In article <538c8eba-d30a-422e-9892-***@googlegroups.com>, ResLight
says...
Post by ResLightght
Post by Annointed Remnantsays...
It is God (through Christ) who actually appoints (ordains)=20
one as a pastor (which means shepherd). Any ordination by=20
men would only be in recognition of God's appointment, or=20
else not represent a true ordination at all.=20
If that is your definition, then that leaves the ordination
wide open for any nutcase such as Russell to be called Pastor.
Anyone from anywhere can say God has appointed them.
While I do not believe in all that Brother Russell presented,
I believe that his works overwhelmingly testify that God did
make use of Brother Russell, and I will be eternally thankful
that Brother Russell has shown so much truth from the Bible.
Russell's works overwhelmingly testify that he was a nut. None of his
predictions have ever came true. We went over this before so I guess you're
going to go back around again in circles, because you adore the nut.
Post by ResLighthttp://mostholyfaith.com
Post by Annointed RemnantIn the real world, however, Christian sects will only
appoint a Pastor or Clergyman if he has studied and
learned and agrees with the sect's beliefs.
Brother Russell had spent about nine years in study before
he began publishing his Watch Tower magazine; about five
years before appointment as pastor.
That was a waste of nine years of his life. In nine years he could have
mastered Hebrew and Koine Greek. Instead, he didn't even know how to identify
the Greek letters! He wasted his time on idiotic numerology and pyramid
conspiracies.
Post by ResLighthttp://ctr-rlbible.com/?cat=3D84
The appointment of anyone to any office in the church
should not at all be based on whether one agrees with
this or that sectarian teaching.
Bullshit! In order to join any organization, you have to agree to abide by its
rules. Religion is and has always been people organizing for a common cause.
Post by ResLightIt most often happens that way, but that is not how it
should be. Indeed, agreeing with a "sects" beliefs, in
effect, not only results in being man-pleasers (Galatians
1:10), but also in carnal thinking which will lead the
child of God to remain a babe in Christ. (1 Corinthians
3:1)
You agree with Russell's idiotic doomsday prophesies and pyramid conspiracies.
What makes you any different than all the others? You don't need to answer. I
already know the answer.
Post by ResLightThus, Brother Russell preached against sectarianism, and
sought only to remain faithful to God through Jesus as
revealed in the Bible.
And so have thousands of other nutcases.
Post by ResLightPost by Annointed RemnantRussell, on the other hand, invented his own religion
from a potpourri of Christian fundamentalist beliefs
that were popular in his day.
In fact, Brother Russell refused to invent any new religion
at all,
Bullshit! You can't be that dumb, can you?
Post by ResLightand endeavored to hold to only what he believed God
permitted him to understand as revealed in the faith
once delivered to the saints. -- Jude 1:3.
Exactly right! What *he* believed! AKA new religion.
Post by ResLighthttp://rlctr.blogspot.com/2008/06/new-religion.html
Post by Annointed RemnantHe borrowed strongly from the Adventists, who were an
offshoot from the Millerites, but he added whatever
tickled his ear.
I am not sure what is thought to be wrong in his
learning truths from others; nevertheless, I assume
that by Adventists, Second Adventists is meant, and
not 7th-Day Adventists.
You don't know? I thought you were an expert on the nutcase.
Post by ResLightAs a whole, however, Brother Russell rejected the
soteriological teachings of the Second Adventists
(as well as that of the SDA) as contrary to the good
news of great joy that will be for all the people as
revealed in the Bible,
The Bible doesn't reveal anything. It's what people want it to reveal, hence
the thousands of different interpretations of it. All the interpreters can't be
right but they can all be wrong.
Post by ResLightand he wrote against such Second Adventist doctrine
(as well as against the SDA doctrine).
Good for him. They were fairly new American Christian sects. Of course his
nonsense was even newer, or at least a mishmash of ideas he borrowed from
Americanized fundamentalist teachings.
Post by ResLightIt appears, however, that most people's ears are not
tickled with the true gospel message,
Thousands of folks from around the world have come up with the 'true gospel
message' that are all different. You just happen to believe in the nutcase, but
most people have never even heard of him or his nonsensical predictions. Of
course all the others are wrong and you are right.
Post by ResLightfor they prefer -- perhaps out of pride, love of tradition,
and/or to please man, or for some other reason -- to have
their ears tickled with a message that they will gain
salvation while most others will be eternally doomed, etc.
Now you're sounding just like a Jehovah's Witness. Maybe you should write some
Watchtower articles for them.
Post by ResLightBrother Russell did -- in 1876 -- adopt many of N. H.
Barbour's conclusions concerning chronology and time
prophecy, not because it "tickled his ear", but because
he thoroughly examined what was presented to him with
the Bible.
Oh bullshit! If he was so interested in learning, he would have used a small
portion of his fortune to educate himself instead of following conspiracy
theories and cult beliefs.
Post by ResLightHowever, Brother Russell had already come to an general
understanding of the atonement several years earlier.
Nevertheless, he still did not accept the study of time
prophecy or chronology as being being required for
salvation, and definitely not as a requirement to be
Christian.
What about his crew of 144,000 that was to be raptured to heaven? No
requirements for them?
Post by ResLightIndeed, while he preached against denominationalism and
sectarianism, he continuously declared that members of
the true church could be found among all the various
denominations and sects that claim to be Christian.
He plagiarized typical American fundamentalism and put his personal stamp on it.
It didn't endure. It is almost forgotten. The Jehovah's Witnesses have taken
it and twisted it into something else. How many young Bible Students do you
know? The teachings of the nutcase will go its way as did that of the Shakers
and the Koreshans.
Post by ResLighthttp://ctr-rlbible.com/?page_id=3D3386