Are Aboriginals Somewhat Less Evolved Than Other Races?

[Christopher M. J]

A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.

Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.

Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.

Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)

It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?

I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

[Martin Collins]

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

I think largely the fact that the greater number of aborigines have not done
well enough in school is plainly because of the environment they are in.
Abusive parents, drunken parents and friends, unhealthy food, poor health,
insincere help offered by the government all add up to the state they are
in. Unless there is genuine efforts being made to get them out of the
squarlor, nothing much is going to change.


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Post by Martin Collins

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

I think largely the fact that the greater number of aborigines have not done
well enough in school is plainly because of the environment they are in.
Abusive parents, drunken parents and friends, unhealthy food, poor health,
insincere help offered by the government all add up to the state they are
in. Unless there is genuine efforts being made to get them out of the
squarlor, nothing much is going to change.

I've studied, and worked, with many very middle class aboriginals. They
are out there but you just don't hear about them.

Post by Martin Collins
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Post by greg

Post by Martin Collins

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

I think largely the fact that the greater number of aborigines have not done
well enough in school is plainly because of the environment they are in.
Abusive parents, drunken parents and friends, unhealthy food, poor health,
insincere help offered by the government all add up to the state they are
in. Unless there is genuine efforts being made to get them out of the
squarlor, nothing much is going to change.

I've studied, and worked, with many very middle class aboriginals. They
are out there but you just don't hear about them.

one of the points that the above poster didn't bring up was the fact
that technologically they hadn't advanced in more than 40,000 years.
and this was all before white man ever stepped foot on this continent to
put them in the condition they are in now.

there have been plenty of "occupations" of lands for much longer than
200 years and alot of other cultures have faired much better and even
managed to get their land and country back.

even if aboriginals are evolved as the rest of the world biologically,
their culture certainly wasn't/isn't.

and there are plenty of people who've come to this country from 3rd
world countries and squalid conditions and still managed to make
something of themselves.

[Ian McFadyen]

Post by BF

Post by greg

Post by Martin Collins

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

I think largely the fact that the greater number of aborigines have not done
well enough in school is plainly because of the environment they are in.
Abusive parents, drunken parents and friends, unhealthy food, poor health,
insincere help offered by the government all add up to the state they are
in. Unless there is genuine efforts being made to get them out of the
squarlor, nothing much is going to change.

I've studied, and worked, with many very middle class aboriginals. They
are out there but you just don't hear about them.

one of the points that the above poster didn't bring up was the fact
that technologically they hadn't advanced in more than 40,000 years.
and this was all before white man ever stepped foot on this continent to
put them in the condition they are in now.
there have been plenty of "occupations" of lands for much longer than
200 years and alot of other cultures have faired much better and even
managed to get their land and country back.
even if aboriginals are evolved as the rest of the world biologically,
their culture certainly wasn't/isn't.
and there are plenty of people who've come to this country from 3rd
world countries and squalid conditions and still managed to make
something of themselves.

You should remember that for most of those 40,000 years all the other
cultures in the world didn't evolve either. The move from a hunting/foraging
culture to a pastoral/farming culture has only happened in the last 5000
years, and has occurred very unevenly across the world. e.g. when the
Egyptians were planting crops and building cities, Northern Europeans were
still spearing game and picking berries.

As for your last point, in terms of ratios, there are also many people from
Aboriginal communities who, against all odds, have managed to "make
something" of themselves. The problem that Aboriginal Australians face is
that for the last 30 years the idea of expecting them to "make something" of
themselves has been damned as "assimilationism". The mutli-culturalists
(left-wing racists) have advanced a view that Aboriginal people must not
have "European" or "western" culture forced on them. i.e. they must be kept
as a kind of living museum display, for the enjoyment of anthropologists
and researchers in "Cultural Studies" who can get grants to transcribe
obscure languages and write papers on indigenous music. Oddly, they don't
insist equally that Australians from, say, Scottish backgrounds wear kilts,
speak Gaelic and sell paintings based on tartans to tourists. They are happy
for them to wear suits, become lawyers and drive Mercedes. For an Aboriginal
Australian to do this would be "cultural imperialism."

Of all the plagues which the Australian aborigines have faced, disease,
starvation and cultural deprivation, multiculturalism will probably be the
hardest to overcome.

[Christopher M. J]

I was sort of rushed in posting this thread, so I failed to mention
lack of technological advancement. If white man didnt come to
australia, is it possible thay they still wouldn't have culturally
evolved much more?

Thing is these days, how many pure blooded aboringals are still
around? the clown of the former ATSIC were mostly half half. Geoff
Clarke was as white as I am, and that lady who put the curse on John
Howard was blue eyed.

Compared to for example blacks in america, maori's, aboriginals seem
to be trailing far far behind.

I've read from place to place that in IQ tests they don't tend to
score all that high, however this can be attributed to cultural
variations in IQ testing, but I myself don't believe in IQ tests full
stop, so this point is probably moot.

Be interesting to see if you had a white, and an aboriginal kid, put
them through the exact same schooling, same tests, etc who would fare
better? would they be equal or different.


A little side note :

Problem though in this day and age, is that everyone is paranoid about
racism, been politcally correct, etc that they are too afraid to make
a mention of difference in races, genetically, intellecutally, etc.
Anti-discrimination groups would have us believe that every single
race is identical and equal, and that variances is not based on
genetics. This however cannot possibly be true, since genetics make up
essentially what we are, and it can't be that people who evolved
differently on one side of the world can be exactly identical to
another race. Hence why mixing of races is good for the gene pool, as
it allows races to share charecteristics ultimately breeding better
humans.

--- Sorry this has little relevance to the topic but I like to just
say it.

Post by BF

Post by greg

Post by Martin Collins

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

I think largely the fact that the greater number of aborigines have not done
well enough in school is plainly because of the environment they are in.
Abusive parents, drunken parents and friends, unhealthy food, poor health,
insincere help offered by the government all add up to the state they are
in. Unless there is genuine efforts being made to get them out of the
squarlor, nothing much is going to change.

I've studied, and worked, with many very middle class aboriginals. They
are out there but you just don't hear about them.

one of the points that the above poster didn't bring up was the fact
that technologically they hadn't advanced in more than 40,000 years.
and this was all before white man ever stepped foot on this continent to
put them in the condition they are in now.
there have been plenty of "occupations" of lands for much longer than
200 years and alot of other cultures have faired much better and even
managed to get their land and country back.
even if aboriginals are evolved as the rest of the world biologically,
their culture certainly wasn't/isn't.
and there are plenty of people who've come to this country from 3rd
world countries and squalid conditions and still managed to make
something of themselves.

[Paul Abeles]

Post by Martin Collins

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

I think largely the fact that the greater number of aborigines have not done
well enough in school is plainly because of the environment they are in.
Abusive parents, drunken parents and friends, unhealthy food, poor health,
insincere help offered by the government all add up to the state they are
in. Unless there is genuine efforts being made to get them out of the
squarlor, nothing much is going to change.

You're right. Just look at some of those "stolen" children.

[Thou]

Post by Paul Abeles

Post by Martin Collins

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

I think largely the fact that the greater number of aborigines have not

done

Post by Martin Collins
well enough in school is plainly because of the environment they are in.
Abusive parents, drunken parents and friends, unhealthy food, poor health,
insincere help offered by the government all add up to the state they are
in. Unless there is genuine efforts being made to get them out of the
squarlor, nothing much is going to change.

You're right. Just look at some of those "stolen" children.

Howdy fuckers, its disappointing I have to even address this but here we go:

Original poster's question betrays a lack of understanding of evolution and any
experience with Aboriginal people. The late 19th century illustration of an ape
gradually standing upright over generations plays up to cultural perceptions
which are a leftover from Creationism; that humans are the pinacle of creation,
and all previous life was some kind of ladder which rose to the omega point of
Homo Sapiens.

But evolution isn't a journey from "lower life" to sentience, it is a
description of the constant flux in the DNA of all life. If you are trying to
suggest that Aboriginal people are more like apes than yourself, then you are
assuming that they evolved into idential biomorphs with matching chromosomes,
independantly of the rest of the race. The odds of this happening are
phenomenal, and there is plently of evidence that they migrated during the last
ice age.

Fuck, I can't believe I'm bothering with this...

Every society has an underclass which is often defined by race. This does not
mean the race itself is genetically inferior or prone to self-destruction. The
2nd poster covered this.

Wake up.

[Stuart Fenech]

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.

Aboriginals have probably evolved along a slightly different line, yes.

Europeans lived on different diets and were exposed to alcohol etc for
thousands of years. Those who were alcoholics, on average, would have less
reproductive success than those without a tendency to over indulge. Without
exposure to alcohol, this would have played no part in Aboriginal
reproductive success.

Exposed to new diets, alcohol, viruses, etc, it is not really a suprise that
there are some problems. The aboriginals are not naturally a violent race.
Exposed to alcohol, some indeed are violent, as is the case with many other
races.

I think there are dangers in making any gross generalisations based on
limited information. A race not previously exposed to alcohol has problems
when exposed to it. It's not a matter of evolved or not... there's a
problem, and we need to work at it.

Stuart

[BF]

Post by Stuart Fenech

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.

Aboriginals have probably evolved along a slightly different line, yes.
Europeans lived on different diets and were exposed to alcohol etc for
thousands of years. Those who were alcoholics, on average, would have less
reproductive success than those without a tendency to over indulge.

Really? i would've thought that there were plenty of conceptions when
one or more of the parents were drunk.

being an alcoholic doesn't stop you reproducing. particularly at at
young age when you are most fertile.



Without

Post by Stuart Fenech
exposure to alcohol, this would have played no part in Aboriginal
reproductive success.
Exposed to new diets, alcohol, viruses, etc, it is not really a suprise that
there are some problems. The aboriginals are not naturally a violent race.
Exposed to alcohol, some indeed are violent, as is the case with many other
races.
I think there are dangers in making any gross generalisations based on
limited information. A race not previously exposed to alcohol has problems
when exposed to it. It's not a matter of evolved or not... there's a
problem, and we need to work at it.
Stuart

[Stuart Fenech]

Post by BF

Post by Stuart Fenech

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.

Aboriginals have probably evolved along a slightly different line, yes.
Europeans lived on different diets and were exposed to alcohol etc for
thousands of years. Those who were alcoholics, on average, would have less
reproductive success than those without a tendency to over indulge.

Really? i would've thought that there were plenty of conceptions when
one or more of the parents were drunk.
being an alcoholic doesn't stop you reproducing. particularly at at
young age when you are most fertile.

That is correct. But even a slightly lower reproductive success has an
impact over a great number of generations. Many alcoholics reproduce, of
course, but consider the average case. They tend to live shorter lives and
be less appealing, so on AVERAGE, they are going to have a slightly lower
level of reproductive success. Think about it.

Stuart

[BF]

Post by Stuart Fenech

Post by BF

Post by Stuart Fenech

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.

Aboriginals have probably evolved along a slightly different line, yes.
Europeans lived on different diets and were exposed to alcohol etc for
thousands of years. Those who were alcoholics, on average, would have

less

Post by BF

Post by Stuart Fenech
reproductive success than those without a tendency to over indulge.

Really? i would've thought that there were plenty of conceptions when
one or more of the parents were drunk.
being an alcoholic doesn't stop you reproducing. particularly at at
young age when you are most fertile.

That is correct. But even a slightly lower reproductive success has an
impact over a great number of generations. Many alcoholics reproduce, of
course, but consider the average case. They tend to live shorter lives and
be less appealing, so on AVERAGE, they are going to have a slightly lower
level of reproductive success. Think about it.

nah, maybe you should think about it.

you're 15, you're a scrubber, some drunk 15 yr old who is also 15 is
honry. he just wants a root, he has a root with you the 15 yr old
alcoholic scrubber and get preganant.

your kid grows up to be a scrubber too because of lack of parenting
skills. when she's 15 she meets up with another alocholic horny boy and
surprise suprise, she has a root and gets preganant again.

[Eunometic]

Post by Stuart Fenech

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.

Aboriginals have probably evolved along a slightly different line, yes.
Europeans lived on different diets and were exposed to alcohol etc for
thousands of years. Those who were alcoholics, on average, would have less
reproductive success than those without a tendency to over indulge. Without
exposure to alcohol, this would have played no part in Aboriginal
reproductive success.

Plenty of Europeans over indulge in alcahole but are not alcaholic.
They are just piss heads. The disease is almost absent in Jews and
Italians but more prevalent in Europeans who have been consuming
weaker bear for a shorter time than wine as the Italians have.

Post by Stuart Fenech
Exposed to new diets, alcohol, viruses, etc, it is not really a suprise that
there are some problems.

Agreed.

Post by Stuart Fenech
The aboriginals are not naturally a violent race.

All humans, including Aboriginals are by nature violent. We are
territorial creatures and will be violent to protect our territory and
resources and will will be violent to expand our resources when our
own are intollerably small. We will be violent to quash an emerging
threat. Lefties are as violent if not more violent than right
wingers. Excessively pacifistic individuals, cultures and races die
just as excessively beligerant ones may do so.

Aboriginals ARE a violent race, just like all races. On a continium
my gut feeling is that they are medium as a culture in that area.
They had a word for Warrior. Besides we are actualy talking of 3 or
even 4 sub races.

Testosterone in some races is higher than others. Sub-Saharan African
testosterone is 22% higher than whites and that of East Asians less.

Post by Stuart Fenech
Exposed to alcohol, some indeed are violent, as is the case with many other
races.
I think there are dangers in making any gross generalisations based on
limited information. A race not previously exposed to alcohol has problems
when exposed to it. It's not a matter of evolved or not... there's a
problem, and we need to work at it.

The only way to get rid of that at the momment is to given them a
little help but let those who fail to cope with alcahole die, as
countless of our would be ancestors did. An alternative is Eugenics.

There is a good possibillity that the average IQ of a group of
aboriginals will be lower than a group of Whites. It doesn't mean
that there aren't any bright ones (eg Neville Bonner). Aboriginals
may have skills that whites don't have that aren;t adaquetly tested by
IQ tests but then IQ tests are about a particular type of civilised
learning, living and performance.

Exposure to the harsh requirements of the European winter (I'm talking
ice age so that includes all of the people of the upper and lower
Mediteranean shores) required enormous forsight and tool and clothing
making abillity. It was unusal in that it was a good environment for
7 months of the year and a harsh one during the winter. East Asians
experienced a similar environment.

I particularly admire the cro-magnon art, it is beautifull and life
like and I can relate to it. I also admire their spears and spear
throwers: sharp antler or bone tips, stabalising feathers.

Cro-Magnon ice age technology and Art seems, well superior, in my
opinion.

Post by Stuart Fenech
Stuart

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Post by Stuart Fenech

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.

Aboriginals have probably evolved along a slightly different line, yes.
Europeans lived on different diets and were exposed to alcohol etc for
thousands of years. Those who were alcoholics, on average, would have less
reproductive success than those without a tendency to over indulge. Without
exposure to alcohol, this would have played no part in Aboriginal
reproductive success.
Exposed to new diets, alcohol, viruses, etc, it is not really a suprise that
there are some problems. The aboriginals are not naturally a violent race.
Exposed to alcohol, some indeed are violent, as is the case with many other
races.
I think there are dangers in making any gross generalisations based on
limited information. A race not previously exposed to alcohol has problems
when exposed to it. It's not a matter of evolved or not... there's a
problem, and we need to work at it.
Stuart

Agree, Have read studies that Aboriginal brain weight on average is half a pound lighter than Corcasions. This is because they adapted early and so were an advanced form of humanity at their time before other civilisations.
archaeologist's have even found pottery and early forms of star charts. However, climatic effects such as flooding prevented them from advancing but made them proficient nomads.

[SG1]

Post by g***@gmail.com

Post by Stuart Fenech

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.

Aboriginals have probably evolved along a slightly different line, yes.
Europeans lived on different diets and were exposed to alcohol etc for
thousands of years. Those who were alcoholics, on average, would have less
reproductive success than those without a tendency to over indulge. Without
exposure to alcohol, this would have played no part in Aboriginal
reproductive success.
Exposed to new diets, alcohol, viruses, etc, it is not really a suprise that
there are some problems. The aboriginals are not naturally a violent race.
Exposed to alcohol, some indeed are violent, as is the case with many other
races.
I think there are dangers in making any gross generalisations based on
limited information. A race not previously exposed to alcohol has problems
when exposed to it. It's not a matter of evolved or not... there's a
problem, and we need to work at it.
Stuart

Agree, Have read studies that Aboriginal brain weight on average is half a
pound lighter than Corcasions. This is because they adapted early and so
were an advanced form of humanity at their time before other
civilisations.
archaeologist's have even found pottery and early forms of star charts.
However, climatic effects such as flooding prevented them from advancing
but made them proficient nomads.

I will take greater notice of your ramblings when you learn to spell.

[SG1]

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Post by g***@gmail.com

Post by Stuart Fenech

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.

Aboriginals have probably evolved along a slightly different line, yes.
Europeans lived on different diets and were exposed to alcohol etc for
thousands of years. Those who were alcoholics, on average, would have less
reproductive success than those without a tendency to over indulge. Without
exposure to alcohol, this would have played no part in Aboriginal
reproductive success.
Exposed to new diets, alcohol, viruses, etc, it is not really a suprise that
there are some problems. The aboriginals are not naturally a violent race.
Exposed to alcohol, some indeed are violent, as is the case with many other
races.
I think there are dangers in making any gross generalisations based on
limited information. A race not previously exposed to alcohol has problems
when exposed to it. It's not a matter of evolved or not... there's a
problem, and we need to work at it.
Stuart

Agree, Have read studies that Aboriginal brain weight on average is half
a pound lighter than Corcasions. This is because they adapted early and
so were an advanced form of humanity at their time before other
civilisations.
archaeologist's have even found pottery and early forms of star charts.
However, climatic effects such as flooding prevented them from advancing
but made them proficient nomads.

I will take greater notice of your ramblings when you learn to spell.

It is amazing that 2 "people" on this thread can not spell Caucasian.
Maybe it is the same IH person.

[Pelican]

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Post by Stuart Fenech

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.

Aboriginals have probably evolved along a slightly different line, yes.
Europeans lived on different diets and were exposed to alcohol etc for
thousands of years. Those who were alcoholics, on average, would have less
reproductive success than those without a tendency to over indulge. Without
exposure to alcohol, this would have played no part in Aboriginal
reproductive success.
Exposed to new diets, alcohol, viruses, etc, it is not really a suprise that
there are some problems. The aboriginals are not naturally a violent race.
Exposed to alcohol, some indeed are violent, as is the case with many other
races.
I think there are dangers in making any gross generalisations based on
limited information. A race not previously exposed to alcohol has problems
when exposed to it. It's not a matter of evolved or not... there's a
problem, and we need to work at it.
Stuart

Agree, Have read studies that Aboriginal brain weight on average is
half a pound lighter than Corcasions. This is because they adapted
early and so were an advanced form of humanity at their time before
other civilisations.
archaeologist's have even found pottery and early forms of star
charts. However, climatic effects such as flooding prevented them
from advancing but made them proficient nomads.

I will take greater notice of your ramblings when you learn to spell.

It is amazing that 2 "people" on this thread can not spell Caucasian.
Maybe it is the same IH person.

Oh, no! Someone is using sock-puppets in a newsgroup. How novel is that?

[Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög]

Post by SG1
It is amazing that 2 "people" on this thread can not spell Caucasian.

Actually it is not amazing at all.
But it is a sad reminder of the wide spread illiteracy of some Usenet
posters.

[Ned Latham]

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Post by Stuart Fenech

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually
somewhat less evolved in many cases.

Aboriginals

That is an adjective. The noun is "aborigine".

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Post by Stuart Fenech
have probably evolved along a slightly different
line, yes.

Where is there any evidence of such?

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Post by Stuart Fenech
Europeans lived on different diets and were exposed to alcohol etc
for thousands of years. Those who were alcoholics, on average,
would have less reproductive success than those without a tendency
to over indulge. Without exposure to alcohol, this would have
played no part in Aboriginal reproductive success.

Drunkenness has no effect on reproductive success now: why would
it have had an effect on the ancestors of modern Europoeans?

Post by g***@gmail.com

Post by Stuart Fenech
Exposed to new diets, alcohol, viruses, etc, it is not really
a suprise that there are some problems. The aboriginals are not
naturally a violent race.

Why, then, does their equipmemt include spears, shields and clubs?

Post by g***@gmail.com

Post by Stuart Fenech
Exposed to alcohol, some indeed are
violent, as is the case with many other races.

You misspelt "all".

Post by g***@gmail.com

Post by Stuart Fenech
I think there are dangers in making any gross generalisations
based on limited information.

Yet you did so repeatedly above.

Post by g***@gmail.com

Post by Stuart Fenech
A race not previously exposed to
alcohol has problems when exposed to it. It's not a matter of
evolved or not... there's a problem, and we need to work at it.

Agree, Have read studies that Aboriginal brain weight on average
is half a pound lighter than Corcasions.

Where?

Post by g***@gmail.com
This is because they
adapted early and so were an advanced form of humanity at their
time

That is pseudo-scientific gobbledigook.

Post by g***@gmail.com
before other civilisations.

Australian aborigines never developed civilisation.

Post by g***@gmail.com
archaeologist's

The plural of "archaeologist" is "archaeologists".

Post by g***@gmail.com
have even found pottery and early forms of star
charts.

Where?

Post by g***@gmail.com
However, climatic effects such as flooding prevented
them from advancing but made them proficient nomads.

That is more pseudo-scientific gobbledigook.

Ned

[Alterego]

Agree

I am so glad you agree with yourself.

[Jeßus]

Post by Stuart Fenech
Exposed to new diets, alcohol, viruses, etc, it is not really a suprise that
there are some problems. The aboriginals are not naturally a violent race.

ROTFL. They were very violent between tribes, well before European
colonisation. And that is well known.

[Pelican]

Post by Jeßus

Post by Stuart Fenech
Exposed to new diets, alcohol, viruses, etc, it is not really a suprise that
there are some problems. The aboriginals are not naturally a violent race.

ROTFL. They were very violent between tribes, well before European
colonisation. And that is well known.

They were very violent within tribes. Still are.

[Jeßus]

On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:46:57 +1000, Pelican

Post by Pelican

Post by Jeßus

Post by Stuart Fenech
Exposed to new diets, alcohol, viruses, etc, it is not really a suprise that
there are some problems. The aboriginals are not naturally a violent race.

ROTFL. They were very violent between tribes, well before European
colonisation. And that is well known.

They were very violent within tribes. Still are.

True.

[Dechucka]

Post by Pelican

Post by Jeßus

Post by Stuart Fenech
Exposed to new diets, alcohol, viruses, etc, it is not really a suprise that
there are some problems. The aboriginals are not naturally a violent race.

ROTFL. They were very violent between tribes, well before European
colonisation. And that is well known.

They were very violent within tribes. Still are.

So they are dinky dy aussies!!!

[Luke Webber]

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

And you're asking in aus.politics? Yeah, right. Troll on.

Luke

[netvegetable]

A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat less
evolved in many cases.

[snip]

For a start you use the term "evolved" somewhat erroneously. To say they are
less "evolved" than us, assumes that Evolution is a form of progress. It's
not, just a random process.

Are aborigines less smart than non indigenous Australians? Well I've
seen an aboriginal woman track a single feral cat through 50km of dense
scrub. That's something I can't do. I'd say the average tribal hunter
gatherer has certain intellectual skills that neither you nor I have.

Would aborigines statistically have a lower IQ than the rest of us? I'd
say that's almost a certainty. And the reason for that is economic.
Various statistical studies show that there is a big IQ gap between rich
and poor.

[VH-CBR]

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

I view anyone with a mono brow and with dark skin as a troublemaker.

In terms of brain capacity, its no wonder they lacl brain mass after
all the petrol they sniff.

[Aussie Bob]

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.

Yes.

Post by Christopher M. J
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?

Yes

Post by Christopher M. J
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

[Iskandar Baharuddin]

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.

Yes.

Post by Christopher M. J
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?

Yes

Post by Christopher M. J
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

Aborigines often exhibit extraordinary hand-eye co-ordination.

In prmary school my youngest son had a classmate named Ricky Kickett.

Ricky was not much of a student. However, he could pluck a fly out of the
air with thumb and forefinger.

My son said he never saw Ricky miss a fly. (And my son never succeeded in
catching one.)

At the end of the day there was a sizeable pile of dead flies on his desk.

He should be playing AFL, but in all probability the grog got him.

Very, very sad.

Izzy

[~Nins~]

Aussie Bob wrote:
|| "Christopher M. J" <***@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
|| news:***@posting.google.com...
||| A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
||| less evolved in many cases.
|||
||| Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
||| doubts.
||
|| Yes.
||
||| Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in
||| my classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling
||| havce been post secondary.
|||
||| Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness
||| (see redfern)
|||
||| It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
||| that mean they have less brain area?
||
|| Yes

General question: Isn't it more about what you do with what you have rather
than how much you have, or don't have?

[Stan Pierce]

Post by ~Nins~
||| A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
||| less evolved in many cases.
|||
||| Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
||| doubts.
||
|| Yes.
||
||| Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in
||| my classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling
||| havce been post secondary.
|||
||| Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness
||| (see redfern)
|||
||| It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
||| that mean they have less brain area?
||
|| Yes
General question: Isn't it more about what you do with what you have rather
than how much you have, or don't have?

It's possible, just possible, that aboriginals have never seen educated men
doing intelligent things. I get the impression from their behaviour that
all they have ever witnessed in life is men coming out of pubs or football
grounds and racing tracks and swearing their heads off. Most boys do what
they see the men do. So the moral is ?

Stan Pierce.

[Lions Growl of Butchers Foul]

Post by Stan Pierce
It's possible, just possible, that aboriginals have never seen educated men
doing intelligent things. I get the impression from their behaviour that
all they have ever witnessed in life is men coming out of pubs or football
grounds and racing tracks and swearing their heads off. Most boys do what
they see the men do. So the moral is ?

A mate of mine was teaching in a school that was in the final stage of white-flight failure.

He was asked to accompany a child to the front office and wait with it while its father came to deal with said child's expulsion from the classroom for "swearing at the teacher".

The father duly arrived (no problems there, nobody who actually had a job sent their child to this particular school).
He grabbed his son by the arm and yelled at him words to the effect: "What the f#$@ are you swearing at the teacher for you little c@#%?"

[xtremegreen]

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.

According to Capain James Cooks chronicles. The Australian Aboriginals
only needed to 'work' for 2 to 3 hours per day to survive. Compare this to
the ever increasing workloads and diminishing returnes now burdening
Australians.
If you have the time, define 'intelligence' for me.

[Eunometic]

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.

They are just as evolved as other races, only adapted differently:

1 The visual memory of aborigines is much better as tests show. The
visual cortex is larger. This helped them navigate and track.

2 Some have apparently a mechanism for shuting down blood flow to the
legs to conserve heat.

3 They have no experience with alcohol, unlike Europeans whose
alcaholic ancestors died thosands of years ago.

4 Low adaption to starchy high gycemic index high sugar spike
response foods or fatty meats. They went from wild food to junk food
in 3 instead of 30 generations.

5 Inability to cope with influenza.

6 IQ test measure several components of intelligence and sum them into
a weighted average called the IQ. Close examination of the various
types of IQ test show a bias: eg visuo spatial and lignuistic logic
between the various races even if they have similar IQs.

Unfortunately by preventing the study of racial differences the
anti-racist left has prevented us from understanding the cognitive and
psychological differences that probaly shape aboriginals. Therefore
we can't respect them or tailor our laws and policies to sympathise
with their needs

http://old.smh.com.au/news/0012/03/features/features2.html
"Australian Aborigines have long been famous for their ability to
navigate the trackless wastes, to find water holes and locate animal
lairs. Modern testing has shown that this is because they excel in
what is called 'visual memory.' On average, they perform about 50
percent better than whites when asked to recall what they saw in a
room or picture. For 4,000 generations --- about 80,000 years ---
Aborigines were hunter-gatherers in the harsh Australian interior, an
environment that put a strong premium on remembering landmarks that
could mean the differences between death and survival.

"Now Clive Harper, a professor of pathology in Sydney, Australia,
reports that the visual cortex, which processes visual information, is
about 25 percent larger in Aborigines than in whites and has more
nerve cells. He points out that no one really knows how the visual
cortex works, but the difference in size suggests inherently superior
spatial ability. However, racial differences in brain structure are a
very unfashionable area of study, and Prof. Harper has been unable to
publish his work in any scientific journal. Editors are 'anxious that
this was going to be seen as some form of discrimination,' says Prof
Harper. The organizers of a conference in the United States also
refused to let him present his work." [Alasdair Palmer, The
Difference, Sunday Telegraph (London), Nov. 19, 2000.]

Or read this:
http://old.smh.com.au/news/0012/03/features/features2.html


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Christopher M. J]

Exellent post, I find it annoying that mainstream scientific, medical
outlets won't publish any sort of those articles, because if they do,
bang they are sued by every anti-discrimination league around.
Political Correctness gone way too far.

Post by Eunometic

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.

1 The visual memory of aborigines is much better as tests show. The
visual cortex is larger. This helped them navigate and track.
2 Some have apparently a mechanism for shuting down blood flow to the
legs to conserve heat.
3 They have no experience with alcohol, unlike Europeans whose
alcaholic ancestors died thosands of years ago.
4 Low adaption to starchy high gycemic index high sugar spike
response foods or fatty meats. They went from wild food to junk food
in 3 instead of 30 generations.
5 Inability to cope with influenza.
6 IQ test measure several components of intelligence and sum them into
a weighted average called the IQ. Close examination of the various
types of IQ test show a bias: eg visuo spatial and lignuistic logic
between the various races even if they have similar IQs.
Unfortunately by preventing the study of racial differences the
anti-racist left has prevented us from understanding the cognitive and
psychological differences that probaly shape aboriginals. Therefore
we can't respect them or tailor our laws and policies to sympathise
with their needs
http://old.smh.com.au/news/0012/03/features/features2.html
"Australian Aborigines have long been famous for their ability to
navigate the trackless wastes, to find water holes and locate animal
lairs. Modern testing has shown that this is because they excel in
what is called 'visual memory.' On average, they perform about 50
percent better than whites when asked to recall what they saw in a
room or picture. For 4,000 generations --- about 80,000 years ---
Aborigines were hunter-gatherers in the harsh Australian interior, an
environment that put a strong premium on remembering landmarks that
could mean the differences between death and survival.
"Now Clive Harper, a professor of pathology in Sydney, Australia,
reports that the visual cortex, which processes visual information, is
about 25 percent larger in Aborigines than in whites and has more
nerve cells. He points out that no one really knows how the visual
cortex works, but the difference in size suggests inherently superior
spatial ability. However, racial differences in brain structure are a
very unfashionable area of study, and Prof. Harper has been unable to
publish his work in any scientific journal. Editors are 'anxious that
this was going to be seen as some form of discrimination,' says Prof
Harper. The organizers of a conference in the United States also
refused to let him present his work." [Alasdair Palmer, The
Difference, Sunday Telegraph (London), Nov. 19, 2000.]
http://old.smh.com.au/news/0012/03/features/features2.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Lions Growl of Butchers Foul]

Post by Eunometic
1 The visual memory of aborigines is much better as tests show. The
visual cortex is larger. This helped them navigate and track.

A mate of mine was once talking to a local down near the NT/SA/WA corner, and the local described the planet Jupiter along the lines of "The big feller with the 3 little brothers".

We never quite decided whether it was a wind-up or not...

[k***@gmail.com]

There are three problems with what you are saying:
1 - you don't have sufficient data to make a case either way. All your reasoning is based on a very subjective personal observation which doesn't hold a lot of validity.
2 - what constitutes an aboriginal, there are many aboriginal people ranging from dark to light skin with different genetic differences. There are also many genetic differences between different aboriginal groups, for instance; a yolngu man from the Northern Territory compared to a koori from Southern Victoria.
3 - a lot of research is out there which suggests poor Academic success is caused by many factors I.e intelligence, confidence, organisational skills, health, mental health, ability to argue, rational and critical thinking. So using academic success as an indicator of intelligence would result in some inconsistent findings.

My suggestion to you is to consider this, educate yourself on indigenous people and culture (not Wikipedia), learn more about intelligence and how it is measured, as well as what the causal factors of intelligence are and if they can be manipulated for a different outcome.

This a very heated argument and lives hang in the balance, perhaps consider the social implications before sharing your opinion.

[Topaz]

The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
people in India.

All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke.


www.tomatobubble.com www.ihr.org http://nationalvanguard.org

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com

[Truth and honesty]

Post by Topaz
It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
the Black race.

http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries-with-the-highest-lowest-average-iq/

[Topaz]

http://www.rense.com/general77/racedif.htm
Race Differences In Average IQ Are Mostly Genetic, Not Cultural
Medical Research News

A 60-page review of the scientific evidence, some based on
state-of-the-art magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) of brain size, has
concluded that race differences in average IQ are largely genetic...

"Neither the existence nor the size of race differences in IQ are a
matter of dispute, only their cause," write the authors. The
Black-White difference has been found consistently from the time of
the massive World War I Army testing of 90 years ago to a massive
study of over 6 million corporate, military, and higher-education
test-takers in 2001.

"Race differences show up by 3 years of age, even after matching on
maternal education and other variables," said Rushton. "Therefore they
cannot be due to poor education since this has not yet begun to exert
an effect. That's why Jensen and I looked at the genetic hypothesis in
detail...

The Worldwide Pattern of IQ Scores. East Asians average higher on IQ
tests than Whites,
both in the U. S. and in Asia, even though IQ tests were developed for
use in the Euro-American culture. Around the world, the average IQ for
East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks
about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa...

Brain Size Differences. Studies using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI)
find a correlation of brain size with IQ of about 0.40. Larger brains
contain more neurons and synapses and process information faster. Race
differences in brain size are present at birth. By adulthood, East
Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites who
average 5 cubic inches more than Blacks...

Racial Admixture Studies. Black children with lighter skin, for
example, average higher IQ scores. In South Africa, the IQ of the
mixed-race "Colored" population averages 85, intermediate to the
African 70 and White 100...

No interventions such as ending segregation, introducing school
busing, or "Head Start" programs have reduced the gaps as culture-only
theory would predict...


www.tomatobubble.com www.ihr.org http://nationalvanguard.org

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com

[f***@gmail.com]

Aborigines are modern fuckin apes

[SG1]

Post by f***@gmail.com
Aborigines are modern fuckin apes

The term you used is a descriptor of every native race, oh and that includes
whities as well.

[Jeßus]

Post by SG1

Post by f***@gmail.com
Aborigines are modern fuckin apes

The term you used is a descriptor of every native race, oh and that includes
whities as well.

Petzl won't like that.

[Sanitizer]

Post by f***@gmail.com
Aborigines are modern fuckin apes

...while you are so bloody proud of your stone age Neandertaler
heritage....???

[Fran Snortilus]

Post by f***@gmail.com
Aborigines are modern fuckin apes

But the knuckle dragging dimwit who signs itself fjavid2001 and who uses
gmail is far more of a fucking ape than any Aboriginal.

[g***@gmail.com]

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

Have read studies that Aboriginal brain weight on average is half a pound lighter than Corcasions. This is because they adapted early and so were an advanced form of humanity at their time before other civilisations.
archaeologist's have even found pottery and early forms of star charts. However, climatic effects such as flooding prevented them from advancing but made them proficient nomads.

[Alterego]

Post by g***@gmail.com
brain weight

Do you have any?

[g***@gmail.com]

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

Have read studies that Aboriginal brain weight on average is half a pound lighter than Corcasions. This is because they adapted early and so were an advanced form of humanity at their time before other civilisations.
archaeologist's have even found pottery and early forms of star charts. However, climatic effects such as flooding prevented them from advancing but made them proficient nomads.

[Alterego]

Post by g***@gmail.com
Have read

Really?

[g***@gmail.com]

Have read studies that Aboriginal brain weight on average is half a pound lighter than Corcasions. This is because they adapted early and so were an advanced form of humanity at their time before other civilisations.
archaeologist's have even found pottery and early forms of star charts. However, climatic effects such as flooding prevented them from advancing but made them proficient nomads.

[Alterego]

Post by g***@gmail.com
Corcasions

Really?

[g***@gmail.com]

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

Have read studies that Aboriginal brain weight on average is half a pound lighter than Corcasions. This is because they adapted early and so were an advanced form of humanity at their time before other civilisations.
archaeologist's have even found pottery and early forms of star charts. However, climatic effects such as flooding prevented them from advancing but made them proficient nomads.

[SG1]

Post by g***@gmail.com

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

Have read studies that Aboriginal brain weight on average is half a pound
lighter than Corcasions. This is because they adapted early and so were an
advanced form of humanity at their time before other civilisations.
archaeologist's have even found pottery and early forms of star charts.
However, climatic effects such as flooding prevented them from advancing
but made them proficient nomads.

Wow 5 responses saying the same thing. Who are you trying to impress? Must
be Pretzel!!!!

[Jeßus]

Post by SG1
Wow 5 responses saying the same thing. Who are you trying to impress? Must
be Pretzel!!!!

Muslim Aboriginals must make his brain explode.

[Pelican]

Post by Jeßus

Post by SG1
Wow 5 responses saying the same thing. Who are you trying to impress? Must
be Pretzel!!!!

Muslim Aboriginals must make his brain explode.

The condition precedent isn't met.

[Alterego]

Post by g***@gmail.com
Corcasions

Really?

[Jeßus]

Post by g***@gmail.com

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

Have read studies that Aboriginal brain weight on average is half a pound lighter than Corcasions. This is because they adapted early and so were an advanced form of humanity at their time before other civilisations.
archaeologist's have even found pottery and early forms of star charts. However, climatic effects such as flooding prevented them from advancing but made them proficient nomads.

Yeah. We got your message the first 478 times. No need to post it
again. I guess that means your brain weight must be half that of
Aboriginals.

[Pelican]

Post by Jeßus

Post by g***@gmail.com

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

Have read studies that Aboriginal brain weight on average is half a pound lighter than Corcasions. This is because they adapted early and so were an advanced form of humanity at their time before other civilisations.
archaeologist's have even found pottery and early forms of star charts. However, climatic effects such as flooding prevented them from advancing but made them proficient nomads.

Yeah. We got your message the first 478 times. No need to post it
again. I guess that means your brain weight must be half that of
Aboriginals.

He stutters - no reason to criticise him for that disability.

[Fran Snortilus]

Post by g***@gmail.com
Have read

Please learn how to set your line length. Brain weight has nothing to
do with Aus politics.

[k***@gmail.com]

Post by Christopher M. J
A serious question, they seem physically and intellectually somewhat
less evolved in many cases.
Not all, there are many educated and hard working ones out there, no
doubts.
Although in 13 years of prep-vce I never had a single aboriginal in my
classes at any point. Only aboriginals i've met in schooling havce
been post secondary.
Their behaviours regarding alcahol, violence and destructiveness (see
redfern)
It's been found that aboriginals in cases have thicker skulls, does
that mean they have less brain area?
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

Yes it is an interesting question but in fact it has recently been shown that there were two periods at about 40,000 and 55,000 years ago, that the Europeans interbred with Neanderthals, an obviously LESS evolved species. This interbreeding did in fact result in 2% to 4% of their DNA being regressive Neanderthal. European evolution took a step backward during that time.

Meanwhile, during that European fuckfest with Neanderthals, the aboriginals were remaining on an consistently upward evolutionary progression.

American aboriginals were moving to America at about that time, and would not have encountered Neanderthals.

I agree with others here than any deficiencies seen in Natives here is a result of the attempted genocide on them, and the abuse that continues in some lesser degree today. School is so utterly difficult when dealing with a history of abuse. The Natives lack of success in our world is due to white people.

As for the evolutionary regression of Europeans, their behaviors seem to bear out that fact - warmongering, abusive, a lack or real spiritualism, and hungry for sex at all times.

I am white.

[Annona Muricata]

/snip crap/

Post by Christopher M. J
I'm not starting a flame war or anything, i'm just asking a serious
quesion.

This Google Groups troll is lying. This post was a typical troll, far
from anything serious, sensible or sane! But to all intentions was
working hard at stirring up shit!

Yes it is .../snip/

Your attempt to reason with a provocative racist troll is like trying to
reason with your kitchen sink!

I am white.

Who cares ... I am lavender with green stripes on to boot!