Andrew Wainwright

"Incubus" wrote in message news:ok2p50$kjt$***@dont-email.me...

I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.

I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a while.
It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other up
sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of humour
and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

==

Oh dear. Any idea what caused his death?

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

saracene

2017-07-11 15:45:34 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a while.
It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other up
sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of humour
and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.
==
Oh dear. Any idea what caused his death?

I think his last post was June 9th, just over a month ago.

JNugent

2017-07-12 02:15:39 UTC

Ah... He wasn't all that old either (AIUI).

RIP, Wainwright. I cannot say we agreed on much but you were certainly
an amusing read at times.

Incubus

2017-07-12 08:27:03 UTC

No. He was only 44.

https://www.familynotices24.co.uk/edt/view/4395945/andrew-richard-wainwright

Ophelia

2017-07-12 09:05:16 UTC

I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to bed
and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is how I
learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a while.
It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other up
sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of humour and
conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.
==
Oh dear. Any idea what caused his death?

No. He was only 44.

https://www.familynotices24.co.uk/edt/view/4395945/andrew-richard-wainwright

==

Thanks.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

grssgreener

2017-07-17 10:20:13 UTC

wainwright certainly created more in his life than some crap
working for capita, marketing hospital carparks

or any of the f*cking dross in government atm , or most of the
management public sector

g***@walkerlincoln.co.uk

2017-07-17 15:02:09 UTC

A lifelong avoidance of personal responsibility.

Ophelia

2017-07-17 20:55:53 UTC

A lifelong avoidance of personal responsibility.

==

So I am beginning to realise :(

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

m***@btopenworld.com

2017-07-11 15:29:19 UTC

A tragedy waiting to happen I'm afraid!

Drug addict, heavy smoker, alcoholic, in and out of rehab as long as I knew of him. What other destiny awaited him?

He was always going to pull himself together! I'm afraid I lost patience and in my last communication with him on here,I warned that he would be found one winter morning face down in the snow. That was a warning I didn't wish that on him but there are some people who just can't be helped and he was one of them.

Graham T

2017-07-11 19:11:48 UTC

A tragedy waiting to happen I'm afraid!
Drug addict, heavy smoker, alcoholic, in and out of rehab as long as I knew of him.

Yes he was a Human being.

saracene

2017-07-11 19:22:45 UTC

A tragedy waiting to happen I'm afraid!
Drug addict, heavy smoker, alcoholic, in and out of rehab as long as I knew of him.

Yes he was a Human being.

Don't speak ill of the dead.

Farmer Giles

2017-07-11 19:41:07 UTC

A tragedy waiting to happen I'm afraid!
Drug addict, heavy smoker, alcoholic, in and out of rehab as long as I knew of him.

Yes he was a Human being.

Don't speak ill of the dead.

He was happy to do so with the likes of Enoch Powell, or others whose
views didn't tally with his own.

cobweb

2017-07-12 05:20:26 UTC

A tragedy waiting to happen I'm afraid!
Drug addict, heavy smoker, alcoholic, in and out of rehab as long as I knew of him.

Yes he was a Human being.

not much room for them here

saracene

2017-07-11 22:00:08 UTC

A tragedy waiting to happen I'm afraid!
Drug addict, heavy smoker, alcoholic, in and out of rehab as long as I knew of him.

Rehab costs a lot. Did he get on the NHS?

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g***@walkerlincoln.co.uk

2017-07-17 15:00:59 UTC

A tragedy waiting to happen I'm afraid!
Drug addict, heavy smoker, alcoholic, in and out of rehab as long as I knew of him. What other destiny awaited him?
He was always going to pull himself together! I'm afraid I lost patience and >in my last communication with him on here,I warned that he would be found one >winter morning face down in the snow. That was a warning I didn't wish that on >him but there are some people who just can't be helped and he was one of them.

The only help that would have been of any use, would simply not be permitted under HR legislation:- a boot camp on a Royal Navy-quarantined island, where he would follow a strict regime of PT and healthy eating, with a work schedule, enforced hygiene and no access to drugs or alcohol for 18 months.

Incubus

2017-07-17 15:18:10 UTC

Post by g***@walkerlincoln.co.uk

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he
went to bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on
Facebook, which is how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each
other up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap
sense of humour and conspiracy theories were a source of
entertainment.

A tragedy waiting to happen I'm afraid!
Drug addict, heavy smoker, alcoholic, in and out of rehab as long
as I knew of him. What other destiny awaited him?
He was always going to pull himself together! I'm afraid I lost
patience and >in my last communication with him on here,I warned
that he would be found one >winter morning face down in the snow.
That was a warning I didn't wish that on >him but there are some
people who just can't be helped and he was one of them.

The only help that would have been of any use, would simply not be
permitted under HR legislation:- a boot camp on a Royal
Navy-quarantined island, where he would follow a strict regime of PT
and healthy eating, with a work schedule, enforced hygiene and no
access to drugs or alcohol for 18 months.

That would keep a person clean and sober for eighteen months. What is
going to keep them clean and sober when they return to society?

m***@btopenworld.com

2017-07-17 20:18:16 UTC

Post by g***@walkerlincoln.co.uk
The only help that would have been of any use, would simply not be
permitted under HR legislation:- a boot camp on a Royal
Navy-quarantined island, where he would follow a strict regime of PT
and healthy eating, with a work schedule, enforced hygiene and no
access to drugs or alcohol for 18 months.

That would keep a person clean and sober for eighteen months. What is
going to keep them clean and sober when they return to society?

The fear of a repeat 18 months on that island followed by a further 18 months.

Police street cautions to not a bit of good either except that it gives the cop an opportunity to search him in the hope of finding something worthwhile.

If he must be let go, give him 20 lashes first.

At least they will keep a low profile.

Incubus

2017-07-18 09:07:03 UTC

Post by g***@walkerlincoln.co.uk
The only help that would have been of any use, would simply not
be permitted under HR legislation:- a boot camp on a Royal
Navy-quarantined island, where he would follow a strict regime of
PT and healthy eating, with a work schedule, enforced hygiene and
no access to drugs or alcohol for 18 months.

That would keep a person clean and sober for eighteen months. What
is going to keep them clean and sober when they return to society?

The fear of a repeat 18 months on that island followed by a further 18 months.

That might work for people whose excessive consumption can be stopped if
sufficient consequences become readily apparent. However, it won't stop
everyone.

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Police street cautions to not a bit of good either except that it
gives the cop an opportunity to search him in the hope of finding
something worthwhile.
If he must be let go, give him 20 lashes first.

I don't think that would make a blind bit of difference other than
providing gratification for the sanctimonious.

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
At least they will keep a low profile.

I doubt it.

True Blue

2017-07-18 09:15:06 UTC

That would keep a person clean and sober for eighteen months. What is
going to keep them clean and sober when they return to society?

Hopefully, the memories of how worthless they used to feel, in contrast to how they now feel. Being able to wake of a morning and feel energised and full of vigour, rather than dispairing at the hopelessness of not having the will to "break the chain".

abelard

2017-07-11 15:55:18 UTC

shame...decent intelligent fellow dealing with an often
too crude and too agressive a society...

Graham T

2017-07-11 19:12:26 UTC

shame...decent intelligent fellow dealing with an often
too crude and too agressive a society...

It's not often I agree with you.

Dan S. MacAbre

2017-07-11 16:27:36 UTC

He may have answers to some of his speculations now.

Phi

2017-07-11 18:39:52 UTC

He may have answers to some of his speculations now.

But he won't be able to process them now.

Graham T

2017-07-11 19:10:47 UTC

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

Farmer Giles

2017-07-11 19:46:40 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

abelard

2017-07-11 20:06:19 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,

yes, but you're not even approximately bright

Post by Farmer Giles
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

indeed, why alter your habits eh...

did you 'feel' threatened by him as well?

Farmer Giles

2017-07-11 20:25:05 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,

yes, but you're not even approximately bright

Seeing as you're about as bright as a Toc H lamp, your opinion is worth
even less than the rest of you.

Post by Farmer Giles
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

indeed, why alter your habits eh...
did you 'feel' threatened by him as well?

About as 'threatened' as Denis Healey's dead sheep.

Now, off you run to Google and get a bit more shallow knowledge to copy
and paste, there's a good little usenet squatter.

abelard

2017-07-11 21:29:20 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,

yes, but you're not even approximately bright

Seeing as you're about as bright as a Toc H lamp, your opinion is worth
even less than the rest of you.

Post by Farmer Giles
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

indeed, why alter your habits eh...
did you 'feel' threatened by him as well?

About as 'threatened' as Denis Healey's dead sheep.
Now, off you run to Google and get a bit more shallow knowledge to copy
and paste, there's a good little usenet squatter.

bad enough you are mediocre...but unfortunately you have no class
or creativity...

perhaps your sheep can help you

Farmer Giles

2017-07-12 06:41:04 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,

yes, but you're not even approximately bright

Seeing as you're about as bright as a Toc H lamp, your opinion is worth
even less than the rest of you.

Post by Farmer Giles
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

indeed, why alter your habits eh...
did you 'feel' threatened by him as well?

About as 'threatened' as Denis Healey's dead sheep.
Now, off you run to Google and get a bit more shallow knowledge to copy
and paste, there's a good little usenet squatter.

bad enough you are mediocre...but unfortunately you have no class
or creativity...
perhaps your sheep can help you

I can understand why you're upset, you've just lost one of the few
people on here who thinks you've got more than half a brain. Never mind,
you've always got your delusions to sustain you.

BTW, if you've got time to waste defending Wainwright, why don't you
deal with the questions you've run away from in that thread you started
on education - 'school, the factory method'?

Looks like you've sounded off again with half-baked opinions and once
more have had to run away and hide.

abelard

2017-07-12 09:22:44 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,

yes, but you're not even approximately bright

Seeing as you're about as bright as a Toc H lamp, your opinion is worth
even less than the rest of you.

Post by Farmer Giles
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

indeed, why alter your habits eh...
did you 'feel' threatened by him as well?

About as 'threatened' as Denis Healey's dead sheep.
Now, off you run to Google and get a bit more shallow knowledge to copy
and paste, there's a good little usenet squatter.

bad enough you are mediocre...but unfortunately you have no class
or creativity...
perhaps your sheep can help you

I can understand why you're upset, you've just lost one of the few
people on here who thinks you've got more than half a brain. Never mind,
you've always got your delusions to sustain you.
BTW, if you've got time to waste defending Wainwright, why don't you
deal with the questions you've run away from in that thread you started
on education - 'school, the factory method'?
Looks like you've sounded off again with half-baked opinions and once
more have had to run away and hide.

you have no class

Farmer Giles

2017-07-12 10:18:59 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,

yes, but you're not even approximately bright

Seeing as you're about as bright as a Toc H lamp, your opinion is worth
even less than the rest of you.

Post by Farmer Giles
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

indeed, why alter your habits eh...
did you 'feel' threatened by him as well?

About as 'threatened' as Denis Healey's dead sheep.
Now, off you run to Google and get a bit more shallow knowledge to copy
and paste, there's a good little usenet squatter.

bad enough you are mediocre...but unfortunately you have no class
or creativity...
perhaps your sheep can help you

I can understand why you're upset, you've just lost one of the few
people on here who thinks you've got more than half a brain. Never mind,
you've always got your delusions to sustain you.
BTW, if you've got time to waste defending Wainwright, why don't you
deal with the questions you've run away from in that thread you started
on education - 'school, the factory method'?
Looks like you've sounded off again with half-baked opinions and once
more have had to run away and hide.

you have no class

Yes, classless, that's me - unlike your under-class self.

Now, Mr bloviating under-class, when are you going to answer those
questions waiting for you in that education thread you started, or are
you just going to keep running away?

abelard

2017-07-12 10:28:14 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,

yes, but you're not even approximately bright

Seeing as you're about as bright as a Toc H lamp, your opinion is worth
even less than the rest of you.

Post by Farmer Giles
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

indeed, why alter your habits eh...
did you 'feel' threatened by him as well?

About as 'threatened' as Denis Healey's dead sheep.
Now, off you run to Google and get a bit more shallow knowledge to copy
and paste, there's a good little usenet squatter.

bad enough you are mediocre...but unfortunately you have no class
or creativity...
perhaps your sheep can help you

I can understand why you're upset, you've just lost one of the few
people on here who thinks you've got more than half a brain. Never mind,
you've always got your delusions to sustain you.
BTW, if you've got time to waste defending Wainwright, why don't you
deal with the questions you've run away from in that thread you started
on education - 'school, the factory method'?
Looks like you've sounded off again with half-baked opinions and once
more have had to run away and hide.

you have no class

Yes, classless, that's me - unlike your under-class self.
Now, Mr bloviating under-class, when are you going to answer those
questions waiting for you in that education thread you started, or are
you just going to keep running away?

you have no style...

Farmer Giles

2017-07-12 11:47:38 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,

yes, but you're not even approximately bright

Seeing as you're about as bright as a Toc H lamp, your opinion is worth
even less than the rest of you.

Post by Farmer Giles
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

indeed, why alter your habits eh...
did you 'feel' threatened by him as well?

About as 'threatened' as Denis Healey's dead sheep.
Now, off you run to Google and get a bit more shallow knowledge to copy
and paste, there's a good little usenet squatter.

bad enough you are mediocre...but unfortunately you have no class
or creativity...
perhaps your sheep can help you

I can understand why you're upset, you've just lost one of the few
people on here who thinks you've got more than half a brain. Never mind,
you've always got your delusions to sustain you.
BTW, if you've got time to waste defending Wainwright, why don't you
deal with the questions you've run away from in that thread you started
on education - 'school, the factory method'?
Looks like you've sounded off again with half-baked opinions and once
more have had to run away and hide.

you have no class

Yes, classless, that's me - unlike your under-class self.
Now, Mr bloviating under-class, when are you going to answer those
questions waiting for you in that education thread you started, or are
you just going to keep running away?

you have no style...

I have several stiles.

abelard

2017-07-12 11:50:14 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,

yes, but you're not even approximately bright

Seeing as you're about as bright as a Toc H lamp, your opinion is worth
even less than the rest of you.

Post by Farmer Giles
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

indeed, why alter your habits eh...
did you 'feel' threatened by him as well?

About as 'threatened' as Denis Healey's dead sheep.
Now, off you run to Google and get a bit more shallow knowledge to copy
and paste, there's a good little usenet squatter.

bad enough you are mediocre...but unfortunately you have no class
or creativity...
perhaps your sheep can help you

I can understand why you're upset, you've just lost one of the few
people on here who thinks you've got more than half a brain. Never mind,
you've always got your delusions to sustain you.
BTW, if you've got time to waste defending Wainwright, why don't you
deal with the questions you've run away from in that thread you started
on education - 'school, the factory method'?
Looks like you've sounded off again with half-baked opinions and once
more have had to run away and hide.

you have no class

Yes, classless, that's me - unlike your under-class self.
Now, Mr bloviating under-class, when are you going to answer those
questions waiting for you in that education thread you started, or are
you just going to keep running away?

you have no style...

I have several stiles.

you live in a mental sty

Farmer Giles

2017-07-12 12:33:38 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,

yes, but you're not even approximately bright

Seeing as you're about as bright as a Toc H lamp, your opinion is worth
even less than the rest of you.

Post by Farmer Giles
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

indeed, why alter your habits eh...
did you 'feel' threatened by him as well?

About as 'threatened' as Denis Healey's dead sheep.
Now, off you run to Google and get a bit more shallow knowledge to copy
and paste, there's a good little usenet squatter.

bad enough you are mediocre...but unfortunately you have no class
or creativity...
perhaps your sheep can help you

I can understand why you're upset, you've just lost one of the few
people on here who thinks you've got more than half a brain. Never mind,
you've always got your delusions to sustain you.
BTW, if you've got time to waste defending Wainwright, why don't you
deal with the questions you've run away from in that thread you started
on education - 'school, the factory method'?
Looks like you've sounded off again with half-baked opinions and once
more have had to run away and hide.

you have no class

Yes, classless, that's me - unlike your under-class self.
Now, Mr bloviating under-class, when are you going to answer those
questions waiting for you in that education thread you started, or are
you just going to keep running away?

you have no style...

I have several stiles.

you live in a mental sty

Well I certainly have you stymied.

saracene

2017-07-11 22:05:58 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

What would I say if Burford died i wonder.

Basil Jet

2017-07-12 01:22:20 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

What would I say if Burford died i wonder.

"Reverse to be certain"

c***@googlemail.com

2017-07-13 19:00:00 UTC

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

You're still the charming human being you ever were then Farmer Giles!

Farmer Giles

2017-07-13 20:04:38 UTC

Post by c***@googlemail.com

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

You're still the charming human being you ever were then Farmer Giles!

Oh gawd, look what's escaped from its cave.

Incubus

2017-07-14 12:27:38 UTC

Post by c***@googlemail.com

Post by Incubus
I just learnt that he passed away on Friday. I understand he went to
bed and didn't wake up. I was friends with him on Facebook, which is
how I learned of it.
I was wondering what he is up to as I hadn't seen him here for a
while. It'll be strange without him. He and I used to wind each other
up sometimes but I'll miss his presence here. His madcap sense of
humour and conspiracy theories were a source of entertainment.

Oh dear, one of the few decent posters on here. RIP

He was a waste of space and rations, and the fact that he's dead now
won't change that. I said that to him, and about him, when he was alive,
so it would be dishonest to say anything else now.

You're still the charming human being you ever were then Farmer Giles!

I argued with Andy along similar lines but have since arrived at the
point of view that it wasn't so much a case of making lifestyle choices
but rather suffering with an illness. I remember some of the self-made
videos he put on Youtube when he was going through what seemed like a
particularly bad episode; I don't think anyone chooses to live like that.

m***@btopenworld.com

2017-07-14 13:08:41 UTC

Post by c***@googlemail.com
You're still the charming human being you ever were then Farmer Giles!

Don't make it sound too bad!

He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

saracene

2017-07-17 07:10:07 UTC

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left. Naturally a lot of teachers do hate their lives.

m***@btopenworld.com

2017-07-17 07:24:26 UTC

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left. Naturally a lot of teachers do hate their lives.

This one doesn't!

saracene

2017-07-17 07:40:28 UTC

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left. Naturally a lot of teachers do hate their lives.

This one doesn't!

Not now, obviously.

Incubus

2017-07-17 08:24:53 UTC

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left.

I wouldn't argue with that; I for one resent paying taxes while others
milk the system for all it's worth.

grssgreener

2017-07-17 09:02:51 UTC

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left.

I wouldn't argue with that; I for one resent paying taxes while others
milk the system for all it's worth.

you resent him dying at 44?

Incubus

2017-07-17 09:10:01 UTC

Post by grssgreener

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left.

I wouldn't argue with that; I for one resent paying taxes while others
milk the system for all it's worth.

you resent him dying at 44?

Where did I say that?

Go back to whining about your ex-bosses.

Dan S. MacAbre

2017-07-17 09:10:34 UTC

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left.

I wouldn't argue with that; I for one resent paying taxes while others
milk the system for all it's worth.

I think it helps to think of it as a kind of insurance. If they didn't
get the dole, they'd just break into your house and rob your stuff.

Incubus

2017-07-17 09:46:08 UTC

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left.

I wouldn't argue with that; I for one resent paying taxes while others
milk the system for all it's worth.

I think it helps to think of it as a kind of insurance. If they didn't
get the dole, they'd just break into your house and rob your stuff.

A pragmatic way of looking at it.

saracene

2017-07-17 14:41:59 UTC

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left.

I wouldn't argue with that; I for one resent paying taxes while others
milk the system for all it's worth.

I think it helps to think of it as a kind of insurance. If they didn't
get the dole, they'd just break into your house and rob your stuff.

A pragmatic way of looking at it.

It's a fairly obvious one.

Incubus

2017-07-17 15:16:52 UTC

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left.

I wouldn't argue with that; I for one resent paying taxes while others
milk the system for all it's worth.

I think it helps to think of it as a kind of insurance. If they didn't
get the dole, they'd just break into your house and rob your stuff.

A pragmatic way of looking at it.

It's a fairly obvious one.

Not necessarily. If left wing politicians stopped feeding the sense of
entitlement of the underlasses and instead we instilled good values
backed by a judicial system that functioned properly, we'd probably have
a nicer society and save money.

Dan S. MacAbre

2017-07-17 20:49:53 UTC

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left.

I wouldn't argue with that; I for one resent paying taxes while others
milk the system for all it's worth.

I think it helps to think of it as a kind of insurance. If they didn't
get the dole, they'd just break into your house and rob your stuff.

A pragmatic way of looking at it.

It's a fairly obvious one.

Not necessarily. If left wing politicians stopped feeding the sense of
entitlement of the underlasses

'underlasses' - I like that :-)

and instead we instilled good values

Post by Incubus
backed by a judicial system that functioned properly, we'd probably have
a nicer society and save money.

But people being what they are, i.e. nice as long as they are kept fed
and entertained (panem et circenses), we need to do that to keep us safe.

saracene

2017-07-17 14:39:40 UTC

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left.

I wouldn't argue with that; I for one resent paying taxes while others
milk the system for all it's worth.

Do you hate your work so much? As for me, I don't much envy the life of a junkie on the dole. Am I missing something worthwhile? Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Incubus

2017-07-17 15:13:52 UTC

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 2:08:43 PM UTC+1,

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left.

I wouldn't argue with that; I for one resent paying taxes while
others milk the system for all it's worth.

Do you hate your work so much? As for me, I don't much envy the life
of a junkie on the dole. Am I missing something worthwhile? Render
unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

I don't hate my work but I would certainly prefer to not pay for other
people's lifestyle choices including subsiding baby factories, people
who fraudulently claim disability living allowance or those who would
rather eat from soup kitchens and buy Nike trainers with their dole profit.

saracene

2017-07-17 15:18:48 UTC

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 2:08:43 PM UTC+1,

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left.

I wouldn't argue with that; I for one resent paying taxes while
others milk the system for all it's worth.

Do you hate your work so much? As for me, I don't much envy the life
of a junkie on the dole. Am I missing something worthwhile? Render
unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Do you think they are happier than you are?

Incubus

2017-07-17 15:21:32 UTC

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 2:08:43 PM UTC+1,

Post by m***@btopenworld.com
Don't make it sound too bad!
He did enjoy 44 years of retirement. Most of us won't!

Politics of envy can be as strong on the right as on the left.

I wouldn't argue with that; I for one resent paying taxes while
others milk the system for all it's worth.

Do you hate your work so much? As for me, I don't much envy the life
of a junkie on the dole. Am I missing something worthwhile? Render
unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Do you think they are happier than you are?

No, which is part of the insanity of it. As a society, who are we helping?

cobweb

2017-07-12 05:19:53 UTC

if he were back on drugs he'd be all over here

cobweb

2017-07-12 07:17:39 UTC

he became a tory just before he died

that's very sad

saracene

2017-07-13 11:05:15 UTC

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c***@googlemail.com

2017-07-13 18:56:54 UTC

So sorry to hear that. I had him on my Google circle after he added me, having been a regular hear a fair few years ago now and had some interesting conversations with him but didn't really talk outside of this group. I remember his drug use being considered comment-worthy as a non-sequitur during debates, and it’s sad to hear he struggled with it so and it took his life in the end. You were a proper friend to him from the sounds of it and did what you could, but addiction is such a powerful thing, there's no magic cure is there. I am sure he would have appreciated that you cared about him, even if some tough words were said and perhaps pride got in the way of being able to convey that appreciation to you at the end.

Basil Jet

2017-07-14 03:24:02 UTC

This isn't that bad...

grssgreener

2017-07-17 10:24:40 UTC