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Re-opening York Road - Or Not
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CJB
2018-02-18 21:38:57 UTC
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Recliner
2018-02-18 22:58:01 UTC
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The cheaper Maiden Lane option is interesting, particularly as the nearest
LO station is inconveniently far away. That could generate net extra usage,
whereas York Road would not.
Basil Jet
2018-02-19 13:08:27 UTC
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The cheaper Maiden Lane option is interesting, particularly as the nearest
LO station is inconveniently far away. That could generate net extra usage,
whereas York Road would not.
Escalators might indeed be too expensive, but how about an inclined lift
in a new sloping shaft from the Piccadilly platforms to the Maiden Lane
site, where a new station would serve Piccadilly and NLL? A stepped
funicular (with flat counterweight) just tall enough for someone in a
wheelchair, with a few dozen seats in front or behind, would only
require a tunnel with about a quarter of the cross-sectional area of the
Southwark single escalator shafts.
Recliner
2018-02-19 14:10:55 UTC
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The cheaper Maiden Lane option is interesting, particularly as the nearest
LO station is inconveniently far away. That could generate net extra usage,
whereas York Road would not.
Escalators might indeed be too expensive, but how about an inclined lift
in a new sloping shaft from the Piccadilly platforms to the Maiden Lane
site, where a new station would serve Piccadilly and NLL? A stepped
funicular (with flat counterweight) just tall enough for someone in a
wheelchair, with a few dozen seats in front or behind, would only
require a tunnel with about a quarter of the cross-sectional area of the
Southwark single escalator shafts.
Even simply reinstating the old York Rd Piccadilly line station, with
lifts, would be too expensive, both initially, and in running costs.
Building an all-new Piccadilly station to the north of the current
site would be much more expensive, and hence a non-starter. The
existing station platforms are too far south to be linked to a new LO
York Way station (HS1 is in between them).

Probably the only way this could happen is to built a pretty standard
LO York Way station, with stairs and disabled lifts. There's room, and
the tracks are almost straight:
https://binged.it/2BEPRDB

r***@cix.compulink.co.uk
2018-02-19 00:09:06 UTC
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Post by Recliner
The cheaper Maiden Lane option is interesting, particularly as the nearest
LO station is inconveniently far away. That could generate net extra
usage, whereas York Road would not.
Looks like a good plan. Would all LO services call or would North London or
East London alone be enough?
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Colin Rosenstiel
Recliner
2018-02-19 00:30:23 UTC
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Post by Recliner
The cheaper Maiden Lane option is interesting, particularly as the nearest
LO station is inconveniently far away. That could generate net extra
usage, whereas York Road would not.
Looks like a good plan. Would all LO services call or would North London or
East London alone be enough?
Only NLL LO services serve that stretch of line. ELL services don't get
that far west.

It is odd that the NLL gets so close to Kings Cross with no station in the
now rapidly developing area.
r***@cix.compulink.co.uk
2018-02-19 00:43:43 UTC
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The cheaper Maiden Lane option is interesting, particularly as the
nearest LO station is inconveniently far away. That could generate net
extra usage, whereas York Road would not.
Looks like a good plan. Would all LO services call or would North
London or East London alone be enough?
Only NLL LO services serve that stretch of line. ELL services don't get
that far west.
Of course! Silly me!
Post by Recliner
It is odd that the NLL gets so close to Kings Cross with no station in the
now rapidly developing area.
Indeed. Obvious when one looks at the map.
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Colin Rosenstiel
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