Who speaks for the child?

[jdyoung]

There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish. Men, despite having little legal
recourse, can still make their voices heard. The baby, however, has no
voice at all when it comes to deciding whether it will live or die.
Despite the bias exhibited by liberal atheists towards clergymen,
these same clergymen should be appointed as guardians of the child
while the mother is pregnant. Children need and deserve a voice.



J Young
***@ymail.com


"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women.
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta ~

[a322x1n]

There are...

SNIPPED at very start of very first lie, why continue?

"Abortion saves twice. It saves the body of the woman and it saves the
future of all society. Abortion is profoundly pro-women. ~ Blessed
Mother Teresa of Calcutta ~

Learn the truth, "J":

<http://tinyurl.com/nrd33o4>

<http://wonkette.com/605773/texas-defunding-of-planned-parenthood-
improving-womens-health-by-killing-them>

<http://tinyurl.com/hymyr43

<http://www.vox.com/2016/8/30/12709638/teen-pregnancy-birth-control>

<http://tinyurl.com/hv52cog>

<http://tinyurl.com/p78s6nl>

<http://tinyurl.com/q8ufgvj>

<http://tinyurl.com/nppjsbe>

<http://tinyurl.com/257n5k6>

<http://tinyurl.com/ovqrxv6>

<http://rhrealitycheck.org/>

<http://www.plannedparenthood.org>

<http://www.prochoice.org>

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood>

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger>

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_pro-choice_movement>

<http://www.mariestopes.org>

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Stopes_International>

<https://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/15/1412371/-New-England-
Journal-Of-Medicine-Will-Spin-GOP-Anti-Choice-Heads-And-Expose-The-Truth-
About-PP?detail=emailclassic>

<http://tinyurl.com/q45xwfv>

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

[Ian Harris]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

[Archbishop Don Kool - A National Treasure, Making America Great Again!]

Post by Ian Harris
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

Fat Jeanne can't. Her womb is barren.

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Archbishop Don Kool - A National Treasure, Making America Great Again!

Post by Ian Harris
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

Fat Jeanne can't. Her womb is barren.

I'm long past the menopause, so, yeah, of course. What's your point?

[Kevrob]

Post by Archbishop Don Kool - A National Treasure, Making America Great Again!

Post by Ian Harris
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

Fat Jeanne can't. Her womb is barren.

Again with the insults.

This is how you "love your neighbor as yourself."

You pompous, hypocritical, self-aggrandizing prig.

Post by Archbishop Don Kool - A National Treasure, Making America Great Again!
Try God!

Not any ghod you'd worship, who'd have to be a moral
monster to have the likes of you as an internet-"ordained"
minister, MacDonald.

Post by Archbishop Don Kool - A National Treasure, Making America Great Again!
See you in church.

I might show up for your funeral, on the Samuel Goldwyn/
Louis Meyer principle.* Otherwise, no.

Stop proselytizing in the group, it;s against the charter,
you evil troll.

Kevin R

* http://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/11/03/funeral-crowd/

[Archbishop Don Kool - A National Treasure, Making America Great Again!]

Post by Kevrob

Post by Archbishop Don Kool - A National Treasure, Making America Great Again!

Post by Ian Harris
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

Fat Jeanne can't. Her womb is barren.

Again with the insults.

No, the facts.

[Kevrob]

Post by Archbishop Don Kool - A National Treasure, Making America Great Again!

Post by Kevrob
Again with the insults.

No, the facts.

I don't agree, but still, no charity, no "agape."

When I was a Christian, my teachers in that faith would
have told me I was being a very poor one, acting as you do.

I see you concede that you are a pompous, hypocritical,
self-aggrandizing prig of a troll. That's progress, I guess.

Kevin R

[Archbishop Don Kool - A National Treasure, Making America Great Again!]

Post by Kevrob

Post by Archbishop Don Kool - A National Treasure, Making America Great Again!

Post by Kevrob
Again with the insults.

No, the facts.

I don't agree, but still, no charity, no "agape."
When I was a Christian, my teachers in that faith would
have told me I was being a very poor one, acting as you do.

Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and
petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.

Philippians 4:6

Post by Kevrob
Kevin R

[Kevrob]

Post by Archbishop Don Kool - A National Treasure, Making America Great Again!

Post by Kevrob

Post by Archbishop Don Kool - A National Treasure, Making America Great Again!

Post by Kevrob
Again with the insults.

No, the facts.

I don't agree, but still, no charity, no "agape."
When I was a Christian, my teachers in that faith would
have told me I was being a very poor one, acting as you do.

Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and
petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.
Philippians 4:6

Duck, dodge, weave, quote babble.

"present my requests to...." some imaginary being? No, thank you.

Again, you troll.

Kevin R

[hypatiab7]

Post by Ian Harris
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

There is no baby until the fetus has left the woman's body and breathes
on its own. Until then, it is a parasite in the woman's body that might
possibly become a baby.

[Don Martin]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:05:38 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7

Post by hypatiab7

Post by Ian Harris
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

There is no baby until the fetus has left the woman's body and breathes
on its own. Until then, it is a parasite in the woman's body that might
possibly become a baby.

The significance of god giving a blow job to the clay to create Adam
has passed him by entirely. No breath = no human.

[hypatiab7]

Post by Don Martin
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:05:38 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7

Post by hypatiab7

Post by Ian Harris
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

There is no baby until the fetus has left the woman's body and breathes
on its own. Until then, it is a parasite in the woman's body that might
possibly become a baby.

The significance of god giving a blow job to the clay to create Adam
has passed him by entirely. No breath = no human.

Excellent point. I wonder how many theists will actually think about it.

[%]

Post by hypatiab7

Post by Don Martin
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:05:38 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7

On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 7:36:11 PM UTC-4, Archbishop Don Kool

Post by Ian Harris
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or
not; the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

There is no baby until the fetus has left the woman's body and breathes
on its own. Until then, it is a parasite in the woman's body that might
possibly become a baby.

The significance of god giving a blow job to the clay to create Adam
has passed him by entirely. No breath = no human.

Excellent point. I wonder how many theists will actually think about it.

theists don't need to wonder if there's a god ,
they have an atheist right here saying there is

" The significance of god "

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by hypatiab7

Post by Don Martin
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:05:38 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7

Post by hypatiab7

Post by Ian Harris
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

There is no baby until the fetus has left the woman's body and breathes
on its own. Until then, it is a parasite in the woman's body that might
possibly become a baby.

The significance of god giving a blow job to the clay to create Adam
has passed him by entirely. No breath = no human.

Excellent point. I wonder how many theists will actually think about it.

Even their bible states quite unequivacobly that there's no person until first breath.

[aaa]

Post by Don Martin
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:05:38 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7

Post by hypatiab7

Post by Ian Harris
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

There is no baby until the fetus has left the woman's body and breathes
on its own. Until then, it is a parasite in the woman's body that might
possibly become a baby.

The significance of god giving a blow job to the clay to create Adam
has passed him by entirely. No breath = no human.

That only shows how lowly and stupid you understand God's work. Without
breath, there can be no heartbeat. Since babies in the worm do beat
their hearts strongly and independently, it shows Gods' work happened
long before the baby is born. You lose.

[Lucifer Morningstar]

Post by aaa

Post by Don Martin
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:05:38 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7

Post by hypatiab7

Post by Ian Harris
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

There is no baby until the fetus has left the woman's body and breathes
on its own. Until then, it is a parasite in the woman's body that might
possibly become a baby.

The significance of god giving a blow job to the clay to create Adam
has passed him by entirely. No breath = no human.

That only shows how lowly and stupid you understand God's work.

That's because your idea of God's work is lowly and stupid.

Post by aaa
Without breath, there can be no heartbeat. Since babies in the worm
do beat their hearts strongly and independently, it shows Gods' work
happened long before the baby is born. You lose.

With your God we all lose.
At what point in the worm does God force it's way into the baby's
heart?

[aaa]

Post by Lucifer Morningstar

Post by aaa

Post by Don Martin
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:05:38 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7

Post by hypatiab7

Post by Ian Harris
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

There is no baby until the fetus has left the woman's body and breathes
on its own. Until then, it is a parasite in the woman's body that might
possibly become a baby.

The significance of god giving a blow job to the clay to create Adam
has passed him by entirely. No breath = no human.

That only shows how lowly and stupid you understand God's work.

That's because your idea of God's work is lowly and stupid.

That would be your idea.

Post by Lucifer Morningstar

Post by aaa
Without breath, there can be no heartbeat. Since babies in the worm
do beat their hearts strongly and independently, it shows Gods' work
happened long before the baby is born. You lose.

With your God we all lose.
At what point in the worm does God force it's way into the baby's
heart?

God is omnipresent in all living things. Life is a manifestation of God.

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Ian Harris
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:08:07 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Please explain

It's either a brain fart or my forger is having a little fun.

It's more likely to be the former. I was probably reading the prejudicial nonsense about killing a child while I was typing. Sometimes, trying to multitask can lead to hilarious results.

So, allow me to correct:

There is no baby until birth.

[Bob Officer]

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Birth?

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby.

There is no baby until death.

Birth?

Yep. Probable brain fart.

[Cloud Hobbit]

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish. Men, despite having little legal
recourse, can still make their voices heard. The baby, however, has no
voice at all when it comes to deciding whether it will live or die.
Despite the bias exhibited by liberal atheists towards clergymen,
these same clergymen should be appointed as guardians of the child
while the mother is pregnant. Children need and deserve a voice.
J Young
"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women.
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta ~

If you are going to quote a vile old cunt like Mother Teresa, nobody's going to give a fuck what you say. You already have given evidence that you are either crazy or a sadist. The whole holocaust denial bullshit doesn't help. Then there's quoting that fat fuck Donohue from the Catholic League.

There's really is no reason to give a fuck what you say.

BTW giving a woman the right to terminate a pregnancy is simply the right to control one's own life. Expecting every woman to give birth to every accidental pregnancy is deny that right. In rape cases, it is torture and violation twice.

Of course, the tissue mass growing into a person doesn't have a say, the person carrying that tissue mass has precedence because that person is already here and has a life And will be responsible for supporting a life she may not be able to afford.

You want the power to ruin the lives of women and their unwanted children as well. You ARE a sadist.

[j***@gmail.com]

Cloud Hobbit
- show quoted text -
If you are going to quote a vile old cunt like Mother Teresa, nobody's going to give a fuck what you say. You already have given evidence that you are either crazy or a sadist. The whole holocaust denial bullshit doesn't help. Then there's quoting that fat fuck Donohue from the Catholic League.

There's really is no reason to give a fuck what you say
..........

And yet you do.

[jdyoung]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 02:34:56 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Cloud Hobbit

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish. Men, despite having little legal
recourse, can still make their voices heard. The baby, however, has no
voice at all when it comes to deciding whether it will live or die.
Despite the bias exhibited by liberal atheists towards clergymen,
these same clergymen should be appointed as guardians of the child
while the mother is pregnant. Children need and deserve a voice.
J Young
"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women.
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta ~

If you are going to quote a vile old cunt like Mother Teresa, nobody's going to give a fuck what you say. You already have given evidence that you are either crazy or a sadist. The whole holocaust denial bullshit doesn't help. Then there's quoting that fat fuck Donohue from the Catholic League.
There's really is no reason to give a fuck what you say.

Please feel free at any time to post proof that I have ever denied the
Holocaust. As for Mother Teresa and Dr. Donahue, just because you
disagree with them, that doesn't mean that they don't have legions of
people who care very much about what they say.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
BTW giving a woman the right to terminate a pregnancy is simply the right to control one's own life. Expecting every woman to give birth to every accidental pregnancy is deny that right. In rape cases, it is torture and violation twice.

Where do you live that the women are constantly being raped? In those
rare cases where it does happen, why should the child pay for the sins
of the father?

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Of course, the tissue mass growing into a person doesn't have a say, the person carrying that tissue mass has precedence because that person is already here and has a life And will be responsible for supporting a life she may not be able to afford.

Then perhaps such women should alter their lifestyles and show a
little self-control.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
You want the power to ruin the lives of women and their unwanted children as well. You ARE a sadist.

You want to kill innocent babies and then have the audacity to call
someone else a "sadist".


J Young
***@ymail.com


http://www.americandecency.org/

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by jdyoung
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 02:34:56 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Cloud Hobbit

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish. Men, despite having little legal
recourse, can still make their voices heard. The baby, however, has no
voice at all when it comes to deciding whether it will live or die.
Despite the bias exhibited by liberal atheists towards clergymen,
these same clergymen should be appointed as guardians of the child
while the mother is pregnant. Children need and deserve a voice.
J Young
"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women.
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta ~

If you are going to quote a vile old cunt like Mother Teresa, nobody's going to give a fuck what you say. You already have given evidence that you are either crazy or a sadist. The whole holocaust denial bullshit doesn't help. Then there's quoting that fat fuck Donohue from the Catholic League.
There's really is no reason to give a fuck what you say.

Please feel free at any time to post proof that I have ever denied the
Holocaust. As for Mother Teresa and Dr. Donahue, just because you
disagree with them, that doesn't mean that they don't have legions of
people who care very much about what they say.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
BTW giving a woman the right to terminate a pregnancy is simply the right to control one's own life. Expecting every woman to give birth to every accidental pregnancy is deny that right. In rape cases, it is torture and violation twice.

Where do you live that the women are constantly being raped? In those
rare cases where it does happen, why should the child pay for the sins
of the father?

It happens over 30,000 times every year in America.

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by jdyoung

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish. Men, despite having little legal
recourse, can still make their voices heard. The baby, however, has no
voice at all when it comes to deciding whether it will live or die.
Despite the bias exhibited by liberal atheists towards clergymen,
these same clergymen should be appointed as guardians of the child
while the mother is pregnant. Children need and deserve a voice.
=20
=20
=20
J Young
=20
=20
"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the con=

science of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women.

Post by jdyoung
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta ~

If you are going to quote a vile old cunt like Mother Teresa, nobody's goin=
g to give a fuck what you say. You already have given evidence that you ar=
e either crazy or a sadist. The whole holocaust denial bullshit doesn't he=
lp. Then there's quoting that fat fuck Donohue from the Catholic League.=
=20
There's really is no reason to give a fuck what you say.
BTW giving a woman the right to terminate a pregnancy is simply the right t=
o control one's own life. Expecting every woman to give birth to every acc=
idental pregnancy is deny that right. In rape cases, it is torture and vio=
lation twice.
Of course, the tissue mass growing into a person doesn't have a say, the pe=
rson carrying that tissue mass has precedence because that person is alread=
y here and has a life And will be responsible for supporting a life she may=
not be able to afford.
You want the power to ruin the lives of women and their unwanted children a=
s well. You ARE a sadist.

Sadism + misogyny = a really sick fuck

Because they are slaves to their testosterone, women must be punished.

[hypatiab7]

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish. Men, despite having little legal
recourse, can still make their voices heard. The baby, however, has no
voice at all when it comes to deciding whether it will live or die.
Despite the bias exhibited by liberal atheists towards clergymen,
these same clergymen should be appointed as guardians of the child
while the mother is pregnant. Children need and deserve a voice.
=20
=20
=20
J Young
=20
=20
"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the con=

science of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women.

Post by jdyoung
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta ~

If you are going to quote a vile old cunt like Mother Teresa, nobody's goin=
g to give a fuck what you say. You already have given evidence that you ar=
e either crazy or a sadist. The whole holocaust denial bullshit doesn't he=
lp. Then there's quoting that fat fuck Donohue from the Catholic League.=
=20
There's really is no reason to give a fuck what you say.
BTW giving a woman the right to terminate a pregnancy is simply the right t=
o control one's own life. Expecting every woman to give birth to every acc=
idental pregnancy is deny that right. In rape cases, it is torture and vio=
lation twice.
Of course, the tissue mass growing into a person doesn't have a say, the pe=
rson carrying that tissue mass has precedence because that person is alread=
y here and has a life And will be responsible for supporting a life she may=
not be able to afford.
You want the power to ruin the lives of women and their unwanted children a=
s well. You ARE a sadist.

Sadism + misogyny = a really sick fuck
Because they are slaves to their testosterone, women must be punished.

Yep, the forger has come out of hibernation or an asylum or prison or a
coma caused by a drug overdose.

[%]

Post by hypatiab7

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by jdyoung

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish. Men, despite having little legal
recourse, can still make their voices heard. The baby, however,
has no voice at all when it comes to deciding whether it will live
or die. Despite the bias exhibited by liberal atheists towards
clergymen,
these same clergymen should be appointed as guardians of the child
while the mother is pregnant. Children need and deserve a voice.
=20
=20
=20
J Young
=20
=20
"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the con=

science of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women.

Post by jdyoung
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta ~

If you are going to quote a vile old cunt like Mother Teresa,
nobody's goin= g to give a fuck what you say. You already have
given evidence that you ar= e either crazy or a sadist. The whole
holocaust denial bullshit doesn't he= lp. Then there's quoting
that fat fuck Donohue from the Catholic League.= =20
There's really is no reason to give a fuck what you say.
BTW giving a woman the right to terminate a pregnancy is simply the
right t= o control one's own life. Expecting every woman to give
birth to every acc= idental pregnancy is deny that right. In rape
cases, it is torture and vio= lation twice.
Of course, the tissue mass growing into a person doesn't have a
say, the pe= rson carrying that tissue mass has precedence because
that person is alread= y here and has a life And will be
responsible for supporting a life she may= not be able to afford.
You want the power to ruin the lives of women and their unwanted
children a= s well. You ARE a sadist.

Sadism + misogyny = a really sick fuck
Because they are slaves to their testosterone, women must be
punished.

Yep, the forger has come out of hibernation or an asylum or prison or
a coma caused by a drug overdose.

you have to prove that or it doesn't exist

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

[Don Martin]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

From the cranial cesspool jdyoung is pleased to call his brain.

[John Locke]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:21:54 -0400, Don Martin

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

From the cranial cesspool jdyoung is pleased to call his brain.

...he needs to call Big Al's Septic Pumping service immediately.

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[Don Martin]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 11:53:27 -0700, John Locke

Post by John Locke
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:21:54 -0400, Don Martin

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

From the cranial cesspool jdyoung is pleased to call his brain.

...he needs to call Big Al's Septic Pumping service immediately.

One hopes his ear hole is capacious enough for Big Al's equipment.
His mouth, of course, certainly is.

[hleopold]

Post by John Locke
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:21:54 -0400, Don Martin

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

From the cranial cesspool jdyoung is pleased to call his brain.

...he needs to call Big Al's Septic Pumping service immediately.

Big Al’s is not that good, better he turn to Rothchilds’ Sewer Sucking
Service.
Red Green recommends it highly.

[Kevrob]

Post by hleopold

Post by John Locke
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:21:54 -0400, Don Martin

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

From the cranial cesspool jdyoung is pleased to call his brain.

...he needs to call Big Al's Septic Pumping service immediately.

Big Al’s is not that good, better he turn to Rothchilds’ Sewer Sucking
Service.
Red Green recommends it highly.
--

Winston Rothschild III's (note spelling!) firm may not be licensed
to operate in jd's state, or province. WRIII may not be licensed
beyond the town line, or maybe as far as Port Asbestos. :)

Whether, and when, the law should treat a product of conception
as a legal person is the proper way to state the issue. Even if
we were decide that a late-term fetus, one which, if delivered
prematurely could survive, and is physiologically similar enough
in terms of mental development to a born child that it can be
said to have an individual consciousness, the situation then as
regards abortion would be that of a conflict of rights. The
pregnant woman can't be required, for example, to risk her life
taking a risky pregnancy to term.

Early-term zygotes and embryos are not developed enough to feel
pain, let alone think. Unless you are informed by a religious
tradition that believes unborn "persons-to-be" have been issued
souls in utero, even before brains have developed enough to be
distinct individuals, treating them as anything other than _potential_
persons is silly. Not all religious traditions do that. Some
atheists are "pro-life" as those in favor of restrictive abortion
laws would name it.

http://www.secularprolife.org/

http://www.prolifehumanists.org/

Their position is not mine, but I respect them as intellectually
honest people, not cradle theists programmed to accept a dogma.

If I thought embryos, zygotes and young fetuses were "babies,"
I'd stand with them. I don't think the science backs them up.

"Does it have a pulse?" doesn't prove personhood.
"Has it ever been able to think?" is my standard.
At the end of life, we use brain death as a standard
for ending extraordinary care. The same at the start
of life would be plausible.

Kevin R

"Quando omni flunkus moritati"

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Kevrob
we were decide that a late-term fetus, one which, if delivered
prematurely could survive, and is physiologically similar enough
in terms of mental development to a born child that it can be
said to have an individual consciousness, the situation then as
regards abortion would be that of a conflict of rights. The
pregnant woman can't be required, for example, to risk her life
taking a risky pregnancy to term.

By that point the mother has endured the vomitting, the aching back, the
clumsiness of the change of centre of mass, circulation problems in her legs,
and all that, and still values the baby more than temporary discomfort and risk
of death or permanent injury. The only reasons I've heard of for aborting then
is because the child is already dead or dying and continuing risks the mother's
life or reproductive ability.

Families that have a late term abortion need all the comfort the world can
muster.


Fuck, man. Some couples are deeply committed to each and their children before
and after birth. They don't want a death in their family, not even an early term
miscarriage, and have a hard enough time coping without a bunch of fucking
assholes screaming at them. Systems like christianity emphasise nonjudgemental
compassion--you never really know what another person is going through. Give
them what you can spare so we don't create a hell on earth. If you believe in a
god, let them in their greater knowledge bless or curse what they choose.

[Patrick]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.

The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.

Do explain.

[Patrick]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:15:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?

Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have
been denied the right to life. This tragedy is a devastating mark upon
our culture, and even more sickening is that there is an entire
industry profiting from each child killed in the womb.

Roe v. Wade declared that an unborn baby is not a person.

What we need to work towards: Society recognizes the human dignity of
unborn babies.

The Court held that a woman's right to an abortion fell within the
right to privacy (recognized in Griswold v. Connecticut) protected by
the Fourteenth Amendment. The decision gave a woman total autonomy
over the pregnancy during the first trimester and defined different
levels of state interest for the second and third trimesters. As a
result, the laws of 46 states were affected by the Court's ruling.

Norma McCorvey, who identified herself as “Roe” in the landmark case,
ultimately admitted in her book I Am Roe that, upon advice from
feminist lawyers, she had lied she had been raped and was seeking an
abortion. In addition, McCorvey, who died in February, said she has
actually never had an abortion, and had placed her baby up for
adoption. She later became a Christian and a pro-life advocate.

+ Do you need any more explanation of this horror?

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have

Really? So what?

When Jesus sent out the missionaries, he didn't tell them to stand there
insulting villages that rejected them. He told them to shut up and leave. Their
god would judge them, not humans. Also Jesus lived among polytheitic Greeks and
Romans, and never said to scream out them or shoot Roman abortion doctors.
Actually he said to obey the authorities put over you, including polytheitic
Romans.

Don't get an abortion. Problem solved. You have obeyed the rules of your
religion as you understand them. Let others make their own choices. Is your god
really so weak he needs you to tell him how to judge and execute judgement for
him?

And you're still a heretic.

[Patrick]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have

Really? So what?

57 million babies have denied the right to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness.

Post by Siri Cruise
When Jesus sent out the missionaries,

Jesus did not personally choose these missionaries that were sent put
to spread the Good News of Jesus.

Post by Siri Cruise
he didn't tell them to stand there
insulting villages that rejected them.

True. Jesus didn't tell them that.

Post by Siri Cruise
He told them to shut up and leave.

Jesus did not tell them anything.

Post by Siri Cruise
Their
god would judge them, not humans. Also Jesus lived among polytheitic Greeks and
Romans, and never said to scream out them or shoot Roman abortion doctors.
Actually he said to obey the authorities put over you, including polytheitic
Romans.
Don't get an abortion. Problem solved. You have obeyed the rules of your
religion as you understand them. Let others make their own choices. Is your god
really so weak he needs you to tell him how to judge and execute judgement for
him?
And you're still a heretic.

Anyone who makes the choice to kill their own baby because they might
get inconvenienced by the punk - is a killer.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have

Really? So what?

57 million babies have denied the right to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness.

According to the Old Testament, they have less protection until birth. Children
in Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Florida, and elsewhere are fully human.
Also the adults. So how do you feel about the organised killing by the US
military?

Post by Patrick
Jesus did not personally choose these missionaries that were sent put
to spread the Good News of Jesus.

Matthew 10:1, 5-8

Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority
to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
...
These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions:
"Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the
Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. As you
go, proclaim this message: 'The kingdom of heaven has come
near.' Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who
have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received;
freely give. ..."

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
He told them to shut up and leave.

Jesus did not tell them anything.

Matthew 10:14-15

"...If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words,
leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.
Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and
Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town. ..."

Post by Patrick
Anyone who makes the choice to kill their own baby because they might
get inconvenienced by the punk - is a killer.

Thank goodness you're around to tell your god how to do his job.

[Patrick]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have

Really? So what?

57 million babies have denied the right to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness.

According to the Old Testament, they have less protection until birth.

Do you follow the Old testament?
I don't.

Post by Siri Cruise
Children
in Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Florida, and elsewhere are fully human.
Also the adults. So how do you feel about the organised killing by the US
military?

The US Military has organized murder in Florida?
What kind of bull shit are you trying to sell?

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Jesus did not personally choose these missionaries that were sent put
to spread the Good News of Jesus.

Matthew 10:1, 5-8
Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority
to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.

yeah. So what?
Jesus sent out his his disciples.... about 2000 years ago.
Are they still wandering around?



...

Post by Siri Cruise
"Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the
Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. As you
go, proclaim this message: 'The kingdom of heaven has come
near.' Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who
have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received;
freely give. ..."

yeah. So what?
Jesus sent out his his disciples.... about 2000 years ago.
Are they still wandering around?

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
He told them to shut up and leave.

Jesus did not tell them anything.

Matthew 10:14-15
"...If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words,
leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.
Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and
Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town. ..."

OK, if the people did not welcome the disciples (2000 years ago), they
were supposed to leave town.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Anyone who makes the choice to kill their own baby because they might
get inconvenienced by the punk - is a killer.

Thank goodness you're around to tell your god how to do his job.

The Bible never specifically addresses the issue of abortion. However,
there are numerous teachings in Scripture that make it abundantly
clear what God’s view of abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells us that God
knows us before He forms us in the womb. Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of
God’s active role in our creation and formation in the womb. Exodus
21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty—death—for someone who causes the
death of a baby in the womb as for someone who commits murder. This
clearly indicates that God considers a baby in the womb to be as human
as a full-grown adult. For the Christian, abortion is not a matter of
a woman’s right to choose. It is a matter of the life or death of a
human being made in God’s image (Genesis 1:26-27; 9:6).

Over 95 percent of the abortions performed today involve women who
simply do not want to have a baby. Less than 5 percent of abortions
are for the reasons of rape, incest, or the mother's health at risk.
Even in the more difficult 5 percent of instances, abortion should
never be the first option. The life of a human being in the womb is
worth every effort to allow the child to be born.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
According to the Old Testament, they have less protection until birth.

Do you follow the Old testament?
I don't.

Where does the New Testament mention abortion?

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
Children
in Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Florida, and elsewhere are fully human.
Also the adults. So how do you feel about the organised killing by the US
military?

The US Military has organized murder in Florida?
What kind of bull shit are you trying to sell?

So you approve of organised killing by the US military. He who lives by the
sword.....do you known the rest?

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Jesus did not personally choose these missionaries that were sent put
to spread the Good News of Jesus.

Matthew 10:1, 5-8
Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority
to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.

yeah. So what?
Jesus sent out his his disciples.... about 2000 years ago.
Are they still wandering around?
yeah. So what?
Jesus sent out his his disciples.... about 2000 years ago.
Are they still wandering around?
OK, if the people did not welcome the disciples (2000 years ago), they
were supposed to leave town.

A christian would say that Jesus is still teaching us. Your Jesus is dead. You
are not christian.

Post by Patrick
The Bible never specifically addresses the issue of abortion. However,
there are numerous teachings in Scripture that make it abundantly
clear what God’s view of abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells us that God
knows us before He forms us in the womb. Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of
God’s active role in our creation and formation in the womb. Exodus
21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty—death—for someone who causes the

Now you qoute the Old Testament, when it's convenient.

Post by Patrick
Over 95 percent of the abortions performed today involve women who

So don't have one yourself.

[j***@gmail.com]

Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
According to the Old Testament, they have less protection until birth.

Do you follow the Old testament?
I don't.

Where does the New Testament mention abortion?

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
Children
in Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Florida, and elsewhere are fully human.
Also the adults. So how do you feel about the organised killing by the US
military?

The US Military has organized murder in Florida?
What kind of bull shit are you trying to sell?

So you approve of organised killing by the US military. He who lives by the
sword.....do you known the rest?

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Jesus did not personally choose these missionaries that were sent put
to spread the Good News of Jesus.

Matthew 10:1, 5-8
Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority
to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.

yeah. So what?
Jesus sent out his his disciples.... about 2000 years ago.
Are they still wandering around?
yeah. So what?
Jesus sent out his his disciples.... about 2000 years ago.
Are they still wandering around?
OK, if the people did not welcome the disciples (2000 years ago), they
were supposed to leave town.

A christian would say that Jesus is still teaching us. Your Jesus is dead. You
are not christian.

Post by Patrick
The Bible never specifically addresses the issue of abortion. However,
there are numerous teachings in Scripture that make it abundantly
clear what God’s view of abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells us that God
knows us before He forms us in the womb. Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of
God’s active role in our creation and formation in the womb. Exodus
21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty—death—for someone who causes the

Now you qoute the Old Testament, when it's convenient.

Post by Patrick
Over 95 percent of the abortions performed today involve women who

So don't have one yourself
.........

If you think theft is wrong... dont be a theif yourself and dont push yr beliefs on everyone else.

[%]

Post by j***@gmail.com
Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
According to the Old Testament, they have less protection until birth.

Do you follow the Old testament?
I don't.

Where does the New Testament mention abortion?

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
Children
in Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Florida, and elsewhere are fully human.
Also the adults. So how do you feel about the organised killing by
the US military?

The US Military has organized murder in Florida?
What kind of bull shit are you trying to sell?

So you approve of organised killing by the US military. He who lives by the
sword.....do you known the rest?

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Jesus did not personally choose these missionaries that were sent
put to spread the Good News of Jesus.

Matthew 10:1, 5-8
Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority
to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and
sickness.

yeah. So what?
Jesus sent out his his disciples.... about 2000 years ago.
Are they still wandering around?
yeah. So what?
Jesus sent out his his disciples.... about 2000 years ago.
Are they still wandering around?
OK, if the people did not welcome the disciples (2000 years ago),
they were supposed to leave town.

A christian would say that Jesus is still teaching us. Your Jesus is dead. You
are not christian.

Post by Patrick
The Bible never specifically addresses the issue of abortion.
However, there are numerous teachings in Scripture that make it
abundantly clear what God’s view of abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells
us that God knows us before He forms us in the womb. Psalm 139:13-16
speaks of God’s active role in our creation and formation in the
womb. Exodus 21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty—death—for someone
who causes the

Now you qoute the Old Testament, when it's convenient.

Post by Patrick
Over 95 percent of the abortions performed today involve women who

So don't have one yourself
.........
If you think theft is wrong... dont be a theif yourself and dont
push yr beliefs on everyone else.

thou shall not kill

[Patrick]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
According to the Old Testament, they have less protection until birth.

Do you follow the Old testament?
I don't.

Where does the New Testament mention abortion?

Why should it?
It is called murder.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
Children
in Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Florida, and elsewhere are fully human.
Also the adults. So how do you feel about the organised killing by the US
military?

The US Military has organized murder in Florida?
What kind of bull shit are you trying to sell?

So you approve of organised killing by the US military. He who lives by the
sword.....do you known the rest?

The US Military has organized murder in Florida?
What kind of bull shit are you trying to sell?

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Jesus did not personally choose these missionaries that were sent put
to spread the Good News of Jesus.

Matthew 10:1, 5-8
Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority
to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.

yeah. So what?
Jesus sent out his his disciples.... about 2000 years ago.
Are they still wandering around?
yeah. So what?
Jesus sent out his his disciples.... about 2000 years ago.
Are they still wandering around?
OK, if the people did not welcome the disciples (2000 years ago), they
were supposed to leave town.

A christian would say that Jesus is still teaching us. Your Jesus is dead. You
are not christian.

No, he wouldn't.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
The Bible never specifically addresses the issue of abortion. However,
there are numerous teachings in Scripture that make it abundantly
clear what God’s view of abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells us that God
knows us before He forms us in the womb. Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of
God’s active role in our creation and formation in the womb. Exodus
21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty—death—for someone who causes the

Now you qoute the Old Testament, when it's convenient.

You did first.
Don't you like it?

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Over 95 percent of the abortions performed today involve women who

So don't have one yourself.

I am not a slut.
So, not a chance.

[Bob Officer]

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
According to the Old Testament, they have less protection until birth.

Do you follow the Old testament?
I don't.

Where does the New Testament mention abortion?

Why should it?
It is called murder.

No it isn't murder.
It is however mentioned in the Old Testament, and is lawful.

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Over 95 percent of the abortions performed today involve women who

So don't have one yourself.

I am not a slut.

All the whores say that...

[Ted]

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
According to the Old Testament, they have less protection until birth.

Do you follow the Old testament?
I don't.

Where does the New Testament mention abortion?

Why should it?
It is called murder.

No it isn't murder.
It is however mentioned in the Old Testament, and is lawful.

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Over 95 percent of the abortions performed today involve women who

So don't have one yourself.

I am not a slut.

All the whores say that...

LOL. Good call.

[Patrick]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 20:30:10 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
According to the Old Testament, they have less protection until birth.

Do you follow the Old testament?
I don't.

Where does the New Testament mention abortion?

Why should it?
It is called murder.

No it isn't murder.
It is however mentioned in the Old Testament, and is lawful.

Don't ask the question if you can't stand the answer.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Over 95 percent of the abortions performed today involve women who

So don't have one yourself.

I am not a slut.

All the whores say that...

Is that your excuse?

[Don Kresch]

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise
According to the Old Testament, they have less protection until birth.

Do you follow the Old testament?
I don't.

Where does the New Testament mention abortion?

Why should it?
It is called murder.

It's not murder; it's an eviction.


Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.

[!! Atheist ------------------------------]

Do you follow the Old testament? I don't.

Like all Christians, you pick and choose which verses to follow, to form your
own personal religion.

[Patrick]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 23:34:11 -0700, "!! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Do you follow the Old testament? I don't.

Like all Christians, you pick and choose which verses to follow, to form your
own personal religion.

Like all ass hole atheists, you do the same.

[Jeanne Douglas]

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Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have

Really? So what?

57 million babies have denied the right to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness.

According to the Old Testament, they have less protection until birth.

Do you follow the Old testament?
I don't.

Then you have no reason to condemn gays because Jesus never said a word about them. So you're deferring to the Old Testament when it's convenient for you.

And, of course, as has been posted here many times, the only mention of abortion in the bible is a requirement that a woman accused of adultery must have one just to make sure she's not pregnant. Probably wise to keep paternal conflicts out of small communities.

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have

Really? So what?

57 million babies have denied the right to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness.

Your god kills far more than that every single year. You know all those miscarriages and the embryos that fail to implant. They're even called abortions--spontaneous abortions.

[aaa]

Post by Jeanne Douglas

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:55:14 -0700, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million
babies have

Really? So what?

57 million babies have denied the right to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness.

Your god kills far more than that every single year. You know all
those miscarriages and the embryos that fail to implant. They're even
called abortions--spontaneous abortions.

No. That's the result of sin. It's the work of Satan. It has nothing to
do with God who is life. It's the result of humans doing evil to harm life.

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by aaa

Post by Jeanne Douglas

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:55:14 -0700, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million
babies have

Really? So what?

57 million babies have denied the right to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness.

Your god kills far more than that every single year. You know all
those miscarriages and the embryos that fail to implant. They're even
called abortions--spontaneous abortions.

No. That's the result of sin. It's the work of Satan.

You just told us there is no Satan.

And now there is?

[aaa]

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Post by aaa

Post by Jeanne Douglas

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:55:14 -0700, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million
babies have

Really? So what?

57 million babies have denied the right to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness.

Your god kills far more than that every single year. You know all
those miscarriages and the embryos that fail to implant. They're even
called abortions--spontaneous abortions.

No. That's the result of sin. It's the work of Satan.

You just told us there is no Satan.
And now there is?

Satan exists as the delusion of the mind. As a mere delusion, it does
not really exist, but sinners have made such delusion quite real to
themselves.

[Lucifer Morningstar]

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Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by aaa

Post by Jeanne Douglas

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:55:14 -0700, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have

Really? So what?

57 million babies have denied the right to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness.

Your god kills far more than that every single year. You know all
those miscarriages and the embryos that fail to implant. They're even
called abortions--spontaneous abortions.

No. That's the result of sin. It's the work of Satan.

You just told us there is no Satan.
And now there is?

Satan exists as the delusion of the mind. As a mere delusion, it does
not really exist, but sinners have made such delusion quite real to
themselves.

God does not allow sin.

[aaa]

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Post by aaa

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by aaa

Post by Jeanne Douglas

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:55:14 -0700, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have

Really? So what?

57 million babies have denied the right to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness.

Your god kills far more than that every single year. You know all
those miscarriages and the embryos that fail to implant. They're even
called abortions--spontaneous abortions.

No. That's the result of sin. It's the work of Satan.

You just told us there is no Satan.
And now there is?

Satan exists as the delusion of the mind. As a mere delusion, it does
not really exist, but sinners have made such delusion quite real to
themselves.

God does not allow sin.

That is right. It's why all sins deserve to be punished and will be
punished one way or another. There is no escape from the punishment of
sin except by the love of Jesus Christ. Only the love of Jesus Christ
can cleanse the soul of all sins.

[hleopold]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by aaa

Post by Jeanne Douglas

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:55:14 -0700, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have

Really? So what?

57 million babies have denied the right to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness.

Your god kills far more than that every single year. You know all
those miscarriages and the embryos that fail to implant. They're even
called abortions--spontaneous abortions.

No. That's the result of sin. It's the work of Satan.

You just told us there is no Satan.
And now there is?

Schrödinger’s Satan?

[Lucifer Morningstar]

Post by aaa

Post by Jeanne Douglas

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:55:14 -0700, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million
babies have

Really? So what?

57 million babies have denied the right to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness.

Your god kills far more than that every single year. You know all
those miscarriages and the embryos that fail to implant. They're even
called abortions--spontaneous abortions.

No. That's the result of sin.

Not possible. God does not allow sin.

Post by aaa
It's the work of Satan.

I resemble that remark!

Post by aaa
It has nothing to do with God who is life.

I thought God was love.
God is everything.

Post by aaa
It's the result of humans doing evil to harm life.

Is that why God creates evil? - Isaiah 45:7

[aaa]

Post by Lucifer Morningstar

Post by aaa

Post by Jeanne Douglas

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:55:14 -0700, Siri Cruise

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million
babies have

Really? So what?

57 million babies have denied the right to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness.

Your god kills far more than that every single year. You know all
those miscarriages and the embryos that fail to implant. They're even
called abortions--spontaneous abortions.

No. That's the result of sin.

Not possible. God does not allow sin.

No. That is not the way to understand it. Because God does not allow
sin, all have fallen from grace by sinning. If God allowed sin, no one
would have fallen.

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Post by aaa
It's the work of Satan.

I resemble that remark!

Post by aaa
It has nothing to do with God who is life.

I thought God was love.
God is everything.

Post by aaa
It's the result of humans doing evil to harm life.

Is that why God creates evil? - Isaiah 45:7

Your twisted logic is wrong from the start. You need to correct your
view before you can understand anything.

[tesla sTinker]

and its people like you who do not honor Jesus, in what HE had said.
For He said, I am He. Which means, He also said, to kill their kind
yes. Book of Levitcus, and in many places in many books of the Bible,
it states not to let the children live, if they are of pagan origin,
which means, if they are like you. Well, which ones on here, do not
see the other side of this. Yet, its not how you descriptor it.

As in yes, if some ass hole pagan had raped the woman, would the woman
still love the child if it were born. Being a true Christian in
honoring Jesus God Himself in all that He had said?

This is a world of opposites. It matters not what you descriptor, the
see saw is always to be balanced in this life in all things. Yet the
murder of a child, is still a mortal sin. But only if it is the
Christian Child that is killed. For none of you, truly honor the true
God, and what He had said. That includes the fact that Jesus had also
said, He did not come to change the old law, but to enforce it.
Why should he waste his breath on those that do not want to listen. He
knows where to send them at the end of their life here on earth.

A child when it is not baptized, sees death, it goes into limbo, and
remains there for all eternity. Now, in question as to which of them
may become a lover of Christ, who wants to take that chance before God,
telling Him, that you know the child was pagan and was to be pagan of
Sodom and Gomorrah. As it is now as we speak, they tie up woman and
beat them not to mention, rape them, cause them to have their pagan
children, in brainwashing them in their evil sexual orgy rituals, even
using beasts in the act with rope. And you believe this is justified in
any kind of a truth that says, ditch the Bible? Which is why the
Supreme Court cannot make any justice, for they ignore this page
alright. Every day that they live now, and for whom, yes, its for the devil.

http://www.truecarpentry.org/tccwww/cathwww/dogma/catholicbooks/douayrheims/TenCommandments1609.htm

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Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have

Really? So what?
When Jesus sent out the missionaries, he didn't tell them to stand there
insulting villages that rejected them. He told them to shut up and leave. Their
god would judge them, not humans. Also Jesus lived among polytheitic Greeks and
Romans, and never said to scream out them or shoot Roman abortion doctors.
Actually he said to obey the authorities put over you, including polytheitic
Romans.
Don't get an abortion. Problem solved. You have obeyed the rules of your
religion as you understand them. Let others make their own choices. Is your god
really so weak he needs you to tell him how to judge and execute judgement for
him?
And you're still a heretic.

[Patrick]

and its people like you who do not honor Jesus,....

People like who?

[tesla sTinker]

and its people like you who do not honor Jesus, in what HE had said.
For He said, I am He. Which means, He also said, to kill their kind
yes. Book of Leviticus, and in many places in many books of the Bible,
it states not to let the children live, if they are of pagan origin,
which means, if they are like you. Well, which ones on here, do not
see the other side of this. Yet, its not how you descriptor it.

As in yes, if some ass hole pagan had raped the woman, would the woman
still love the child if it were born. Being a true Christian in
honoring Jesus God Himself in all that He had said?

This is a world of opposites. It matters not what you descriptor, the
see saw is always to be balanced in this life in all things. Yet the
murder of a child, is still a mortal sin. But only if it is the
Christian Child that is killed. For none of you, truly honor the true
God, and what He had said. That includes the fact that Jesus had also
said, He did not come to change the old law, but to enforce it.
Why should He waste his breath on those that do not want to listen. He
knows where to send them and put them at the end of their life here on
earth.

A child when it is not baptized, sees death, it goes into limbo, and
remains there for all eternity. Now, in question as to which of them
may become a lover of Christ, who wants to take that chance before
Almighty God, telling Him, that you know the child was pagan and was to
be pagan of Sodom and Gomorrah always. As it is now as we speak, they
tie up woman and beat them not to mention, rape them, cause them to have
their pagan children, in brainwashing them in their evil sexual orgy
rituals, turning them into loving evil, even using beasts in the act
with rope. And you believe this is justified in any kind of a truth
that says, ditch the Bible? Which is why the Supreme Court cannot make
any justice really, for they ignore this page
alright. Every day that they live now, and for whom, yes, its for the
devil. It is mandatory, that any child born is to be baptized in the
name of Jesus. Whether you like it or not, or anyone else likes it or
not. End of Story.

http://www.truecarpentry.org/tccwww/cathwww/dogma/catholicbooks/douayrheims/TenCommandments1609.htm

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have

Really? So what?
When Jesus sent out the missionaries, he didn't tell them to stand there
insulting villages that rejected them. He told them to shut up and leave. Their
god would judge them, not humans. Also Jesus lived among polytheitic Greeks and
Romans, and never said to scream out them or shoot Roman abortion doctors.
Actually he said to obey the authorities put over you, including polytheitic
Romans.
Don't get an abortion. Problem solved. You have obeyed the rules of your
religion as you understand them. Let others make their own choices. Is your god
really so weak he needs you to tell him how to judge and execute judgement for
him?
And you're still a heretic.

[Mitchell Holman]

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On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:15:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

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Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

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Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?

Why a Supreme Court packed with conservatives
is "liberal" when it comes to abortion.

[Patrick]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 15:23:00 -0500, Mitchell Holman

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Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:15:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?

Why a Supreme Court packed with conservatives
is "liberal" when it comes to abortion.

I don't know.
You tell me.
Do conservatives normally allow people to kill their children?

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 15:23:00 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:15:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?

Why a Supreme Court packed with conservatives
is "liberal" when it comes to abortion.

I don't know.
You tell me.
Do conservatives normally allow people to kill their children?

When your Bible requires it, sure.

Don't you believe in following your Bible?





Kill Homosexuals
(Leviticus 20:13)


Death for Hitting Dad
(Exodus 21:15)


Death for Cursing Parents
(Leviticus 20:9)


Death for Fornication
(Leviticus 21:9)


Kill Girls Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
(Deuteronomy 22:20-21)


Kill Followers of Other Religions.
(Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

[Patrick]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman
The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?

Why a Supreme Court packed with conservatives
is "liberal" when it comes to abortion.

I don't know.
You tell me.
Do conservatives normally allow people to kill their children?

When your Bible requires it, sure.

Do you have a Bible?
Does your Bible require me to kill babies?
My bible does not.

Post by Mitchell Holman
Don't you believe in following your Bible?

Do you?

Post by Mitchell Holman
Kill Homosexuals
(Leviticus 20:13)
Death for Hitting Dad
(Exodus 21:15)
Death for Cursing Parents
(Leviticus 20:9)
Death for Fornication
(Leviticus 21:9)
Kill Girls Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
(Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
(Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

+ These are all Jewish Laws - for jews - from 5000 years ago.
Not for Christians - today.
Go find a Jew to kill the fags.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Patrick
Do you have a Bible?
Does your Bible require me to kill babies?
My bible does not.

Do you demand christians obey the ten commandments?

[Patrick]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Do you have a Bible?
Does your Bible require me to kill babies?
My bible does not.

Do you demand christians obey the ten commandments?

I don't demand anything.
Except for you Catholic Bashers to tell the truth.

[Siri Cruise]

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Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Do you have a Bible?
Does your Bible require me to kill babies?
My bible does not.

Do you demand christians obey the ten commandments?

I don't demand anything.
Except for you Catholic Bashers to tell the truth.

You have rejected Jesus. You are not christian. I didn't say catholics aren't
christian. If you say catholics must reject Jesus, then your kind of catholic is
not christian. However given Duke is also heretic in rejecting a patriarch and a
prophet, neither of you is a good advertisement for the roman church.

Given you are a heretic, I'm not surprised you are reject and cite Mosaic Law as
it suits your mood.

[Patrick]

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Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Do you have a Bible?
Does your Bible require me to kill babies?
My bible does not.

Do you demand christians obey the ten commandments?

I don't demand anything.
Except for you Catholic Bashers to tell the truth.

You have rejected Jesus.

+ Where did you get that idea.
I am a Catholic and a Christian.

<Snip the rest of your bull shit>

[tesla sTinker]

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Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Do you have a Bible?
Does your Bible require me to kill babies?
My bible does not.

Do you demand christians obey the ten commandments?

I don't demand anything.
Except for you Catholic Bashers to tell the truth.

You have rejected Jesus.

+ Where did you get that idea.
I am a Catholic and a Christian.
<Snip the rest of your bull shit>

You specific said, those laws do not apply of the old testament.
LABELING THEM JEWS, as if that is not the same Church. Well then,
what protects you from Sodom and Gomorrah to steal your children and
rape them. ? You yourself, do not understand Jesus. Nor the Supreme
Court. I understand why you do not understand the Supreme Court, but
I do not understand why you do not understand the jews or legitimate old
law. The only reason the Jews did not handle that old law correctly, is
because they were hot heads. Extremists. It does not mean the law is
not to be exercised of anymore. That is just more extremism. Yet, the
Apocalypse is clear that this war would be here and it is written in
God's Holy Bible and it is here. Yet you want to declare it wrong. And
that is what makes you a heretic Patrick.

Your not accepting what Christ had said about enforcing the old law.
Or even Him enforcing it.... You know God kills those who do not honor
Him. This is true fact. And you know Jesus is God. Yet, you declare
yourself a catholic, and do not pray for any of the virtues
of the true Catholic Church. Just your own Church. Novus Ordo pagans.
So that you may understand it in true knowledge of ignore it. And Jesus
never told you to do that. Yet it gives no one the right to kill a
innocent child.

Unless, one knows, it will be raised in the heathen as a warmonger
against Christians. Witches are here, and they want to kill the catholic
faith. They are Antichrists. Francis in Rome is one of them. And me, I
will shoot to kill them, because this is what they do. And because God
told us to do so. And you will call me, a pagan for it, as they called
my Lord of the same thing. Yet, it does not make it true.

But in the more so, those children who go and get an abortion, then
go home to mommy, and say, Im sorry. I could not bring myself to having
the child, same as in someone saying, they know who is christian and who
is not in the Apocalypse, is like a sour dream of Jesus that was nailed
upside down on the cross. This also is not true. It was only Peter
that was. So you go ahead, and keep it up, the true Catholic Church
is still here and just spoken, and we will support what God had told us
to do. Unlike all of you that want to erase the laws so to have your own
pagan jolly's of an attack on the true altar of Christ.

Supreme Court is dead in Christ, for they are Novus Ordo, same as you
are. For they disobey the Bible, and they know they are doing it.
Which makes them, full of apostasy yes, and not in the true catholic
church.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by tesla sTinker
You specific said, those laws do not apply of the old testament.
LABELING THEM JEWS, as if that is not the same Church. Well then,

Gentile christians are not required to obey Mosaic Law, the part that begins
with ten commandments. Gentile christians are expected to obey Noahide Law which
is much shorter. In Genesis it is the first law given to people, to Noah after
the flood. Since Noah stands for all people, all people are required to obey.
Moses only stands for Hebrews, so only Hebrews are required to obey Mosaic Law.

It's hypocritical however for gentile christians to demand some of Mosaic Law be
obeyed but then ignore the parts that are inconvenient.

Patrick's heresy is specific to christians in he denies the instructions and
resurrection of Jesus as reported in the gospels. He denies the quoted text from
Matthew 10 and claims Jesus is not inspiring and teaching people to this day.

[Patrick]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 15:24:01 -0700, tesla sTinker

Post by tesla sTinker

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Patrick
Do you have a Bible?
Does your Bible require me to kill babies?
My bible does not.

Do you demand christians obey the ten commandments?

I don't demand anything.
Except for you Catholic Bashers to tell the truth.

You have rejected Jesus.

+ Where did you get that idea.
I am a Catholic and a Christian.
<Snip the rest of your bull shit>

You specific said, those laws do not apply of the old testament.

No, I didn't.
Stop lying.

Post by tesla sTinker
LABELING THEM JEWS, as if that is not the same Church.

Jews are much different from Christians.
Didn't you know?
Would you like a lesson?

Post by tesla sTinker
Well then,
what protects you from Sodom and Gomorrah to steal your children and
rape them. ?

I don't live near Sodom or Gomorrah.
I've been all over the world, but I've never been there.

Post by tesla sTinker
You yourself, do not understand Jesus.

Speak for yourself, pagan.

Post by tesla sTinker
Nor the Supreme Court.

What am I missing from the Supreme Court?

Post by tesla sTinker
I understand why you do not understand the Supreme Court, but
I do not understand why you do not understand the jews or legitimate old
law.

I do understand Jews. And their laws.
I am not a Jew. And I live in the 21st Century.

Post by tesla sTinker
The only reason the Jews did not handle that old law correctly, is
because they were hot heads. Extremists.

Which Jews were the hotheads? Moses? Isaiah? Noah?

Post by tesla sTinker
It does not mean the law is
not to be exercised of anymore. That is just more extremism.

Well, I am relieved. I have no intention of following the 613 laws
listed in the Old Testament.

Post by tesla sTinker
Yet, the
Apocalypse is clear that this war would be here and it is written in
God's Holy Bible and it is here. Yet you want to declare it wrong. And
that is what makes you a heretic Patrick.

Could you go over that one more time?
Did you say the Apocalypse is upon us now?
Or maybe next week?
Where is that in the Old testament again?
I think I missed it.

Post by tesla sTinker
Your not accepting what Christ had said about enforcing the old law.

Jesus gave us the two greatest commandments.
He also gave us the beatitudes.
Would you like a lesson?

Post by tesla sTinker
Or even Him enforcing it.... You know God kills those who do not honor
Him. This is true fact. And you know Jesus is God.

Is that why Billy Graham and Oral Roberts are dead?

Post by tesla sTinker
Yet, you declare
yourself a catholic, and do not pray for any of the virtues
of the true Catholic Church.

Do you have a list of those virtues?
Where can I find them?
Are they listed in the Bible?
Or maybe just our mission statement?

Post by tesla sTinker
Just your own Church. Novus Ordo pagans.
So that you may understand it in true knowledge of ignore it. And Jesus
never told you to do that. Yet it gives no one the right to kill a
innocent child.

Novus.... ignore it..... Jesus never told us.... kill a child?
Try to pick a point, and stay on it.
I certainly would appreciate it.

Post by tesla sTinker
Unless, one knows, it will be raised in the heathen as a warmonger
against Christians.

What will be raised?
A Novus Ordo flag on the flagpole?

Post by tesla sTinker
Witches are here, and they want to kill the catholic
faith. They are Antichrists.

Are they witches? Or anti-Christs? Can they be both?

Post by tesla sTinker
Francis in Rome is one of them.

Is he a witch? Or an Anti-Christ?
Pick one. You are starting to confuse me.

Post by tesla sTinker
And me, I
will shoot to kill them, because this is what they do.

What do they do?

Post by tesla sTinker
And because God
told us to do so.

God told us to kill witches?
Hey, I know a witch in Pennsylvania.
Would you kill her for me?
She really was a pain in the ass for a while, and the FBI will only
watch her for me. How about if you just kill her?

Post by tesla sTinker
And you will call me, a pagan for it, as they called
my Lord of the same thing. Yet, it does not make it true.

Who called our Lord a pagan?
Do you have a reference for this?
Or are you just making up shit again?

Post by tesla sTinker
But in the more so,

What does that mean?
more so?
Help me out here.

Post by tesla sTinker
those children who go and get an abortion, then

Usually it is women who get abortions.
Children don't normally do this.

Post by tesla sTinker
go home to mommy, and say, Im sorry. I could not bring myself to having
the child, same as in someone saying, they know who is christian and who
is not in the Apocalypse, is like a sour dream of Jesus that was nailed
upside down on the cross.

Sour dream?
nailed upside down on a cross?
Tell me more.

Post by tesla sTinker
This also is not true. It was only Peter
that was. So you go ahead, and keep it up, the true Catholic Church
is still here and just spoken, and we will support what God had told us
to do. Unlike all of you that want to erase the laws so to have your own
pagan jolly's of an attack on the true altar of Christ.

OK then.
By the way, what is a "pagan jolly?"

Post by tesla sTinker
Supreme Court is dead in Christ, for they are Novus Ordo, same as you
are.

Me?
Tell me more about me.
I am fascinated.

Post by tesla sTinker
For they disobey the Bible, and they know they are doing it.
Which makes them, full of apostasy yes, and not in the true catholic
church.

Do you follow the entire Bible?
This is a serious question.
Oh, and when will your little fake church pick a new pope?
Your last guy died, I understand.
Did God kill him for being an anti-Christ?
Or perhaps he was a witch?
Tell me.
Curious people want to know.

[Kevrob]

Post by Patrick
Do you follow the entire Bible?

Go have your inter-denominational spats somewhere else.
You are both trolls in alt.atheism.

Is there any wonder we don't believe your nonsense? You
Christians have been killing each other and damning each
other to your non-existent hell for two millennia over
which books are allowed in the babble, which ones excluded,
what the various stories within actually mean and which ones
are binding on Christians v Jews.

If you had any sense you'd be all ecumenical sweetness and
light when you wandered in here and started violating the
group charter by proselytizing, and have your theological
knife fights behind closed doors.

Instead, you prove one thing to the atheists, agnostics
and other free thinkers here: you are, most of you, Loony Tunes.

Kevin R

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman
The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?

Why a Supreme Court packed with conservatives
is "liberal" when it comes to abortion.

I don't know.
You tell me.
Do conservatives normally allow people to kill their children?

When your Bible requires it, sure.

Do you have a Bible?
Does your Bible require me to kill babies?
My bible does not.

Post by Mitchell Holman
Don't you believe in following your Bible?

Do you?

Post by Mitchell Holman
Kill Homosexuals
(Leviticus 20:13)
Death for Hitting Dad
(Exodus 21:15)
Death for Cursing Parents
(Leviticus 20:9)
Death for Fornication
(Leviticus 21:9)
Kill Girls Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
(Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
(Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

+ These are all Jewish Laws - for jews - from 5000 years ago.
Not for Christians - today.

Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out
from using Leviticus to defend homophobia and Exodus
to plaster the Ten Commandments on every school and
courthouse to claim that the Old Testament is merely
"ancient laws" that "only applies to Jews".

[Patrick]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 21:12:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman
The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?

Why a Supreme Court packed with conservatives
is "liberal" when it comes to abortion.

I don't know.
You tell me.
Do conservatives normally allow people to kill their children?

When your Bible requires it, sure.

Do you have a Bible?
Does your Bible require me to kill babies?
My bible does not.

Post by Mitchell Holman
Don't you believe in following your Bible?

Do you?

Post by Mitchell Holman
Kill Homosexuals
(Leviticus 20:13)
Death for Hitting Dad
(Exodus 21:15)
Death for Cursing Parents
(Leviticus 20:9)
Death for Fornication
(Leviticus 21:9)
Kill Girls Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
(Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
(Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

+ These are all Jewish Laws - for jews - from 5000 years ago.
Not for Christians - today.

Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out
from using Leviticus to defend homophobia and Exodus
to plaster the Ten Commandments on every school and
courthouse to claim that the Old Testament is merely
"ancient laws" that "only applies to Jews".

Are you jealous?

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 21:12:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman
The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?

Why a Supreme Court packed with conservatives
is "liberal" when it comes to abortion.

I don't know.
You tell me.
Do conservatives normally allow people to kill their children?

When your Bible requires it, sure.

Do you have a Bible?
Does your Bible require me to kill babies?
My bible does not.

Post by Mitchell Holman
Don't you believe in following your Bible?

Do you?

Post by Mitchell Holman
Kill Homosexuals
(Leviticus 20:13)
Death for Hitting Dad
(Exodus 21:15)
Death for Cursing Parents
(Leviticus 20:9)
Death for Fornication
(Leviticus 21:9)
Kill Girls Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
(Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
(Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

+ These are all Jewish Laws - for jews - from 5000 years ago.
Not for Christians - today.

Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out
from using Leviticus to defend homophobia and Exodus
to plaster the Ten Commandments on every school and
courthouse to claim that the Old Testament is merely
"ancient laws" that "only applies to Jews".

Are you jealous?

Are you ever consistent?

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Mitchell Holman
Are you ever consistent?

That's why heresy is an important issue in religion. When you deny your
religion, you deny your self.

[Patrick]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Mitchell Holman
Are you ever consistent?

That's why heresy is an important issue in religion. When you deny your
religion, you deny your self.

Well, don't do it then.
I certainly do not.

[Mattb.]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Mitchell Holman
Are you ever consistent?

That's why heresy is an important issue in religion. When you deny your
religion, you deny your self.

I would say the concept of Heresy is used to look at other people as
less than Human or unworthy if they hold a different belief. Look at
how many people were murdered over the centuries by religion using
that word.




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Post by Mattb.

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Mitchell Holman
Are you ever consistent?

That's why heresy is an important issue in religion. When you deny your
religion, you deny your self.

I would say the concept of Heresy is used to look at other people as
less than Human or unworthy if they hold a different belief. Look at
how many people were murdered over the centuries by religion using
that word.

Why would I wish to look at them?
They are all dead and gone.

[aaa]

Post by jdyoung

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 15:23:00 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:15:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or

not;

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of

course

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?

Why a Supreme Court packed with conservatives
is "liberal" when it comes to abortion.

I don't know.
You tell me.
Do conservatives normally allow people to kill their children?

When your Bible requires it, sure.
Don't you believe in following your Bible?

Since your interpretation of the Bible has to be understood
counter-intuitively, there can be nothing wrong in following the Bible.

Post by jdyoung
Kill Homosexuals
(Leviticus 20:13)
Death for Hitting Dad
(Exodus 21:15)
Death for Cursing Parents
(Leviticus 20:9)
Death for Fornication
(Leviticus 21:9)
Kill Girls Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
(Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
(Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

[Lucifer Morningstar]

Post by aaa

Post by jdyoung

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 15:23:00 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:15:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or

not;

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of

course

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?

Why a Supreme Court packed with conservatives
is "liberal" when it comes to abortion.

I don't know.
You tell me.
Do conservatives normally allow people to kill their children?

When your Bible requires it, sure.
Don't you believe in following your Bible?

Since your interpretation of the Bible has to be understood
counter-intuitively, there can be nothing wrong in following the Bible.

God started out by using genocide in a failed attempt to correct
his errors. Should we do likewise?


Evidence for God

Kill Homosexuals
(Leviticus 20:13)


Death for Hitting Dad
(Exodus 21:15)


Death for Cursing Parents
(Leviticus 20:9)


Death for Fornication
(Leviticus 21:9)


Kill Girls Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
(Deuteronomy 22:20-21)


Kill Followers of Other Religions.
(Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

[aaa]

Post by Lucifer Morningstar

Post by aaa

Post by jdyoung

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 15:23:00 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:15:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or

not;

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of

course

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?

Why a Supreme Court packed with conservatives
is "liberal" when it comes to abortion.

I don't know.
You tell me.
Do conservatives normally allow people to kill their children?

When your Bible requires it, sure.
Don't you believe in following your Bible?

Since your interpretation of the Bible has to be understood
counter-intuitively, there can be nothing wrong in following the Bible.

God started out by using genocide in a failed attempt to correct
his errors. Should we do likewise?

Your misinterpretation of the Bible has nothing to do with the actual
teaching of the Bible.

Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Evidence for God
Kill Homosexuals
(Leviticus 20:13)
Death for Hitting Dad
(Exodus 21:15)
Death for Cursing Parents
(Leviticus 20:9)
Death for Fornication
(Leviticus 21:9)
Kill Girls Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
(Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
(Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 15:23:00 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:15:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?

Why a Supreme Court packed with conservatives
is "liberal" when it comes to abortion.

I don't know.
You tell me.
Do conservatives normally allow people to kill their children?

Nobody's talking about killing their children, so knock off the phony propaganda crap.

[Cloud Hobbit]

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:15:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have
been denied the right to life. This tragedy is a devastating mark upon
our culture, and even more sickening is that there is an entire
industry profiting from each child killed in the womb.
Roe v. Wade declared that an unborn baby is not a person.
What we need to work towards: Society recognizes the human dignity of
unborn babies.
The Court held that a woman's right to an abortion fell within the
right to privacy (recognized in Griswold v. Connecticut) protected by
the Fourteenth Amendment. The decision gave a woman total autonomy
over the pregnancy during the first trimester and defined different
levels of state interest for the second and third trimesters. As a
result, the laws of 46 states were affected by the Court's ruling.
Norma McCorvey, who identified herself as “Roe” in the landmark case,
ultimately admitted in her book I Am Roe that, upon advice from
feminist lawyers, she had lied she had been raped and was seeking an
abortion. In addition, McCorvey, who died in February, said she has
actually never had an abortion, and had placed her baby up for
adoption. She later became a Christian and a pro-life advocate.
+ Do you need any more explanation of this horror?

The horror of granting a woman the right to do with her body as she sees fit?
Oh, how horrible. What decisions were made in Roe v Wade still stand and Are still correct. The government should not be in the business of forcing women to have babies. There is nobody else who should have any say in the matter any more than there would be if a man decided to have a vasectomy and stop him from being able to cause a woman to be pregnant.

A person's body is their property and without the right to property no other rights are possible.

It's not that far from prohibiting abortion to going back to laws against certain sex acts, which are also no business of the government.

The choice is simple, safe legal abortions and the right to use one's body as one sees fit, or the slippery slope into government snooping into your bedroom.

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Patrick

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:15:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman
=20

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman
=20

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
=20
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a=20
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where=20
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

=20
The 9th court in San Fran.=20
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.=20

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.=20
Do explain.

=20
Explain what?
=20
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have
been denied the right to life. This tragedy is a devastating mark upon
our culture, and even more sickening is that there is an entire
industry profiting from each child killed in the womb.
=20
Roe v. Wade declared that an unborn baby is not a person.
=20
What we need to work towards: Society recognizes the human dignity of
unborn babies.
=20
The Court held that a woman's right to an abortion fell within the
right to privacy (recognized in Griswold v. Connecticut) protected by
the Fourteenth Amendment. The decision gave a woman total autonomy
over the pregnancy during the first trimester and defined different
levels of state interest for the second and third trimesters. As a
result, the laws of 46 states were affected by the Court's ruling.
=20
Norma McCorvey, who identified herself as =E2=80=9CRoe=E2=80=9D in the la=

ndmark case,

Post by Patrick
ultimately admitted in her book I Am Roe that, upon advice from
feminist lawyers, she had lied she had been raped and was seeking an
abortion. In addition, McCorvey, who died in February, said she has
actually never had an abortion, and had placed her baby up for
adoption. She later became a Christian and a pro-life advocate.
=20
+ Do you need any more explanation of this horror?

The horror of granting a woman the right to do with her body as she sees fi=
t?
Oh, how horrible. What decisions were made in Roe v Wade still stand and A=
re still correct. The government should not be in the business of forcing =
women to have babies. There is nobody else who should have any say in the =
matter any more than there would be if a man decided to have a vasectomy an=
d stop him from being able to cause a woman to be pregnant. =20
A person's body is their property and without the right to property no othe=
r rights are possible.
It's not that far from prohibiting abortion to going back to laws against c=
ertain sex acts, which are also no business of the government. =20
The choice is simple, safe legal abortions and the right to use one's body =
as one sees fit, or the slippery slope into government snooping into your b=
edroom.

Women have ALWAYS had abortions, probably back to the cave.

The ONLY choice is between safe and legal abortions (as few as possible with the use of effective birth control) or unsafe and illegal abotions. Those are the only 2 options because women have always had abortions and always will.

So how about doing the one and only thing that decreases the number of abortions is proper medically sound sex education and effective, affordable birth control. Because people have sex, have always had sex, will always have sex, and trying to pretend they don't with stupid religious rules is a sucker's game.

[Bob Officer]

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:15:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have
been denied the right to life. This tragedy is a devastating mark upon
our culture, and even more sickening is that there is an entire
industry profiting from each child killed in the womb.
Roe v. Wade declared that an unborn baby is not a person.

No such thing as an unborn baby.

Just like an unbuilt house, unbuilt auto.

Post by Patrick
What we need to work towards: Society recognizes the human dignity of
unborn babies.

There is no such a thing.

Post by Patrick
The Court held that a woman's right to an abortion fell within the
right to privacy (recognized in Griswold v. Connecticut) protected by
the Fourteenth Amendment. The decision gave a woman total autonomy
over the pregnancy during the first trimester and defined different
levels of state interest for the second and third trimesters. As a
result, the laws of 46 states were affected by the Court's ruling.
Norma McCorvey, who identified herself as “Roe” in the landmark case,
ultimately admitted in her book I Am Roe that, upon advice from
feminist lawyers, she had lied she had been raped and was seeking an
abortion. In addition, McCorvey, who died in February, said she has
actually never had an abortion, and had placed her baby up for
adoption. She later became a Christian and a pro-life advocate.
+ Do you need any more explanation of this horror?

And the proof was she was roe was what? Only her word, which she admits she
was a liar. Or was she just a liar for god like most so called christians
like you? If Jesus was real he would know you not.

[Patrick]

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Patrick
Roe v. Wade declared that an unborn baby is not a person.

No such thing as an unborn baby.

Isn't that what Roe v Wade say?
Who are you trying to argue with?

Post by Bob Officer
Just like an unbuilt house, unbuilt auto.

What about an "unfinished" house or auto?
What do you call them?

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Patrick
What we need to work towards: Society recognizes the human dignity of
unborn babies.

There is no such a thing.

Not yet.

Post by Bob Officer
And the proof was she was roe was what? Only her word, which she admits she
was a liar. Or was she just a liar for god like most so called christians
like you? If Jesus was real he would know you not.

Do you pretend to speak for your "pretend" friend?
Who is the ass wipe here?

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Bob Officer
Just like an unbuilt house, unbuilt auto.

I haven't been in an unfinished car, but I have been in an unfinished house.

You don't get to dictate what words other people use. Communications is an
ongoing negotiation on shared meanings; you can try to negotiate alternative
usage. You can boycott the communication. You can't stick your hand up their
butt like some puppet and speak for them.

Post by Bob Officer
And the proof was she was roe was what? Only her word, which she admits she

Actually it's irrelevant whether it was the same woman or she later regretted
the decision. It happens that a few people later have moral qualms after winning
a case. It doesn't matter. Courts do not reopen old, settled cases because the
winner has regrets, and once a decision is made for one case, the decision
applies to everyone.

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:15:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have
been denied the right to life.

No baby has been denied the right to life because of Roe v Wade.

[hypatiab7]

Post by Patrick
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:15:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

...by the CONSERVATIVE US Supreme Court.
The same court that created legal abortion
and has kept it legal for 45 years.
Do explain.

Explain what?
Since 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, over 57 million babies have
been denied the right to life. This tragedy is a devastating mark upon
our culture, and even more sickening is that there is an entire
industry profiting from each child killed in the womb.
Roe v. Wade declared that an unborn baby is not a person.

An unborn possible baby is not a baby until it leaves the woman's body and breathes on its own.

Post by Patrick
What we need to work towards: Society recognizes the human dignity of
unborn babies.

No, the dignity of the woman is more important. If she wants the possible baby, fine, that is her choice. If, for any reason, she doesn't want the possible
baby, that is also her choice - not yours.

Post by Patrick
The Court held that a woman's right to an abortion fell within the
right to privacy (recognized in Griswold v. Connecticut) protected by
the Fourteenth Amendment. The decision gave a woman total autonomy
over the pregnancy during the first trimester and defined different
levels of state interest for the second and third trimesters. As a
result, the laws of 46 states were affected by the Court's ruling.
Norma McCorvey, who identified herself as “Roe” in the landmark case,
ultimately admitted in her book I Am Roe that, upon advice from
feminist lawyers, she had lied she had been raped and was seeking an
abortion. In addition, McCorvey, who died in February, said she has
actually never had an abortion, and had placed her baby up for
adoption. She later became a Christian and a pro-life advocate.
+ Do you need any more explanation of this horror?

She still gave up the baby. Is there a record of her having had an abortion?
Once she became a Christian, who knows what she may have lied about.

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Don Martin
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:54:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish.

The Supreme Court of Roe v Wade was dominated
by Republicans. The author of the ruling was a
Republican. The Court has been controlled by
Republicans for the last 45 years and in that time
as kept abortion legal in case after case. So where
does this "liberal courts" idea come from?

The 9th court in San Fran.
Most of their liberal whinings are overturned.

Nonsense. Start with the number of their opinions, the total number. Then see how often the higher court chooses to even review that court's rulings. The % reversed is only of the ones chosen for review, not of the total decisions.

[Wiley E. Coyote]

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself

Jesus never had an abortion, why should anyone else?

A woman has no right to speak for her child.

Only old, white, rightwing Christian male politicians and radical
Muslim clerics speak for the child. Them, and Virgin Catholic
Priests, some of whom have a penchant for Alter Boys.


Why should a woman have reproductive rights and speak for her
child when old, white, rightwing Christian male politicians and
radical Muslim clerics are far wiser and should have all the say.


It's what God wants. I know because I hear the voices in my
head.

[hypatiab7]

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish. Men, despite having little legal
recourse, can still make their voices heard. The baby, however, has no
voice at all when it comes to deciding whether it will live or die.
Despite the bias exhibited by liberal atheists towards clergymen,
these same clergymen should be appointed as guardians of the child
while the mother is pregnant. Children need and deserve a voice.
J Young
"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women.
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta ~

You have no conscience. How would you know?

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by hypatiab7

Post by jdyoung
There are three people involved whenever a woman finds herself
pregnant and deciding whether to kill the child in the womb or not;
the mother, the father, and the baby. Liberal courts have of course
given women all the say they wish. Men, despite having little legal
recourse, can still make their voices heard. The baby, however, has no
voice at all when it comes to deciding whether it will live or die.
Despite the bias exhibited by liberal atheists towards clergymen,
these same clergymen should be appointed as guardians of the child
while the mother is pregnant. Children need and deserve a voice.
J Young
"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women.
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta ~

You have no conscience. How would you know?

And Mother Theresa proved that she didn't, either.