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Is there a way to assign Windows 7's sound events to use MP3 files instead of WAV files?
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Ant
2018-08-04 20:35:55 UTC
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Or is it not possible? :(
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2018-08-04 20:46:15 UTC
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Or is it not possible? :(
Create a wav file!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Google is your friend for this.
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Ant
2018-08-05 01:26:54 UTC
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Or is it not possible? :(
Create a wav file!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Google is your friend for this.
But I don't want to use WAV files.
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VanguardLH
2018-08-04 22:14:42 UTC
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Post by Ant
Or is it not possible? :(
In the sound dialog to assign sound files to system events, the only
choice in the format drop-down listbox is WAV. That's what Microsoft
wants to use. WAV is the primary format used in Windows for raw audio
(usually uncompressed). That audio format was created by Microsoft
decades ago.

If you want to try a workaround, you could test if changing the audio
file designated by a registry entry would let you pick something other
than a .wav file.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents\Schemes\Apps

You'll find the sound event names listed as registry subkeys under
there. Under each sound event, there is a .Current registry key for
what audio file is currently assigned to that sound event. See if
replacing the .wav file (or blank entry if none assigned) to a .mp3 file
gets what you want.

Whatever handler that Windows uses to play the sound events may only
support .wav format.
Ant
2018-08-05 01:33:20 UTC
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Post by Ant
Or is it not possible? :(
In the sound dialog to assign sound files to system events, the only
choice in the format drop-down listbox is WAV. That's what Microsoft
wants to use. WAV is the primary format used in Windows for raw audio
(usually uncompressed). That audio format was created by Microsoft
decades ago.
If you want to try a workaround, you could test if changing the audio
file designated by a registry entry would let you pick something other
than a .wav file.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents\Schemes\Apps
You'll find the sound event names listed as registry subkeys under
there. Under each sound event, there is a .Current registry key for
what audio file is currently assigned to that sound event. See if
replacing the .wav file (or blank entry if none assigned) to a .mp3 file
gets what you want.
Whatever handler that Windows uses to play the sound events may only
support .wav format.
It didn't work. :(
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VanguardLH
2018-08-05 01:50:57 UTC
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Or is it not possible? :(
In the sound dialog to assign sound files to system events, the only
choice in the format drop-down listbox is WAV. That's what Microsoft
wants to use. WAV is the primary format used in Windows for raw audio
(usually uncompressed). That audio format was created by Microsoft
decades ago.
If you want to try a workaround, you could test if changing the audio
file designated by a registry entry would let you pick something other
than a .wav file.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents\Schemes\Apps
You'll find the sound event names listed as registry subkeys under
there. Under each sound event, there is a .Current registry key for
what audio file is currently assigned to that sound event. See if
replacing the .wav file (or blank entry if none assigned) to a .mp3 file
gets what you want.
Whatever handler that Windows uses to play the sound events may only
support .wav format.
It didn't work. :(
I suspected that whatever player Windows uses would only handle .wav
files. It's Microsoft's OS and Microsoft's audio format.

Why not convert whatever .mp3 you want to use into a .wav file?

Aside:
Ever notice that tin doesn't correctly quote (indent with quoting char)
the blank lines in the cited/quoted content of the parent post in a
reply? Instead tin leaves the quoted but blank line as a blank line;
i.e., the leading quoting char is missing. Is that how tin works or is
it something you configured in tin?
Ant
2018-08-05 12:26:09 UTC
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Post by Ant
Or is it not possible? :(
In the sound dialog to assign sound files to system events, the only
choice in the format drop-down listbox is WAV. That's what Microsoft
wants to use. WAV is the primary format used in Windows for raw audio
(usually uncompressed). That audio format was created by Microsoft
decades ago.
If you want to try a workaround, you could test if changing the audio
file designated by a registry entry would let you pick something other
than a .wav file.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents\Schemes\Apps
You'll find the sound event names listed as registry subkeys under
there. Under each sound event, there is a .Current registry key for
what audio file is currently assigned to that sound event. See if
replacing the .wav file (or blank entry if none assigned) to a .mp3 file
gets what you want.
Whatever handler that Windows uses to play the sound events may only
support .wav format.
It didn't work. :(
I suspected that whatever player Windows uses would only handle .wav
files. It's Microsoft's OS and Microsoft's audio format.
Oh well. Thanks for the idea. :)
Post by VanguardLH
Why not convert whatever .mp3 you want to use into a .wav file?
Because they're bigger file sizes.
Post by VanguardLH
Ever notice that tin doesn't correctly quote (indent with quoting char)
the blank lines in the cited/quoted content of the parent post in a
reply? Instead tin leaves the quoted but blank line as a blank line;
i.e., the leading quoting char is missing. Is that how tin works or is
it something you configured in tin?
I never noticed. I am currently using 2.4.2 release 20171224
("Lochhead") Dec 30 2017 18:08:35 so it should be new enough. You can
report this issue to tin-***@tin.org about it if you want. It doesn't
bother me.
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Paul
2018-08-04 22:23:55 UTC
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Post by Ant
Or is it not possible? :(
What kind of license would Windows need to do that ?

Then consider how big of a license is required for .wav.

Actually, here is the status of MP3 today.

"If the longest-running patent mentioned in the aforementioned
references is taken as a measure, then the MP3 technology
became patent-free in the United States on 16 April 2017,
when U.S. Patent 6,009,399, held and administered by
Technicolor, expired. As a result, many free and open-source
software projects, such as the Fedora operating system, have
decided to start shipping MP3 support by default, and users
will no longer have to resort to installing unofficial packages
maintained by third party software repositories for MP3 playback
or encoding."

So maybe they could add that today, but the policy with the
older OSes, is not making "radical" changes to the feature set.
There's no real incentive to improving Windows 7 today.
It's not a big revenue stream.

Paul
G Ross
2018-08-04 23:49:25 UTC
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Post by Ant
Or is it not possible? :(
Audacity or Sound Forge can convert a MP3 file to a WAV file, but the
file will be about 12 times as large. This does not answer your
question, but in case you don't find a short answer, it is a workaround.
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JJ
2018-08-05 01:11:29 UTC
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Post by Ant
Or is it not possible? :(
No. Not without a third party application.

WAV files can infact have other audio data formats such as ADPCM and MP3,
but the system sounds feature only support PCM format.

A third party application is needed to monitor the system events and play
the event's sound using its own audio player which supports other audio
formats.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's one already. But the question is, can it
output the audio from a "System Sounds" application? i.e. the audio volume
can be controlled from the "System Sounds" application's volume slider on
the Volume Mixer application. If it can't then the system sounds would be
controllable from its own volume slider on the Volume Mixer application.
tesla sTinker
2018-08-12 02:35:47 UTC
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no. not unless you use a hex editor and change the default in the
programming. it is possible however, to use windows encoder, a differ
than sound recorder audio program, and save your recorded media in mp3,
instead of wav. Yet encoder 7, lets you use any type extension you
wish, including cell phone stuff. I think you need
to try an encoder. As far as the event changing to log its default
sounds it will not change that unless you do some real digging. but
why care. When you can encode
audio in any type extension format you want, or even convert any type
extension.
Free audio converters exist. Same as Windows Encoder 7, and also
Encoder 9

try this, it may help what you may want.
https://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html
Post by Ant
Or is it not possible? :(
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