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Fox hunting
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Graham T
2017-05-15 17:56:43 UTC
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Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.

The cameras then cut to a pen. There must have been two hundred hunting
dogs in there.
Vidcapper
2017-05-16 06:06:42 UTC
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Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.

In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
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Judith
2017-05-16 08:54:17 UTC
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Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.
In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
No pleasure in that.

The hoi polloi can't throw one off whilst watching an animal being torn to
bits.

Tally Ho!
Norman Wells
2017-05-16 09:08:04 UTC
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Post by Judith
Post by Vidcapper
Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.
In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
No pleasure in that.
The hoi polloi can't throw one off whilst watching an animal being torn to
bits.
I wasn't aware that they did. Do you perhaps have any evidence?
Brian Reay
2017-05-16 14:56:18 UTC
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Post by Vidcapper
Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.
In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
To true. Plus, fox hunting isn't about control- it is a very inefficient
to kill foxes- it is about blood lust and cruelty.

If there is a problem with foxes, shoot or poison them.

If you want to chase something with dogs and tear it to shreds if you
catch it, draw lots at take your chances it won't be you who draws the
short straw while your chums chase you.
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Norman Wells
2017-05-16 15:29:08 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
Post by Vidcapper
Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.
In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
To true. Plus, fox hunting isn't about control- it is a very inefficient
to kill foxes- it is about blood lust and cruelty.
I don't think it as actually. It's more about getting out in the fresh
air, the social occasion, the thrill of the chase and the general
unpredictability of it all. Not many are present usually to see any
kill, simply because they're not in the right place at the right time,
so I think it's a bit misjudged to say it's all about blood lust.

But how does any of it affect you in any tangible way anyway? There's a
lot of other nature red in tooth and claw out there that you probably
just ignore.

Also, if you dislike it, isn't it better that it's pretty inefficient?
Fewer cuddly-wuddly foxy-woxies die that way. Meanwhile a lot of people
have had pleasure out of the chase. Why is it any business of yours how
they get it?
Post by Brian Reay
If there is a problem with foxes, shoot or poison them.
I shouldn't think a slow death though poisoning is any fun, nor dying of
wounds from a slightly misplaced shot either. But perhaps you know better.
Post by Brian Reay
If you want to chase something with dogs and tear it to shreds if you
catch it, draw lots at take your chances it won't be you who draws the
short straw while your chums chase you.
No, it's better if it's vermin.
Yellow
2017-05-16 18:43:48 UTC
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Post by Norman Wells
Post by Brian Reay
Post by Vidcapper
Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.
In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
To true. Plus, fox hunting isn't about control- it is a very inefficient
to kill foxes- it is about blood lust and cruelty.
I don't think it as actually. It's more about getting out in the fresh
air, the social occasion, the thrill of the chase and the general
unpredictability of it all. Not many are present usually to see any
kill, simply because they're not in the right place at the right time,
so I think it's a bit misjudged to say it's all about blood lust.
So why is there a need for a fox to be part of the proceedings?
jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
2017-05-16 18:53:20 UTC
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Post by Yellow
Post by Norman Wells
Post by Brian Reay
Post by Vidcapper
Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.
In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
To true. Plus, fox hunting isn't about control- it is a very inefficient
to kill foxes- it is about blood lust and cruelty.
I don't think it as actually. It's more about getting out in the fresh
air, the social occasion, the thrill of the chase and the general
unpredictability of it all. Not many are present usually to see any
kill, simply because they're not in the right place at the right time,
so I think it's a bit misjudged to say it's all about blood lust.
So why is there a need for a fox to be part of the proceedings?
A jew would be MUCH better.
The Peeler
2017-05-16 19:16:26 UTC
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Post by Yellow
Post by Norman Wells
I don't think it as actually. It's more about getting out in the fresh
air, the social occasion, the thrill of the chase and the general
unpredictability of it all. Not many are present usually to see any
kill, simply because they're not in the right place at the right time,
so I think it's a bit misjudged to say it's all about blood lust.
So why is there a need for a fox to be part of the proceedings?
A jew would be MUCH better.
Jews are ALWAYS better and more successful than you, you dumb housebound
psychotic bitch!
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2017-05-16 20:02:22 UTC
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Post by Yellow
So why is there a need for a fox to be part of the proceedings?
A jew would be MUCH better.
Well, AFAIK, none of the two year olds you raped was Jewish.
Norman Wells
2017-05-16 20:38:57 UTC
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Post by Yellow
Post by Norman Wells
Post by Brian Reay
Post by Vidcapper
Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.
In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
To true. Plus, fox hunting isn't about control- it is a very inefficient
to kill foxes- it is about blood lust and cruelty.
I don't think it as actually. It's more about getting out in the fresh
air, the social occasion, the thrill of the chase and the general
unpredictability of it all. Not many are present usually to see any
kill, simply because they're not in the right place at the right time,
so I think it's a bit misjudged to say it's all about blood lust.
So why is there a need for a fox to be part of the proceedings?
To add the unpredictability that adds to the thrill of the chase, or
even create it.
Yellow
2017-05-16 21:22:17 UTC
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Post by Norman Wells
Post by Yellow
Post by Norman Wells
Post by Brian Reay
Post by Vidcapper
Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.
In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
To true. Plus, fox hunting isn't about control- it is a very inefficient
to kill foxes- it is about blood lust and cruelty.
I don't think it as actually. It's more about getting out in the fresh
air, the social occasion, the thrill of the chase and the general
unpredictability of it all. Not many are present usually to see any
kill, simply because they're not in the right place at the right time,
so I think it's a bit misjudged to say it's all about blood lust.
So why is there a need for a fox to be part of the proceedings?
To add the unpredictability that adds to the thrill of the chase, or
even create it.
Could they not just use a drone instead?
AndyW
2017-05-17 06:44:22 UTC
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Post by Norman Wells
I don't think it as actually. It's more about getting out in the fresh
air, the social occasion, the thrill of the chase and the general
unpredictability of it all. Not many are present usually to see any
kill, simply because they're not in the right place at the right time,
so I think it's a bit misjudged to say it's all about blood lust.
That should have been true however after the ban on fox hunting some
hunts carried on scent drag hunting or even human hunting (without the
ripping to bits bit) and quite a few closed down claiming that scent
hunting was not the same.
Post by Norman Wells
Post by Brian Reay
If there is a problem with foxes, shoot or poison them.
It is illegal to poison foxes since other species can take the bait
however some landowners will poison if there are no other species in the
area (usually badgers, boars, stoats, polecats etc)
You can gas them legally but there are no gasses that are approved for
foxes so it is de facto illegal. You can snare a fox in a non-locking
snare but the risks of catching a dog are high so this is very rare
unless your land is remote.
The commonest methods are shooting and live trapping (often followed by
a shot to the head in the trap).
Post by Norman Wells
I shouldn't think a slow death though poisoning is any fun, nor dying of
wounds from a slightly misplaced shot either. But perhaps you know better.
For poisoning see above.
I cannot speak for all but when I fox shoot it is for a specific fox in
a specific area as they are territorial and I prep the area by baiting a
known spot for a week. When it comes to the shooting time (usually a
full moon) the foxes are static and in the open. It is a fixed range
with a zeroed sight so missing is rare.

The thing to note about killing foxes is that it controls the fox that
is killed (obviously) but does not control the territory as there are
are always roaming foxes looking for unoccupied territory. Clearing a
territory often results in a new family in the territory after a month
or so when the urine scent markers fade. Often the best way of dealing
with foxes is to kill one specific troublesome fox, foxes are clever and
wary so deterrence is usually a better way.

Andy
Brian Reay
2017-05-17 10:24:19 UTC
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Post by Norman Wells
Post by Brian Reay
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Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.
In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
To true. Plus, fox hunting isn't about control- it is a very inefficient
to kill foxes- it is about blood lust and cruelty.
I don't think it as actually. It's more about getting out in the fresh
air, the social occasion, the thrill of the chase and the general
unpredictability of it alumal. Not many are present usually to see any
kill, simply because they're not in the right place at the right time,
so I think it's a bit misjudged to say it's all about blood lust.
But how does any of it affect you in any tangible way anyway? There's a
lot of other nature red in tooth and claw out there that you probably
just ignore.
There are many things which 'go on' which don't affect me in any
tangible way but that doesn't mean they should be legal. I tend to be
fairly 'liberal' in allowing adults to do things- I've no issue with
homosexuals, same sex marriage, etc etc. Peoples' religion is their
business. I only object when their actions impacts others adversely, and
that extends to animals.

Killing animals for food or killing vermin humanely is one thing,
killing them cruelly is totally unacceptable.
j***@gmail.com
2017-05-17 10:45:48 UTC
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More cars kill foxes than fox hunting
Phi
2017-05-17 12:59:19 UTC
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More cars kill foxes than fox hunting
Phi
2017-05-17 13:00:39 UTC
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Post by j***@gmail.com
More cars kill foxes than fox hunting
Accidentally
burfordTjustice
2017-05-17 12:06:17 UTC
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On Wed, 17 May 2017 13:00:39 -0000
Post by Phi
Post by j***@gmail.com
More cars kill foxes than fox hunting
Accidentally
Still dead no matter how. Left to rot on the road.
Norman Wells
2017-05-17 11:45:18 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
Post by Norman Wells
Post by Brian Reay
Post by Vidcapper
Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.
In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
To true. Plus, fox hunting isn't about control- it is a very inefficient
to kill foxes- it is about blood lust and cruelty.
I don't think it as actually. It's more about getting out in the fresh
air, the social occasion, the thrill of the chase and the general
unpredictability of it alumal. Not many are present usually to see any
kill, simply because they're not in the right place at the right time,
so I think it's a bit misjudged to say it's all about blood lust.
But how does any of it affect you in any tangible way anyway? There's a
lot of other nature red in tooth and claw out there that you probably
just ignore.
There are many things which 'go on' which don't affect me in any
tangible way but that doesn't mean they should be legal.
Quite. If something affects a lot of people adversely in a tangible way
then it should be illegal. What I'm asking is why someone like you who
is not affected should have any say in whether it's legal or not.
Post by Brian Reay
I tend to be
fairly 'liberal' in allowing adults to do things- I've no issue with
homosexuals, same sex marriage, etc etc. Peoples' religion is their
business. I only object when their actions impacts others adversely, and
that extends to animals.
But it's none of your business. People should be free to do what they
like without interference by busybodies who are unaffected by it.
Post by Brian Reay
Killing animals for food or killing vermin humanely is one thing,
killing them cruelly is totally unacceptable.
There's an awful lot of cruelty out there in the natural world.
Predators eat their prey and don't much care if it's alive or dead, let
alone how it's killed. I don't think humans have any special
responsibility. We've always hunted and always will.

Fox-hunting makes no difference to the overall amount of suffering in
the world anyway, the vast majority of which occurs without your paying
it any attention at all. Next time you eat your cod and chips for
example, think how the cod died. Was it humane? Do you care? If you
do, what are you going to do about it?
Vidcapper
2017-05-17 06:51:35 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
Post by Vidcapper
Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.
In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
To true. Plus, fox hunting isn't about control- it is a very inefficient
to kill foxes- it is about blood lust and cruelty.
If there is a problem with foxes, shoot or poison them.
If you want to chase something with dogs and tear it to shreds if you
catch it, draw lots at take your chances it won't be you who draws the
short straw while your chums chase you.
Plus their are plenty of paedos they could chase instead... ;)
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jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
2017-05-17 13:25:11 UTC
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Post by Vidcapper
Post by Brian Reay
Post by Vidcapper
Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.
In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
To true. Plus, fox hunting isn't about control- it is a very inefficient
to kill foxes- it is about blood lust and cruelty.
If there is a problem with foxes, shoot or poison them.
If you want to chase something with dogs and tear it to shreds if you
catch it, draw lots at take your chances it won't be you who draws the
short straw while your chums chase you.
Plus their are plenty of paedos they could chase instead... ;)
jew pedos such as Baruch 'Barry' Shein....even better :--------)
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2017-05-17 15:11:02 UTC
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Post by Vidcapper
Plus their are plenty of paedos they could chase instead... ;)
jew pedos such as Baruch 'Barry' Shein....even better :--------)
Stop projecting your OWN deviations onto clearly straight people, you filthy
sexually crippled serbian whore!
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YOU, huh?

Brian Reay
2017-05-17 15:04:53 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
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Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
AIUI a majority of foxes are now in cities anyway, and they can hardly
hunt them there.
In any case, you don't need dogs to hunt them - bullets are a lot cheaper.
To true. Plus, fox hunting isn't about control- it is a very inefficient
to kill foxes- it is about blood lust and cruelty.
If there is a problem with foxes, shoot or poison them.
If you want to chase something with dogs and tear it to shreds if you
catch it, draw lots at take your chances it won't be you who draws the
short straw while your chums chase you.
Plus their are plenty of paedos they could chase instead... ;)
True.
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Judith
2017-05-16 08:52:08 UTC
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Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
And of course it is absolutely nothing to do with keeping foxes under control.

It is about the Nasty party supporters having a jolly day out - a nice glass of
alcohol and a toast to the Tory Party - and then go and have an orgasm whilst
you watch an animal being mutilated.

Tally Ho!
Norman Wells
2017-05-16 09:06:44 UTC
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Post by Judith
Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
And of course it is absolutely nothing to do with keeping foxes under control.
It is about the Nasty party supporters having a jolly day out - a nice glass of
alcohol and a toast to the Tory Party - and then go and have an orgasm whilst
you watch an animal being mutilated.
Tally Ho!
And you're against other people having a good time why exactly?
Judith
2017-05-16 16:25:44 UTC
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Post by Norman Wells
Post by Judith
Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
And of course it is absolutely nothing to do with keeping foxes under control.
It is about the Nasty party supporters having a jolly day out - a nice glass of
alcohol and a toast to the Tory Party - and then go and have an orgasm whilst
you watch an animal being mutilated.
Tally Ho!
And you're against other people having a good time why exactly?
No not at all. I hope that they bring back public hangings so that people like
you will be able to enjoy yourself.

However, I suspect that you in fact "enjoy" yourself on a regular basis
already: judging from your posts.
Norman Wells
2017-05-16 16:39:37 UTC
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Post by Judith
Post by Norman Wells
Post by Judith
Post by Graham T
Just watched Teresa May on tv saying that there are far too many foxes
and that they need hunting to keep the numbers under control.
And of course it is absolutely nothing to do with keeping foxes under control.
It is about the Nasty party supporters having a jolly day out - a nice glass of
alcohol and a toast to the Tory Party - and then go and have an orgasm whilst
you watch an animal being mutilated.
Tally Ho!
And you're against other people having a good time why exactly?
No not at all.
Then why are you against it?
Post by Judith
I hope that they bring back public hangings so that people like
you will be able to enjoy yourself.
I didn't realise that's Tory policy too. Best get the Carlsberg in!
Post by Judith
However, I suspect that you in fact "enjoy" yourself on a regular basis
already: judging from your posts.
I am most grateful for your interest.
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