Breaking Medical News --> US$32 Billion Dollar Global Guarantee ...

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

...as orginally established in 2015 is now expanded beyond just
covering type-2 diabetes to including its co-morbities such as
depression, sleep apnea, and cardiovascular disease:

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare

The above is the absolutely only healthy solution to the U.S.
healthcare fiscal crisis compared to either ObamaCare or TrumpCare
simply because it's the only healthy cure for costly chronic medical
conditions such as type-2 diabetes, depression, sleep apnea,
hypertension, hypercholesterolemia, and cardiovascular disease, which
all plague America thereby destroying our healthcare system.

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://bit.ly/T3BookCure
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for chronic acquired
diseases.

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[unknown]

The information posted here is out of date and incomplete and in its
original form misleading.

A single red flag alone says it all, "cure".

Please consult your medical expert for currrent information in your best
approach to diabetes care.

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[unknown]

"Cure" is a red flag.The information presented doesn't represent the
concensus of current medical research.

Better to seek medical direction with a proven doctor known and trusted by
you.

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

Post by unknown
"Cure" is a red flag.The information presented doesn't represent the
concensus of current medical research.
Better to seek medical direction with a proven doctor known and trusted by
you.

Back ground on sightwalker can be found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg> .
I wonder if license is still suspended?
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[unknown]

Best to only consult your local medical expert on personal health issues. .

If someone mentions a "cure" for diabetes, that is a huge red flag worth
paying attention to.

Discuss this with your local medicl provider.

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

Post by unknown
Best to only consult your local medical expert on personal health issues. .
If someone mentions a "cure" for diabetes, that is a huge red flag worth
paying attention to.
Discuss this with your local medicl provider.

Back ground on sightwalker can be found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg> .
I wonder if license is still suspended?
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/1/2017 5:57 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

Back ground on sightwalker can be found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg> .
I wonder if license is still suspended?
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/1/2017 5:57 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/1/2017 9:03 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/2/2017 3:37 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/2/2017 7:09 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[unknown]

Ask your local medical expert if there is a "cure" for diabetes.

Then act accordingly with their best advice.

You know them, you trust them, the internet is not the place to seek
medical clinical care.

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

Post by unknown
Ask your local medical expert if there is a "cure" for diabetes.
Then act accordingly with their best advice.
You know them, you trust them, the internet is not the place to seek
medical clinical care.

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Its all happening]

Post by unknown
Ask your local medical expert if there is a "cure" for diabetes.
Then act accordingly with their best advice.
You know them, you trust them, the internet is not the place to seek
medical clinical care.

Mainstream medicine also is not the place to seek a cure.
I'd listen to what mainstream has to say, sometimes their advice is
good and valid, but when it comes to the situation where they start
prescribing drugs, its time to say "whoa !! ... what's this shit
you're trying to push onto me".

You see mainstream has been hijacked by the pharmaceutical cartel.

Best option at that point is to turn to the internet and try to find
some alternative solutions.


--
Its all happening - right here, right now !!

Most Medical Information on Wikipedia is False
http://www.omsj.org/category/issues/wikipedia
http://tinyurl.com/n9rrj3l


"The Council of Foreign Relations Mistakenly Proves the Largest
Outbreaks of Infectious Diseases Are Within the Most Highly Vaccinated
Populations." http://tinyurl.com/kcu5e5g


Newer and more pharmaceutical drugs at higher prices (of course!!)
brought to you by big pharma

More and more spin, hype, lies and propaganda to get wars going and
clamp down on people's freedoms


A "barrier of entry" protects the racket. In the unholy union between
the FDA and the drug companies, today it takes hundreds of millions of
dollars of "testing" to approve any substance for medical use. As the
long arm of the FDA seeks to regulate herbs and vitamins (and who
knows what else is on their wish list?) the issue of health is
increasingly one that only large corporations can play. The way the
FDA paved that road was a reinterpretation of its mission in the
1960s. Originally, they were charged with food and drug safety. Then
they appended the word "effective" to their charge, which the drug
companies initially fought, but subsequently perverted into a great
way of protecting the racket. All those alternative cancer treatments
are "safe" because they are harmless, unlike the mainstream
treatments, which are anything but "safe."
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#system



The final blow to homeopathy, however, was dealt by diversifying
robber barons, John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie in particular.
Rockefeller and Carnegie amassed enormous fortunes during the Gilded
Age, through ingenuity and ruthlessness. As they came to dominate
their respective industries, they branched out and became
“philanthropists.” Their “philanthropy” was more directed toward
social engineering than humanitarian activity. Rockefeller and
Carnegie exercised “institutional control” over American medicine.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#developing

The AMA worked hand-in-hand with Flexner, and government was soon a
player. State boards refused to license doctors that did not come
from AMA-approved schools. That interlocking institutional control
spelled the death knell for homeopathy. In 1900, there were 22
homeopathic colleges. In 1918, there were only seven. Homeopathic
colleges were not the only casualties of the institutional control
that Rockefeller, Carnegie, the AMA, licensing boards, and drug
companies would exercise over medicine. That process also closed most
medical schools for women and blacks. The AMA successfully kept
blacks out of medicine until the 1960s, with an effort led by Morris
Fishbein.[133] The alleged strategy was bringing science and
education to medicine, but it was also obviously a power play to
consolidate wealth and power. Ironically, Rockefeller would not take
the drugs that his empire promoted. His personal physician was a
homeopath, and John D. lived to be nearly 100 years old.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#developing











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[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/2/2017 3:37 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[23x]

How to Spot an Online Scam

http://m.wikihow.com/Spot-an-Online-Scam

°°°°°

“Wonderfully hungry” doc suspended by medical board

Carrie Teegardin
August 8, 2016 Investigations, watchdog news.

A Georgia physician who asks almost everyone if they are “wonderfully hungry” was told by the Georgia Composite Medical Board on Thursday that his license will be revoked if he doesn’t complete a mental and physical evaluation within 30 days.



Dr. Andrew Ben-Hua Chung had his license suspended by the board in June after failing to comply with an order to complete a comprehensive exam. The board said in its summary suspension order that it had concerns about the doctor’s ability to practice safely, saying its investigation found that Chung refuses to speak to people unless they state they are “wonderfully hungry.”

Dr. Andrew Chung appeared Thursday before the Georgia Composite Medical Board
Dr. Andrew Chung appeared Thursday before the Georgia Composite Medical Board

At Thursday’s public hearing, in which Chung appeared before the board, the doctor repeatedly asked board members and witnesses when greeting them if they were wonderfully hungry. Chung, who said he was trained at Emory University, also said he was a non-partisan candidate for president of the United States.

Chung explained that if people are wonderfully hungry, it indicates they are not having a heart attack. He said he asks the question as a caring physician and does not put patients at risk, as suggested by the board. Chung also promotes a”Be Hungry” diet as a path to health.


Attorney Lance LoRusso testified on Thursday that he filed a complaint against Chung with the medical board in 2015 after contacting the doctor on behalf of a client. He said the doctor’s behavior during his interactions raised concerns about patient care that LoRusso thought the medical board should consider. LoRusso said the doctor would not converse with him until LoRusso said he was “wonderfully hungry.”

Chung said he had been practicing in Mableton prior to his suspension.

Chung said he had been questioned by the medical board in the past, related to a book he published that advises people to limit themselves to 32 ounces of food a day.

Chung was also linked in news accounts to the mother of Markea Berry, a 16-year-old who died of starvation in 2012. Berry weighed just 43 pounds. In 2014, Ebony Espree Berry pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter in her daughter’s death. Investigators determined that the mother did not intentionally starve the teen, but should have sought medical treatment for her.

Chung told the AJC Thursday that he was connected to Ebony Berry through social media. He said he visited the mother in jail after her arrest.

Chung, who goes by “Heart Doc Andrew,” told the board Thursday that he would be willing to undergo the evaluation but insisted that the results must be made available to the public because of the need to be transparent in his political campaign.


http://investigations.blog.ajc.com/2016/08/04/wonderfully-hungry-doc-suspended-by-medical-board/

°°°°°

The doctor behind the 'hunger cult' that obsessed a mother who 'starved her 16-year-old daughter to death'

By Michael Zennie
22:24 EDT 26 Jun 2012, updated 06:46 EDT 01 Aug 2012

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2165270/Dr-Andrew-Chung-advocates-wonderfully-hungry-friends-Ebony-Berry-accused-starving-daughter.html

°°°°°

Diet Doctor Defends Mom of Teen Who Died Weighing 40 Pounds
By ALYSSA NEWCOMB
June 28, 2012

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hungry-doctor-diet-kill-georgia-teenager/story?id=16661077

°°°°°

THE BASIC LAWS OF HUMAN STUPIDITY
By Carlo M. Cipolla
illustrations by James Donnelly


http://harmful.cat-v.org/people/basic-laws-of-human-stupidity/

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/3/2017 8:41 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/3/2017 9:58 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/3/2017 5:27 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/3/2017 5:56 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/3/2017 9:50 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/3/2017 9:50 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/4/2017 7:28 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/4/2017 8:20 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/4/2017 5:03 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/3/2017 9:50 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/3/2017 5:27 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/3/2017 8:56 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[unknown]

"Healthy cure" implies multiple "cures". Another huge red flag.

Don't be confused by chatter one encounters on the internet from an unknown
source.

Always consult a trusted local to you expert of demonstrated known
credentials and training and knowledge.

[Robert]

On 03 Aug 2017 20:26:49 GMT, helper wrote:

Hello Fool, aka Servant.

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

Post by Robert
Hello Fool, aka Servant.

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[hby]

Post by Robert
Hello Fool, aka Servant.

Talking toyourself still?

[earl]

Post by Robert
Hello Fool, aka Servant.

Not unless he has moved to the US. Read the headers.

--

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/4/2017 5:28 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[unknown]

The Bottom line, it is best to only seek local to you medical services from
known qualified sources.

Ask that person about a "cure" for diabetes and fully trust their answer.

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

Post by unknown
The Bottom line, it is best to only seek local to you medical services from
known qualified sources.
Ask that person about a "cure" for diabetes and fully trust their answer.

Not a defrocked Doc?

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

Andy, why do you choose to robo-spam ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/qV5KSlvbigk/kkSZ6C99BQAJ

Neither this nor the Holy Spirit are robo-spam.

Willfully lying before anyone, who is in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is indeed blaspheming **against** Him.

You clearly remain eternally condemned for blaspheming **against** the
Holy Spirit just as Ananias and Sapphira were.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, **and** your entire household more than ever,
in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Amen.

"Whatever you, HeartDoc Andrew, ask, in My Name, will be done for
you." -- Holy Spirit (John 16:23)

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/4/2017 10:04 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/5/2017 3:48 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/5/2017 7:40 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/5/2017 10:37 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/5/2017 11:46 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

On 8/5/2017 10:37 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[unknown]

The suggested "cure" is no such thing, period.

It is like saying one can "cure" a missing gall bladder.

In diabetes beta cells are missing and are not regenerated.

One can control to a large extent the symptoms of a missing gall bladder.

Likewise for beta cells.

That is not "cure".

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

Post by unknown
The suggested "cure" is no such thing, period.
It is like saying one can "cure" a missing gall bladder.
In diabetes beta cells are missing and are not regenerated.
One can control to a large extent the symptoms of a missing gall bladder.
Likewise for beta cells.
That is not "cure".

Truth isn't sightwalker's cup of tea...
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[unknown]

Do we "cure" a missing gall bladder?

Do we "cure" missing beta cells?

No, we at best control the symptoms caused by the missing tissue the body
does not rplace.

This is the kind of information best learned from your choice of local
acknowledged medical expert.

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

Post by unknown
Do we "cure" a missing gall bladder?
Do we "cure" missing beta cells?
No, we at best control the symptoms caused by the missing tissue the body
does not replace.
This is the kind of information best learned from your choice of local
acknowledged medical expert.

Do not confuse sightwalker with truth, all can see that it is addled...
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[d***@twilightz.one]

Post by unknown
Do we "cure" a missing gall bladder?
Do we "cure" missing beta cells?
No, we at best control the symptoms caused by the missing tissue the body
does not rplace.
This is the kind of information best learned from your choice of local
acknowledged medical expert.

And not some fool on the net like this person, who cannot fess up as
to who they are.

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare

Do we "cure" a missing gall bladder?

A missing gall bladder is evidence of cure.

We cure an infected gall bladder by removing it.

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown
Do we "cure" missing beta cells?

We allow beta cells to regrow when we lose the beta-cell-killing
http://HeartMDPhD.com/VAT thereby curing the type-2 diabetes

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown
No, we at best control the symptoms caused by the missing tissue the body
does not rplace.

You remain cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD to falsely believe that.

May GOD continue to curse you, who are eternally condemned, and your
entire household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown
This is the kind of information best learned from your choice of local
acknowledged medical expert.

May all who believe you, who are eternally condemned, also remain
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Amen.

Post by d***@twilightz.one
And not some fool on the net like this person, who cannot fess up as
to who they are.

I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and hope
you, Dr. Who, also have a healthy appetite too.

So how are you ?












... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown

http://WDJW.net//HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

Do we "cure" a missing gall bladder?

A missing gall bladder is evidence of cure.

We cure an infected gall bladder by removing it.

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown
Do we "cure" missing beta cells?

We allow beta cells to regrow when we lose the beta-cell-killing
http://HeartMDPhD.com/VAT thereby curing the type-2 diabetes

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown
No, we at best control the symptoms caused by the missing tissue the body
does not rplace.

You remain cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD to falsely believe that.

May GOD continue to curse you, who are eternally condemned, and your
entire household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown
This is the kind of information best learned from your choice of local
acknowledged medical expert.

May all who believe you, who are eternally condemned, also remain
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VaNUc6reB8I/JUKqeuOSAgAJ

Post by d***@twilightz.one
And not some fool on the net like this person, who cannot fess up as
to who they are.

Such is the condition of the eternally condemned as they are ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Nonetheless, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 )
and hope you, Dr. Who, also have a healthy appetite too.

So how are you ?












... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[unknown]

A false claimed often reported does not truth it make.

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

Do we "cure" a missing gall bladder?

A missing gall bladder is evidence of cure.

We cure an infected gall bladder by removing it.

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown
Do we "cure" missing beta cells?

We allow beta cells to regrow when we lose the beta-cell-killing
http://HeartMDPhD.com/VAT thereby curing the type-2 diabetes

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown
No, we at best control the symptoms caused by the missing tissue the body
does not rplace.

You remain cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD to falsely believe that.

May GOD continue to curse you, who are eternally condemned, and your
entire household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown
This is the kind of information best learned from your choice of local
acknowledged medical expert.

May all who believe you, who are eternally condemned, also remain
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VaNUc6reB8I/JUKqeuOSAgAJ

Post by d***@twilightz.one
And not some fool on the net like this person, who cannot fess up as
to who they are.

Such is the condition of the eternally condemned as they are ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Nonetheless, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 )
and hope you, Dr. Who, also have a healthy appetite too.

So how are you ?












... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Jimmy Alpha GeD]

Post by unknown
A false claimed often reported does not truth it make.

It's only false in the real world, not in sightwalkers addled world of
make believe.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

Do we "cure" a missing gall bladder?

A missing gall bladder is evidence of cure.

We cure an infected gall bladder by removing it.

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown
Do we "cure" missing beta cells?

We allow beta cells to regrow when we lose the beta-cell-killing
http://HeartMDPhD.com/VAT thereby curing the type-2 diabetes

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown
No, we at best control the symptoms caused by the missing tissue the body
does not rplace.

You remain cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD to falsely believe that.

May GOD continue to curse you, who are eternally condemned, and your
entire household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Post by d***@twilightz.one

Post by unknown
This is the kind of information best learned from your choice of local
acknowledged medical expert.

May all who believe you, who are eternally condemned, also remain
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VaNUc6reB8I/JUKqeuOSAgAJ

Post by d***@twilightz.one
And not some fool on the net like this person, who cannot fess up as
to who they are.

Such is the condition of the eternally condemned as they are ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Nonetheless, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 )
and hope you, Dr. Who, also have a healthy appetite too.

So how are you ?












... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[•]

Activism On The Net, & Public Relations on the Net: Winning Strategies to Inform and Influence the Media, the Investment Community



misc.health.alternative



Public Relations on the Net: Winning Strategies to Inform and Influence the ...
By Shel Holtz

About this book


AMACOM Div American Mgmt Assn

Pages displayed by permission of AMACOM Div American Mgmt Assn. Copyright.

Page 289

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http://books.google.com/books?id=9Fklo3VGH4UC&pg=PA289&lpg=PA289&ots=2qZTc8npgq&focus=viewport&dq=misc.health.alternative&output=html_text

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
...as orginally established in 2015 is now expanded beyond just
covering type-2 diabetes to including its co-morbities such as
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
The above is the absolutely only healthy solution to the U.S.
healthcare fiscal crisis compared to either ObamaCare or TrumpCare
simply because it's the only healthy cure for costly chronic medical
conditions such as type-2 diabetes, depression, sleep apnea,
hypertension, hypercholesterolemia, and cardiovascular disease, which
all plague America thereby destroying our healthcare system.

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?
Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J
and
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ
Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
http://bit.ly/T3BookCure
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for chronic acquired
diseases.

[•]

[misc.health.alternative]

Activism On The Net, & Public Relations on the Net: Winning Strategies to Inform and Influence the Media, the Investment Community



misc.health.alternative



Public Relations on the Net: Winning Strategies to Inform and Influence the ...
By Shel Holtz

About this book


AMACOM Div American Mgmt Assn

Pages displayed by permission of AMACOM Div American Mgmt Assn. Copyright.

Page 289

The limited preview of this book is available as an image only.



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Post by •
Activism On The Net, & Public Relations on the Net: Winning Strategies to Inform and Influence the Media, the Investment Community
misc.health.alternative
Public Relations on the Net: Winning Strategies to Inform and Influence the ...
By Shel Holtz
About this book
AMACOM Div American Mgmt Assn
Pages displayed by permission of AMACOM Div American Mgmt Assn. Copyright.
Page 289
The limited preview of this book is available as an image only.
http://books.google.com/books?id=9Fklo3VGH4UC&pg=PA289&lpg=PA289&ots=2qZTc8npgq&focus=viewport&dq=misc.health.alternative&output=html_text

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
...as orginally established in 2015 is now expanded beyond just
covering type-2 diabetes to including its co-morbities such as
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
The above is the absolutely only healthy solution to the U.S.
healthcare fiscal crisis compared to either ObamaCare or TrumpCare
simply because it's the only healthy cure for costly chronic medical
conditions such as type-2 diabetes, depression, sleep apnea,
hypertension, hypercholesterolemia, and cardiovascular disease, which
all plague America thereby destroying our healthcare system.

"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ

Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?
Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J
and
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ
Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
http://bit.ly/T3BookCure
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for chronic acquired
diseases.

[∆]

Key Types of Weirdos On The Internet

https://thoughtcatalog.com/leigh-alexander/2012/02/key-types-of-weirdos-there-are-on-the-internet/