Remembering the Noble War Dead

An annual tradition I've maintained for some time...
cross-posted to groups related to British Isles history/culture
and nobility,and the deceased...

This is by far and away the most obnoxious contribution to ATR every
year.

I think your predictable reaction to my posting holds that title.

In death your "nobles" were no more noble than the next man.

If it did not focus specifically on persons relevant to a.t.r
there would be no reason to post it to a.t.r.

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities of all the men
listed.It represent the intersection of the groups to which it is
cross-posted.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

Charles Ellson

2015-04-23 22:23:07 UTC

On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 22:15:50 +0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein
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Post by soupdragon
So why cross post it to scs, where their 'relevance' is no more than any
other Scot killed in the wars? What, in particular, merits their
'adoration' by you over any other Scot who also died but you fail to
salute?

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities of all the men
listed.It represent the intersection of the groups to which it is
cross-posted.

Get tae Freuchie, Epstein.

soupdragon

2015-04-23 23:17:54 UTC

An annual tradition I've maintained for some time...
cross-posted to groups related to British Isles history/culture
and nobility,and the deceased...

This is by far and away the most obnoxious contribution to ATR
every year.

I think your predictable reaction to my posting holds that title.

In death your "nobles" were no more noble than the next man.

If it did not focus specifically on persons relevant to a.t.r
there would be no reason to post it to a.t.r.

So why cross post it to scs, where their 'relevance' is no more than
any other Scot killed in the wars? What, in particular, merits their
'adoration' by you over any other Scot who also died but you fail to
salute?

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities of all the
men listed.It represent the intersection of the groups to which it is
cross-posted.

You didn't answer the question. Let me repeat it for you:

What, in particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any other
Scot who also died but you fail to salute?

Louis Epstein

2015-04-23 23:51:42 UTC

An annual tradition I've maintained for some time...
cross-posted to groups related to British Isles history/culture
and nobility,and the deceased...

This is by far and away the most obnoxious contribution to ATR
every year.

I think your predictable reaction to my posting holds that title.

In death your "nobles" were no more noble than the next man.

If it did not focus specifically on persons relevant to a.t.r
there would be no reason to post it to a.t.r.

So why cross post it to scs, where their 'relevance' is no more than
any other Scot killed in the wars? What, in particular, merits their
'adoration' by you over any other Scot who also died but you fail to
salute?

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities of all the
men listed.It represent the intersection of the groups to which it is
cross-posted.

What, in particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any other
Scot who also died but you fail to salute?

I did answer the question.They are the Scots relevant to a.t.r,
from which this is cross-posted.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

soupdragon

2015-04-24 16:55:04 UTC

Post by soupdragon
So why cross post it to scs, where their 'relevance' is no more than
any other Scot killed in the wars? What, in particular, merits their
'adoration' by you over any other Scot who also died but you fail to
salute?

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities of all the
men listed.It represent the intersection of the groups to which it is
cross-posted.

What, in particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any other
Scot who also died but you fail to salute?

I did answer the question.They are the Scots relevant to a.t.r,
from which this is cross-posted.

No you didn't. You answered an entirely different question. I didn't
ask you why it was relevant to a.t.r. Try again.

Louis Epstein

2015-04-29 04:35:36 UTC

Post by soupdragon
So why cross post it to scs, where their 'relevance' is no more than
any other Scot killed in the wars? What, in particular, merits their
'adoration' by you over any other Scot who also died but you fail to
salute?

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities of all the
men listed.It represent the intersection of the groups to which it is
cross-posted.

What, in particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any other
Scot who also died but you fail to salute?

I did answer the question.They are the Scots relevant to a.t.r,
from which this is cross-posted.

No you didn't. You answered an entirely different question. I didn't
ask you why it was relevant to a.t.r. Try again.

If they didn't represent the intersection of relevance to both s.c.s and
a.t.r I wouldn't be cross-posting to the two groups.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

soupdragon

2015-04-29 17:34:07 UTC

Post by soupdragon
So why cross post it to scs, where their 'relevance' is no more
than any other Scot killed in the wars? What, in particular,
merits their 'adoration' by you over any other Scot who also died
but you fail to salute?

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities of all
the men listed.It represent the intersection of the groups to
which it is cross-posted.

What, in particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any other
Scot who also died but you fail to salute?

I did answer the question.They are the Scots relevant to a.t.r,
from which this is cross-posted.

No you didn't. You answered an entirely different question. I didn't
ask you why it was relevant to a.t.r. Try again.

If they didn't represent the intersection of relevance to both s.c.s
and a.t.r I wouldn't be cross-posting to the two groups.

Explain the relevance to s.c.s.

Louis Epstein

2015-04-29 23:07:47 UTC

Post by soupdragon
So why cross post it to scs, where their 'relevance' is no more
than any other Scot killed in the wars? What, in particular,
merits their 'adoration' by you over any other Scot who also died
but you fail to salute?

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities of all
the men listed.It represent the intersection of the groups to
which it is cross-posted.

What, in particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any other
Scot who also died but you fail to salute?

I did answer the question.They are the Scots relevant to a.t.r,
from which this is cross-posted.

No you didn't. You answered an entirely different question. I didn't
ask you why it was relevant to a.t.r. Try again.

If they didn't represent the intersection of relevance to both s.c.s
and a.t.r I wouldn't be cross-posting to the two groups.

Explain the relevance to s.c.s.

Already done.
Do you have problems realizing that people relevant to a.t.r
can also be relevant to s.c.s?

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

Charles Ellson

2015-04-30 00:00:40 UTC

On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 23:07:47 +0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein

Post by soupdragon
So why cross post it to scs, where their 'relevance' is no more
than any other Scot killed in the wars? What, in particular,
merits their 'adoration' by you over any other Scot who also died
but you fail to salute?

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities of all
the men listed.It represent the intersection of the groups to
which it is cross-posted.

What, in particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any other
Scot who also died but you fail to salute?

I did answer the question.They are the Scots relevant to a.t.r,
from which this is cross-posted.

No you didn't. You answered an entirely different question. I didn't
ask you why it was relevant to a.t.r. Try again.

If they didn't represent the intersection of relevance to both s.c.s
and a.t.r I wouldn't be cross-posting to the two groups.

Explain the relevance to s.c.s.

Already done.
Do you have problems realizing that people relevant to a.t.r
can also be relevant to s.c.s?

Do you have a problem realising you're not welcome in s.c.s ?

Nicholas Benjamin

2015-04-30 20:41:07 UTC

Post by Charles Ellson
On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 23:07:47 +0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein

Post by soupdragon
So why cross post it to scs, where their 'relevance' is no more
than any other Scot killed in the wars? What, in particular,
merits their 'adoration' by you over any other Scot who also died
but you fail to salute?

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities of all
the men listed.It represent the intersection of the groups to
which it is cross-posted.

What, in particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any other
Scot who also died but you fail to salute?

I did answer the question.They are the Scots relevant to a.t.r,
from which this is cross-posted.

No you didn't. You answered an entirely different question. I didn't
ask you why it was relevant to a.t.r. Try again.

If they didn't represent the intersection of relevance to both s.c.s
and a.t.r I wouldn't be cross-posting to the two groups.

Explain the relevance to s.c.s.

Already done.
Do you have problems realizing that people relevant to a.t.r
can also be relevant to s.c.s?

Do you have a problem realising you're not welcome in s.c.s ?

That's a remarkably dumb thing to say on a post that's crossposted to groups where he is welcome. Ever heard of the Streisand effect?

It's even dumber given the activity level on this list. Today there have been posts on two issues: this, and one idiot going on about how he won't do porn. Prior to that all activity has been non-Scots-related commentary by the no-porn guy and a bunch of stuff in Spanish that is apparently vaguely related to religion. The last message that was on-topic prior to this thread was posted on the 12th, and was a call for all the humans still on the list to go to Facebook.

Now if you wanted to use this as a springboard to talk about the Nobility's role in modern Scotland, or criticize them, or even demand a Scots-only-list, that would make sense. Demanding the only guy on this list whose actually talking about shit that is even vaguely related to Scottish culture shut the fuck up, by cross-posting to numerous groups where people who like are gonna read it, OTOH, is dumber then paste.

Nick

soupdragon

2015-04-30 23:59:10 UTC

Post by Charles Ellson
On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 23:07:47 +0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein

Post by soupdragon
So why cross post it to scs, where their 'relevance' is no
more than any other Scot killed in the wars? What, in
particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any other
Scot who also die

Post by soupdragon
but you fail to salute?

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities of
all the men listed.It represent the intersection of the
groups to which it is cross-posted.

What, in particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any
othe

Post by soupdragon
Scot who also died but you fail to salute?

I did answer the question.They are the Scots relevant to a.t.r,
from which this is cross-posted.

No you didn't. You answered an entirely different question. I
didn't ask you why it was relevant to a.t.r. Try again.

If they didn't represent the intersection of relevance to both
s.c.s and a.t.r I wouldn't be cross-posting to the two groups.

Explain the relevance to s.c.s.

Already done.
Do you have problems realizing that people relevant to a.t.r
can also be relevant to s.c.s?

Do you have a problem realising you're not welcome in s.c.s ?

That's a remarkably dumb thing to say on a post that's crossposted to
groups where he is welcome.

Given that he's the one who initiated the crosspost to a Scottish
culture group and caused the offence in the first place (and repeatedly
does so each year despite requests for him to stop) perhaps you should
direct your ire at Louis.

Post by Nicholas Benjamin
It's even dumber given the activity level on this list. Today there
have been posts on two issues: this, and one idiot going on about how
he won't do porn. Prior to that all activity has been
non-Scots-related commentary by the no-porn guy and a bunch of stuff
in Spanish that is apparently vaguely related to religion. The last
message that was on-topic prior to this thread was posted on the 12th,
and was a call for all the humans still on the list to go to Facebook.

Firstly, this is not a list, it is a Usenet news group called
soc.culture.scottish. Secondly activity level is irrelevant. Besides
we like it quiet. Thirdly, you are not the one who decides what is
on-topic for the group. The group does that through its charter, FAQ
and custom and practice

Post by Nicholas Benjamin
Now if you wanted to use this as a springboard to talk about the
Nobility's role in modern Scotland, or criticize them, or even demand
a Scots-only-list,

Nothing to do with a Scots-only group. This group is for those
interested in Scottish culture, irrespective of nationality. Scotland
has a long military history that is held in high esteem by its people
including the sacrifice made by all who died in the wars. This guy
doesn't even read the group yet insists on crossposting to it every
Armastice Day a post that suggests the only Scots who died in war that
matter and are worth saluting are a few of the priveledged class and
the rest of the Scottish war dead don't even merit a mention. Which
is extremely offensive to the vast majority of Scottish people.

Post by Nicholas Benjamin
Demanding the only guy on
this list whose actually talking about shit that is even vaguely
related to Scottish culture shut the fuck up, by cross-posting to
numerous groups where people who like are gonna read it, OTOH, is
dumber then paste.

He's the one who initiated the crosspost. Take it up with him. But just
to putting Scottish culture into context, Robert Burns is the national
poet and to quote him - The rank is but a guinea stamp, the man's the
man for a that. Anyone interested in the nobility know where to find
it. It doesn't need to be, and shouldn't be crossposted to group where
he already knows from previous experience, is unwelcome and causes
offence.

Charles Ellson

2015-05-01 01:02:37 UTC

Post by Charles Ellson
On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 23:07:47 +0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein

Post by soupdragon
So why cross post it to scs, where their 'relevance' is no
more than any other Scot killed in the wars? What, in
particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any other
Scot who also die

Post by soupdragon
but you fail to salute?

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities of
all the men listed.It represent the intersection of the
groups to which it is cross-posted.

What, in particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any
othe

Post by soupdragon
Scot who also died but you fail to salute?

I did answer the question.They are the Scots relevant to a.t.r,
from which this is cross-posted.

No you didn't. You answered an entirely different question. I
didn't ask you why it was relevant to a.t.r. Try again.

If they didn't represent the intersection of relevance to both
s.c.s and a.t.r I wouldn't be cross-posting to the two groups.

Explain the relevance to s.c.s.

Already done.
Do you have problems realizing that people relevant to a.t.r
can also be relevant to s.c.s?

Do you have a problem realising you're not welcome in s.c.s ?

That's a remarkably dumb thing to say on a post that's crossposted to
groups where he is welcome.

Also, I did not crosspost it :-

Post by soupdragon
Newsgroups: soc.culture.scottish
Subject: Re: Remembering the Noble War Dead
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 01:00:40 +0100

Post by Nicholas Benjamin
Now if you wanted to use this as a springboard to talk about the
Nobility's role in modern Scotland, or criticize them, or even demand
a Scots-only-list,

Nicholas Benjamin

2015-05-02 00:31:33 UTC

Post by Charles Ellson
On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 23:07:47 +0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein

Post by soupdragon
So why cross post it to scs, where their 'relevance' is no
more than any other Scot killed in the wars? What, in
particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any other
Scot who also die

Post by soupdragon
but you fail to salute?

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities of
all the men listed.It represent the intersection of the
groups to which it is cross-posted.

What, in particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any
othe

Post by soupdragon
Scot who also died but you fail to salute?

I did answer the question.They are the Scots relevant to a.t.r,
from which this is cross-posted.

No you didn't. You answered an entirely different question. I
didn't ask you why it was relevant to a.t.r. Try again.

If they didn't represent the intersection of relevance to both
s.c.s and a.t.r I wouldn't be cross-posting to the two groups.

Explain the relevance to s.c.s.

Already done.
Do you have problems realizing that people relevant to a.t.r
can also be relevant to s.c.s?

Do you have a problem realising you're not welcome in s.c.s ?

That's a remarkably dumb thing to say on a post that's crossposted to
groups where he is welcome.

Post by Nicholas Benjamin
Now if you wanted to use this as a springboard to talk about the
Nobility's role in modern Scotland, or criticize them, or even demand
a Scots-only-list,

How terrible. A person interested in the history of a demographic group bothers to remember which ones of those people died in the war. This does not imply that everyone else who died is an evil person who is not worthy of memory, and therefore complaining about it is disrespecting the sacrifice of all war dead.

Just because you don't like people doesn't mean they magically stop being Scots, and their sacrifices stop being worthy of being remembered.

It's fucking 2015. Usenet Charters have been obsolete for more then a decade, which is probably why that it took you a half-dozen stupid, small-minded, and cruel posts to bother quoting one. You are a troll sir, of the worst kind. Your insistence on ending all discussion on this list vaguely related to Scotland is the reason the only thing that goes on on this list is flame wars. You have set out to destroy that which you claim to be defending, and you have succeeded magnificently.

Congratulations.

Nick

soupdragon

2015-05-04 18:24:28 UTC

Post by Charles Ellson
On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 23:07:47 +0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein

Post by soupdragon
So why cross post it to scs, where their 'relevance' is
no more than any other Scot killed in the wars? What, in
particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over any
other Scot who also die

Post by soupdragon
but you fail to salute?

I post it to the soc.culture groups of the nationalities
of all the men listed.It represent the intersection of the
groups to which it is cross-posted.

What, in particular, merits their 'adoration' by you over
any othe