Beveridge Webster. whoever owns those now.
Practically no Webster on CD. Long-defunct pirate "Disco Archivia" had
transfered a radio broadcast in which Webster plays Beethoven PC#2 and
Weber's Grand Duo.
vhorowitz
2018-08-07 21:08:53 UTC
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I have talked to Michael Webster, Beveridge Webster’s son, and as far as HE knows, the tapes are missing in action.
Bozo
2018-08-07 21:32:36 UTC
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I have talked to Michael Webster, Beveridge Webster’s son, and as far as HE knows, the tapes are missing >in action.
Thanks. How terrible.
Frank Berger
2018-08-07 22:07:11 UTC
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Post by vhorowitz
I have talked to Michael Webster, Beveridge Webster’s son, and as far as HE knows, the tapes are missing in action.
There are lots of Beveridge Webster LPs on ebay.
Bozo
2018-08-07 22:31:58 UTC
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And a Constance Keene box would be nice.

But then, so would be a Liszt box ;his " box " of 1886 wont do.
drh8h
2018-08-08 01:29:21 UTC
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Post by Bozo
And a Constance Keene box would be nice.
But then, so would be a Liszt box ;his " box " of 1886 wont do.
If there were a Liszt box, it could have as bonus that cylinder of Wagner conducting Tristan at Bayreuth. Of course, Tristan was not given at Bayreuth in Wagner's time. Maybe the recording instead was of Richard barking like a dog. I have read he used to greet people that way!

DH
h***@gmail.com
2018-08-03 16:16:11 UTC
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I wish they could reconsider the project and pack the rest of his RCA recordings as well.
I wish Sony would just bite the bullet and issue Brailowsky's complete Columbia and RCA in one box. Iirc, the Columbia stereo recordings have all been issued in Japan.

Hank
Rosin
2019-04-25 09:25:31 UTC
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For Brailowsky fans, Danacord will reissue his Berlin recordings (1928-1934) with new transfer.

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8014013--alexander-brailowsky-the-berlin-recordings-1928-1934#tracklist
Rosin
2019-04-25 09:57:14 UTC
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Post by Rosin
For Brailowsky fans, Danacord will reissue his Berlin recordings (1928-1934) with new transfer.
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8014013--alexander-brailowsky-the-berlin-recordings-1928-1934#tracklist
UPDATE: According to HMV Japan, this release will be in CD-R format.
https://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Piano-Collection_000000000017977/item_Brailowsky-The-Berlin-Recordings-1928-1934_9764309
HT
2019-04-25 11:24:41 UTC
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Post by Rosin
For Brailowsky fans, Danacord will reissue his Berlin recordings (1928-1934) with new transfer.
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8014013--alexander-brailowsky-the-berlin-recordings-1928-1934#tracklist
The old version doesn't sound bad at all. I wonder how much better this new transfer sounds - in other words: should I buy the reissue (as a Brailowsky fan).

Henk
drh8h
2019-04-25 12:41:27 UTC
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Post by HT
Post by Rosin
For Brailowsky fans, Danacord will reissue his Berlin recordings (1928-1934) with new transfer.
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8014013--alexander-brailowsky-the-berlin-recordings-1928-1934#tracklist
The old version doesn't sound bad at all. I wonder how much better this new transfer sounds - in other words: should I buy the reissue (as a Brailowsky fan).
Henk
Mark Obert-Thorn recently remastered these recordings (4 cds worth) for Pristine.

Dennis
Rosin
2019-04-25 15:13:20 UTC
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Post by HT
Post by Rosin
For Brailowsky fans, Danacord will reissue his Berlin recordings (1928-1934) with new transfer.
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8014013--alexander-brailowsky-the-berlin-recordings-1928-1934#tracklist
The old version doesn't sound bad at all. I wonder how much better this new transfer sounds - in other words: should I buy the reissue (as a Brailowsky fan).
Henk
Presto offers 30-second audition for every track. You could try and make a decision.
As for me, I will buy it without doubt since I don't have the old version which has been OOP for many years.
HT
2019-04-26 09:26:06 UTC
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Post by Rosin
Presto offers 30-second audition for every track. You could try and make a decision.
As for me, I will buy it without doubt since I don't have the old version which has been OOP for many years.
Thank you! The sound is much better. You can now hear how varied Brailowsky's tone was originally. I can highly recommend the set. I'm a little tired of Chopin and am waiting for the Liszt and encores set.

Henk
Mark Obert-Thorn
2019-05-23 13:11:30 UTC
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Post by Rosin
Post by HT
Post by Rosin
For Brailowsky fans, Danacord will reissue his Berlin recordings (1928-1934) with new transfer.
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8014013--alexander-brailowsky-the-berlin-recordings-1928-1934#tracklist
The old version doesn't sound bad at all. I wonder how much better this new transfer sounds - in other words: should I buy the reissue (as a Brailowsky fan).
Henk
Presto offers 30-second audition for every track. You could try and make a decision.
As for me, I will buy it without doubt since I don't have the old version which has been OOP for many years.
The first review that compares the new Danacord and Pristine releases has just been posted:

http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2019/May/Brailowsky_Polydor_v12_PAKM078.htm

Mark O-T
Bozo
2019-04-26 01:43:06 UTC
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Post by Rosin
For Brailowsky fans, Danacord will reissue his Berlin recordings (1928-1934) with new transfer.
Thanks for this. I had been " turned off " by his 60's (? ) recording on Columbia lp of the Choopin Waltzes and on RCA of the Rach 2, but these earlier do sound interesting here :

( Chopin,Op.10,Nos.2 ,5,Ploydor 78 )

(Chopin,Ballade No.1, earlier Danacord )
Bozo
2019-05-23 21:04:45 UTC
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How does his pianism compare in the Berlin 1928-34 recordings to his pianism in the APR 1938 London recordings ? TIA.
Mark Obert-Thorn
2019-05-24 14:24:42 UTC
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Post by Bozo
How does his pianism compare in the Berlin 1928-34 recordings to his pianism in the APR 1938 London recordings ? TIA.
The general consensus is that he was more consistently good in the 1938 HMVs than he was before or after. However, they were done over a period of two days (23-24 November 1938) that happened to catch him in fine form, as opposed to the years-long span of his Polydors and Victors, so one might expect a bit more variation in quality of playing in the latter. In addition, most of the repertoire of the HMVs doesn't overlap the Polydors, so it's comparing apples and oranges to some degree. Some of the Polydors are considered to be quite good, especially the Wagner-Liszt "Tannhauser" Overture and the Scarlatti-Tausig Pastorale-Capriccio.

Mark O-T
Bozo
2019-05-24 15:34:20 UTC
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Post by Mark Obert-Thorn
The general consensus is that he was more consistently good in the 1938 HMVs than he was before or after.
Many,many thanks.
drh8h
2019-05-25 03:21:19 UTC
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Post by Mark Obert-Thorn
Post by Bozo
How does his pianism compare in the Berlin 1928-34 recordings to his pianism in the APR 1938 London recordings ? TIA.
The general consensus is that he was more consistently good in the 1938 HMVs than he was before or after. However, they were done over a period of two days (23-24 November 1938) that happened to catch him in fine form, as opposed to the years-long span of his Polydors and Victors, so one might expect a bit more variation in quality of playing in the latter. In addition, most of the repertoire of the HMVs doesn't overlap the Polydors, so it's comparing apples and oranges to some degree. Some of the Polydors are considered to be quite good, especially the Wagner-Liszt "Tannhauser" Overture and the Scarlatti-Tausig Pastorale-Capriccio.
Mark O-T
I purchased your transfers. Excellent work! I don't need Danacord's.

DH

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