Post by Anthony MarshPost by clavigerPost by Anthony MarshPost by Pamela BrownPost by Anthony MarshPost by Pamela BrownPost by John McAdamsPost by Pamela BrownPost by Mitch ToddPost by Pamela BrownPost by clavigerDo You Believe Her?
http://youtu.be/w-cBEg-5KvM
I met her when she came to the Minneapolis Public Library to talk about
her book "JFK: the last dissenting witness." At that time I thought there
was a glass partition between the driver and passenger sections of the
limo. I asked her if she saw that or not, and she said 'no'. Further
research confirmed that she was correct.
I think Jean is a viable witness.
Which version of Jean Hill are you talking about? The original, WFAA
and DCSD affidavit Jean Hill, or the one that sorta evolved later?
You may be falling prey to the fallacy of false alternatives. I think
she's held her own...
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jhill.htm
Do you think it's a problem, for example, that she later claimed to
have seen a Grassy Knoll gunman, for example, when she told WBAP on
the day of the assassination that she didn't see any shooter?
.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
Guess we'll have to agree-to-disagree. I think Jean Hill is doing her
best. You don't.
I think she is a kook for just standing up and looking around while
everyone else, including her friend are getting down on the ground or
ducking for cover.
Not her buddy Mary Moorman, who was standing next to her.
Mary was seated on the ground trying to pull her down.
VOLUNTARY STATEMENT. Not Under Arrest Form No. 86
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
COUNTY OF DALLAS, TEXAS
Before me, the undersigned authority, on this the 22nd day of November
A.D. 1963 personally appeared Mary Ann Moorman, Address: 2832
Ripplewood, Dallas. Age 31, Phone No. DA 1-9390.
Deposes and says Mrs. Jean Hill and I were standing on the grass by the
park on Elm Street between the underpass and the corner of Elm & Houston.
I had a Polaroid Camera [sic] with me and was intending to take pictures
of President Kennedy and the motorcade. As the motorcade started toward me
I took two pictures. As President Kennedy was opposite me I took a picture
of him. As I snapped the picture of President Kennedy, I heard a shot ring
out. President Kennedy kind of slumped over. Then I heard another shot
ring out and Mrs. Kennedy jumped up in the car and said, "My God he had
been shot." When I heard these shots ring out, I fell to the ground to
keep from being hit myself. I heard three or four shots in all. After the
pictures I took were developed, the Picture [sic] of President Kennedy
showed him slumped over. When the pictures were developed, they came out
real light. These pictures have been turned over to Officers [sic]
investigating this incident.
/s/ Mary Ann Moorman
Subscribed and sworn to before me on this the 22nd day of Nov A. D. 1963
/s/ Aleen Davis
Notary Public, Dallas County, Texas
(1) Jean Hill, statement made to the Dallas Police Department (22nd
November, 1963)
Mary Moorman started to take a picture. We were looking at the
president and Jackie in the back seat... Just as the president looked up
two shots rang out and I saw the president grab his chest and fell forward
across Jackie's lap... There was an instant pause between two shots and
the motorcade seemingly halted for an instant. Three or four more shots
rang out and the motorcade sped away. I saw some men in plain clothes
shooting back but everything was a blur and Mary was pulling on my leg
saying "Get down their shooting".
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This Witness Statement supports the Mortal Error Theory.
Nice try, wise guy. How?
She doesn't say where the shot came from.
If you add up her shots you get 4-6. You can't admit that.
You sound like you are in a brain fog and this info is all new
to you. Do you inhale then post or exhale while typing fast
and furious?
Here is Jean Hill's Statement on 11/22/63:
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VOLUNTARY STATEMENT. Not Under Arrest Form No. 86
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
COUNTY OF DALLAS, TEXAS
Before me, the undersigned authority, on this the
22nd day of November A.D. 1963 personally appeared
Jean Hill, Address 9402 Bluffcreek, Dallas, Texas Age 32 ,
Phone No. EV1-7419
Deposes and says:
Mary and I were wanting to take some pictures of the
President so we purposely tried to find a place that
was open where no people was around and we had
been standing half way down toward the underpass
on Elm Street on the south side. We were the only
people in that area and we were standing right at the
curb.
The Presidents [sic] car came around the corner and
it was over on our side of the street. Just as Mary
Moorman started to take a picture we were looking
at the president and Jackie in the backseat and they
were looking at a little dog between them. Just as the
president looked up toward us two shots rang out and
I saw the President grab his chest and fall forward
across Jackies lap and she fell across his back and said
"My God he has been shot".
There was an instant pause between the first two shots
and the motorcade seemingly halted for an instant and
three or four more shots rang out and the motorcade
sped away.
I thought I saw some men in plain clothes shooting back
but everything was such a blur and Mary was pulling on
my leg saying "Get down thery [sic] are shooting".
I looked across the street and up the hill and saw a man
running toward the monument and I started running over
there. By the time I got up to the rail road tracks some
policeman that I suppose were [sic] in the motorcade or
near by had also arrived and was turning us back and as
I came back down the hill Mr. Featherstone of the Times
Herald had gotten to Mary and ask her for her picture she
had taken of the President, and he brought us to the press
room downn [sic] at the Sheriffs office and ask to stay.
/s/ Jean Hill
Subscribed and sworn to before me on this
the 22nd day of Nov A. D. 1963
/s/ Aleen Davis
Notary Public, Dallas County, Texas
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hillj.htm
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Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot
which you believe you heard?
Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause
and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed
me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was
going on here and I thought, because I guess from the TV
and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back.
To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot
back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought,
well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't
know.
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Jean Hill mentions SSA shooting back in both statements.