Egkaivia mvhmeiou tou Xrusomallou Deratos twv Argovautwv sto Sotsi ths Rwsias

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Sophia

2008-01-30 13:30:01 UTC

Auto pou m' aresei einai h anafora sto AKRIBES omoiwma tou 8rylikou

Silbouplai, Perikles, emeis 3eorme pws ntav n argw, dia0etoume kai
xrovomnxavn ama laxei va'oum.
Kai n Argw ntav gegovos, oxi mu0os :-)))

phgainane oi amerikanoi kai rixnane apo kei sth 8alassa ena kouti
demeno me skoini sa stauros twn 8eofaneiwn pou panw tou egrafe "TEA" me
terastia grammata, enw oi gynaikes tous empleoi e8nikhs yperhfaneias

:-))))))))))Laikn sumemtoxn stous eortasmous kai de sou arese ki olas;

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A, apo kei 8a pnrave ta sxedia kai gia to avtigrafo ploio mesa sto Caesar's Palace sto Las Vegas

Ekei bebaia, "xrysomallo deras" snmaivei allo

iv- xaire o pokos o evdrosos -mooyvt

Auto pou m' aresei einai h anafora sto AKRIBES omoiwma tou 8rylikou
skafous "Argw". Den 8a einai aplws ena ploio pou peripou 8a moiazei me
to pws len oi arxaiologoi oti htan ta ploia ths perioxhs thn
ypoti8emenh epoxh ths Argonautikhs ekstrateias. Ooooxi... 8a einai
akribes omoiwma. Brhkan ta sxedia pou eixe parapetaksei kapou o Argos
kai 8a to ksanaftiaksoun opws akribws htan (anarwtiemai 8a einai h
idia

Ela bre Perikln!
Evta3ei mporei n Argw va sapnse kai va plakwse kai va skotwse tov
Iaswva sta geratia tou alla oi 0eoi provonsav kai ta sxedia exouv
diasw0ei. Oriste:
http://www.starrynightphotos.com/constellations/argo_navis.htm
Arkei va ta avtigrayoume.

Isws kai stnv polu wraia ekdoxn tou Hevelius:
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Yiannis

Argw pou eixan ftiaksei sthn Ellada prin kapoia xronia kai kamarwne
san
gyftiko skeparni o dhmarxos tou Bolou h 8a ftiaksoun kainourio na'
xoun
ki oi Rwssoi th dikh tous Argw? Na ftiaksoun kai oi Gewrgianoi mia
dikia tous, na mh ftiaksoun mia kai oi tourkoi na kanei parea sto
Doureio ippo tous? ki etsi 8a exoume Argostolo argosxolwn..)
Pantws erxontai deuteroi sta "akribh omoiwmata". 8ymamai pou otan eixa
paei sth Bostwnh eixa dei se mia gwnia ena prama san kaiki kai
phgainane oi amerikanoi kai rixnane apo kei sth 8alassa ena kouti
demeno me skoini sa stauros twn 8eofaneiwn pou panw tou egrafe "TEA"
me
terastia grammata, enw oi gynaikes tous empleoi e8nikhs yperhfaneias
ebgazan binteo na kamarwnoun tous hrwikous syzygous. Mono pou ola htan
Ntisneylant - to ploio htan aplws ena "reconstruction" pou esthse mia
idiwtikh etaireia gia na kobei moneda. Allou diabaza oti htan
antigrafo
enos apo ta ploia tou Boston Tea Party, allou oti htan aplws
reconstruction enos typikou ploiou ths epoxhs. Pantws to kanoniko
ploio, estw me meremetia, den htan.
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"> iv-  xaire o pokos o evdrosos -mooyvt iannis <***@YAHOO.FR> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Le 29 janv. 08 � 23:30, Periklhs a �crit : > Auto pou m' aresei einai h anafora sto AKRIBES omoiwma tou 8rylikou > skafous "Argw". Den 8a einai aplws ena ploio pou peripou 8a moiazei me > to pws len oi arxaiologoi oti htan ta ploia ths perioxhs thn > ypoti8emenh epoxh ths Argonautikhs ekstrateias. Ooooxi... 8a einai > akribes omoiwma. Brhkan ta sxedia pou eixe
parapetaksei kapou o Argos > kai 8a to ksanaftiaksoun opws akribws htan (anarwtiemai 8a einai h > idia Ela bre Perikln! Evta3ei mporei n Argw va sapnse kai va plakwse kai va skotwse tov Iaswva sta geratia tou alla oi 0eoi provonsav kai ta sxedia exouv diasw0ei. Oriste: http://www.starrynightphotos.com/constellations/argo_navis.htm Arkei va ta avtigrayoume. Isws kai stnv polu wraia ekdoxn tou Hevelius: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Argo_Navis_Hevelius.jpg Yiannis > Argw pou eixan ftiaksei sthn Ellada prin kapoia xronia kai kamarwne > san > gyftiko skeparni o dhmarxos tou Bolou h 8a ftiaksoun kainourio na' > xoun > ki oi Rwssoi th dikh tous Argw? Na ftiaksoun kai oi Gewrgianoi mia > dikia tous, na mh ftiaksoun mia kai oi tourkoi na kanei parea sto > Doureio ippo tous? ki etsi 8a exoume Argostolo argosxolwn..) > > Pantws erxontai
deuteroi sta "akribh omoiwmata". 8ymamai pou otan eixa > paei sth Bostwnh eixa dei se mia gwnia ena prama san kaiki kai > phgainane oi amerikanoi kai rixnane apo kei sth 8alassa ena kouti > demeno me skoini sa stauros twn 8eofaneiwn pou panw tou egrafe "TEA" > me > terastia grammata, enw oi gynaikes tous empleoi e8nikhs yperhfaneias > ebgazan binteo na kamarwnoun tous hrwikous syzygous. Mono pou ola htan > Ntisneylant - to ploio htan aplws ena "reconstruction" pou esthse mia > idiwtikh etaireia gia na kobei moneda. Allou diabaza oti htan > antigrafo > enos apo ta ploia tou Boston Tea Party, allou oti htan aplws > reconstruction enos typikou ploiou ths epoxhs. Pantws to kanoniko > ploio, estw me meremetia, den htan. > > �. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo
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iannis

2008-01-30 21:30:00 UTC

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Periklhs

2008-01-30 21:30:01 UTC

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Lepromerestato sxedio ontws. An thn ftiaksane akolou8wntas auto, den
aporw pou exane maderia en ois kai auto pou kopanhse ton Iasona sto
doksapatri kai to xasame to paidi panw sto an8os twn ghrateiwn tou. Ti
sou einai omws autoi oi AHP! Mexri pyksida blepw eixane sta karabia
tous... (alh8eia, giati thn prymnh th lene kai "Poop"? Apo kei kanane
kaka tous oi arxaioi? Logiko, 8a mou peite... phgainane sto pisw meros
tou karabiou, tourlwnane ton kwlo eksw ap' to kagkelo panw apo th
8alassa, kai ekanan auto pou eixan kanei kati Italika kotera stous
Antipaksous kai ekei pou mas eixe paei to karabaki na kolymphsoume se
mia foberh, ypoti8etai, paralia, anakalypsa oti dipla mou kolympouse
kai ena stereo antikeimeno pou protimw na mhn to 8ymamai alla
ksexniountai tetoies empeiries?)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Argo_Navis_Hevelius.jpg

De mou lete re paidia, h plwrh h h prymnh ths "Argous" htan pou den
kelaidouse san pouli mhte san xelidoni mono milouse ki elege m'
an8rwpinh lalitsa? Dioti eixa thn entypwsh h prymnh, alla o Hevelius
exei balei ekeinh thn kataxaroumenh fatsa mprosta. A, psemata, h plwrh
milage, h prymnh einai auth pou xalase ligo stis Symplhgades ki egine h
Argw psalidokwlh. Swstos o Hevelius, ki egw prepei na ksanadiabasw
kamia my8ologia giati ksexnaw kai ta stoixeiwdh pia.

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2008-01-30 22:30:00 UTC

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Kai astrovomia prepei va diabaseis :-)
Prumvn, pu3ida, kariva kai pavia eivai ta 4 kommatia sta opoia ekoye
evas Gallos priv 2-3 aiwves tov asterismo tou Ptolemaiou giati ntav
polu megalos. H prumvn gallika legetai poupe (stnv argot pou dev exei
sxesn me tnv Argw, mporei va to akouseis kai gia guvaikeia opis0ia :-))

Gia to av milouse n plwrn n n prumvn prepei va 3avadiabasw ki egw...

Oi foberes paralies twv Ioviwv mou 0umizouv to vauagio stn Zakuv0o pou
eivai xarma of0almwv otav to blepeis alla otav pas va boutn3eis
diapistwveis oti exei tosa ploia pou eivai sa va kolumpas se mariva
avayuxns.
H ev plw suvavtnsn sou, mou 0umizei otav mikros ma0aiva istioploia sto
Palio Falnro ki eblepa va pleouv gurw sakoules kai karpouzofloudes.
Oso aera kai kuma kai va'xe elega "dev prepei va pesw mesa, 0a pa0w
to3iko sok". Eimai sigouros oti av ta vera ntav pio ka0ara, se kapoies
duskoles faseis avti va swsw to toumparisma 0a to eixa afnsei. Ekei
dev toumparisa pote :-)

Yiannis

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Post by Ilias Kast
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Lepromerestato sxedio ontws. An thn ftiaksane akolou8wntas auto, den
aporw pou exane maderia en ois kai auto pou kopanhse ton Iasona sto
doksapatri kai to xasame to paidi panw sto an8os twn ghrateiwn tou. Ti
sou einai omws autoi oi AHP! Mexri pyksida blepw eixane sta karabia
tous... (alh8eia, giati thn prymnh th lene kai "Poop"? Apo kei kanane
kaka tous oi arxaioi? Logiko, 8a mou peite... phgainane sto pisw meros
tou karabiou, tourlwnane ton kwlo eksw ap' to kagkelo panw apo th
8alassa, kai ekanan auto pou eixan kanei kati Italika kotera stous
Antipaksous kai ekei pou mas eixe paei to karabaki na kolymphsoume se
mia foberh, ypoti8etai, paralia, anakalypsa oti dipla mou kolympouse
kai ena stereo antikeimeno pou protimw na mhn to 8ymamai alla
ksexniountai tetoies empeiries?)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Argo_Navis_Hevelius.jpg
De mou lete re paidia, h plwrh h h prymnh ths "Argous" htan pou den
kelaidouse san pouli mhte san xelidoni mono milouse ki elege m'
an8rwpinh lalitsa? Dioti eixa thn entypwsh h prymnh, alla o Hevelius
exei balei ekeinh thn kataxaroumenh fatsa mprosta. A, psemata, h plwrh
milage, h prymnh einai auth pou xalase ligo stis Symplhgades ki
egine h
Argw psalidokwlh. Swstos o Hevelius, ki egw prepei na ksanadiabasw
kamia my8ologia giati ksexnaw kai ta stoixeiwdh pia.
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Sophia

2008-02-03 15:30:01 UTC

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Aut argnse v amou er0ei kai to afnsa asxoliasto, kai dev kavei, giati
prpeie va divoume evausmata stov Perikln (evarktnria laktismata 0a
egrafa, alla to alla3a mnv pare3ngn0oume giati ama tou dwsei o ka0evas
mas apo eva laktisma tou Perikln, meta 0a exei polu problnma, ma para
polu problnma...

Ma den prokeitai gia eortasmo sygmekrimenh mera, einai monimh
touristikh atraksion. "Elate na riksete to tsai sth 8alassa opws ekanan
oi hrwikoi mas progonoi" (mono pou eseis prepei na plhrwsete gia na
epanalabete kati pou ekeinoi ekanan giati DEN h8elan na plhrwnoun :-)

OK, twra ktalabaivw giati oi suzugo tous 0aumazav klp klp. 0a mporousav
dnladn va pave va peta3ouv mia balitsa stn 0alassa kapou allou sto
tsampa kai va pouv oti oriste, kapws etsi to ekavav kai oi AHP (tous).

As poume kati san thn anaparastash ths katalhpshs ths Kalamatas apo ton
Kolokotrwnh, 23 Martiou (elpizw na mh diabazei kanenas Kalabrytinos,
dioti yphrxe megas kaugas poios ksekinhse prwtos).

Leptomereies, gvwrizoume oti n 25n Martiou epilextnke meta apo protasn
tns Amalias gia sumbolikous skopous ki oxi giati ovtws kati egive tote.

paristane ton Kolokotrwnh, malista paliotera htan kai efippos, legane,
mexri pou mia mera gkremotsakisthke apo to alogo h egine kapoio allo
atyxhma kai ektote egine pezikarios. Den kserw an einai alh8eia.

Xm, pio pi0avo oti epaye o kosmos va ektrefei aloga kai ti va tov
kavouv; Na tov balouv va kaballnsei gaidaro 'n - akoma xeirotera-
moulari; Kotsam oplarxngos epi pwlou ovou, de leei. TI efodo va kaveis
me to gaidaro;

ths, kai h Kalamata apeleu8erwnontan. Ka8olou dyskolo (sthn
anaparastash) afou den yphrxe oute enas Tourkos gia deigma, oloi
hrwikoi ellhnes hmaste.

Giati dev bazate kavevav axwveuto va kavie tov Touro dioikntn kai va
paggelei "t'alogo, t'alogo, Omer Bruwvn, to Souli exoumnse kai mas
plakwvei", pou OK, eivia grammevo gia alln surra3n, alla to pveuam metraei.
parev0esn: auto telika eivai n ellnvikn bersiov tou Sai3pnrikou "my
kingdom for a horse", kleivei n parev0esn.

Adika peftan oi koumpouries ston aera dhladh.

Meta phgainame gia fai (h anapaush tou polemisth, pou lene.)

Ax, ap mikra stis kakes suvn0eies! Meta pngiavame va pai3ouem mpasket,
eprpee va les.

ypoti8etai oti egine. Den exoun monima sthn eisodo ths Kalamatas enan
maskaremeno Kolokotrwnh na leei stous touristes "Plhrwste na
apeleu8erwsoume thn Kalamata"

Xm, mou bazeis idees twra....

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2008-02-05 18:30:01 UTC

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Post by Sophia
egrafa, alla to alla3a mnv pare3ngn0oume giati ama tou dwsei o
ka0evas
mas apo eva laktisma tou Perikln, meta 0a exei polu problnma, ma para
polu problnma...

Den nomizw oti kindyneuw. Exeis proseksei posa melh exei h lista? Kai
ta pio polla anenerga.

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Kolokotrwnh, 23 Martiou (elpizw na mh diabazei kanenas

Kalabrytinos,

dioti yphrxe megas kaugas poios ksekinhse prwtos).

Leptomereies, gvwrizoume oti n 25n Martiou epilextnke meta apo
protasn
tns Amalias

Alla den milame gia tis 25 Martiou kai ta ypoti8emena anebasmata
labarwn. Leme gia tis 23. Oi men Kalabrytinoi isxyrizontan oti oi
prwtes apsimaxies - mikroepi8eseis kata Tourkwn eginan sthn perioxh
tous oi de Kalamatianoi elegan oti ta Kalabrytina htan aplws epi8eseis
se aproetoimastes mikroomades h memonwmenous tourkous - kati gia
foroeispraktores 8ymamai - enw h Kalamata htan h prwth polh pou
apeleu8erw8hke me maxh kai tetoia. Den katalabainw giati o kaugas, afou
etsi ki alliws h epanastash eixe ksekinhsei pro pollou sth Moldoblaxia,
alla eidika to 1971 me ta 150xrona eixe ginei arketh syzhthsh gia to
8ema. Emeis hmastan me tous Kalamatianous gia topikistikous logous.

Post by Sophia
Giati dev bazate kavevav axwveuto va kavie tov Touro dioikntn

Poios na dextei na paiksei ton ex8ro? Stis sxolikes parastaseis kaneis
den tous h8ele autous tous rolous. Egw apo e8nikous rolous hmoun OK,
mia fora eixa paiksei to Mesologgith oplarxhgo Razhkotsika (twra ti
douleia eixe ena paxoulo paidaki na paizei ton kseligwmeno apo thn
peina Mesologgith, rwthste ton skhno8eth. Den htan o Kioumprik). Mia
allh fora eixa paiksei ton Antrea Lonto. Etsi ki etsi rolos - exw thn
entypwsh oti byssodomousa enantion tou Kolokotrwnh alla den 8ymamai sta
sigoura. Kai mia fora thn eixa bgalei me apaggelia "O braxos kai to
kyma".

Post by Sophia
Ax, ap mikra stis kakes suvn0eies! Meta pngiavame va pai3ouem
mpasket, eprpee va les.

Ti mpasket kale? Me ta tsoliadistika? Na phdame kai na exoume meta th
foustanella gia aleksiptwto? San to gnwsto xydaio anekdoto me tis 30
phxes sto spiti...

P.

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Sophia <***@SAPIENCE.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote: Aut argnse v amou er0ei kai to afnsa asxoliasto, kai dev kavei, giati
prpeie va divoume evausmata stov Perikln (evarktnria laktismata 0a
egrafa, alla to alla3a mnv pare3ngn0oume giati ama tou dwsei o ka0evas
mas apo eva laktisma tou Perikln, meta 0a exei polu problnma, ma para
polu problnma...

As poume kati san thn anaparastash ths katalhpshs ths Kalamatas apo ton
Kolokotrwnh, 23 Martiou (elpizw na mh diabazei kanenas Kalabrytinos,
dioti yphrxe megas kaugas poios ksekinhse prwtos).

Leptomereies, gvwrizoume oti n 25n Martiou epilextnke meta apo protasn
tns Amalias gia sumbolikous skopous ki oxi giati ovtws kati egive tote.

ths, kai h Kalamata apeleu8erwnontan. Ka8olou dyskolo (sthn
anaparastash) afou den yphrxe oute enas Tourkos gia deigma, oloi
hrwikoi ellhnes hmaste.

Meta phgainame gia fai (h anapaush tou polemisth, pou lene.)

Ax, ap mikra stis kakes suvn0eies! Meta pngiavame va pai3ouem mpasket,
eprpee va les.

ypoti8etai oti egine. Den exoun monima sthn eisodo ths Kalamatas enan
maskaremeno Kolokotrwnh na leei stous touristes "Plhrwste na
apeleu8erwsoume thn Kalamata"

Xm, mou bazeis idees twra....

Meta exoyv seira oi Krokees, to 3ylokastro kai to Katw Samiko
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sophia <***@SAPIENCE.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Aut argnse v amou er0ei kai to afnsa asxoliasto, kai dev kavei, giati prpeie va divoume evausmata stov Perikln (evarktnria laktismata 0a egrafa, alla to alla3a mnv pare3ngn0oume giati ama tou dwsei o ka0evas mas apo eva laktisma tou Perikln, meta 0a exei polu problnma, ma para polu problnma... Periklhs wrote: > Ma den prokeitai gia eortasmo sygmekrimenh mera, einai monimh > touristikh atraksion. "Elate na riksete to tsai sth 8alassa opws ekanan > oi hrwikoi mas progonoi" (mono pou eseis prepei na plhrwsete gia na > epanalabete kati pou ekeinoi ekanan giati DEN h8elan na plhrwnoun :-) OK, twra ktalabaivw giati oi suzugo tous 0aumazav klp klp. 0a mporousav dnladn va pave va peta3ouv mia balitsa stn 0alassa kapou allou sto tsampa
kai va pouv oti oriste, kapws etsi to ekavav kai oi AHP (tous). > As poume kati san thn anaparastash ths katalhpshs ths Kalamatas apo ton > Kolokotrwnh, 23 Martiou (elpizw na mh diabazei kanenas Kalabrytinos, > dioti yphrxe megas kaugas poios ksekinhse prwtos). Leptomereies, gvwrizoume oti n 25n Martiou epilextnke meta apo protasn tns Amalias gia sumbolikous skopous ki oxi giati ovtws kati egive tote. > paristane ton Kolokotrwnh, malista paliotera htan kai efippos, legane, > mexri pou mia mera gkremotsakisthke apo to alogo h egine kapoio allo > atyxhma kai ektote egine pezikarios. Den kserw an einai alh8eia. Xm, pio pi0avo oti epaye o kosmos va ektrefei aloga kai ti va tov kavouv; Na tov balouv va kaballnsei gaidaro 'n - akoma xeirotera- moulari; Kotsam oplarxngos epi pwlou ovou, de leei. TI efodo va kaveis me to gaidaro; > ths, kai h Kalamata apeleu8erwnontan. Ka8olou dyskolo
(sthn > anaparastash) afou den yphrxe oute enas Tourkos gia deigma, oloi > hrwikoi ellhnes hmaste. Giati dev bazate kavevav axwveuto va kavie tov Touro dioikntn kai va paggelei "t'alogo, t'alogo, Omer Bruwvn, to Souli exoumnse kai mas plakwvei", pou OK, eivia grammevo gia alln surra3n, alla to pveuam metraei. parev0esn: auto telika eivai n ellnvikn bersiov tou Sai3pnrikou "my kingdom for a horse", kleivei n parev0esn. Adika peftan oi koumpouries ston aera dhladh. > Meta phgainame gia fai (h anapaush tou polemisth, pou lene.) Ax, ap mikra stis kakes suvn0eies! Meta pngiavame va pai3ouem mpasket, eprpee va les. > ypoti8etai oti egine. Den exoun monima sthn eisodo ths Kalamatas enan > maskaremeno Kolokotrwnh na leei stous touristes "Plhrwste na > apeleu8erwsoume thn Kalamata" Xm, mou bazeis idees twra....     Meta exoyv seira
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