James McGinn
2018-03-01 20:21:27 UTC
Arindham:
However your point about water below 100degC in gaseous state being not necessarily mono-molecular, is controversial.
JMcG:
Controversial? For it to be controversial there would have to be something more than superstition and anecdote opposing it. And that just isn't the case. People who believe H2O can turn to gaseous and stay gaseous at any temperature/pressure that is different from what any idiot can determine by looking at a H2O phase diagram are scientifically illiterate goons. And goons can't create controversy.
Arindham:
I would think that any wet shoe, when left to dry, will do so when some water is kicked out of it by some air molecule with kinetic impact.
JMcG:
Jesus fucking christ. What you think is irrelevant and what you imagine isn't an experiment. The properties of H2O are not a mystery. Yes, there is a lot of confusion. But that is no excuse for confusing your imagination with empirical evidence. It makes no difference that you can imagine it becoming gaseous. Hell, even if it did become gaseous for an instant (and it doesn't) in the next instant it would reform bonds and become liquid again.
Arindham:
If it pleases you, that momentary contact may raise the local temperature beyond 100degC no matter what the ambient may be, so that way your theory may still hold for then all evaporation is steamy, for steam as you say has to be monomolecular.
JMcG:
The word "Steam" is ambiguous. It has different meaning to different people. Science illiterates use ambiguous terminology.
Arindham:
These monomolecules rise high, as per our observation of the ways of Mother Nature, in the rare spaces high above where they get more concentration as the heavier atoms are below them.
JMcG:
This is a fucking retarded claim. You have never observed gaseous H2O at ambient temperatures. Nobody has.
Arindham:
In such high concentration, they unite to form multi-molecules, forming clouds, etc.
JMcG:
Your imagination isn't evidence. Consult an H2O phase diagram to realize the impossibility of gaseous H2O in the atmosphere. Heavier moisture nanodroplets are suspended by electrostatic factors associated with air..
Arindham, your understanding of H2O is amateurish. Trust me, I know. I am a physicist and the #! expert in the world on the water structure problem
Watch This Video!!!
No Steam in the Atmosphere; H2O Polarity is Variable
James McGinn / Solving Tornadoes
However your point about water below 100degC in gaseous state being not necessarily mono-molecular, is controversial.
JMcG:
Controversial? For it to be controversial there would have to be something more than superstition and anecdote opposing it. And that just isn't the case. People who believe H2O can turn to gaseous and stay gaseous at any temperature/pressure that is different from what any idiot can determine by looking at a H2O phase diagram are scientifically illiterate goons. And goons can't create controversy.
Arindham:
I would think that any wet shoe, when left to dry, will do so when some water is kicked out of it by some air molecule with kinetic impact.
JMcG:
Jesus fucking christ. What you think is irrelevant and what you imagine isn't an experiment. The properties of H2O are not a mystery. Yes, there is a lot of confusion. But that is no excuse for confusing your imagination with empirical evidence. It makes no difference that you can imagine it becoming gaseous. Hell, even if it did become gaseous for an instant (and it doesn't) in the next instant it would reform bonds and become liquid again.
Arindham:
If it pleases you, that momentary contact may raise the local temperature beyond 100degC no matter what the ambient may be, so that way your theory may still hold for then all evaporation is steamy, for steam as you say has to be monomolecular.
JMcG:
The word "Steam" is ambiguous. It has different meaning to different people. Science illiterates use ambiguous terminology.
Arindham:
These monomolecules rise high, as per our observation of the ways of Mother Nature, in the rare spaces high above where they get more concentration as the heavier atoms are below them.
JMcG:
This is a fucking retarded claim. You have never observed gaseous H2O at ambient temperatures. Nobody has.
Arindham:
In such high concentration, they unite to form multi-molecules, forming clouds, etc.
JMcG:
Your imagination isn't evidence. Consult an H2O phase diagram to realize the impossibility of gaseous H2O in the atmosphere. Heavier moisture nanodroplets are suspended by electrostatic factors associated with air..
Arindham, your understanding of H2O is amateurish. Trust me, I know. I am a physicist and the #! expert in the world on the water structure problem
Watch This Video!!!
No Steam in the Atmosphere; H2O Polarity is Variable
James McGinn / Solving Tornadoes