Post by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshPost by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshPost by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshBob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
Post by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshPost by Steve Barber"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
First published on Sat 12 Aug 2017 11.48 EDT
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One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
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The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
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Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
Post by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshDo YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
Post by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshPost by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshPost by Steve Barberthing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-escapes-fec-punishment-paid-actors-at-presidential-announcement-966428
Post by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshHis campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
Post by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshAs Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
IBID
Post by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshOn June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
Post by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshPost by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshPost by Steve Barberdivided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
Post by Anthony MarshAgain, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
Post by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshPost by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshPost by Steve Barberwho overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
Post by Anthony MarshPost by Steve BarberTake that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
Post by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshPost by Steve BarberPost by Anthony MarshPost by Steve BarberThat which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.