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Btms
2017-08-27 21:18:07 UTC
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Releasing doves? Where are the doves likely to head? I mean, I dont think
I have ever seen doves in an entirely wild sense.

We may have wood pigeons in the garden. All called Clarrie.
Clive Arthur
2017-08-27 21:30:30 UTC
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Post by Btms
Releasing doves? Where are the doves likely to head? I mean, I dont think
I have ever seen doves in an entirely wild sense.
We may have wood pigeons in the garden. All called Clarrie.
Coo!

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Rosemary Miskin
2017-08-28 09:26:36 UTC
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I mean, I dont think I have ever seen doves in an entirely wild sense.   
We get collared doves in the garden as well as wood pigeons.

Rosemary
Btms
2017-08-28 10:05:09 UTC
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I mean, I dont think I have ever seen doves in an entirely wild sense.   
We get collared doves in the garden as well as wood pigeons.
Rosemary
Its the white ones they have released and I suddenly thought I am not sure
the white ones are wild. Will they fly home I thought? Maybe London Zoo.
Just curious.
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Mike
2017-08-28 11:45:04 UTC
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Post by Btms
Releasing doves? Where are the doves likely to head? I mean, I dont think
I have ever seen doves in an entirely wild sense.
We may have wood pigeons in the garden. All called Clarrie.
Oh yes, I can see you are abreast of the situation.
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Serena Blanchflower
2017-08-28 13:40:11 UTC
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Releasing doves? Where are the doves likely to head? I mean, I dont think
I have ever seen doves in an entirely wild sense.
Where have they been release from and how long had they been there?
Someone I know on FB was given a dovecote, and doves, recently and said
they had to be kept in for six weeks, so that they'd recognise that as
home and come back to their dovecote. Two escapologists escaped the
first day and it was hoped they would fly back to their breeder - I
don't know if they reached home safely though.

I don't know whether domesticated, white doves would be capable of
living wild, if they needed to.
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Serena Blanchflower
2017-08-28 13:42:45 UTC
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I don't know whether domesticated, white doves would be capable of
living wild, if they needed to.
Having said that, I decided to try to find out and it sounds as if they
can survive in the wild, as increasing numbers are released:

<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/12195669/Releasing-untrained-white-doves-at-weddings-and-funerals-will-see-worrying-increase-in-wild-across-UK.html>
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Penny
2017-08-28 17:03:41 UTC
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 14:42:45 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
I don't know whether domesticated, white doves would be capable of
living wild, if they needed to.
Having said that, I decided to try to find out and it sounds as if they
<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/12195669/Releasing-untrained-white-doves-at-weddings-and-funerals-will-see-worrying-increase-in-wild-across-UK.html>
Of course releasing them indoors can be injurious to the doves, especially
when there are ceiling fans - see cheesy (and unsuccessful) wooing scene in
early part of 'I give it a year'.
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Peter Percival
2017-08-28 14:37:49 UTC
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Post by Btms
Releasing doves? Where are the doves likely to head? I mean, I dont think
I have ever seen doves in an entirely wild sense.
Where have they been release from and how long had they been there?
Someone I know on FB was given a dovecote, and doves, recently and said
they had to be kept in for six weeks, so that they'd recognise that as
home and come back to their dovecote. Two escapologists escaped the
first day and it was hoped they would fly back to their breeder - I
don't know if they reached home safely though.
I don't know whether domesticated, white doves would be capable of
living wild, if they needed to.
They should check their privilege.

I once heard Bidisha Bandyopadhyay use the phrase "check your
privilege". She seemed to be quite unaware that she was rather more
privileged than the person she was verbally accosting.
--
Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain
to me what you really mean.
I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
Btms
2017-08-28 20:17:43 UTC
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Post by Btms
Releasing doves? Where are the doves likely to head? I mean, I dont think
I have ever seen doves in an entirely wild sense.
Where have they been release from and how long had they been there?
Someone I know on FB was given a dovecote, and doves, recently and said
they had to be kept in for six weeks, so that they'd recognise that as
home and come back to their dovecote. Two escapologists escaped the
first day and it was hoped they would fly back to their breeder - I
don't know if they reached home safely though.
I don't know whether domesticated, white doves would be capable of
living wild, if they needed to.
The particular doves in question are those released at the Notting Hill
Carnival as a memorial to lives lost at Grenfell. Grenfell having been
built on the original start point of the NHC. Having been imported for the
event (as I believe is not unusual) I am wondering where they will fly.
Would they go home? And where might home be? What usually happens?
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Jenny M Benson
2017-08-28 20:36:18 UTC
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Post by Btms
The particular doves in question are those released at the Notting Hill
Carnival as a memorial to lives lost at Grenfell. Grenfell having been
built on the original start point of the NHC. Having been imported for the
event (as I believe is not unusual) I am wondering where they will fly.
Would they go home? And where might home be? What usually happens?
If you Goggle "What happens to released doves" you will be provided with
plenty of reading matter on the subject.

In short, they are supposed to fly home (like homing pigeons) but
apparently many get lost, attacked by other birds, etc.
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Jenny M Benson
Btms
2017-08-28 20:42:42 UTC
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Post by Btms
The particular doves in question are those released at the Notting Hill
Carnival as a memorial to lives lost at Grenfell. Grenfell having been
built on the original start point of the NHC. Having been imported for the
event (as I believe is not unusual) I am wondering where they will fly.
Would they go home? And where might home be? What usually happens?
If you Goggle "What happens to released doves" you will be provided with
plenty of reading matter on the subject.
In short, they are supposed to fly home (like homing pigeons) but
apparently many get lost, attacked by other birds, etc.
I will ask google but it seems unfortunate if these symbols of peace are
likely to come to a sticky end. 😳
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Btms
2017-08-28 20:44:47 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Btms
The particular doves in question are those released at the Notting Hill
Carnival as a memorial to lives lost at Grenfell. Grenfell having been
built on the original start point of the NHC. Having been imported for the
event (as I believe is not unusual) I am wondering where they will fly.
Would they go home? And where might home be? What usually happens?
If you Goggle "What happens to released doves" you will be provided with
plenty of reading matter on the subject.
In short, they are supposed to fly home (like homing pigeons) but
apparently many get lost, attacked by other birds, etc.
I will ask google but it seems unfortunate if these symbols of peace are
likely to come to a sticky end. 😳
I have had a google look........and wish I hadn't. Their prognosis is not
good and their non aggressive nature makes it worse istm. Poor things.
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Serena Blanchflower
2017-08-28 20:47:42 UTC
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Releasing doves? Where are the doves likely to head? I mean, I dont think
I have ever seen doves in an entirely wild sense.
Where have they been release from and how long had they been there?
Someone I know on FB was given a dovecote, and doves, recently and said
they had to be kept in for six weeks, so that they'd recognise that as
home and come back to their dovecote. Two escapologists escaped the
first day and it was hoped they would fly back to their breeder - I
don't know if they reached home safely though.
I don't know whether domesticated, white doves would be capable of
living wild, if they needed to.
The particular doves in question are those released at the Notting Hill
Carnival as a memorial to lives lost at Grenfell. Grenfell having been
built on the original start point of the NHC. Having been imported for the
event (as I believe is not unusual) I am wondering where they will fly.
Would they go home? And where might home be? What usually happens?
Ah! In theory they should fly home, which will be to wherever they have
been brought from. In practice, this is less certain.
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Best wishes, Serena
The letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life (2 Corinthians 3:6)
Btms
2017-08-28 20:47:31 UTC
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Releasing doves? Where are the doves likely to head? I mean, I dont think
I have ever seen doves in an entirely wild sense.
Where have they been release from and how long had they been there?
Someone I know on FB was given a dovecote, and doves, recently and said
they had to be kept in for six weeks, so that they'd recognise that as
home and come back to their dovecote. Two escapologists escaped the
first day and it was hoped they would fly back to their breeder - I
don't know if they reached home safely though.
I don't know whether domesticated, white doves would be capable of
living wild, if they needed to.
The particular doves in question are those released at the Notting Hill
Carnival as a memorial to lives lost at Grenfell. Grenfell having been
built on the original start point of the NHC. Having been imported for the
event (as I believe is not unusual) I am wondering where they will fly.
Would they go home? And where might home be? What usually happens?
Ah! In theory they should fly home, which will be to wherever they have
been brought from. In practice, this is less certain.
Indeed. I have just read the account of the doves released at an olympic
games and by the Pope. Two different events.
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