Post by Mitchell HolmanPost by jane.playnePost by Adam A. WandererAnd why America is still too dumb to accept it.
http://time.com/money/4733018/what-is-single-payer-healthcare-
sys
tem/
The answer to the question isn't rocket science. People want
shit f
or free. The problem is you think healthcare is expensive now? Wait
till it's free.
On a per capita basis the US pays more for health care than any
other
country, almost double that of Canada and nearly triple the UK.
That means the US is doing it all wrong and can
learn a lot from other countries.
http://www.who.int/gho/health_financing/per_capita_expenditure/en/
I promise you that if the US ever, God forbid, goes with single
payer,
costs will not...I repeat...NOT go down. Quality and wait time will
worsen.
Bull shi
Your quality now is based on what plan you can afford, and if your
plan d
oesn't cover
something you come down with, then you're shit out of luck. Single
payer covers you for almost everything. Got cancer? You're
covered. Don't have a plan for cancer? You're shit out of luck.
Want an MRI? Hip replacement? Knee replacement? Have fun waiting for
months on end. And what ever you do don't get old. You simply get
cast aside as not worth it. Look, your pie in the sky single payer
will be a disaster on several fronts. See the VA for how great the
concept of single payer is. Here's an idea - buy your own goddam
health care and don't look to someone else to foot your bills. You
moochers are something else.
And yet Medicare works fine and the Canadian system works really
<http://www.pnhp.org/news/2008/february/10_myths_about_canad.php>
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The reason people like Canada's single payer health care is because
they DO NOT KNOW THE FACTS!
The fact is millions of Americans are driven
into bankruptcy by medical bills while NO ONE
in Canada is.
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You have a history of FAILURE; you FAILED to dispute Yak's claim "Have
fun waiting for months on end."
Your FAILURE is due to the fact that I post FACTS, not bullshit. *I*
post the links to the OFFICIAL Ontario web site of wait list postings.
Your "survey" has been disputed and debunked over and over again. The
"survey" did not say " ...that this is the biggest cause of bankruptcy"
The "survey" stated that medical issues were a factor in the majority of
bankruptcies.
If a person ran up a mountain of debt on credit cards, a mountain of
debt on a home they could not afford, a mountain of debt on a luxury car
[1] they can not afford ... AND IF they loose 2 weeks of work due to
illness, THAT is declared as a MEDICAL BANKRUPTCY by the "survey".
Under that definition there have been many, many Canadians who suffered
from a "medical bankruptcy"
End Notes:
1. 86% of luxury cars are purchased by people who are not wealthy.
Post by Mitchell HolmanMedical Expenses
A study done at Harvard University indicates that
this is the biggest cause of bankruptcy, representing
62% of all personal bankruptcies. One of the interesting
caveats of this study shows that 78% of filers had some
form of health insurance, thus bucking the myth that
medical bills affe ct only the uninsured.
Rare or serious diseases or injuries can easily result
in hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills -
bills that can quickly wipe out savings and retirement
accounts, college education funds and home equity. Once
these have been exhausted, bankruptcy may be the only
shelter left, regardless of whether the patient or his
or her family was able to apply health coverage to a
portion of the bill or not.
Read more: Top 5 Reasons Why People Go Bankrupt
http://www.investopedia.com/slide-show/top-5-reasons-why-people-go-
bankrupt/#ixzz4eVxldNxM
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You have a history