Is Roman Catholicism a FALSE GOSPEL

Post by b***@gmail.com
https://www.youtube.com/

More video spam. More inter-Christian squabbling.

Yawn.

Kevin R

Castrate The Eternal Conspirators As We Hang FagZ

2017-10-25 19:33:52 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
https://www.youtube.com/

More video spam. More inter-Christian squabbling.

If he had to turn a pagan dominion into a kingdom of God there would only be ONE branch of government in that kingdom. If this is not heresy then what is it? Saint Paul himself didn't advocate this kind of government.

Post by Kevrob
Yawn.
Kevin R

Bob

2017-10-25 19:38:36 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
https://www.youtube.com/

More video spam. More inter-Christian squabbling.

It's too obvious to anyone who's paying any attention to you that what
you're really mad about is you know there is no way you will ever stop
me from posting here in a.a., or any other newsgroup for that matter.

You're mad because you know that you will never be able to stop me
from posting anywhere I want to post.

Basically, you're mad because you know you're a loser.

<g>
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

John Locke

2017-10-25 20:19:32 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
https://www.youtube.com/

More video spam. More inter-Christian squabbling.

...why would we want to stop you from posting ? You exemplify in great
detail the utterly nonsensical and poisonous nature of religion. It's
like putting up a warning sign at toxic waste dump.

Bob

2017-10-25 23:02:04 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
https://www.youtube.com/

More video spam. More inter-Christian squabbling.

Why would we want to stop you from posting ?

I don't know. You'll have to ask Kev.

You exemplify in great
detail the utterly nonsensical and poisonous nature of religion.

Well, you would think that whether I was posting anything or not.

It's all part of your religious brainwashing.

Why don't you ever think before you hit that SEND button?

Now go away, and stop bothering me.
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Kevrob

2017-10-25 23:41:00 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
https://www.youtube.com/

More video spam. More inter-Christian squabbling.

Why would we want to stop you from posting ?

I don't know. You'll have to ask Kev.

Bob's a troll. I point it out. If ISPs bothered to enforce
terms of service in regard to USENET anymore, he'd be long
gone, until such time as he found another account and started
spamming again. Duncan feels he is exempt from common courtesy
on the net, an opinion he shares with all the other trolls.

You exemplify in great
detail the utterly nonsensical and poisonous nature of religion.

Bob turns the group FAQ upside down: the troll telling
the legitimate member of the group to get lost.

Kevin R

Bob

2017-10-26 03:20:56 UTC

Post by Kevrob
Bob's a troll.

Nope. I'm not trying to convert anybody here in a.a. In fact, it's just the
opposite. I'm telling you why you will never be converted to Christianity.

I post links to videos for my own benefit. I don't care if any atheist ever
watches them or not. Like I said, I know you cannot be converted.
There's only one or two regulars here that I have not read a post from
them where they have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Everyone else has.
Many times. That's how I know that they will never be converted.
If I were trying to convert anyone, I'd be long gone from here. But like
I said, I'm just here for my own "Ayn Randian" selfish benefit. Without
going into details, I'll just mention 1 Corinthians 6:2 & 3, and leave
it up
to the reader to make up his or her own mind about what I'm saying.

Besides, whenever I want to watch one of the videos again, I don't have
to use Google to look it up. I just find where I posted the link, click it,
and sit back and watch the video again. Simple as 1-2-3.

So, the next time you think about pinning your troll label on me, you'll
know why you're wrong for doing so.

But, I know you will anyway. That's all due to your religious brainwashing.
You must pin a label on anyone who thinks different from you, or else
you'll go freaking crazy.
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Kevrob

2017-10-26 05:20:38 UTC

Post by Kevrob
Bob's a troll.

Nope. I'm not trying to convert anybody here in a.a. In fact, it's just the
opposite. I'm telling you why you will never be converted to Christianity.
I post links to videos for my own benefit.

I have conjectured in the past that you are just "counting coup,"
rather than trying to convince anybody.

[quote]

He's bragging. He's counting coup. "I'm of the elect,
and you're not! Neener-neener-neener!"

[/quote]- 3 Jun 2017 Message-ID:
<fc5aa405-c70d-4ff5-94b0-***@googlegroups.com>

You responded, in part, with:

[quote]

............................I'm also explaining to others
who are here maybe for the first time, why atheism is just
a self-delusion, engineered by God, so that what He has
predestined to happen, will happen. Nothing can stop it
from happening. "You sealed your own fate."

[/quote] 3 JUN 2017 Message-ID:
<ogugfo$9o1$***@gioia.aioe.org>

So you have been "talking past" the legitimate participants
in the group to a theoretical audience of curious lurkers,
tl warn the away from reprobates like us. You are out to
sabotage the group.

Post by Bob
I don't care if any atheist ever
watches them or not. Like I said, I know you cannot be converted.
There's only one or two regulars here that I have not read a post from
them where they have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

Blasphemy: the imaginary "crime' with no victim.

Post by Bob
Everyone else has.
Many times. That's how I know that they will never be converted.
If I were trying to convert anyone, I'd be long gone from here. But like
I said, I'm just here for my own "Ayn Randian" selfish benefit.

Ms Rand would have dismissed your mysticism-obsessed self in a trice.

Post by Bob
Without
going into details, I'll just mention 1 Corinthians 6:2 & 3, and leave
it up
to the reader to make up his or her own mind about what I'm saying.

Yawn. Bible babble, which contradicts itself, frequently.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/judge.html

Post by Bob
Besides, whenever I want to watch one of the videos again, I don't have
to use Google to look it up. I just find where I posted the link, click it,
and sit back and watch the video again. Simple as 1-2-3.

So, too lazy to create a folder of links, put it in cloud storage,
such as Dropbox, or on your own drive?

Post by Bob
So, the next time you think about pinning your troll label on me, you'll
know why you're wrong for doing so.
But, I know you will anyway. That's all due to your religious brainwashing.

My "religious brainwashing" was pro-Christian, but I "deprogrammed"
myself.

Your attitude and motivations make you a troll. You don't like -
even hate - atheists, though I can't see why. According to you,
we are just as your imaginary cosmic tyrant decided to make us.
Why do you hate what "the Lord has made?"

Post by Bob
You must pin a label on anyone who thinks different from you, or else
you'll go freaking crazy.

I don't go stomping into the nearest Reformed or Presbyterian
web forum and post encomiums to atheism "for my own selfish
reasons" `cause that would mark me as a massive dick.

You know what those are, don't you? I imagine you see one
in the mirror each time you shave.

Kevin R

Bob

2017-10-26 12:48:18 UTC

I<snip several straw man fallacies>

You start out with "I". That's all anyone needs to see in order to know
just how narcissistic you truly are.

As usual, you're only talking to yourself, or rather in this case, to
the straw men you have built up.

They can be quickly dismissed as unrelated and insignificant.

Time and time again you fail to have anything extensive or far-reaching
to say.

Instead you continuously spew out more and more of your impertinent
garbage, that is meant only to please you.

Your whole life must be one complete self-centered failure.

I, on the other hand, get to relish in knowing how miserable a miscreant
you are when you contemplate your ineffectiveness in ridding me of,
apparently, the only life you have.

I have succeeded. You have failed.

You see how that works?

<smirk>
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

duke

2017-10-29 21:59:55 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

b***@gmail.com

2017-10-30 14:05:18 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.

But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.

That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.

And I know you can't.

Christianity is a faith-based religion.

Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.

That's why you are not a Christian.

--
"These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules."
[Matthew 15:8, 9]

Kevrob

2017-10-30 14:26:28 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Duncan and Earl, and all others who pretend to the name "Christian":

alt.atheism is not the forum to hash out who is a "True Christian"
and who is not. Find some corner of the net to work this out among
yourselves, and leave the atheists and other freethinkers here out
of it.

Kevin R

Bob

2017-10-30 15:29:17 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

alt.atheism is not the forum to hash out who is a "True Christian"
and who is not. Find some corner of the net to work this out among
yourselves, and leave the atheists and other freethinkers here out
of it.

"Once again, Earl proves he is not only uncultured, but
utterly immune to any suggestion that he might, you know,
actually learn something from this group."

I'm only doing what you "suggested".

Are you going back on your word now?

Should we listen to what you say, or not?

Make up your mind.
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Kevrob

2017-10-30 15:41:50 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

"Once again, Earl proves he is not only uncultured, but
utterly immune to any suggestion that he might, you know,
actually learn something from this group."
I'm only doing what you "suggested".

That is a total non sequitor. I haven't suggested any theists
debate each otehr in this forum.

From time to time, those making outrageous claims are told by
the atheists and skeptics in the group to "put up or shut up"
about the existence of some ghod or other supernatural beastie.
Encourage spats between Catholics and Protestants wouldn't be that.

Take your nonsense elsewhere.

Kevin R

Andrew

2017-10-30 16:03:27 UTC

Post by Kevrob
Take your nonsense elsewhere.
Kevin R

I appreciate your posts, Kevin. Why? Because I am a theist. And the
fact that alt.atheism must employ a 'thought policeman' is evidence
that atheism cannot defend itself on an intellectual level only, but
must resort to strong arm tactics to rid themselves of those who
challenge their false paradigm. Which simply adds to the
evidence that--> there really IS a most awesome One.

Thank you, Kevin!

~Andrew

Bob

2017-10-30 16:13:59 UTC

Post by Kevrob
Take your nonsense elsewhere.
Kevin R

I appreciate your posts, Kevin. Why? Because I am a theist. And the
fact that alt.atheism must employ a 'thought policeman' is evidence that
atheism cannot defend itself on an intellectual level only, but
must resort to strong arm tactics to rid themselves of those who
challenge their false paradigm. Which simply adds to the evidence
that--> there really IS a most awesome One.
Thank you, Kevin!
~Andrew

Once again, Andrew has proven his ability to articulate precisely what
the rest of us are secretly thinking, but unable to put into words.

+1

Andrew

2017-10-30 16:29:41 UTC

Post by Kevrob
Take your nonsense elsewhere.
Kevin R

I appreciate your posts, Kevin. Why? Because I am a theist. And the
fact that alt.atheism must employ a 'thought policeman' is evidence that
atheism cannot defend itself on an intellectual level only, but
must resort to strong arm tactics to rid themselves of those who
challenge their false paradigm. Which simply adds to the evidence
that--> there really IS a most awesome One.
Thank you, Kevin!
~Andrew

Once again, Andrew has proven his ability to articulate precisely what
the rest of us are secretly thinking, but unable to put into words.
+1

All glory to the blessed One, our Creator.

And thanks again Kevin, for helping the
truth to come out.

There really IS a most awesome One.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-10-30 20:16:29 UTC

There really IS a most awesome One.
________

Yes, thank you Charles Darwin for one the most important discoveries ever and making biology make sense.

Andrew

2017-10-31 04:28:38 UTC

Post by Andrew
There really IS a most awesome One.

Yes.

Post by Andrew
________
Yes, thank you Charles Darwin for one the
most important discoveries ever and making
biology make sense.

"We must concede that there are presently no
detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution
of any biochemical or cellular system, only a
variety of wishful speculations."
~ Franklin M. Harold, biochemist

hypatiab7

2017-10-31 17:55:33 UTC

Post by Kevrob
Take your nonsense elsewhere.
Kevin R

I appreciate your posts, Kevin. Why? Because I am a theist. And the
fact that alt.atheism must employ a 'thought policeman' is evidence that
atheism cannot defend itself on an intellectual level only, but
must resort to strong arm tactics to rid themselves of those who
challenge their false paradigm. Which simply adds to the evidence
that--> there really IS a most awesome One.
Thank you, Kevin!
~Andrew

Once again, Andrew has proven his ability to articulate precisely what
the rest of us are secretly thinking, but unable to put into words.
+1

Proselytizing is against our newsgroup FAQ/Charter. You are simply rude.
Religious nonsense deleted. I've also blocked your message so I don't
have to see it again. I stopped reading it once I saw what it was.

Andrew

2017-11-01 22:40:58 UTC

I've also blocked your message so I don't have to see it again.
I stopped reading it once I saw what it was.

The above are tactics of those who are unwilling to address
evidence that exposes their cherished deception. They shut
their eyes, plug their ears and run. They thus testify that they
are *willingly deceived*, which suggests that atheism itself
is a deception. Which by reason would also tell the thinking
person that---> there really ~is~ a Creator.

Thank you.

~ Andrew

Atlatl Axolotl

2017-11-01 23:57:34 UTC

I've also blocked your message so I don't have to see it again.
I stopped reading it once I saw what it was.

.> The above are tactics of those who are unwilling to address
.> evidence that exposes their cherished deception. They shut
.> their eyes, plug their ears and run.

Quoth the Andrew who inevitably runs when I suggest
talking about the morality of a God who would act the
way the Bible says Andrew's God did in the Garden, and
again during the Flood.

.> They thus testify that they
.> are *willingly deceived*, which suggests that atheism itself
.> is a deception. Which by reason would also tell the thinking

Post by Andrew
person that---> there really ~is~ a Creator.

Sort of like you running when I point out that by
your "logic", the way we treat Jahnu and Jai Maharaj
would tell the thinking person that ---> there really ~is~ a Lord Krishna.

A2

Post by Andrew
Thank you.
~ Andrew

Andrew

2017-11-02 08:47:36 UTC

I've also blocked your message so I don't have to see it again.
I stopped reading it once I saw what it was.

You don't understand Him, nevertheless--> He is.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> They thus testify that they
.> are *willingly deceived*, which suggests that atheism itself
.> is a deception. Which by reason would also tell the thinking

Post by Andrew
person that---> there really ~is~ a Creator.

Sort of like you running when I point out that by
your "logic", the way we treat Jahnu and Jai Maharaj
would tell the thinking person that ---> there really ~is~ a Lord Krishna.

There is > a Creator.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
A2

Post by Andrew
Thank you.
~ Andrew

hypatiab7

2017-11-04 09:37:01 UTC

I've also blocked your message so I don't have to see it again.
I stopped reading it once I saw what it was.

You don't understand Him, nevertheless--> He is.

You still haven't provided any evidence to back this up.
Until you do, you have nothing to say that would interest
any atheist.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> They thus testify that they
.> are *willingly deceived*, which suggests that atheism itself
.> is a deception. Which by reason would also tell the thinking

Post by Andrew
person that---> there really ~is~ a Creator.

Sort of like you running when I point out that by
your "logic", the way we treat Jahnu and Jai Maharaj
would tell the thinking person that ---> there really ~is~ a Lord Krishna.

There is a Creator.

Prove it. No Bible and no personal faith. If you can't do this,
stop bothering us.

Andrew

2017-11-04 14:50:23 UTC

Post by Andrew
There is a Creator.

Prove it.

It is proven by the evidence that is all over the place.

Post by hypatiab7
No Bible and no personal faith.

You must find out for yourself and be persuaded in
your own mind.

Post by hypatiab7
If you can't do this, stop bothering us.

The truth is always disturbing to those who reject it.

hypatiab7

2017-11-04 23:13:46 UTC

Post by Andrew
<>

Post by Andrew
There is a Creator.

Prove it.

It is proven by the evidence that is all over the place.

For instance? Simple existence isn't proof of how something
came into existence. I can look at a rock and through geology
know how it came to exist. I can see two children with their
parents and know through biology how those kids came to exist.
Beyond that you have proof and evidence of nothing. You can't
even provide evidence that your god exists.

Post by hypatiab7
No Bible and no personal faith.

You must find out for yourself and be persuaded in
your own mind.

Post by hypatiab7
If you can't do this, stop bothering us.

The truth is always disturbing to those who reject it.

Smiler

2017-11-05 03:42:20 UTC

Post by Andrew
<>

Post by Andrew
There is a Creator.

Prove it.

It is proven by the evidence that is all over the place.

That evidence is what?

Post by hypatiab7
No Bible and no personal faith.

You must find out for yourself and be persuaded in your own mind.

The old theist circularity.."You have to believe to believe."

Post by hypatiab7
If you can't do this, stop bothering us.

The truth is always disturbing to those who reject it.

Like you do, Androol.

--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

---
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https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Mitchell Holman

2017-11-02 02:09:51 UTC

I've also blocked your message so I don't have to see it again.
I stopped reading it once I saw what it was.

The above are tactics of those who are unwilling to address
evidence that exposes their cherished deception.

Post some evidence and we can discuss it.
So far all you have done is DENY evidence.

hypatiab7

2017-11-04 09:23:30 UTC

I've also blocked your message so I don't have to see it again.
I stopped reading it once I saw what it was.

'Fraid not, Andyroo. I'm just tired of you repeating yourself and quoting
from your book of myths.

John Locke

2017-11-04 16:39:24 UTC

I've also blocked your message so I don't have to see it again.
I stopped reading it once I saw what it was.

....*willingly deceived* ??? WTF is that ? Do you sit around all day
making up ambiguous terms ? There's no deception. There's simply
no verifiable evidence for you creator thingy. Damn Androol, even my
old cow in the back pasture has caught wind that there's something
stinky about your "creator" scenario.

Andrew

2017-11-04 21:40:27 UTC

There's simply no verifiable evidence for you creator thingy.

You need to think very carefully and objectively
here.

There are basically only --two-- origin scenarios.

1. The entire Universe including the life therein
created itself.

~~~ or ~~~

2. The entire Universe including the life therein
are the result of creation by a super awesome
Creator.

Since scenario number one is completely contrary
to the established and known *laws of science*, as
well as to -->simple common sense...we therefore
consider and conclude: Creation to be the correct
scenario to explain our origins.

The only reason that one would reject the obvious
conclusion above is if they placed more value on
a personal, or collective ''philosophical bias'' than
on -->the truth.

"A commonsense interpretation of the facts suggests
that a super-intellect has monkeyed with physics, as
well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are
no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The
numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so
overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost
*beyond question*." ~ Hoyle, astrophysicist

a322x1n

2017-11-04 22:20:05 UTC

There's simply no verifiable evidence for you creator thingy.

<snip> Creationist and ID nonsense, why repost? </snip>

Learn the truth:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-c
reationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

<http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/2014/12/19/intelligent-design-stil
l-dead/>

<http://tinyurl.com/kwyrtku>

<https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2017/08/07/a-n-wilson-stale-unor
iginal-banal-cliche-ridden-hack/>

<http://tinyurl.com/ybu9u4et>

<http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danthropology/2014/08/ken-hams-10-facts-tha
t-prove-creationism-debunked/>

<http://tinyurl.com/hor4bam>

Modern Christian: Someone who can take time
out from blasting evolution as "perpetrated fraud"
and "junk science" to demand the latest medical
advances from evolutionary biology be used on them
when THEY get sick.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District>

<http://tinyurl.com/bmxa4rc>

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-t
o-creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

<https://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/philosop/creation.htm>

<http://tinyurl.com/kzzmt4g>

<http://www.skepticblog.org/2013/08/28/stephen-meyers-fumbling-bumbling
-amateur-cambrian-follies/>

<http://tinyurl.com/grmdhtv>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=stephen+myers>

<http://tinyurl.com/zlcp8u9>

<http://donaldprothero.com/quotes.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/hp2vd4v>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=Lee+Strobel%27s>

<http://tinyurl.com/zbl54ww>

<http://tinyurl.com/j9nkey5>

<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zvyyhxn>

<http://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/>

<http://tinyurl.com/c72j7wv>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_replication>

<http://tinyurl.com/goxgec9>

<https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-ber
linski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-answe
rs-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?_
r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-debun
ked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-fu
ture-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-t
hink-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=macarthur>

<http://tinyurl.com/jenrqkq>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

Mitchell Holman

2017-11-05 01:57:58 UTC

There's simply no verifiable evidence for you creator thingy.

3.

Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie
who was his own father can make you live forever if
you eat his flesh and telepathecally tell him you
accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil
force from your soul that is present in humanity
because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake
to eat from a magical tree - yep, makes perfect sense.

Atlatl Axolotl

2017-11-05 04:07:57 UTC

.> > There's simply no verifiable evidence for you creator thingy.
.> You need to think very carefully and objectively
.> here.

Now there's irony for you...
.> There are basically only --two-- origin scenarios.

.> 1. The entire Universe including the life therein
.> created itself.

Nope. You're creating a false agency. The universe
no more "created itself", than chemicals in a reaction
"react themselves". Things exist, processes proceed.
No "self-creation" involved.
.> ~~~ or ~~~
.>
.> 2. The entire Universe including the life therein
.> are the result of creation by a super awesome
.> Creator.
.> Since scenario number one is completely contrary
.> to the established and known *laws of science*,

Your argument might be more compelling if you didn't
flee every time you're asked to specify which "established laws"
are violated, and specifically how they are flouted.

Of course, it's never too late. How about here:

And once you've laid that out for us, your next task is
to explain why the actual scientists who hold these
views are, by your lights, somehow amazingly ignorant
of those "established laws":

.> as well as to -->simple common sense...

If "simple common sense" is your criterion,
you're going to have to throw out quantum
mechanics and special and general relativity.

Which will leave you with an even more false
idea of the universe.

.> we therefore
.> consider and conclude: Creation to be the correct
.> scenario to explain our origins.
.> The only reason that one would reject the obvious
.> conclusion above is if they placed more value on
.> a personal, or collective ''philosophical bias'' than
.> on -->the truth.

Well, either that or the fact that your arguments, as
presented by you, are -->bogus.

For the reasons given.

.> "A commonsense interpretation of the facts suggests
.> that a super-intellect has monkeyed with physics, as .
.> well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are
.> no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The
.> numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so
.> overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost
.> *beyond question*." ~ Hoyle, astrophysicist

"The creationist is a sham religious person who,
curiously, has no true sense of religion. In the
language of religion, it is the facts we observe in
the world around us that must be seen to constitute
the words of God. Documents, whether the Bible,
Qur'an or those writings that held such force for
Velikovsky, are only the words of men. To prefer
the words of men to those of God is what one can
mean by blasphemy".

~ Hoyle, astrophysicist

Atlatl Axolotl

Andrew

2017-11-05 04:20:39 UTC

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> > There's simply no verifiable evidence for you creator thingy.
.> You need to think very carefully and objectively
.> here.
Now there's irony for you...
.> There are basically only --two-- origin scenarios.
.> 1. The entire Universe including the life therein
.> created itself.
Nope. You're creating a false agency. The universe
no more "created itself", than chemicals in a reaction
"react themselves".

Chemical reactions have never resulted in something
that is alive.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Things exist, processes proceed.
No "self-creation" involved.
.> ~~~ or ~~~
.>
.> 2. The entire Universe including the life therein
.> are the result of creation by a super awesome
.> Creator.
.> Since scenario number one is completely contrary
.> to the established and known *laws of science*,
Your argument might be more compelling if you didn't
flee every time you're asked to specify which "established laws"
are violated, and specifically how they are flouted.
And once you've laid that out for us, your next task is
to explain why the actual scientists who hold these
views are, by your lights, somehow amazingly ignorant
.> as well as to -->simple common sense...
If "simple common sense" is your criterion,
you're going to have to throw out quantum
mechanics and special and general relativity.
Which will leave you with an even more false
idea of the universe.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> we therefore

.> consider and conclude: Creation to be the correct
.> scenario to explain our origins.
.> The only reason that one would reject the obvious
.> conclusion above is if they placed more value on
.> a personal, or collective ''philosophical bias'' than
.> on -->the truth.
Well, either that or the fact that your arguments, as
presented by you, are -->bogus.
For the reasons given.
.> "A commonsense interpretation of the facts suggests
.> that a super-intellect has monkeyed with physics, as .
.> well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are
.> no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The
.> numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so
.> overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost
.> *beyond question*." ~ Hoyle, astrophysicist
"The creationist is a sham religious person who,
curiously, has no true sense of religion. In the
language of religion, it is the facts we observe in
the world around us that must be seen to constitute
the words of God. Documents, whether the Bible,
Qur'an or those writings that held such force for
Velikovsky, are only the words of men. To prefer
the words of men to those of God is what one can
mean by blasphemy". ~ Hoyle, astrophysicist
Atlatl Axolotl

Irreverend Dave

2017-11-05 03:12:53 UTC

I've also blocked your message so I don't have to see it again.
I stopped reading it once I saw what it was.

The above are tactics of those who are unwilling to address
evidence that exposes their cherished deception.

No Andrew, they are the tactics of those who are tired of invasive trolls
such as yourself posting nonsense about some imaginary sky daddy for
which you have never offered one single shred of unambiguous, empirical
evidence in the entire time you've trolled this group.

Post by Andrew
They shut
their eyes, plug their ears and run. They thus testify that they
are *willingly deceived*, which suggests that atheism itself
is a deception. Which by reason would also tell the thinking
person that---> there really ~is~ a Creator.
Thank you.
~ Andrew

The only persons who are deceived here are the ones who believe myths and
legends over what can be observed. That means you Andrew. Of course the
reason for your deception is obvious. You no doubt grew up in a very
religious family and have been brainwashed from birth.

You really need to watch this video...

--
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist
in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

Atlatl Axolotl

2017-10-30 20:07:04 UTC

Post by Kevrob
Take your nonsense elsewhere.
Kevin R

.> I appreciate your posts, Kevin. Why? Because I am a theist. And the
.> fact that alt.atheism must employ a 'thought policeman' is evidence
.> that atheism cannot defend itself on an intellectual level only, but
.> must resort to strong arm tactics to rid themselves of those who
.> challenge their false paradigm. Which simply adds to the
.> evidence that--> there really IS a most awesome One.

'course, our pet Hindus, Jahnu and Jai Marahaj get exactly
the same treatment here, so by Andrew Logic, that simply
adds to the evidence that Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva
are responsible for the creation and maintenance of this universe.

As I have pointed out to you before.

I don't seem to recall your disputing it, either.

aa

Post by Andrew
Thank you, Kevin!
~Andrew

Kevrob

2017-10-30 21:49:12 UTC

Post by Kevrob
Take your nonsense elsewhere.
Kevin R

On what planet are mere words "strong arm tactics?"

Maybe if you believe in magic, and think incantations have an
effect on the physical world.

What kind of tactics are calling damnation, hellfire and other
tortures down on nonbelievers, especially by people who believe
those to be real things?

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> to rid themselves of those who
.> challenge their false paradigm. Which simply adds to the
.> evidence that--> there really IS a most awesome One.
'course, our pet Hindus, Jahnu and Jai Marahaj get exactly
the same treatment here, so by Andrew Logic, that simply
adds to the evidence that Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva
are responsible for the creation and maintenance of this universe.
As I have pointed out to you before.
I don't seem to recall your disputing it, either.
aa

Thanks, AtAx!

We never get a reasonable response to "Why do you post where you and
your proselytizing are unwanted? Do you see nonbelievers doing that
in your [fill in the name of woo-woo belief] forums? Do you want
atheist trolls investing your groups? You are supposed to be treating
others the way you would be treated, right?"

Kevin R

b***@gmail.com

2017-10-31 02:10:53 UTC

Post by Kevrob
Take your nonsense elsewhere.
Kevin R

On what planet are mere words "strong arm tactics?"

When words such as "Find some corner of the net to work this out among
yourselves, and leave the atheists and other freethinkers here out
of it.", and "Take your nonsense elsewhere.", are used in a medium where
written words are the only means of correspondence available, viz. a text-only
newsgroup on the Internet, with no smiley-face emoticons showing, then I
believe most people would interpret that as a "strong arm tactic".

But since you are now disclaiming that perception in the reading of the
words, then we are free to disregard your posts, and ignore your drivel
as meaningless tripe and pointless garbage, which is something I planned
on doing anyway.

Kevrob

2017-10-31 15:49:35 UTC

Post by Kevrob
Take your nonsense elsewhere.
Kevin R

On what planet are mere words "strong arm tactics?"

Balderdash. I never even threatened to netcop you, and get your
Usenet provider to TOS you. Trust me, if I thought you wouldn't be
back online from another IP address w/another email address,
likely spoofed, in the time it takes for a Calvinist to condemn
somebody, I'd consider doing it.

Post by b***@gmail.com
But since you are now disclaiming that perception in the reading of the
words, then we are free to disregard your posts, and ignore your drivel
as meaningless tripe and pointless garbage, which is something I planned
on doing anyway.

The easiest way to avoid my posts is to stop trolling the group.

Kevin R

Bob

2017-10-31 22:04:12 UTC

Post by Kevrob
The easiest way to avoid my posts is to stop trolling the group.

Not going to happen.

The easiest way to avoid my posts is to stop reading them.

Tell me again why you want me to leave, and I'll tell you why
that doesn't apply to me.
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Kevrob

2017-10-31 22:13:46 UTC

Post by Kevrob
The easiest way to avoid my posts is to stop trolling the group.

Not going to happen.
The easiest way to avoid my posts is to stop reading them.
Tell me again why you want me to leave, and I'll tell you why
that doesn't apply to me.

[quote]

The Cat-Herding Rules and Regulations of alt.atheism and Some Information

1. All are welcome in the newsgroup, whether they're atheists or not, as long as they are not trolls.
2. Proselytizing of ANY religion is NOT welcome! (Those guilty of this bad nettiquette will be treated as they deserve!)
3. This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be treated as what they are.

[/quote]

http://web.archive.org/web/20160314200548/http://alt-atheism.org/atheism:faq

[quote]

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet
by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,
extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a
newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking
readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal,
on-topic discussion, often for the troll's amusement.

[/quote]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

If you don't see yourself there, you are maximally deluded.

Kevin R

Bob

2017-10-31 22:23:17 UTC

Post by Kevrob
1. All are welcome in the newsgroup, whether they're atheists or not, as long as they are not trolls.
2. Proselytizing of ANY religion is NOT welcome! (Those guilty of this bad nettiquette will be treated as they deserve!)
3. This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be treated as what they are.
http://web.archive.org/web/20160314200548/http://alt-atheism.org/atheism:faq
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet
by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,
extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a
newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking
readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal,
on-topic discussion, often for the troll's amusement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

You haven't shown irrefutable proof where any of that applies to me.

Do that first, then we'll talk.
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Kevrob

2017-10-31 22:29:55 UTC

You haven't shown irrefutable proof where any of that applies to me.
Do that first, then we'll talk.

"posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online
community (such as a newsgroup.....otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic
discussion, often for the troll's amusement."

You push you Calvinist idiocy, continually. Not to convince
anyone of it, "just because."

No, you don't do this. Not "Robert Duncan."

As Skippy Squirrel would say: SPEW!

Kevin R

Bob

2017-10-31 22:46:58 UTC

You haven't shown irrefutable proof where any of that applies to me.
Do that first, then we'll talk.

"posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online
community (such as a newsgroup.....otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic
discussion, often for the troll's amusement."
You push you Calvinist idiocy, continually. Not to convince
anyone of it, "just because."
No, you don't do this. Not "Robert Duncan."
As Skippy Squirrel would say: SPEW!

Still nothing.

You don't know what you're doing, do you?
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

hypatiab7

2017-11-04 09:16:24 UTC

You haven't shown irrefutable proof where any of that applies to me.
Do that first, then we'll talk.

"posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online
community (such as a newsgroup.....otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic
discussion, often for the troll's amusement."
You push you Calvinist idiocy, continually. Not to convince
anyone of it, "just because."
No, you don't do this. Not "Robert Duncan."
As Skippy Squirrel would say: SPEW!

Still nothing.
You don't know what you're doing, do you?

No, you don't. You serve no purpose to yourself or us. The longer
you stay here as nothing more than an annoyance troll, the more you
convince people that you are insane. You act as though you believe
you are your god.

hypatiab7

2017-11-04 09:10:28 UTC

You haven't shown irrefutable proof where any of that applies to me.
Do that first, then we'll talk.

And you haven't shown any proof or evidence that anything you write in alt.atheism applies to us. See how that works, Mr. Narcissist. Aside
from your being a theist troll here as described in our newsgroup
FAQ/Charter and as welcome as a fresh turd in the middle of the floor.
There is nothing for us to talk about.

hypatiab7

2017-11-04 08:48:59 UTC

Post by Kevrob
The easiest way to avoid my posts is to stop trolling the group.

Not going to happen.
The easiest way to avoid my posts is to stop reading them.
Tell me again why you want me to leave, and I'll tell you why
that doesn't apply to me.

[quote]
The Cat-Herding Rules and Regulations of alt.atheism and Some Information
1. All are welcome in the newsgroup, whether they're atheists or not, as long as they are not trolls.
2. Proselytizing of ANY religion is NOT welcome! (Those guilty of this bad nettiquette will be treated as they deserve!)
3. This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be treated as what they are.
[/quote]
http://web.archive.org/web/20160314200548/http://alt-atheism.org/atheism:faq
[quote]
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet
by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,
extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a
newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking
readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal,
on-topic discussion, often for the troll's amusement.
[/quote]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
If you don't see yourself there, you are maximally deluded.

Robert Duncan doesn't care. He's one of our newsgroup narcissists.
He can't accept that we will never agree with him because he believes,
as many theist trolls do, that they are the center of the Universe and
everyone revolves around them. They feel that we MUST agree with them
about everything. And, they use religion as a snare. And so they trap themselves here trying to force us to worship them. They can't
understand why they fail. It has to be our fault.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-05 02:40:37 UTC

Post by Kevrob
The easiest way to avoid my posts is to stop trolling the group.

Not going to happen.
The easiest way to avoid my posts is to stop reading them.
Tell me again why you want me to leave, and I'll tell you why
that doesn't apply to me.

Because you are a pompous asshole who posts off charter nonsense and doesn't realize that being biased against religion is based on the fact that most of the bible is nonsense. You don't come here to discuss but to pontificate.

Atlatl Axolotl

2017-10-31 02:59:55 UTC

Post by Kevrob
Take your nonsense elsewhere.
Kevin R

.> On what planet are mere words "strong arm tactics?"

On the same planet on which AngryAtrie thinks Christopher is
threatening our First Amendment rights by saying "keep it to yourselves".

.> Maybe if you believe in magic, and think incantations have an
.> effect on the physical world.

Oh, that he does -- he thinks chanting "fantasy" and
"known laws of science" (unspecified), will magically <POOF!!>
nullify the researches of actual known scientists.

Apparently wanton abuse of tildes and arrows also helps
banish the unwanted.

2A

Post by Kevrob
What kind of tactics are calling damnation, hellfire and other
tortures down on nonbelievers, especially by people who believe
those to be real things?

Thanks, AtAx!
We never get a reasonable response to "Why do you post where you and
your proselytizing are unwanted? Do you see nonbelievers doing that
in your [fill in the name of woo-woo belief] forums? Do you want
atheist trolls investing your groups? You are supposed to be treating
others the way you would be treated, right?"
Kevin R

Bob

2017-10-30 16:08:28 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

"Once again, Earl proves he is not only uncultured, but
utterly immune to any suggestion that he might, you know,
actually learn something from this group."
I'm only doing what you "suggested".

That is a total non sequitor. I haven't suggested any theists
debate each otehr in this forum.

That is a total non sequitor. I haven't suggested that you have.

Post by Kevrob
From time to time, those making outrageous claims are told by
the atheists and skeptics in the group to "put up or shut up"
about the existence of some ghod or other supernatural beastie.

I have already explained why that is impossible. Evidently, you
choose not to understand why that is impossible.

That's your problem, not mine.
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Andrew

2017-10-30 15:40:42 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you
are free and still be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.

You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free".
This means you must follow *the truth* regardless
of what others say about you.

Right?

Yes.

Bob

2017-10-30 16:20:16 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you are free and still
be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.
You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free". This means you
must follow *the truth* regardless of what others say about you.
Right?
Yes.

Ouch!

You get a +2 for that one.

Wow.
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

hypatiab7

2017-10-31 17:49:54 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you
are free and still be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.
You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free".
This means you must follow *the truth* regardless
of what others say about you.
Right?
Yes.

And that is exactly what atheist do. These days most atheists are
Freethinkers. Religious fanatics can't possibly be Freethinkers.
Read the link I've supplied. It tells you exactly what Freethought is.
It's not you, Andyroo. Not by a longshot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought

John Locke

2017-10-31 19:46:13 UTC

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:40:42 -0400, "Andrew"

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you
are free and still be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.
You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free".
This means you must follow *the truth* regardless
of what others say about you.
Right?
Yes.

...you don't know what a freethinker is. You've probably never
experienced the freedom from religious delusion. Being a freethinker
means that you are free to contemplate the real facts of life and
nature without the noxious, invasive, encumbrances of religion.

Kevrob

2017-10-31 21:45:45 UTC

Post by John Locke
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:40:42 -0400, "Andrew"

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you
are free and still be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.
You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free".
This means you must follow *the truth* regardless
of what others say about you.
Right?
Yes.

I used the term "freethinker" to be inclusive of atheists, agnostics,
or anyone else not constrained by the dogmas of traditional religion.
The charter/FAQ welcomes believers to participate in the discussion
if they aren't trolls, and have sincere questions about atheism and
atheists. We aren't just a source of "prospects" for whatever
religion anyone else is selling. We aren't a "target-rich environment"
for weirdos like Duncan to continually damn and insult, either.

Kevin R

Andrew

2017-11-01 06:42:44 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you
are free and still be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.
You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free".
This means you must follow *the truth* regardless
of what others say about you.
Right?
Yes.

Yet you remain enslaved by your atheistic origins myth. A true
"freethinker" would be free to investigate truth wherever it may
lead, and not be confined in any box, be it religious or atheistic.

Your very words above expose you to be -not- free because you
express a philosophical bias preventing you from acknowledging
any *truth* that is outside of your expressed bias. Thus, you are
not a "freethinker".

John Locke

2017-11-01 15:29:00 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you
are free and still be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.
You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free".
This means you must follow *the truth* regardless
of what others say about you.
Right?
Yes.

Yet you remain enslaved by your atheistic origins myth. A true
"freethinker" would be free to investigate truth wherever it may
lead, and not be confined in any box, be it religious or atheistic.

...there's no truth in religon. It's all imaginary. Why would a
freethinker waste the time and energy ?

Post by Andrew
Your very words above expose you to be -not- free because you
express a philosophical bias preventing you from acknowledging
any *truth* that is outside of your expressed bias. Thus, you are
not a "freethinker".

...you're mistaking rational thought for "expressed bias".
Freethinkers aren't biased. We've just realized that there's no
evidence for any god...and that INCLUDES your silly ass "God"...and
thus, have moved on to looking for the real answers to life and
nature.

hypatiab7

2017-11-04 09:17:59 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you
are free and still be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.
You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free".
This means you must follow *the truth* regardless
of what others say about you.
Right?
Yes.

Yet you remain enslaved by your atheistic origins myth. A true
"freethinker" would be free to investigate truth wherever it may
lead, and not be confined in any box, be it religious or atheistic.
Your very words above expose you to be -not- free because you
express a philosophical bias preventing you from acknowledging
any *truth* that is outside of your expressed bias. Thus, you are
not a "freethinker".

Using religious language on us merely shows how limited your thought processes are.

Andrew

2017-11-04 14:50:00 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you
are free and still be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.
You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free".
This means you must follow *the truth* regardless
of what others say about you.
Right?
Yes.

Yet you remain enslaved by your atheistic origins myth. A true
"freethinker" would be free to investigate truth wherever it may
lead, and not be confined in any box, be it religious or atheistic.
Your very words above expose you to be -not- free because you
express a philosophical bias preventing you from acknowledging
any *truth* that is outside of your expressed bias. Thus, you are
not a "freethinker".

Using religious language on us merely shows how limited
your thought processes are.

You also are in a box and are not free, because you express
a philosophical bias that prevents you from acknowledging
any truth that is outside of your bias. Therefore you cannot
be a "freethinker".

John Locke

2017-11-04 16:55:29 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you
are free and still be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.
You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free".
This means you must follow *the truth* regardless
of what others say about you.
Right?
Yes.

Yet you remain enslaved by your atheistic origins myth. A true
"freethinker" would be free to investigate truth wherever it may
lead, and not be confined in any box, be it religious or atheistic.
Your very words above expose you to be -not- free because you
express a philosophical bias preventing you from acknowledging
any *truth* that is outside of your expressed bias. Thus, you are
not a "freethinker".

Using religious language on us merely shows how limited
your thought processes are.

You also are in a box and are not free, because you express
a philosophical bias that prevents you from acknowledging
any truth that is outside of your bias. Therefore you cannot
be a "freethinker".

...no Androol...YOU'RE the one in the box. A clouded box of fantasy
and delusion from which there little association with reality. Your
thought processing is totally constrained by ancient religious
nonsense. That's a hellish scenario I wouldn't wish upon my worst
enemy !

Andrew

2017-11-04 21:49:36 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you
are free and still be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.
You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free".
This means you must follow *the truth* regardless
of what others say about you.
Right?
Yes.

Yet you remain enslaved by your atheistic origins myth. A true
"freethinker" would be free to investigate truth wherever it may
lead, and not be confined in any box, be it religious or atheistic.
Your very words above expose you to be -not- free because you
express a philosophical bias preventing you from acknowledging
any *truth* that is outside of your expressed bias. Thus, you are
not a "freethinker".

Using religious language on us merely shows how limited
your thought processes are.

You also are in a box and are not free, because you express
a philosophical bias that prevents you from acknowledging
any truth that is outside of your bias. Therefore you cannot
be a "freethinker".

Your enflamed emotion reveals you to be out of control
and bereft of ability to reason as a rational, thinking man.

All of which --> supports my premise.

Thank you!

~ Andrew

Ted

2017-11-04 22:34:04 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Post by Kevrob
alt.atheism is not the forum to hash out who is a "True Christian"

and who is not. Find some corner of the net to work this out among
yourselves, and leave the atheists and other freethinkers here out
of it.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you >>>> >>are free
and still be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.
You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free". >>>> >>This
means you must follow *the truth* regardless >>>> >>of what others say about you.
Right?
Yes.

Post by b***@gmail.com
Yet you remain enslaved by your atheistic origins myth. A true

"freethinker" would be free to investigate truth wherever it may >>>>
lead, and not be confined in any box, be it religious or atheistic.

Post by John Locke

Post by Andrew
Your very words above expose you to be -not- free because
you >>>> express a philosophical bias preventing you from acknowledging

any *truth* that is outside of your expressed bias. Thus, you are
not a "freethinker".

Post by John Locke

Using religious language on us merely shows how limited >>> your
thought processes are.

You also are in a box and are not free, because you express
a philosophical bias that prevents you from acknowledging >>any truth
that is outside of your bias. Therefore you cannot
be a "freethinker".

Your enflamed emotion reveals you to be out of control
and bereft of ability to reason as a rational, thinking man.
All of which --> supports my premise.
Thank you!
~ Andrew

What makes you think John was emotional? Because you are?

hypatiab7

2017-11-04 23:06:01 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you
are free and still be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.
You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free".
This means you must follow *the truth* regardless
of what others say about you.
Right?
Yes.

Yet you remain enslaved by your atheistic origins myth. A true
"freethinker" would be free to investigate truth wherever it may
lead, and not be confined in any box, be it religious or atheistic.
Your very words above expose you to be -not- free because you
express a philosophical bias preventing you from acknowledging
any *truth* that is outside of your expressed bias. Thus, you are
not a "freethinker".

Using religious language on us merely shows how limited
your thought processes are.

You also are in a box and are not free, because you express
a philosophical bias that prevents you from acknowledging
any truth that is outside of your bias. Therefore you cannot
be a "freethinker".

That's exactly how I think of you. The difference is that I want to learn
and you are trapped in the litter box afraid to learn. I want to understand religions and how they affect peoples' minds. You want to convert people or
send them to your hell. Don't try to deny this. You know it's true.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-05 03:25:46 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

Where are these, "freethinkers"? You can't say you
are free and still be following the gullible masses
like most of the atheists here are doing.
You can't be happy either unless you are truly "free".
This means you must follow *the truth* regardless
of what others say about you.
Right?
Yes.

Yet you remain enslaved by your atheistic origins myth. A true
"freethinker" would be free to investigate truth wherever it may
lead, and not be confined in any box, be it religious or atheistic.
Your very words above expose you to be -not- free because you
express a philosophical bias preventing you from acknowledging
any *truth* that is outside of your expressed bias. Thus, you are
not a "freethinker".

Using religious language on us merely shows how limited
your thought processes are.

You also are in a box and are not free, because you express
a philosophical bias that prevents you from acknowledging
any truth that is outside of your bias.

It's a bias against things that are proven to be false or just plain stupid.
Once that was established it was time to move on to more reliable sources.

Therefore you cannot

Post by Andrew
be a "freethinker".

Like you?
Fucking Hell you're an asshole.

hypatiab7

2017-10-31 16:48:54 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

They're annoyance trolls. Tell them that they are annoying you and they do
their happy dance.

duke

2017-11-01 21:06:40 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

We push the following from Jesus, complete with verse id.

MASS:
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).

SACRAMENTS:
1. Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
2. Holy Eucharist -Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
3. Confession - John 20:22-23, 2 Cor 5:18-19, Mat 9:2-8
4. Matrimony - Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
5. Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13-14, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:5-6,
6. Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
7. Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14

PAPACY:
Mat 16:13-19 (Pope), Mat 28:16-20 (Teaching), Eph 2:19-20 (Base)

PURGATORY:
1 Cor 3:10-15

FAITH (without deeds is dead faith):
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.

Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.

Post by b***@gmail.com
Christianity is a faith-based religion.
Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.

Jesus said "faith without deeds is dead faith".

That's Christianity.

Post by b***@gmail.com
That's why you are not a Christian.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

Ted

2017-11-01 21:29:02 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

Tulips eat shit, same as Trump. We Christian Pastafarians know that Jesus
founded his church on a Rock-Hard Peter.

Matthew 16:18 Jesus said "Thou art Peter, and upon this Rock-Hard Peter I
will build my church"

Bob

2017-11-02 17:27:37 UTC

Tulips eat shit, same as Trump. We Pastafarians know that Jesus
founded his church on a Rock-Hard Peter.

I'm glad you do. You have no idea just how glad. <g>
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

b***@gmail.com

2017-11-01 22:31:03 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

That's why you never even try.

You know you can't, and I know you can't.

Christianity is a faith-based religion.

Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.

That's why you are not a Christian.

--
"These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules."
[Matthew 15:8, 9]

duke

2017-11-02 17:58:16 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth, and it doesn't say "tulip"

MASS:
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).

SACRAMENTS:
1. Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
2. Holy Eucharist -Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
3. Confession - John 20:22-23, 2 Cor 5:18-19, Mat 9:2-8
4. Matrimony - Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
5. Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13-14, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:5-6,
6. Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
7. Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14

PAPACY:
Mat 16:13-19 (Pope), Mat 28:16-20 (Teaching), Eph 2:19-20 (Base)

PURGATORY:
1 Cor 3:10-15

FAITH (without deeds is dead faith):
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.

Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

Bob

2017-11-02 22:01:44 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

That's just your biased opinion, as taught by the RCC,
(Roman Catholic Cult).

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it from
Scripture. You can only repeat what the RCC says it is.

That has been irrefutably proven wrong for centuries.

But it's alright if you want to believe it, as long as you know
you belong to a Satanic cult, and you're not a Christian.

Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.

Christianity is a faith-based religion.

That's why you are not a Christian.
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Ted

2017-11-02 23:24:45 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

He also isn't a real mechanical engineer.

Bob

2017-11-02 23:29:59 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

He also isn't a real mechanical engineer.

Has anyone ever told you what a good brown-noser you are?
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Ted

2017-11-02 23:41:54 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

He also isn't a real mechanical engineer.

Has anyone ever told you what a good brown-noser you are?

Has anyone ever told you what an asshole you are?

Bob

2017-11-02 23:51:40 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

He also isn't a real mechanical engineer.

Has anyone ever told you what a good brown-noser you are?

Has anyone ever told you what an asshole you are?

Don't be mad. I'm not the only one who can see you're a brown-noser.

It's just you're the best brown-noser I've ever seen.
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Ted

2017-11-03 00:14:11 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

He also isn't a real mechanical engineer.

Has anyone ever told you what a good brown-noser you are?

Has anyone ever told you what an asshole you are?

Don't be mad. I'm not the only one who can see you're a brown-noser.
It's just you're the best brown-noser I've ever seen.

Thank you, Bob. (I guess.) And I wasn't mad. I never get emotional here
and hopefully you don't either. You don't seem to.

Bob

2017-11-03 00:32:03 UTC

Post by Ted
Thank you, Bob. (I guess.) And I wasn't mad. I never get emotional here
and hopefully you don't either. You don't seem to.

There you go again.

Damn you're good!

You must have a lot of experience.
--
The unregenerate non-elect will always believe what another unregenerate
non-elect says, whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie. Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.

Or, as the Gospel of John very concisely puts it:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Ted

2017-11-04 12:12:54 UTC

Post by Ted
Thank you, Bob. (I guess.) And I wasn't mad. I never get emotional here
and hopefully you don't either. You don't seem to.

There you go again.
Damn you're good!
You must have a lot of experience.

LOL.

hypatiab7

2017-11-04 09:43:19 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

He also isn't a real mechanical engineer.

Duke's a sewer engineer and ashamed of it. He shouldn't be, but he is.

Post by Bob
Has anyone ever told you what a good brown-noser you are?

Wrong use of the expression, Bobert. He isn't trying to get on your good side
or Duke's.

Neither of you have one.

Atlatl Axolotl

2017-11-03 02:27:54 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

I never believe anything Duke says...

Post by Bob
whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie.

...and I spot his lies. His many, many lies.

In fact I would say that's true for the majority of the posters here
who have any interaction with Duke.

Post by Bob
Therefore those
who were predestined for Hell, will still end up in Hell, and those who
are predestined for Heaven are still going to go to Heaven. Nothing in
God's plan will change. For by convincing other unregenerate non-elects
to believe his lies, he is fulfilling that part of God's plan that God
has predestined just for him.
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the
door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber.
But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep
by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he
goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A
stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do
not know the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

duke

2017-11-03 17:46:18 UTC

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 19:27:54 -0700 (PDT), Atlatl Axolotl

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

I never believe anything Duke says...

Nor what Jesus teaches.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

Bob

2017-11-03 23:48:27 UTC

Post by duke
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 19:27:54 -0700 (PDT), Atlatl Axolotl

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

I never believe anything Duke says...

Nor what Jesus teaches.

I believe that Jesus finished what he came here to accomplish.

You don't. You believe it's up to you to finish it.

Christianity is a faith-based religion.

Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.

That's why you are not a Christian.

--
"These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules."
[Matthew 15:8, 9]

Ted

2017-11-04 00:01:15 UTC

Post by duke
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 19:27:54 -0700 (PDT), Atlatl Axolotl

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

Nor what Jesus teaches.

I believe that Jesus finished what he came here to accomplish.
You don't. You believe it's up to you to finish it.

Good point.

Post by Bob
Christianity is a faith-based religion.
Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.
That's why you are not a Christian.

duke

2017-11-04 16:42:15 UTC

Post by duke
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 19:27:54 -0700 (PDT), Atlatl Axolotl

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

I never believe anything Duke says...

Nor what Jesus teaches.

I believe that Jesus finished what he came here to accomplish.

Of course.

MASS:
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).

SACRAMENTS:
1. Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
2. Holy Eucharist -Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
3. Confession - John 20:22-23, 2 Cor 5:18-19, Mat 9:2-8
4. Matrimony - Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
5. Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13-14, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:5-6,
6. Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
7. Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14

PAPACY:
Mat 16:13-19 (Pope), Mat 28:16-20 (Teaching), Eph 2:19-20 (Base)

PURGATORY:
1 Cor 3:10-15

FAITH (without deeds is dead faith):
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.

Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.

Post by Bob
You don't. You believe it's up to you to finish it.
Christianity is a faith-based religion.
Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.

2 John 9New International Version (NIV)
9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not
have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.

Post by Bob
That's why you are not a Christian.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-05 03:21:23 UTC

Post by duke
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 19:27:54 -0700 (PDT), Atlatl Axolotl

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

I never believe anything Duke says...

Nor what Jesus teaches.

Because as I have just pointed out Jesus was an asshole.

Post by duke
the dukester, American-Shit for Brains

Ted

2017-11-03 23:38:04 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

I never believe anything Duke says...

Post by Bob
whereas the regenerate chosen elect will intrinsically
recognize what the unregenerate non-elect says as a lie.

...and I spot his lies. His many, many lies.
In fact I would say that's true for the majority of the posters here
who have any interaction with Duke.

Then it's just as I've long suspected. We're all regenerate chosen elect.

duke

2017-11-03 17:45:34 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

That's just your biased opinion, as taught by the RCC,
(Roman Catholic Cult).

You pagans spend your lives rejecting the teachings of Jesus. Thanks be to God
I'm not one of you.

Post by Bob
It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it from
Scripture. You can only repeat what the RCC says it is.

It's clearly spelled out in scripture.

Post by Bob
That has been irrefutably proven wrong for centuries.
But it's alright if you want to believe it, as long as you know
you belong to a Satanic cult, and you're not a Christian.

You tulips don't even mention the teachings of Jesus.

Post by Bob
Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.

Only the works as specified by Jesus.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

Bob

2017-11-03 23:43:39 UTC

Post by duke
You pagans spend your lives rejecting the teachings of Jesus.

It's real easy to say those words.

But you know, and I know, you will never, ever, be able to
irrefutably prove those words are true.

Christianity is a faith-based religion.

Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.

That's why you are not a Christian.

--
"These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules."
[Matthew 15:8, 9]

duke

2017-11-04 16:43:09 UTC

Post by duke
You pagans spend your lives rejecting the teachings of Jesus.

It's real easy to say those words.
But you know, and I know, you will never, ever, be able to
irrefutably prove those words are true.

Then why would you believe anything in scripture?

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-05 03:20:15 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

That's just your biased opinion, as taught by the RCC,
(Roman Catholic Cult).

You pagans spend your lives rejecting the teachings of Jesus. Thanks be to God
I'm not one of you.

Rejection of Jesus teachings is due to the fact that they are impossible to live by and can only lead to heartbreak or insanity as you have clearly shown.

Post by Bob
It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it from
Scripture. You can only repeat what the RCC says it is.

It's clearly spelled out in scripture.

Just because something is written down somewhere does not make it true and does not mean it shouldn't be tested against reality.

Jesus, was a hypocrite. He told his followers not to call anyone a fool.

Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire. Matthew 5:22

Yet he often called his critics and disciples fools.

Ye fools and blind. Matthew 23:17, 19

Ye fools. Luke 11:40

He was a false prophet.

Verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. Matthew 10:23

Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Matthew 16:28, Mark 9:1, Luke 9:27

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30, Luke 21:32

Behold, I come quickly. Revelation 3:11, 22:7, 22:11, 22:20O fools, and slow of heart to believe. Luke 24:25

He was a warmonger.

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34, Luke 12:51-53

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:11

He was a megalomaniac.

Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed. Mark 8:38

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God ... he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:18, 36

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:16

He condemned cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching.

Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! ... And thou, Capernaum ... shalt be brought down to hell ... it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee. Matthew 11:21-24

Whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. Mark 6:11

But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not ... it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city. Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! ... And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted t

He believed in an unforgivable sin.

Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men ... whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Matthew 12:31-32, Mark 3:29, Luke 12:10

He condemned people to hell for things that their ancestors supposedly did.

Ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. ... Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? ... Upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Matthew 23:31-35

He lied about prayer.

Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. Matthew 17:20

That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them. Mark 11:23-24

Whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do. John 14:13-14, 15:7, 15:16, 16:23

If ye have faith, and doubt not ... if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive. Matthew 21:21-22

If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you. Luke 17:6

He said some stupid things.

All things are possible to him that believeth. Mark 9:23

Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Luke 10:19

That which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. Luke 16:15

Some of you shall they cause to be put to death ... but there shall not an hair of your head perish. Luke 21:16-18

Woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. Luke 21:23

He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. John 7:38

And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world ... that they which see might be made blind. John 9:39

He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. John 12:25

He encouraged men to castrate themselves.

There are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. Matthew 19:12

Post by Bob
That has been irrefutably proven wrong for centuries.
But it's alright if you want to believe it, as long as you know
you belong to a Satanic cult, and you're not a Christian.

You tulips don't even mention the teachings of Jesus.

Jesus was a prick.
He criticized the Pharisees for not killing parent-cursing children.

God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. Matthew 15:4

Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death. Mark 7:10

Post by Bob
Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.

And it's bad to be nice to each other and do good works?

Post by duke
Only the works as specified by Jesus.
the dukester, American-American

But, Jesus was crazy and nasty. He was probably a roile model for Stalin.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-05 02:53:54 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus taught his new Church on earth.

You can't prove anything from scripture, it is known to have much that simply is not true.

Smiler

2017-11-03 03:50:17 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.

Here's what Jesus

That would be the Jesus for whom you've failed to show any evidence in 20
years.
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.

Post by duke
taught his new Church on earth, and it doesn't say "tulip"

Post by duke
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Catholics are thick.
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hypatiab7

2017-11-04 09:21:30 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.
That's why you never even try.
You know you can't, and I know you can't.
Christianity is a faith-based religion.
Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.
That's why you are not a Christian.

And, please stop using our atheist newsgroup as a battleground for your
differences with other Christians. Your hatred disgusts us.

duke

2017-11-04 16:43:41 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/n6z5JHpDbZU

Impossible. We follow the teachings of Jesus. Calvinists don't.

It's one thing to say it. Anybody can say what you say.
But it's not so easy to irrefutably prove what you say.
That's why you never even make the attempt. You know you can't.
And I know you can't.

You push "tulip". A false teaching NOT by God.

It's easy to say it, but you cannot irrefutably prove it.
That's why you never even try.
You know you can't, and I know you can't.
Christianity is a faith-based religion.
Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.
That's why you are not a Christian.

And, please stop using our atheist newsgroup as a battleground for your
differences with other Christians. Your hatred disgusts us.

I don't see tulips as Christians.

the dukester, American-American

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The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
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Cloud Hobbit

2017-10-30 20:12:25 UTC

RCC is of course nonsense just like Calvinism, Islam, and Judaism. They all claim an imaginary God and lots of imaginary people and events.

Abraham, Moses, and Noah did not exist.

But you know this already.

Andrew

2017-10-31 04:28:47 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Abraham, Moses, and Noah did not exist.

Evidence that you are~willingly~deceived.

hypatiab7

2017-10-31 17:57:03 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
RCC is of course nonsense just like Calvinism, Islam, and Judaism. They all claim an imaginary God and lots of imaginary people and events.
Abraham, Moses, and Noah did not exist.
But you know this already.

Who is this directed to?

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-05 02:35:54 UTC