French " déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.

[Hen Hanna]

In a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.
The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.
Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/
I say: For brevity, my comments are limited to the use of the word. Notwithstanding the possible legal implication that the unbalanced might be not guilty by reason of insanity, ’déséquilibrés' is not used only if one who commits violence is Muslim.
Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDb
Short · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

But it is true that the word " déséquilibrés "
is noticeably common in articles
for such circumstances, right?

Maybe the word [déséquilibrés] is closer
to Am.Eng disturbed ?


I'm wondering if we have anything like this in English.
-- how about the word "deranged"
as in [deranged gunman] ?

HH

[Arnaud Fournet]

Post by Hen Hanna

In a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.
The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.
Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/
I say: For brevity, my comments are limited to the use of the word. Notwithstanding the possible legal implication that the unbalanced might be not guilty by reason of insanity, ’déséquilibrés' is not used only if one who commits violence is Muslim.
Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDb
Short · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

But it is true that the word " déséquilibrés "
is noticeably common in articles
for such circumstances, right?

It's merdias newspeak to avoid calling a muslim terrorist a muslim terrorist.
Another piece of merdias newspeak is "camion fou" => "insane truck"
Have you ever seen an "insane truck" in the real world?
A.

[Dingbat]

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Hen Hanna

In a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.
The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.
Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/
I say: For brevity, my comments are limited to the use of the word. Notwithstanding the possible legal implication that the unbalanced might be not guilty by reason of insanity, ’déséquilibrés' is not used only if one who commits violence is Muslim.
Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDb
Short · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

But it is true that the word " déséquilibrés "
is noticeably common in articles
for such circumstances, right?

It's merdias newspeak to avoid calling a muslim terrorist a muslim terrorist.

Well, did the news media call IRA terrorists Catholic terrorists?

At the funeral of Joe Fenton killed by the IRA for spying for the British:
The local priest, Father Tom Toner, condemned the IRA and said: “To you the IRA and all who support you or defend you, we have to say that we feel dirty today. Foul and dirty deeds by Irishmen are making Ireland a foul and dirty place, for it is things done by Irishmen that make us unclean. What the British could never do, what the Unionists could never do, you have done. You have made us bow our heads in shame and that is a dirty feeling.”
http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/british-spy-ira-stakeknife-linked-10199590

Post by Arnaud Fournet
Another piece of merdias newspeak is "camion fou" => "insane truck"
Have you ever seen an "insane truck" in the real world?
A.

Crazy truck drivers camion fou !!

[Arnaud Fournet]

Post by Dingbat

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Hen Hanna

In a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.
The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.
Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/
I say: For brevity, my comments are limited to the use of the word. Notwithstanding the possible legal implication that the unbalanced might be not guilty by reason of insanity, ’déséquilibrés' is not used only if one who commits violence is Muslim.
Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDb
Short · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

But it is true that the word " déséquilibrés "
is noticeably common in articles
for such circumstances, right?

It's merdias newspeak to avoid calling a muslim terrorist a muslim terrorist.

Well, did the news media call IRA terrorists Catholic terrorists?

Mass Merdias would never talk of Protestant or American terrorists, or would they?
So a Catholic terrorist is ok, a Protestant terrorist, a Muslim, terrorist or an American terrorist is not ok.
A.

Post by Dingbat
The local priest, Father Tom Toner, condemned the IRA and said: “To you the IRA and all who support you or defend you, we have to say that we feel dirty today. Foul and dirty deeds by Irishmen are making Ireland a foul and dirty place, for it is things done by Irishmen that make us unclean. What the British could never do, what the Unionists could never do, you have done. You have made us bow our heads in shame and that is a dirty feeling.”
http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/british-spy-ira-stakeknife-linked-10199590

Post by Arnaud Fournet
Another piece of merdias newspeak is "camion fou" => "insane truck"
Have you ever seen an "insane truck" in the real world?
A.

Crazy truck drivers camion fou !!
http://youtu.be/e8ncfxmhP2s

The point is that a "camion fou" does not have a driver,
so there's nobody, least of all a Muslim terrorist involved in the murders.
A.

[Hen Hanna]

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Dingbat

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Hen Hanna

In a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.
The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.
Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/
I say: For brevity, my comments are limited to the use of the word. Notwithstanding the possible legal implication that the unbalanced might be not guilty by reason of insanity, ’déséquilibrés' is not used only if one who commits violence is Muslim.
Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDb
Short · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

But it is true that the word " déséquilibrés "
is noticeably common in articles
for such circumstances, right?

It's merdias newspeak to avoid calling a muslim terrorist a muslim terrorist.

Well, did the news media call IRA terrorists Catholic terrorists?

Mass Merdias would never talk of Protestant or American terrorists, or would they?
So a Catholic terrorist is ok, a Protestant terrorist, a Muslim, terrorist or an American terrorist is not ok.
A.
Another piece of merdias newspeak is "camion fou" => "insane truck"
Have you ever seen an "insane truck" in the real world?
A.

In American context, perh. this is related to
Guns killed..., Handguns killed.... Cocaine killed....


[this is like a joke] What are "American terrorists" usually called ?


Are there some noticeable oddities in the reporting
of the Chinese demonstrations in Paris
by the [Mass Merdia] ?

I don't think we had a word for [Mass Merdia] in Am.Eng.
until just recently -- [fake news], etc.

HH




In the early weeks of his presidency, U.S. President Donald Trump frequently used the term "fake news" to refer to traditional news media, singling out CNN.[66] Linguist George Lakoff says this creates confusion about the phrase's meaning.[67] According to CBS 60 Minutes, President Trump may use the term fake news to describe any news, however legitimate or responsible, with which he may disagree.[50] President Trump also used social media site Twitter to express that “there is popular support for his executive order temporarily prohibiting the entry of all refugees as well as travellers from seven majority-Muslim nations”, and any surveys which appear to show significantly higher number of people opposing the ban “are fake news, just like the CNN, ABC, NBC polls in the election.” [68]

fake news, just like the CNN, ABC, NBC polls in the election.” [68]

[Arnaud Fournet]

Post by Hen Hanna

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Dingbat

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Hen Hanna

In a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.
The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.
Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/
I say: For brevity, my comments are limited to the use of the word. Notwithstanding the possible legal implication that the unbalanced might be not guilty by reason of insanity, ’déséquilibrés' is not used only if one who commits violence is Muslim.
Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDb
Short · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

But it is true that the word " déséquilibrés "
is noticeably common in articles
for such circumstances, right?

It's merdias newspeak to avoid calling a muslim terrorist a muslim terrorist.

Well, did the news media call IRA terrorists Catholic terrorists?

Mass Merdias would never talk of Protestant or American terrorists, or would they?
So a Catholic terrorist is ok, a Protestant terrorist, a Muslim, terrorist or an American terrorist is not ok.
A.
Another piece of merdias newspeak is "camion fou" => "insane truck"
Have you ever seen an "insane truck" in the real world?
A.

In American context, perh. this is related to
Guns killed..., Handguns killed.... Cocaine killed....
[this is like a joke] What are "American terrorists" usually called ?

I'd suggest Nato.
John McCain is a good candidate for American Terrorism Trophy.
A.

Post by Hen Hanna
Are there some noticeable oddities in the reporting
of the Chinese demonstrations in Paris
by the [Mass Merdia] ?
I don't think we had a word for [Mass Merdia] in Am.Eng.
until just recently -- [fake news], etc.

Just keep Mass Merdia, it's ok and descriptive.
fake news is another issue, tho not unrelated.

Mass Merdia describes the whole bundle of shit and propaganda crap that the official me(r)dia keep selling down people's throats.

Merdiapute is another word = Me(r)dia-whore. I guess Merdiapresstitute could be a good translation for Merdiapute.

There's now a saying about journalists: either a Merdia-whore or unemployed.
That's what Merdias are about.
A.

[Dingbat]

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Hen Hanna

In a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.
The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.
Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/
I say: For brevity, my comments are limited to the use of the word. Notwithstanding the possible legal implication that the unbalanced might be not guilty by reason of insanity, ’déséquilibrés' is not used only if one who commits violence is Muslim.
Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDb
Short · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

But it is true that the word " déséquilibrés "
is noticeably common in articles
for such circumstances, right?

It's merdias newspeak to avoid calling a muslim terrorist a muslim terrorist.
Another piece of merdias newspeak is "camion fou" => "insane truck"
Have you ever seen an "insane truck" in the real world?
A.

Can there be innocuous possibilities? Such as ... The news media didn't want to grant guilty parties what they apparently wanted. IOW, the perpetrator possibly desired the status of being a spokesperson for Islam which status the news media are loath to grant him, and quoting him might be what is desired by parties like ISIS which take credit for such deeds and thereby might play into their hands. Now, ...

1) Suppose the news media had reported that Baruch Goldstein was unbalanced, after his massacre of 29 Arabs at the Cave of Machpelah. What would have been the Arabs' reaction?

2) Do readers really believe that news media evaluate people's mental condition? If not, do any readers get misled by news media making claims of mental incompetence? The latest:
British Student Killed in Jerusalem Stabbing Attack; Assailant Mentally Unstable
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.783493

[Arnaud Fournet]

Post by Dingbat

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Hen Hanna

In a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.
The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.
Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/
I say: For brevity, my comments are limited to the use of the word. Notwithstanding the possible legal implication that the unbalanced might be not guilty by reason of insanity, ’déséquilibrés' is not used only if one who commits violence is Muslim.
Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDb
Short · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

But it is true that the word " déséquilibrés "
is noticeably common in articles
for such circumstances, right?

It's merdias newspeak to avoid calling a muslim terrorist a muslim terrorist.
Another piece of merdias newspeak is "camion fou" => "insane truck"
Have you ever seen an "insane truck" in the real world?
A.

Can there be innocuous possibilities? Such as ... The news media didn't want to grant guilty parties what they apparently wanted. IOW, the perpetrator possibly desired the status of being a spokesperson for Islam which status the news media are loath to grant him, and quoting him might be what is desired by parties like ISIS which take credit for such deeds and thereby might play into their hands. Now, ...

There's no point in denying that Islam, especially Sunnite Islam is aggressive and murderous.
Sunnite muslims who are not aggressive and murderous have to be put in front of their responsibilities in supporting murder and jihad of other muslims.
A.

Post by Dingbat
1) Suppose the news media had reported that Baruch Goldstein was unbalanced, after his massacre of 29 Arabs at the Cave of Machpelah. What would have been the Arabs' reaction?

I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.
Anyway, we know that Israelis want to genocide Palestinians.
Do you think the Nazis during WW2 or the Turks during WW1 were "unbalanced"?
A.

Post by Dingbat
British Student Killed in Jerusalem Stabbing Attack; Assailant Mentally Unstable
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.783493

I think most people are increasingly moving away from official merdias.
Anyway, the desire to psychologize political issues is a symptom how totalitarian the merdias are.
A.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

Post by Arnaud Fournet
Do you think the Nazis during WW2 or the Turks during WW1 were "unbalanced"?

Yes. Sane people do not order such things.

I've been trying to ignore these paranoid bigoted rants but misstatements of
fact must be challenged.

[Yusuf B Gursey]

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

Well there are some Palestinians that are Armenian
and some among Muslim Palestinians that are Circassian.

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
Do you think the Nazis during WW2 or the Turks during WW1 were "unbalanced"?

Yes. Sane people do not order such things.
I've been trying to ignore these paranoid bigoted rants but misstatements of
fact must be challenged.

[Arnaud Fournet]

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs and not Palestinians.
Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't exist.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs and not Palestinians.
Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't exist.

You're amazingly ignorant. Who was it that negotiated with Israel at Camp David
and in Oslo? Who governs the West Bank?

[Arnaud Fournet]

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs and not Palestinians.
Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't exist.

You're amazingly ignorant. Who was it that negotiated with Israel at Camp David
and in Oslo? Who governs the West Bank?

The West Bank is just a shredded occupied territory.
Just try to go there, and you'll know who "governs" [I mean= destroys] the West Bank.
The PoV of the Zionists is that Palestinians are "Arabs" and do not exist.
A.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs and not Palestinians.
Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't exist.

You're amazingly ignorant. Who was it that negotiated with Israel at Camp David
and in Oslo? Who governs the West Bank?

The West Bank is just a shredded occupied territory.
Just try to go there, and you'll know who "governs" [I mean= destroys] the West Bank.
The PoV of the Zionists is that Palestinians are "Arabs" and do not exist.

Your ignorance and bigotry know no bounds.

The ethnonym "Palestinian" was invented about a century ago to designate the
Arabs who lived in the territory called Palestine.

Roman Catholics were told to stop hating Jews more than half a century ago, so
it looks like you're a heretic, too.

[Yusuf B Gursey]

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs and not Palestinians.
Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't exist.

You're amazingly ignorant. Who was it that negotiated with Israel at Camp David
and in Oslo? Who governs the West Bank?

The West Bank is just a shredded occupied territory.
Just try to go there, and you'll know who "governs" [I mean= destroys] the West Bank.
The PoV of the Zionists is that Palestinians are "Arabs" and do not exist.

Your ignorance and bigotry know no bounds.
The ethnonym "Palestinian" was invented about a century ago to designate the
Arabs who lived in the territory called Palestine.

filasTi:n "Palestine" was a well known geographical long before that,
and there are attestations to that as well as filasTi:niyy "Palestinian"
used to designate people who cam from there, as there were Iraqis and
Egyptians.

Post by Peter T. Daniels
Roman Catholics were told to stop hating Jews more than half a century ago, so
it looks like you're a heretic, too.

While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Post by Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs and not Palestinians.
Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't exist.

You're amazingly ignorant. Who was it that negotiated with Israel at Camp David
and in Oslo? Who governs the West Bank?

The West Bank is just a shredded occupied territory.
Just try to go there, and you'll know who "governs" [I mean= destroys] the West Bank.
The PoV of the Zionists is that Palestinians are "Arabs" and do not exist.

Your ignorance and bigotry know no bounds.
The ethnonym "Palestinian" was invented about a century ago to designate the
Arabs who lived in the territory called Palestine.

filasTi:n "Palestine" was a well known geographical long before that,

"The territory called Palestine."

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
and there are attestations to that as well as filasTi:niyy "Palestinian"
used to designate people who cam from there, as there were Iraqis and
Egyptians.

There are "Philistines" in the Bible. The name is very old.

Post by Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Peter T. Daniels
Roman Catholics were told to stop hating Jews more than half a century ago, so
it looks like you're a heretic, too.

While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

Maybe you've only seen his recent postings.

[Yusuf B Gursey]

Peter T. Daniels on 4/17/2017 in

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs
and not Palestinians. Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't
exist.

You're amazingly ignorant. Who was it that negotiated with Israel at Camp
David and in Oslo? Who governs the West Bank?

The West Bank is just a shredded occupied territory.
Just try to go there, and you'll know who "governs" [I mean= destroys] the
West Bank. The PoV of the Zionists is that Palestinians are "Arabs" and
do not exist.

Your ignorance and bigotry know no bounds.
The ethnonym "Palestinian" was invented about a century ago to designate
the Arabs who lived in the territory called Palestine.

filasTi:n "Palestine" was a well known geographical long before that,

"The territory called Palestine."

Yes. You don't have to have political entity.

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
and there are attestations to that as well as filasTi:niyy "Palestinian"
used to designate people who cam from there, as there were Iraqis and
Egyptians.

There are "Philistines" in the Bible. The name is very old.

Yes.

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Peter T. Daniels
Roman Catholics were told to stop hating Jews more than half a century ago,
so it looks like you're a heretic, too.

While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

Maybe you've only seen his recent postings.

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

Post by Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs
and not Palestinians.
Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't exist.> > > You're
amazingly ignorant. Who was it that negotiated with Israel at Camp
David> > > and in Oslo? Who governs the West Bank?

The West Bank is just a shredded occupied territory.
Just try to go there, and you'll know who "governs" [I mean= destroys]
the West Bank.> > The PoV of the Zionists is that Palestinians are
"Arabs" and do not exist.

Your ignorance and bigotry know no bounds.>> The ethnonym "Palestinian"
was invented about a century ago to designate the> Arabs who lived in
the territory called Palestine.

filasTi:n "Palestine" was a well known geographical long before that,
and there are attestations to that as well as filasTi:niyy "Palestinian"
used to designate people who cam from there, as there were Iraqis and
Egyptians.

Roman Catholics were told to stop hating Jews more than half a century
ago, so> it looks like you're a heretic, too.

While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

Anyone who has taken the road from the Dead Sea to Jerusalem and passed
the monstrosity called Ma'ale Adumim could hardly disagree.

[Arnaud Fournet]

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

yes, a very clear distinction is to be made between Jews and Zionism.
It's a fallacy to confuse the two notions.
A.

[Ruud Harmsen]

Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT): Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
filasTi:n "Palestine" was a well known geographical long before that,
and there are attestations to that as well as filasTi:niyy "Palestinian"
used to designate people who cam from there, as there were Iraqis and
Egyptians.=20

Isn't it etymologically simply the name of the biblical Filistines?
Although they were not a semitic people at all. Probably Cretans, but
that is uncertain.

[Yusuf B Gursey]

Ruud Harmsen on 4/18/2017 in

Post by Ruud Harmsen
Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT): Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
filasTi:n "Palestine" was a well known geographical long before that,
and there are attestations to that as well as filasTi:niyy "Palestinian"
used to designate people who cam from there, as there were Iraqis and
Egyptians.=20

Isn't it etymologically simply the name of the biblical Filistines?

Yes. Philistines with aspirated ph is (probably) more accurate.

Post by Ruud Harmsen
Although they were not a semitic people at all. Probably Cretans, but
that is uncertain.

I am talking about the Muslim period, particularly the Ottoman.

[Franz Gnaedinger]

Post by Ruud Harmsen
Isn't it etymologically simply the name of the biblical Filistines?
Although they were not a semitic people at all. Probably Cretans, but
that is uncertain.
--

The Egyptian Peleset Biblical Plesheth were Sea Peoples, the root of Plesheth
being palah, a word in the migratory sense. Magdalenian offers POL LAS TON,
fortified settlement POl mountain LAS to make oneself heard TON. The Sea
Peoples would have built fortified settlements on hills that were often
called mountains, and made themselves heard as the loudmouth Goliath.
POL LAS named Pallas Athene, a city founder. She also helped found Troy.
Another derivative of POL LAS is palace, German Palast. Minoans and other
islanders settled in Judah, which was renamed by Herodotus and Herodes
(if memory serves) and is now known as Palestine.

[Franz Gnaedinger]

Post by Franz Gnaedinger
The Egyptian Peleset Biblical Plesheth were Sea Peoples, the root of Plesheth
being palah, a word in the migratory sense. Magdalenian offers POL LAS TON,
fortified settlement POl mountain LAS to make oneself heard TON. The Sea
Peoples would have built fortified settlements on hills that were often
called mountains, and made themselves heard as the loudmouth Goliath.
POL LAS named Pallas Athene, a city founder. She also helped found Troy.
Another derivative of POL LAS is palace, German Palast. Minoans and other
islanders settled in Judah, which was renamed by Herodotus and Herodes
(if memory serves) and is now known as Palestine.

Hypothetical POL LAS TON would also have named the Roman Palatine Hill
on which Romulus ploughed the pomerium, sacred enclosure of Roma Quadrata,
core of ancient Rome, according to the Old Roman tradition on April 21,
753 BC - tomorrow 2,770 years ago. The Roma Quadrata would then have been
a fortified settlement POL on a hill or 'mountain' LAS that made itself
heard TON = ruled the surrounding region. Palestine was a suiting name
for Judah, considering fortified settlements like Lakhesh and Jerusalem,
on hills, ruling the surrounding regions. Maybe the Sea Peoples claimed
places on the shore of the Levant in the same spirit. Anyway, the history
of the Mediterranean in the wake of the Trojan war, at the end of the Bronze
Age and beginning of the Iron Age, was most complicated. Israel is located
in the eye of a historical tornado, as it were.

[Ruud Harmsen]

Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT): Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

A lot of anti-semites nowadays hide their vehement anti-semitism by
presenting it as alleged anti-zionism.

[Yusuf B Gursey]

Post by Ruud Harmsen
Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT): Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

A lot of anti-semites nowadays hide their vehement anti-semitism by
presenting it as alleged anti-zionism.

I did not find any anti-semiticism in his last posts and most
anti-zionists are just that, and there are a significant number
of Jews among them.

Post by Ruud Harmsen
--
Ruud Harmsen, http://rudhar.com

[Arnaud Fournet]

Post by Ruud Harmsen
Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT): Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

A lot of anti-semites nowadays hide their vehement anti-semitism by
presenting it as alleged anti-zionism.

My house is 20m away from a synagog, and I have no problem listening them recite their prayers and songs every week. I consider they pray the same God as mine. And this situation has been so for 21 years.
They have a marble plate on the outside wall that lists all dead Jews from my hometown in previous wars. I can see it from my bedroom.
And I have no problem with singing and putting flowers on their tombs, when we commemorate so-called "victories" in previous World Wars.

My opinion is that the confusion between Judaism and Zionism puts French Jews in great danger of being considered accomplices of all the crimes (war crimes, crimes against humanity and human rights, phosphorous bombs and all the rest) of the Zionist state in Palestine.
A.

[Mikal 606]

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Ruud Harmsen
Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT): Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

A lot of anti-semites nowadays hide their vehement anti-semitism by
presenting it as alleged anti-zionism.

My house is 20m away from a synagog, and I have no problem listening them recite their prayers and songs every week. I consider they pray the same God as mine. And this situation has been so for 21 years.
They have a marble plate on the outside wall that lists all dead Jews from my hometown in previous wars. I can see it from my bedroom.
And I have no problem with singing and putting flowers on their tombs, when we commemorate so-called "victories" in previous World Wars.
My opinion is that the confusion between Judaism and Zionism puts French Jews in great danger of being considered accomplices of all the crimes (war crimes, crimes against humanity and human rights, phosphorous bombs and all the rest) of the Zionist state in Palestine.
A.

From what ass did you pull "all the crimes of the Zionist state in Palestine"?
I guess some of your best friends are Jewish as well?
Don't respond and don't expect a response even if you do feel the need to out your juvenile politics.

[Arnaud Fournet]

Post by Mikal 606

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Ruud Harmsen
Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT): Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

A lot of anti-semites nowadays hide their vehement anti-semitism by
presenting it as alleged anti-zionism.

My house is 20m away from a synagog, and I have no problem listening them recite their prayers and songs every week. I consider they pray the same God as mine. And this situation has been so for 21 years.
They have a marble plate on the outside wall that lists all dead Jews from my hometown in previous wars. I can see it from my bedroom.
And I have no problem with singing and putting flowers on their tombs, when we commemorate so-called "victories" in previous World Wars.
My opinion is that the confusion between Judaism and Zionism puts French Jews in great danger of being considered accomplices of all the crimes (war crimes, crimes against humanity and human rights, phosphorous bombs and all the rest) of the Zionist state in Palestine.
A.

From what ass did you pull "all the crimes of the Zionist state in Palestine"?

Just get a little bit informed, and you'll know.
A.

[Dingbat]

Post by Mikal 606

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Ruud Harmsen
Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT): Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

A lot of anti-semites nowadays hide their vehement anti-semitism by
presenting it as alleged anti-zionism.

My house is 20m away from a synagog, and I have no problem listening them recite their prayers and songs every week. I consider they pray the same God as mine. And this situation has been so for 21 years.
They have a marble plate on the outside wall that lists all dead Jews from my hometown in previous wars. I can see it from my bedroom.
And I have no problem with singing and putting flowers on their tombs, when we commemorate so-called "victories" in previous World Wars.
My opinion is that the confusion between Judaism and Zionism puts French Jews in great danger of being considered accomplices of all the crimes (war crimes, crimes against humanity and human rights, phosphorous bombs and all the rest) of the Zionist state in Palestine.
A.

From what ass did you pull "all the crimes of the Zionist state in Palestine"?
I guess some of your best friends are Jewish as well?
Don't respond and don't expect a response even if you do feel the need to out your juvenile politics.

As long as there are anti-Zionist Jews, especially prominent ones, it's awkward to portray anti-zionism as anti-semitism. Unless a Jew can be an anti-semite, that is. Try this:

The Inverted Ideological Pyramids of Anti-Zionist Jews: The Case of Moshe Zuckermann
https://besacenter.org/perspectives-papers/inverted-ideological-pyramids-anti-zionist-jews-case-moshe-zuckermann/

[Dingbat]

Post by Ruud Harmsen
Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT): Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

A lot of anti-semites nowadays hide their vehement anti-semitism by
presenting it as alleged anti-zionism.
--
Ruud Harmsen, http://rudhar.com

Anti-Zionism is studied. Anti-Zionist Jews feature prominently*. That makes it problematic to equate it to anti-Semitism. Unless Jews can be anti-Semites, that is.

* Try this study: The Inverted Ideological Pyramids of Anti-Zionist Jews: The Case of Moshe Zuckermann
https://besacenter.org/perspectives-papers/inverted-ideological-pyramids-anti-zionist-jews-case-moshe-zuckermann/

[Yusuf B Gursey]

Dingbat on 4/19/2017 in

Post by Dingbat

Post by Ruud Harmsen
Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT): Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

A lot of anti-semites nowadays hide their vehement anti-semitism by
presenting it as alleged anti-zionism.
--
Ruud Harmsen, http://rudhar.com

Anti-Zionism is studied. Anti-Zionist Jews feature prominently*. That makes
it problematic to equate it to anti-Semitism. Unless Jews can be
anti-Semites, that is.
* Try this study: The Inverted Ideological Pyramids of Anti-Zionist Jews: The
Case of Moshe Zuckermann
https://besacenter.org/perspectives-papers/inverted-ideological-pyramids-anti-zionist-jews-case-moshe-zuckermann/

That is not a good article.

[Ruud Harmsen]

Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:34:34 -0700 (PDT): Dingbat

Post by Dingbat

Post by Ruud Harmsen
Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT): Yusuf B Gursey

Post by Yusuf B Gursey
While I don't frequently agree with Arnaud, his recent postings
are anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

A lot of anti-semites nowadays hide their vehement anti-semitism by
presenting it as alleged anti-zionism.
--
Ruud Harmsen, http://rudhar.com

Anti-Zionism is studied. Anti-Zionist Jews feature prominently*. That makes it problematic to equate it to anti-Semitism.

I didn't equate it. Look up "a lot of" in a good dictionary, and study
logic: a statement about many X being like Y, says very little about Y
in general.

Post by Dingbat
Unless Jews can be anti-Semites, that is.

They can. I know at least one. Seriously.

Post by Dingbat
* Try this study: The Inverted Ideological Pyramids of Anti-Zionist Jews: The Case of Moshe Zuckermann
https://besacenter.org/perspectives-papers/inverted-ideological-pyramids-anti-zionist-jews-case-moshe-zuckermann/

[Italo]

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs and not Palestinians.
Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't exist.

You're amazingly ignorant. Who was it that negotiated with Israel at Camp David
and in Oslo? Who governs the West Bank?

The West Bank is just a shredded occupied territory.
Just try to go there, and you'll know who "governs" [I mean= destroys] the West Bank.
The PoV of the Zionists is that Palestinians are "Arabs" and do not exist.

Your ignorance and bigotry know no bounds.
The ethnonym "Palestinian" was invented about a century ago to designate the
Arabs who lived in the territory called Palestine.

You are deluded or a crackpot defending such a premise. Hasbara 'facts' are desinformation. The intention is not to inform, merely to create doubt. Of course that works best with an audience of ignorant morons - which is where "americans" come into the play.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Post by Italo

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs and not Palestinians.
Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't exist.

You're amazingly ignorant. Who was it that negotiated with Israel at Camp David
and in Oslo? Who governs the West Bank?

The West Bank is just a shredded occupied territory.
Just try to go there, and you'll know who "governs" [I mean= destroys] the West Bank.
The PoV of the Zionists is that Palestinians are "Arabs" and do not exist.

Your ignorance and bigotry know no bounds.
The ethnonym "Palestinian" was invented about a century ago to designate the
Arabs who lived in the territory called Palestine.

You are deluded or a crackpot defending such a premise. Hasbara 'facts' are desinformation. The intention is not to inform, merely to create doubt. Of course that works best with an audience of ignorant morons - which is where "americans" come into the play.

What is "Hasbara"?

[Yusuf B Gursey]

Peter T. Daniels on 4/17/2017 in

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Italo

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs
and not Palestinians. Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't
exist.

You're amazingly ignorant. Who was it that negotiated with Israel at Camp
David and in Oslo? Who governs the West Bank?

The West Bank is just a shredded occupied territory.
Just try to go there, and you'll know who "governs" [I mean= destroys] the
West Bank. The PoV of the Zionists is that Palestinians are "Arabs" and
do not exist.

Your ignorance and bigotry know no bounds.
The ethnonym "Palestinian" was invented about a century ago to designate
the Arabs who lived in the territory called Palestine.

You are deluded or a crackpot defending such a premise. Hasbara 'facts' are
desinformation. The intention is not to inform, merely to create doubt. Of
course that works best with an audience of ignorant morons - which is where
"americans" come into the play.

What is "Hasbara"?

The Israeli Hebrew euphemism for propaganda to support Israel.

[Ruud Harmsen]

You are deluded or a crackpot defending such a premise. Hasbara 'facts' a=

re desinformation. The intention is not to inform, merely to create doubt. =
Of course that works best with an audience of ignorant morons - which is wh=
ere "americans" come into the play.=20

on, 17 Apr 2017 13:07:02 -0700 (PDT): "Peter T. Daniels"

What is "Hasbara"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_diplomacy_of_Israel

[Arnaud Fournet]

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs and not Palestinians.
Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't exist.

You're amazingly ignorant. Who was it that negotiated with Israel at Camp David
and in Oslo? Who governs the West Bank?

The West Bank is just a shredded occupied territory.
Just try to go there, and you'll know who "governs" [I mean= destroys] the West Bank.
The PoV of the Zionists is that Palestinians are "Arabs" and do not exist.

Your ignorance and bigotry know no bounds.

LOL. Look who is talking!
One of the worst pigheads and shitheads of internet talking about bigotry. Howlzz.
A.

Post by Peter T. Daniels
The ethnonym "Palestinian" was invented about a century ago to designate the
Arabs who lived in the territory called Palestine.

In French, this word describes about anybody that lives in Palestine.
For example, judaïsme palestinien would make no sense with your meaning.
A.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs and not Palestinians.
Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't exist.

You're amazingly ignorant. Who was it that negotiated with Israel at Camp David
and in Oslo? Who governs the West Bank?

The West Bank is just a shredded occupied territory.
Just try to go there, and you'll know who "governs" [I mean= destroys] the West Bank.
The PoV of the Zionists is that Palestinians are "Arabs" and do not exist.

Your ignorance and bigotry know no bounds.

LOL. Look who is talking!
One of the worst pigheads and shitheads of internet talking about bigotry. Howlzz.
A.

Post by Peter T. Daniels
The ethnonym "Palestinian" was invented about a century ago to designate the
Arabs who lived in the territory called Palestine.

In French, this word describes about anybody that lives in Palestine.
For example, judaïsme palestinien would make no sense with your meaning.

I guess that means English-speakers are smarter than French-speakers, because
we understand to distinguish between nouns and adjectives. "Christian Palestinian
Aramaic" is a language that was written by Christian inhabitants of Palestine,
using a form of Syriac script.

[Arnaud Fournet]

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by Arnaud Fournet
I suppose they were not "Arabs" but Palestinians.

Since when are Palestinians not Arabs?

since the Zionist State in Palestine declared Palestinians to be Arabs and not Palestinians.
Remember: there's no Palestinian. They just don't exist.

You're amazingly ignorant. Who was it that negotiated with Israel at Camp David
and in Oslo? Who governs the West Bank?

The West Bank is just a shredded occupied territory.
Just try to go there, and you'll know who "governs" [I mean= destroys] the West Bank.
The PoV of the Zionists is that Palestinians are "Arabs" and do not exist.

Your ignorance and bigotry know no bounds.

LOL. Look who is talking!
One of the worst pigheads and shitheads of internet talking about bigotry. Howlzz.
A.

Post by Peter T. Daniels
The ethnonym "Palestinian" was invented about a century ago to designate the
Arabs who lived in the territory called Palestine.

In French, this word describes about anybody that lives in Palestine.
For example, judaïsme palestinien would make no sense with your meaning.

I guess that means English-speakers are smarter than French-speakers, because

ah, and you are not bigoted, of course. :)
A.