Adam and Ian

[Fenny]

Which one of them is going to give up work to look after a child? I
suppose Ian could potentially be redundant if Oliver sells. But it's
more likely that a management buy out would make him busier. So Adam
will have to take the kid to work in a sling and put a baby seat in
the tractor.

[Penny]

On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 11:21:48 +0100, Fenny <***@removethis.onetel.net>
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Which one of them is going to give up work to look after a child? I
suppose Ian could potentially be redundant if Oliver sells. But it's
more likely that a management buy out would make him busier. So Adam
will have to take the kid to work in a sling and put a baby seat in
the tractor.

Was a 'baby' specifically mentioned (I wasn't paying full attention).
Doubtless best for proper bonding (on both sides) but a school-age child
might be a better bet to fit in with their age and life-style.

[Btms]

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Which one of them is going to give up work to look after a child? I
suppose Ian could potentially be redundant if Oliver sells. But it's
more likely that a management buy out would make him busier. So Adam
will have to take the kid to work in a sling and put a baby seat in
the tractor.

Was a 'baby' specifically mentioned (I wasn't paying full attention).
Doubtless best for proper bonding (on both sides) but a school-age child
might be a better bet to fit in with their age and life-style.

Whichever, Brahns inheritance planning will be challenged.

[Penny]

On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 15:04:02 -0000 (UTC), Btms <***@thetames.me.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Btms

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Which one of them is going to give up work to look after a child? I
suppose Ian could potentially be redundant if Oliver sells. But it's
more likely that a management buy out would make him busier. So Adam
will have to take the kid to work in a sling and put a baby seat in
the tractor.

Was a 'baby' specifically mentioned (I wasn't paying full attention).
Doubtless best for proper bonding (on both sides) but a school-age child
might be a better bet to fit in with their age and life-style.

Whichever, Brahns inheritance planning will be challenged.

Well since he seems to forget what his plans were on a regular basis these
days and rewrite them from scratch every few years, that shouldn't be a
problem.

[Marjorie]

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Which one of them is going to give up work to look after a child? I
suppose Ian could potentially be redundant if Oliver sells. But it's
more likely that a management buy out would make him busier. So Adam
will have to take the kid to work in a sling and put a baby seat in
the tractor.

Was a 'baby' specifically mentioned (I wasn't paying full attention).
Doubtless best for proper bonding (on both sides) but a school-age child
might be a better bet to fit in with their age and life-style.

Well, they talked about "having a child" which is often another way of
saying "having a baby". They can't, of course, actually "have" either; a
baby or a child will have to come from a mother, either via adoption
(how likely is this??) or as a rent-a-womb service from someone (not
Helen, please not Helen!) who wants to do them a favour.

This whole thing is just a terrible idea. Adam cannot compensate for his
infidelity by buying Ian a baby.

[Btms]

Post by Marjorie

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Which one of them is going to give up work to look after a child? I
suppose Ian could potentially be redundant if Oliver sells. But it's
more likely that a management buy out would make him busier. So Adam
will have to take the kid to work in a sling and put a baby seat in
the tractor.

Was a 'baby' specifically mentioned (I wasn't paying full attention).
Doubtless best for proper bonding (on both sides) but a school-age child
might be a better bet to fit in with their age and life-style.

Well, they talked about "having a child" which is often another way of
saying "having a baby". They can't, of course, actually "have" either; a
baby or a child will have to come from a mother, either via adoption
(how likely is this??) or as a rent-a-womb service from someone (not
Helen, please not Helen!) who wants to do them a favour.
This whole thing is just a terrible idea. Adam cannot compensate for his
infidelity by buying Ian a baby.

Oh! How well observed. Quite.

[Fenny]

On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 16:42:08 +0100, Marjorie

Post by Marjorie
Well, they talked about "having a child" which is often another way of
saying "having a baby". They can't, of course, actually "have" either; a
baby or a child will have to come from a mother, either via adoption
(how likely is this??) or as a rent-a-womb service from someone (not
Helen, please not Helen!) who wants to do them a favour.

I'm hoping it doesn't lead to a whole PSA type storyline of "Adam and
Ian have a Baby". I would guess they do want a baby, but there is a
lack of babies for adoption generally, so would be difficult. So that
would lead to surrogacy. Which is fraught with all kinds of
difficulties and costs a lot of money, which they don't seem to have.
If they chose to adopt an older child, that would be a better
storyline. But they'd probably be better off having a go at fostering
first, to find out exactly what the daily issues are in relation to
child care.

[steveski]

Post by Fenny
On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 16:42:08 +0100, Marjorie

Post by Marjorie
Well, they talked about "having a child" which is often another way of
saying "having a baby". They can't, of course, actually "have" either; a
baby or a child will have to come from a mother, either via adoption
(how likely is this??) or as a rent-a-womb service from someone (not
Helen, please not Helen!) who wants to do them a favour.

I'm hoping it doesn't lead to a whole PSA type storyline of "Adam and
Ian have a Baby". I would guess they do want a baby, but there is a
lack of babies for adoption generally, so would be difficult. So that
would lead to surrogacy. Which is fraught with all kinds of difficulties
and costs a lot of money, which they don't seem to have. If they chose
to adopt an older child, that would be a better storyline. But they'd
probably be better off having a go at fostering first, to find out
exactly what the daily issues are in relation to child care.

Shirley they're too old to fit the criteria for adpotion?

[Btms]

Post by steveski

Post by Fenny
On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 16:42:08 +0100, Marjorie

Post by Marjorie
Well, they talked about "having a child" which is often another way of
saying "having a baby". They can't, of course, actually "have" either; a
baby or a child will have to come from a mother, either via adoption
(how likely is this??) or as a rent-a-womb service from someone (not
Helen, please not Helen!) who wants to do them a favour.

I'm hoping it doesn't lead to a whole PSA type storyline of "Adam and
Ian have a Baby". I would guess they do want a baby, but there is a
lack of babies for adoption generally, so would be difficult. So that
would lead to surrogacy. Which is fraught with all kinds of difficulties
and costs a lot of money, which they don't seem to have. If they chose
to adopt an older child, that would be a better storyline. But they'd
probably be better off having a go at fostering first, to find out
exactly what the daily issues are in relation to child care.

Shirley they're too old to fit the criteria for adpotion?

I think they should get a dog.

[Chris McMillan]

Post by Btms

Post by steveski

Post by Fenny
On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 16:42:08 +0100, Marjorie

Post by Marjorie
Well, they talked about "having a child" which is often another way of
saying "having a baby". They can't, of course, actually "have" either; a
baby or a child will have to come from a mother, either via adoption
(how likely is this??) or as a rent-a-womb service from someone (not
Helen, please not Helen!) who wants to do them a favour.

I'm hoping it doesn't lead to a whole PSA type storyline of "Adam and
Ian have a Baby". I would guess they do want a baby, but there is a
lack of babies for adoption generally, so would be difficult. So that
would lead to surrogacy. Which is fraught with all kinds of difficulties
and costs a lot of money, which they don't seem to have. If they chose
to adopt an older child, that would be a better storyline. But they'd
probably be better off having a go at fostering first, to find out
exactly what the daily issues are in relation to child care.

Shirley they're too old to fit the criteria for adpotion?

I think they should get a dog.

Except neither of them has the time to walkies except in the dead of night
it seems,

Sincerely Chris

[Btms]

Post by Chris McMillan

Post by Btms

Post by steveski

Post by Fenny
On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 16:42:08 +0100, Marjorie

Post by Marjorie
Well, they talked about "having a child" which is often another way of
saying "having a baby". They can't, of course, actually "have" either; a
baby or a child will have to come from a mother, either via adoption
(how likely is this??) or as a rent-a-womb service from someone (not
Helen, please not Helen!) who wants to do them a favour.

I'm hoping it doesn't lead to a whole PSA type storyline of "Adam and
Ian have a Baby". I would guess they do want a baby, but there is a
lack of babies for adoption generally, so would be difficult. So that
would lead to surrogacy. Which is fraught with all kinds of difficulties
and costs a lot of money, which they don't seem to have. If they chose
to adopt an older child, that would be a better storyline. But they'd
probably be better off having a go at fostering first, to find out
exactly what the daily issues are in relation to child care.

Shirley they're too old to fit the criteria for adpotion?

I think they should get a dog.

Except neither of them has the time to walkies except in the dead of night
it seems,
Sincerely Chris

Dog can keep Adam company. Often seen in a tractor or strolling with
farmer in these parts. Dogs where there is land don't often get the "walk"
as they roam around on their own.

[Sally Thompson]

Post by Btms

Post by steveski

Post by Fenny
On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 16:42:08 +0100, Marjorie

Post by Marjorie
Well, they talked about "having a child" which is often another way of
saying "having a baby". They can't, of course, actually "have" either; a
baby or a child will have to come from a mother, either via adoption
(how likely is this??) or as a rent-a-womb service from someone (not
Helen, please not Helen!) who wants to do them a favour.

I'm hoping it doesn't lead to a whole PSA type storyline of "Adam and
Ian have a Baby". I would guess they do want a baby, but there is a
lack of babies for adoption generally, so would be difficult. So that
would lead to surrogacy. Which is fraught with all kinds of difficulties
and costs a lot of money, which they don't seem to have. If they chose
to adopt an older child, that would be a better storyline. But they'd
probably be better off having a go at fostering first, to find out
exactly what the daily issues are in relation to child care.

Shirley they're too old to fit the criteria for adpotion?

I think they should get a dog.

Isn't that illegal?

[Penny]

On 5 Sep 2017 08:16:07 GMT, Sally Thompson

Post by Sally Thompson

Post by Btms

Post by steveski

Post by Fenny
On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 16:42:08 +0100, Marjorie

Post by Marjorie
Well, they talked about "having a child" which is often another way of
saying "having a baby". They can't, of course, actually "have" either; a
baby or a child will have to come from a mother, either via adoption
(how likely is this??) or as a rent-a-womb service from someone (not
Helen, please not Helen!) who wants to do them a favour.

I'm hoping it doesn't lead to a whole PSA type storyline of "Adam and
Ian have a Baby". I would guess they do want a baby, but there is a
lack of babies for adoption generally, so would be difficult. So that
would lead to surrogacy. Which is fraught with all kinds of difficulties
and costs a lot of money, which they don't seem to have. If they chose
to adopt an older child, that would be a better storyline. But they'd
probably be better off having a go at fostering first, to find out
exactly what the daily issues are in relation to child care.

Shirley they're too old to fit the criteria for adpotion?

I think they should get a dog.

Isn't that illegal?

I'm mildly disturbed (and confused) by this question and therefore suspect
BT.

[Marjorie]

Post by steveski

Post by Fenny
On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 16:42:08 +0100, Marjorie

Post by Marjorie
Well, they talked about "having a child" which is often another way of
saying "having a baby". They can't, of course, actually "have" either; a
baby or a child will have to come from a mother, either via adoption
(how likely is this??) or as a rent-a-womb service from someone (not
Helen, please not Helen!) who wants to do them a favour.

I'm hoping it doesn't lead to a whole PSA type storyline of "Adam and
Ian have a Baby". I would guess they do want a baby, but there is a
lack of babies for adoption generally, so would be difficult. So that
would lead to surrogacy. Which is fraught with all kinds of difficulties
and costs a lot of money, which they don't seem to have. If they chose
to adopt an older child, that would be a better storyline. But they'd
probably be better off having a go at fostering first, to find out
exactly what the daily issues are in relation to child care.

Shirley they're too old to fit the criteria for adpotion?

Too old, too busy, too half-hearted .... I mean, would you choose Adam
as an adoptive parent for a child of any age? He has never shown any
interest in children, even those related to him. He only wants to keep
Ian happy (or even just keep Ian), and that would come across in the
selection procedure.

[carolet]

Post by Marjorie

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Which one of them is going to give up work to look after a child?  I
suppose Ian could potentially be redundant if Oliver sells.  But it's
more likely that a management buy out would make him busier.  So Adam
will have to take the kid to work in a sling and put a baby seat in
the tractor.

Was a 'baby' specifically mentioned (I wasn't paying full attention).
Doubtless best for proper bonding (on both sides) but a school-age child
might be a better bet to fit in with their age and life-style.

Well, they talked about "having a child" which is often another way of
saying "having a baby". They can't, of course, actually "have" either; a
baby or a child will have to come from a mother, either via adoption
(how likely is this??)  or as a rent-a-womb service from someone (not
Helen, please not Helen!) who wants to do them a favour.
This whole thing is just a terrible idea. Adam cannot compensate for his
infidelity by buying Ian a baby.

We long thought that Ian ought to have been Henry's biological father,
but I doubt that Helen would be interested in doing that now. I am
wondering whether Kirsty might be interested in having a baby whose
father is Ian. She wanted Tom to be an interested but detached father to
the baby that she lost, and I think that Ian might well perform that
kind of role quite well. Given how busy Ian and Adam are, a
not-always-there baby might suit them better than what they are
currently planning.

[Btms]

Much snipped.

Post by carolet

Post by Marjorie
This whole thing is just a terrible idea. Adam cannot compensate for his
infidelity by buying Ian a baby.

We long thought that Ian ought to have been Henry's biological father,
but I doubt that Helen would be interested in doing that now. I am
wondering whether Kirsty might be interested in having a baby whose
father is Ian. She wanted Tom to be an interested but detached father to
the baby that she lost, and I think that Ian might well perform that
kind of role quite well. Given how busy Ian and Adam are, a
not-always-there baby might suit them better than what they are
currently planning.

How awful. Sounds like a child as a commodity.

[Fenny]

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Which one of them is going to give up work to look after a child? I
suppose Ian could potentially be redundant if Oliver sells. But it's
more likely that a management buy out would make him busier. So Adam
will have to take the kid to work in a sling and put a baby seat in
the tractor.

Was a 'baby' specifically mentioned (I wasn't paying full attention).
Doubtless best for proper bonding (on both sides) but a school-age child
might be a better bet to fit in with their age and life-style.

School age children are mhch harder to fit into a lifestyle - they
have to be taken to and picked up from school, taken to all kinds of
activities and parties and need much more entertaining and homework
supervision than a baby.

At leat if they acquire a baby, in whichever way the SWs decide, they
will have time to work these things out before it requires
swimming/dancing/gymnastics/music lessons and joins Beavers/Rainbows.

Of course, if Adam and Ian "have" a baby, Chris is going to want one
even more and Alice really doesn't seem interested.

[Penny]

On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 16:54:26 +0100, Fenny <***@removethis.onetel.net>
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Which one of them is going to give up work to look after a child? I
suppose Ian could potentially be redundant if Oliver sells. But it's
more likely that a management buy out would make him busier. So Adam
will have to take the kid to work in a sling and put a baby seat in
the tractor.

Was a 'baby' specifically mentioned (I wasn't paying full attention).
Doubtless best for proper bonding (on both sides) but a school-age child
might be a better bet to fit in with their age and life-style.

School age children are mhch harder to fit into a lifestyle - they
have to be taken to and picked up from school, taken to all kinds of
activities and parties and need much more entertaining and homework
supervision than a baby.
At leat if they acquire a baby, in whichever way the SWs decide, they
will have time to work these things out before it requires
swimming/dancing/gymnastics/music lessons and joins Beavers/Rainbows.
Of course, if Adam and Ian "have" a baby, Chris is going to want one
even more and Alice really doesn't seem interested.

Part of my (small) ponderings on the matter included wondering which
existing small people in Ambridge might be suddenly orphaned and how likely
it was that Ian's wish to adopt would be entertained by other existing
relatives. I think it would take a major catastrophe though and I'm not
wishing that on this bunch of fictional characters - or their audience.

[DavidK]

Post by Fenny

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Which one of them is going to give up work to look after a child? I
suppose Ian could potentially be redundant if Oliver sells. But it's
more likely that a management buy out would make him busier. So Adam
will have to take the kid to work in a sling and put a baby seat in
the tractor.

Was a 'baby' specifically mentioned (I wasn't paying full attention).
Doubtless best for proper bonding (on both sides) but a school-age child
might be a better bet to fit in with their age and life-style.

School age children are mhch harder to fit into a lifestyle - they
have to be taken to and picked up from school, taken to all kinds of
activities and parties and need much more entertaining and homework
supervision than a baby.
At leat if they acquire a baby, in whichever way the SWs decide, they
will have time to work these things out before it requires
swimming/dancing/gymnastics/music lessons and joins Beavers/Rainbows.
Of course, if Adam and Ian "have" a baby, Chris is going to want one
even more and Alice really doesn't seem interested.

I had wondered if a baby was conceived on the night of the Thursday
party. Alice asked Chris to stop her doing anything silly before she
jumped out of the tree.

Of course, if Alice is taking the the pill then this is a non-starter
and I can't think why she shouldn't be.

[Penny]

On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 12:25:30 +0100, DavidK <***@invalid.invalid> scrawled
in the dust...

Post by DavidK
I had wondered if a baby was conceived on the night of the Thursday
party. Alice asked Chris to stop her doing anything silly before she
jumped out of the tree.
Of course, if Alice is taking the the pill then this is a non-starter
and I can't think why she shouldn't be.

I'm not so sure it's a non-starter, she may have been too drunk to remember
to take the pill, or taken one and thrown up, or have forgotten to get a
new implant. Are they still on a 'modern' contraception information thing?

[Fenny]

Post by DavidK
I had wondered if a baby was conceived on the night of the Thursday
party. Alice asked Chris to stop her doing anything silly before she
jumped out of the tree.

Hmmm! Just how drunk was Alice? I'm sure Chris isn't like Rob!

[Mike]

Post by Fenny

Post by DavidK
I had wondered if a baby was conceived on the night of the Thursday
party. Alice asked Chris to stop her doing anything silly before she
jumped out of the tree.

Hmmm! Just how drunk was Alice? I'm sure Chris isn't like Rob!

But I suppose they may have been in a field of rape?

[Sally Thompson]

Post by Mike

Post by Fenny

Post by DavidK
I had wondered if a baby was conceived on the night of the Thursday
party. Alice asked Chris to stop her doing anything silly before she
jumped out of the tree.

Hmmm! Just how drunk was Alice? I'm sure Chris isn't like Rob!

But I suppose they may have been in a field of rape?

BTN!

[Fenny]

On 4 Sep 2017 17:53:42 GMT, Sally Thompson

Post by Mike

Post by Fenny

Post by DavidK
I had wondered if a baby was conceived on the night of the Thursday
party. Alice asked Chris to stop her doing anything silly before she
jumped out of the tree.

Hmmm! Just how drunk was Alice? I'm sure Chris isn't like Rob!

But I suppose they may have been in a field of rape?

BTN!

No nomination, just BT.

[Jenny M Benson]

Post by Mike

Post by Fenny

Post by DavidK
I had wondered if a baby was conceived on the night of the Thursday
party. Alice asked Chris to stop her doing anything silly before she
jumped out of the tree.

Hmmm! Just how drunk was Alice? I'm sure Chris isn't like Rob!

But I suppose they may have been in a field of rape?

BTN!

Accepted.

[Sally Thompson]

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by Mike

Post by Fenny

Post by DavidK
I had wondered if a baby was conceived on the night of the Thursday
party. Alice asked Chris to stop her doing anything silly before she
jumped out of the tree.

Hmmm! Just how drunk was Alice? I'm sure Chris isn't like Rob!

But I suppose they may have been in a field of rape?

BTN!

Accepted.

<beam>

[krw]

Post by Fenny

Post by DavidK
I had wondered if a baby was conceived on the night of the Thursday
party. Alice asked Chris to stop her doing anything silly before she
jumped out of the tree.

Hmmm! Just how drunk was Alice? I'm sure Chris isn't like Rob!

She was high, not drunk.

[Nick Leverton]

Post by krw

Post by Fenny

Post by DavidK
I had wondered if a baby was conceived on the night of the Thursday
party. Alice asked Chris to stop her doing anything silly before she
jumped out of the tree.

Hmmm! Just how drunk was Alice? I'm sure Chris isn't like Rob!

She was high, not drunk.

Out of her tree ?

Nick

[Mike]

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Which one of them is going to give up work to look after a child? I
suppose Ian could potentially be redundant if Oliver sells. But it's
more likely that a management buy out would make him busier. So Adam
will have to take the kid to work in a sling and put a baby seat in
the tractor.

Was a 'baby' specifically mentioned (I wasn't paying full attention).
Doubtless best for proper bonding (on both sides) but a school-age child
might be a better bet to fit in with their age and life-style.

No, Ian said "Child".

[Btms]

Post by Mike

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Which one of them is going to give up work to look after a child? I
suppose Ian could potentially be redundant if Oliver sells. But it's
more likely that a management buy out would make him busier. So Adam
will have to take the kid to work in a sling and put a baby seat in
the tractor.

Was a 'baby' specifically mentioned (I wasn't paying full attention).
Doubtless best for proper bonding (on both sides) but a school-age child
might be a better bet to fit in with their age and life-style.

No, Ian said "Child".

Another fostering story to fizzle out like Oliver's. Maybe they can
foster Oliver.

[Mike]

Post by Btms

Post by Mike

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Which one of them is going to give up work to look after a child? I
suppose Ian could potentially be redundant if Oliver sells. But it's
more likely that a management buy out would make him busier. So Adam
will have to take the kid to work in a sling and put a baby seat in
the tractor.

Was a 'baby' specifically mentioned (I wasn't paying full attention).
Doubtless best for proper bonding (on both sides) but a school-age child
might be a better bet to fit in with their age and life-style.

No, Ian said "Child".

Another fostering story to fizzle out like Oliver's. Maybe they can
foster Oliver.

The 7 ages of man?