Salinger: RFK died not believing in a conspiracy

.John
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bigdog

2018-06-04 22:14:21 UTC

Post by John McAdams
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.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.

Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Steve M. Galbraith

2018-06-05 20:42:20 UTC

Post by John McAdams
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.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

From what I've read, Ken O'Donnell was RFK's campaign manager and Salinger
was one of the other "managers"/advisers types.

RFK was reportedly keeping track of the Garrison circus. Was it because he
suspected a conspiracy? Or was he worried that Garrison would uncover all
of those anti-Castro operations? Including the assassination plots? The
Drew Pearson stories about the plots broke in 1967. I'll suggest that RFK
was d eeply worried about where it would lead.

Anthony Marsh

2018-06-08 00:57:40 UTC

Post by John McAdams
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.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

I think RFK actively was trying to shut down the Garrison investigation
BECAUSE he knew it was a conspiracy.

Post by Steve M. Galbraith
of those anti-Castro operations? Including the assassination plots? The
Drew Pearson stories about the plots broke in 1967. I'll suggest that RFK
was d eeply worried about where it would lead.

mainframetech

2018-06-09 01:37:07 UTC

Post by John McAdams
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.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

Chris

bigdog

2018-06-10 00:27:10 UTC

Post by John McAdams
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.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

mainframetech

2018-06-11 02:00:01 UTC

Post by John McAdams
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.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

What? Are you going of your nut again? You and anyone can check
Salinger's words to verify what I'm saying, and as to my thought that RFK
had to go too when he ran for president, he was killed, which offers some
proof. What do you have to offer?

Chris

bigdog

2018-06-12 02:04:58 UTC

Post by John McAdams
http://youtu.be/VYmyMJ0H6DQ
.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

RFK was killed by a Palestinian who was enraged by RFK's pro-Israel positions. Just as it is with Oswald, in over 50 years no one has produced a scrap of evidence he was acting on behalf of anyone except himself.

The RFK assassination, even more so than the JFK assassination, shows the
desperation some have to believe any nonsense. Sirhan shot RFK at close
range in front of dozens of witnesses, was subdued with the smoking gun
still in his hand, and still some refuse to accept he was the lone
assassin.

Anthony Marsh

2018-06-14 00:51:24 UTC

Post by John McAdams
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.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

RFK was killed by a Palestinian who was enraged by RFK's pro-Israel positions. Just as it is with Oswald, in over 50 years no one has produced a scrap of evidence he was acting on behalf of anyone except himself.
The RFK assassination, even more so than the JFK assassination, shows the
desperation some have to believe any nonsense. Sirhan shot RFK at close
range in front of dozens of witnesses, was subdued with the smoking gun
still in his hand, and still some refuse to accept he was the lone
assassin.

Bot some of the wounds do not line up correctly for all to be cause by
Sirhan. You know little about that case.

mainframetech

2018-06-14 02:29:51 UTC

Post by John McAdams
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.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

RFK was killed by a Palestinian who was enraged by RFK's pro-Israel positions. Just as it is with Oswald, in over 50 years no one has produced a scrap of evidence he was acting on behalf of anyone except himself.
The RFK assassination, even more so than the JFK assassination, shows the
desperation some have to believe any nonsense. Sirhan shot RFK at close
range in front of dozens of witnesses, was subdued with the smoking gun
still in his hand, and still some refuse to accept he was the lone
assassin.

Sounds like you learned a little about the JFK killing, but not the RFK
killing. Oswald was lucid when questioned. Sirhan was not. See an RFK
conspiracy page.

While his wife, the actress Cheryl Hines, waited in the car, Kennedy met
with Sirhan for three hours, he revealed to The Washington Post last week.
It was the culmination of months of research by Kennedy into the
assassination, including speaking with witnesses and reading the autopsy
and police reports.

“I got to a place where I had to see Sirhan,” Kennedy
said. He would not discuss the specifics of their conversation. But when
it was over, Kennedy had joined those who believe there was a second
gunman, and that it was not Sirhan who killed his father.

“I went there because I was curious and disturbed by what I had
seen in the evidence,” said Kennedy, an environmental lawyer and
the third oldest of his father’s 11 children. “I was
disturbed that the wrong person might have been convicted of killing my
father. My father was the chief law enforcement officer in this country. I
think it would have disturbed him if somebody was put in jail for a crime
they didn’t commit.”

From: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/05/26/who-killed-bobby-kennedy-his-son-rfk-jr-doesnt-believe-it-was-sirhan-sirhan/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d617b1f0e78c

Chris

bigdog

2018-06-15 00:50:03 UTC

Post by John McAdams
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.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

RFK was killed by a Palestinian who was enraged by RFK's pro-Israel positions. Just as it is with Oswald, in over 50 years no one has produced a scrap of evidence he was acting on behalf of anyone except himself.
The RFK assassination, even more so than the JFK assassination, shows the
desperation some have to believe any nonsense. Sirhan shot RFK at close
range in front of dozens of witnesses, was subdued with the smoking gun
still in his hand, and still some refuse to accept he was the lone
assassin.

Sounds like you learned a little about the JFK killing, but not the RFK
killing. Oswald was lucid when questioned. Sirhan was not. See an RFK
conspiracy page.

Which exonerates neither of them.

Post by mainframetech
While his wife, the actress Cheryl Hines, waited in the car, Kennedy met
with Sirhan for three hours, he revealed to The Washington Post last week.
It was the culmination of months of research by Kennedy into the
assassination, including speaking with witnesses and reading the autopsy
and police reports.
“I got to a place where I had to see Sirhan,” Kennedy
said. He would not discuss the specifics of their conversation. But when
it was over, Kennedy had joined those who believe there was a second
gunman, and that it was not Sirhan who killed his father.
“I went there because I was curious and disturbed by what I had
seen in the evidence,” said Kennedy, an environmental lawyer and
the third oldest of his father’s 11 children. “I was
disturbed that the wrong person might have been convicted of killing my
father. My father was the chief law enforcement officer in this country. I
think it would have disturbed him if somebody was put in jail for a crime
they didn’t commit.”
From: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/05/26/who-killed-bobby-kennedy-his-son-rfk-jr-doesnt-believe-it-was-sirhan-sirhan/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d617b1f0e78c

Why would I care what a druggie like RFK Jr. thinks about anything? He's a
moron. There is no evidence of a second gunman in the RFK assassination
any more than there is in the JFK assassination. Are we really supposed to
believe there was a second shooter in that crowded pantry and nobody saw
him. Which bullets were recovered that were shown to have come from a
different gun.

It really shows how easily some people can be duped into believing
ridiculous things. We are supposed to believe Sirhan was just a patsy. We
are supposed to believe that the guy who was seen firing the gun at RFK
was not the assassin while the real assassin was not seen firing a gun.
Sirhan was literally subdued with the smoking gun in his hand and some
people are willing to believe he was not the assassin. Of course it is
quite easy to dupe people who want to be duped.

Anthony Marsh

2018-06-16 05:21:02 UTC

Post by John McAdams
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.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

RFK was killed by a Palestinian who was enraged by RFK's pro-Israel positions. Just as it is with Oswald, in over 50 years no one has produced a scrap of evidence he was acting on behalf of anyone except himself.
The RFK assassination, even more so than the JFK assassination, shows the
desperation some have to believe any nonsense. Sirhan shot RFK at close
range in front of dozens of witnesses, was subdued with the smoking gun
still in his hand, and still some refuse to accept he was the lone
assassin.

Sounds like you learned a little about the JFK killing, but not the RFK
killing. Oswald was lucid when questioned. Sirhan was not. See an RFK
conspiracy page.

Which exonerates neither of them.

No, silly. You are supposed to believe that he was hypnotized. You've
got to get up to speed on your kook conspiracy theories.

Post by bigdog
are supposed to believe that the guy who was seen firing the gun at RFK
was not the assassin while the real assassin was not seen firing a gun.
Sirhan was literally subdued with the smoking gun in his hand and some
people are willing to believe he was not the assassin. Of course it is
quite easy to dupe people who want to be duped.

Anthony Marsh

2018-06-12 13:23:44 UTC

Post by John McAdams
http://youtu.be/VYmyMJ0H6DQ
.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

What? Are you going of your nut again? You and anyone can check
Salinger's words to verify what I'm saying, and as to my thought that RFK

Not true. They are not that computer savvy. You're a computer expert.
YOU know how to use Google, they do not.

Post by mainframetech
had to go too when he ran for president, he was killed, which offers some
proof. What do you have to offer?
Chris

Steve M. Galbraith

2018-06-11 02:04:29 UTC

Post by John McAdams
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.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

Gee, why didn't I think of that? "They" killed RFK to prevent their
exposure.

Again: remember, it was a real small conspiracy behind the murder. Just a
handful of people.

Altered wounds, stolen bodies, faked films, teams of snipers, agents here
and there, FBI coverup, CIA coverup, SS coverup, investigations covering
things up for half a century.

Yep, 'twas just a small conspiracy.

mainframetech

2018-06-14 02:30:37 UTC

Post by John McAdams
http://youtu.be/VYmyMJ0H6DQ
.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

Gee, why didn't I think of that? "They" killed RFK to prevent their
exposure.
Again: remember, it was a real small conspiracy behind the murder. Just a
handful of people.
Altered wounds, stolen bodies, faked films, teams of snipers, agents here
and there, FBI coverup, CIA coverup, SS coverup, investigations covering
things up for half a century.
Yep, 'twas just a small conspiracy.

Yup, you got fooled by the LN standard line. I've stated that I
believe there were about 20 people involved before the shooting, and that
doesn't count shooters around Dealey Plaza. Also 30 involved after the
shooting. To stop your trying to magnify that into ridiculous numbers,
remember that When Hoover told his people it was a 'lone nut' killing,
they would do whatever they could do to make that come true, or heads
would roll. Many (not all) FBI agents on the case were caught falsifying
statements of eyewitnesses to make the 'lone nut' killing the right
scenario, even to covering up things people said that suggested
conspiracy. Almost none of those agents were in on the plot, but they
were used to help cover it up without knowing why they were doing it.

The plotters simply had to have a good excuse for things they ordered
to be done, and that would be that the USA didn't want anyone to think we
were blaming any other country for the murder, so there wouldn't be a WW3
started.

The same or similar excuse could be used on the pathologists at
Bethesda for the clandestine work they did looking for bullets in the
body, and expanding the head wound to look more like it was from above and
behind.

Chris

bigdog

2018-06-15 00:51:11 UTC

Post by John McAdams
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.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

Gee, why didn't I think of that? "They" killed RFK to prevent their
exposure.
Again: remember, it was a real small conspiracy behind the murder. Just a
handful of people.
Altered wounds, stolen bodies, faked films, teams of snipers, agents here
and there, FBI coverup, CIA coverup, SS coverup, investigations covering
things up for half a century.
Yep, 'twas just a small conspiracy.

That's 50 people. Is that your idea of a small conspiracy. Of course if we
were to add up all the people you have accused over the years of either
being part of the plot or part of the cover up, we would be way north of
50 people. The fascinating question is whether the people who were just
involved in the cover up were onboard before the assassination or were
they recruited after the assassination and if the latter is true, how did
your 20 plotters know they could count on all those people to go along
with the cover up. Let me guess. WWIII.

Post by mainframetech
To stop your trying to magnify that into ridiculous numbers,

You've done that for us.

Post by mainframetech
remember that When Hoover told his people it was a 'lone nut' killing,
they would do whatever they could do to make that come true, or heads
would roll. Many (not all) FBI agents on the case were caught falsifying
statements of eyewitnesses to make the 'lone nut' killing the right
scenario, even to covering up things people said that suggested
conspiracy. Almost none of those agents were in on the plot, but they
were used to help cover it up without knowing why they were doing it.

They must have been really, really stupid.

Post by mainframetech
The plotters simply had to have a good excuse for things they ordered
to be done, and that would be that the USA didn't want anyone to think we
were blaming any other country for the murder, so there wouldn't be a WW3
started.

So I was right. It was WWIII.

Post by mainframetech
The same or similar excuse could be used on the pathologists at
Bethesda for the clandestine work they did looking for bullets in the
body, and expanding the head wound to look more like it was from above and
behind.

The Soviet Union collapsed almost 30 years ago. Why hasn't anyone come
forward to say they went along with the cover up to stop WWIII?

It's amazing the nonsense you are willing to buy into.

Anthony Marsh

2018-06-16 05:20:59 UTC

Post by John McAdams
http://youtu.be/VYmyMJ0H6DQ
.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

Gee, why didn't I think of that? "They" killed RFK to prevent their
exposure.
Again: remember, it was a real small conspiracy behind the murder. Just a
handful of people.
Altered wounds, stolen bodies, faked films, teams of snipers, agents here
and there, FBI coverup, CIA coverup, SS coverup, investigations covering
things up for half a century.
Yep, 'twas just a small conspiracy.

Post by mainframetech
To stop your trying to magnify that into ridiculous numbers,

You've done that for us.

They must have been really, really stupid.

So I was right. It was WWIII.

I don't see why there should be a dispute over whether to call it WW3 or
WWIII.

The Soviet Union collapsed almost 30 years ago. Why hasn't anyone come
forward to say they went along with the cover up to stop WWIII?

They have. Hosty called it a "benign" cover-up.

Post by bigdog
It's amazing the nonsense you are willing to buy into.

mainframetech

2018-06-16 16:16:41 UTC

Post by John McAdams
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.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

Gee, why didn't I think of that? "They" killed RFK to prevent their
exposure.
Again: remember, it was a real small conspiracy behind the murder. Just a
handful of people.
Altered wounds, stolen bodies, faked films, teams of snipers, agents here
and there, FBI coverup, CIA coverup, SS coverup, investigations covering
things up for half a century.
Yep, 'twas just a small conspiracy.

WRONG! I wasn't clear or you just needed something to complain about.
The 30 'after' that I mentioned are made up of the 20 from the 'before'
group plus another 10.

Post by bigdog
The fascinating question is whether the people who were just
involved in the cover up were onboard before the assassination or were
they recruited after the assassination and if the latter is true, how did
your 20 plotters know they could count on all those people to go along
with the cover up. Let me guess. WWIII.

Post by mainframetech
To stop your trying to magnify that into ridiculous numbers,

You've done that for us.

WRONG. You've tried to usual LN tactic of trying to increase the
numbers to look impossible. And yes, WW3 is a good excuse to use on many
people in government. Saying that we can't allow the Russians to think
we're blaming them so they don't start WW3 is valid as a reason for those
times.

They must have been really, really stupid.

So I was right. It was WWIII.

The Soviet Union collapsed almost 30 years ago. Why hasn't anyone come
forward to say they went along with the cover up to stop WWIII?
It's amazing the nonsense you are willing to buy into.

It's amazing the effort you put into trying to win an argument! As
to nonsense, you added some of that this time...WW3...:)

Chris

bigdog

2018-06-17 20:28:39 UTC

Post by John McAdams
http://youtu.be/VYmyMJ0H6DQ
.John

Salinger was as close to RFK as anyone. I just learned through CNN's 1968
series that Salinger was RFK's campaign manager in 1968.
Salinger of course was JFK's press secretary. In 1964 he ran for the
Senate seat in California. He won the Democrat primary and when retiring
Senator Clair Engle died, he was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to fill
out the remainder of Engle's term. He was defeated by former actor George
Murphy in the general election. Many have suggested that Murphy's
successful run encouraged Ronald Reagan that he too could succeed as a
candidate.

Check Salinger in the supplied video. Note that Salinger was not
definite about RFK believing the WC. And if RFK got into office, he might
chase down the killers of JFK, so he had to go too.

You love to imagine things for which there is no evidence.

Gee, why didn't I think of that? "They" killed RFK to prevent their
exposure.
Again: remember, it was a real small conspiracy behind the murder. Just a
handful of people.
Altered wounds, stolen bodies, faked films, teams of snipers, agents here
and there, FBI coverup, CIA coverup, SS coverup, investigations covering
things up for half a century.
Yep, 'twas just a small conspiracy.

WRONG! I wasn't clear or you just needed something to complain about.
The 30 'after' that I mentioned are made up of the 20 from the 'before'
group plus another 10.

I remember going through this a year or so ago. When we started counting up all the people involved in the plot and those you had claimed took part in the cover up, we easily got to around 70 or 80 people. Would you like to go through that again.

Post by mainframetech
To stop your trying to magnify that into ridiculous numbers,

You've done that for us.

WRONG. You've tried to usual LN tactic of trying to increase the
numbers to look impossible.

All I've had to do in the past is count up the people you claim took part either in the initial plot or the cover up.

Post by mainframetech
And yes, WW3 is a good excuse to use on many
people in government. Saying that we can't allow the Russians to think
we're blaming them so they don't start WW3 is valid as a reason for those
times.

What about after the Iron Curtain fell. Did we still need to maintain the cover up to prevent WWIII.

They must have been really, really stupid.

So I was right. It was WWIII.

The Soviet Union collapsed almost 30 years ago. Why hasn't anyone come
forward to say they went along with the cover up to stop WWIII?
It's amazing the nonsense you are willing to buy into.

It's amazing the effort you put into trying to win an argument! As
to nonsense, you added some of that this time...WW3...:)

It's your nonsense. I simply point it out.

Anthony Marsh

2018-06-04 23:46:47 UTC

Post by John McAdams
http://youtu.be/VYmyMJ0H6DQ
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Yes, so what? Are you saying that RFK had better access to facts than
the WC? How dare you make such an admission!

The fact is that it was just RFK's impression that the attempts to get
rid of Castro backfired.

LBJ was the only one who fell for the Cuba Hoaxes and thought there was
real evidence that Castro did it.

claviger

2018-06-20 17:44:15 UTC

Post by John McAdams
http://youtu.be/VYmyMJ0H6DQ
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Yes, so what? Are you saying that RFK had better access to facts than
the WC? How dare you make such an admission!

Yes he did, the reason why it is most curious he accepted the
Warren Commission conclusions and did not choose to initiate
a Justice Department investigation he had authority to do.

Post by Anthony Marsh
The fact is that it was just RFK's impression that the attempts to get
rid of Castro backfired.

They may have. RFK put pressure on the CIA to get rid of Castro,
who was definitely an enemy that needed to be neutralized one
way or another. As time passed Castro proved to inept, using a
combination of Marxist Theory and old fashioned Dictatorship.
The Cuban economy was soon in shambles.

Castro turned Cuba into a Third World country with a moribund
economy. He basically punished the Cuban people for allowing
him to turn Cuba into a failed test-tube experiment in Communist
economics, which was basically subsistence living conditions. If
the Cuban people are happy with that reality then so be it.

Post by Anthony Marsh
LBJ was the only one who fell for the Cuba Hoaxes and thought
there was real evidence that Castro did it.

No evidence to exclude Castro from directly or indirectly being
involved.

Did Castro Kill Kennedy?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/jfk-assassination-did-castro-kill-kennedy-a-393540.html

claviger

2018-06-21 21:43:32 UTC

Post by John McAdams
http://youtu.be/VYmyMJ0H6DQ
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Yes, so what? Are you saying that RFK had better access to facts than
the WC? How dare you make such an admission!

Yes he did, the reason why it is most curious he accepted the
Warren Commission conclusions and did not choose to initiate
a Justice Department investigation he had authority to do.

Post by Anthony Marsh
The fact is that it was just RFK's impression that the attempts to get
rid of Castro backfired.

They may have. RFK put pressure on the CIA to get rid of Castro,
who was definitely an enemy that needed to be neutralized one
way or another. As time passed Castro proved to be inept, using
a combination of Marxist Theory and old fashioned Dictatorship.
The Cuban economy was soon in shambles.
Castro turned Cuba into a Third World country with a moribund
economy. He basically punished the Cuban people for allowing
him to turn Cuba into a failed test-tube experiment in Communist
economics, which was basically subsistence living conditions. If
the Cuban people are happy with that reality then so be it.

Post by Anthony Marsh
LBJ was the only one who fell for the Cuba Hoaxes and thought
there was real evidence that Castro did it.

No evidence to exclude Castro from directly or indirectly being
involved.
Did Castro Kill Kennedy?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/jfk-assassination-did-castro-kill-kennedy-a-393540.html

Castro would be aware a crazy gringo made a visit to the Cuban Embassy and
yelled threats against President Kennedy. No communication to the US
Embassy about this incident. He would also know this same guy made visit
to the Russian Embassy. In either case they might say do what you plan to
do, then come see us. Is that culpability?

Anthony Marsh

2018-06-22 23:16:26 UTC

Post by John McAdams
http://youtu.be/VYmyMJ0H6DQ
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Yes, so what? Are you saying that RFK had better access to facts than
the WC? How dare you make such an admission!

Yes he did, the reason why it is most curious he accepted the
Warren Commission conclusions and did not choose to initiate
a Justice Department investigation he had authority to do.

Not really. He just didn't want to be the one who would start WWIII.
You probably would have.

Post by Anthony Marsh
The fact is that it was just RFK's impression that the attempts to get
rid of Castro backfired.

They may have. RFK put pressure on the CIA to get rid of Castro,

OH goody, tell me about YOUR conspiracy theory. Is it anything like Bob
Baer's?

Post by claviger
who was definitely an enemy that needed to be neutralized one
way or another. As time passed Castro proved to inept, using a
combination of Marxist Theory and old fashioned Dictatorship.
The Cuban economy was soon in shambles.

Communism always fails. After 50 years, after 100 years.
Democracy has not failed after 242 years.

Post by claviger
Castro turned Cuba into a Third World country with a moribund
economy. He basically punished the Cuban people for allowing

Helped along by US sabotage.

Post by claviger
him to turn Cuba into a failed test-tube experiment in Communist

I didn't see it as an experiment. I saw it as a buffer, like Eastern
Europe.

Yeah, like free food and free health care. That's what you hate.

Post by claviger
economics, which was basically subsistence living conditions. If

Yeah, like free food and free health care. That's what you hate.

Post by claviger
the Cuban people are happy with that reality then so be it.

Post by Anthony Marsh
LBJ was the only one who fell for the Cuba Hoaxes and thought
there was real evidence that Castro did it.

No evidence to exclude Castro from directly or indirectly being
involved.

Cute. No evidence to exclude Trump from being a Traitor.

Post by claviger
Did Castro Kill Kennedy?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/jfk-assassination-did-castro-kill-kennedy-a-393540.html

Which theory do like the best? Did you fall for the story about the
$6,500?

claviger

2018-06-26 21:48:52 UTC

Post by John McAdams
http://youtu.be/VYmyMJ0H6DQ
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Yes, so what? Are you saying that RFK had better access to
facts than the WC? How dare you make such an admission!

Yes he did, the reason why it is most curious he accepted the
Warren Commission conclusions and did not choose to initiate
a Justice Department investigation he had authority to do.

Not really. He just didn't want to be the one who would start WWIII.
You probably would have.

If there was proof Castro was to blame for the death of an American
President yes there should be retaliation against the Communist
regime in Havana. There would be various options without nuclear
weapons.

Post by Anthony Marsh
The fact is that it was just RFK's impression that the attempts to get
rid of Castro backfired.

They may have. RFK put pressure on the CIA to get rid of Castro,

OH goody, tell me about YOUR conspiracy theory. Is it anything like
Bob Baer's?

Who is Bob Baer and what is his theory?

Communism always fails. After 50 years, after 100 years.
Democracy has not failed after 242 years.

Post by claviger
Castro turned Cuba into a Third World country with a moribund
economy. He basically punished the Cuban people for allowing

Helped along by US sabotage.

From what I can tell US sabotage was ineffective in Cuba.

Post by claviger
him to turn Cuba into a failed test-tube experiment in Communist

I didn't see it as an experiment. I saw it as a buffer, like Eastern
Europe.
Yeah, like free food and free health care. That's what you hate.

No such thing as free food and free health care. Someone has
to get up and go to work to pay the bills.

Post by claviger
economics, which was basically subsistence living conditions. If

Yeah, like free food and free health care. That's what you hate.

The Cuban people don't have a lot to eat. Why don't you send
them food and money? Better yet, go there and work for free.

Post by claviger
the Cuban people are happy with that reality then so be it.

Post by Anthony Marsh
LBJ was the only one who fell for the Cuba Hoaxes and thought
there was real evidence that Castro did it.

No evidence to exclude Castro from directly or indirectly being
involved.

Cute. No evidence to exclude Trump from being a Traitor.

A President trying to keep US companies from moving offshore
and taking jobs to other countries and a better trade agreement
to create more US jobs. Is that what you call a Traitor?

Post by claviger
Did Castro Kill Kennedy?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/jfk-assassination-did-castro-kill-kennedy-a-393540.html

Which theory do like the best? Did you fall for the story about the
$6,500?

Gerry P Hemming said every Anti-Castro organization had been
penetrated by Cuban G2 agents. I think it possible they could
have convinced LHO to do the hit, then blame the AC Cubans.
This might explain the Silvia Odio incident.

Anthony Marsh

2018-06-27 19:52:19 UTC

Post by John McAdams
http://youtu.be/VYmyMJ0H6DQ
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Yes, so what? Are you saying that RFK had better access to
facts than the WC? How dare you make such an admission!

Yes he did, the reason why it is most curious he accepted the
Warren Commission conclusions and did not choose to initiate
a Justice Department investigation he had authority to do.

Not really. He just didn't want to be the one who would start WWIII.
You probably would have.

Post by Anthony Marsh
The fact is that it was just RFK's impression that the attempts to get
rid of Castro backfired.

They may have. RFK put pressure on the CIA to get rid of Castro,

OH goody, tell me about YOUR conspiracy theory. Is it anything like
Bob Baer's?

Who is Bob Baer and what is his theory?

Ex CIA officer. Watch his show on The History Channel or YouTube.
He believes Oswald was working for Castro.

Communism always fails. After 50 years, after 100 years.
Democracy has not failed after 242 years.

Post by claviger
Castro turned Cuba into a Third World country with a moribund
economy. He basically punished the Cuban people for allowing

Helped along by US sabotage.

From what I can tell US sabotage was ineffective in Cuba.

It was very annoying.

Post by claviger
him to turn Cuba into a failed test-tube experiment in Communist

I didn't see it as an experiment. I saw it as a buffer, like Eastern
Europe.
Yeah, like free food and free health care. That's what you hate.

No such thing as free food and free health care. Someone has
to get up and go to work to pay the bills.

I did. I guess you don't understand how our economic system works.
Ever hear of The Great Depression? Ever hear of life insurance?

Post by claviger
economics, which was basically subsistence living conditions. If

Yeah, like free food and free health care. That's what you hate.

The Cuban people don't have a lot to eat. Why don't you send
them food and money? Better yet, go there and work for free.

I don't work any more.

I give food and money to charities right in my own community.

Post by claviger
the Cuban people are happy with that reality then so be it.

Post by Anthony Marsh
LBJ was the only one who fell for the Cuba Hoaxes and thought
there was real evidence that Castro did it.

No evidence to exclude Castro from directly or indirectly being
involved.

Cute. No evidence to exclude Trump from being a Traitor.

A President trying to keep US companies from moving offshore
and taking jobs to other countries and a better trade agreement
to create more US jobs. Is that what you call a Traitor?

Working for our enemy. That's what I call a traitor. Did you call Oswald
a Traitor for defecting to the Russians? Same difference.

Post by claviger
Did Castro Kill Kennedy?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/jfk-assassination-did-castro-kill-kennedy-a-393540.html

Which theory do like the best? Did you fall for the story about the
$6,500?

Gerry P Hemming said every Anti-Castro organization had been
penetrated by Cuban G2 agents. I think it possible they could

Could be, but that is not one of the theories about Oswald.

Post by claviger
have convinced LHO to do the hit, then blame the AC Cubans.
This might explain the Silvia Odio incident.

I don't think so. Oswald was a committee of one. He was the only member
of his FPCC chapter.

claviger

2018-06-29 21:08:50 UTC

Post by Anthony Marsh
Working for our enemy. That's what I call a traitor. Did you call Oswald
a Traitor for defecting to the Russians? Same difference.

A blast from the past. You sound just like Sen. Joseph McCarthy.
Was he your great uncle?

OHLeeRedux

2018-06-30 17:43:39 UTC

Post by Anthony Marsh
Working for our enemy. That's what I call a traitor. Did you call Oswald
a Traitor for defecting to the Russians? Same difference.

A blast from the past. You sound just like Sen. Joseph McCarthy.
Was he your great uncle?

Uncle Joe and Anthony's daddy were best buds.

mainframetech

2018-06-09 01:37:43 UTC